September 17, 2025 • 19 mins
Today on the pod the team ask why timber smells so good when you're cutting it, and they dig deep into local elections... what's with the Invercargill Licencing Trust??!?
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Get a It's Jerry here from the Heartachey Breakfast, just
letting you know that if you're listening to the podcast
but didn't know that we also do a live radio show,
we do. And if you're wondering how to find out
what frequency to listen to us in your area, just
takes north or South as an island to three four
eight three and only you know. And now let's get
on with the podcast. The date is the eighteenth of
(00:36):
September twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
The day is Thursday.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The hosts are Jeremy Wellesman, I Stewart, President Rudas Present.
The name of the podcast, we don't really.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Know, do you know what? I just call it the podcast.
You call it the podcast. So very confusing though, because
there's also the radio show podcast, which is also a podcast,
which but it's called the radio but as a radio
show a podcast, And if you didn't know that, we
do a radio show, and you should go and listen
to the radio show.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
If you want to know what the frequencies a I
just text North or South three four eight three.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You would have already heard that, but I just think
it's important to reiterate this is our marketing employee for
the second half of twenty twenty five is to convince
all the podcast listeners to listen to a radio show.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well, we asked a while ago, are there any people
who are listening to this podcast who have never who
didn't know that we do a radio show? Yep, and
not a single person came back. There were everybody knows
there's the key yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And the ones that are like, I don't listen to
the radio show are like, because I live in Candadate
or I live in live in, live in, live in Livinda, Loca,
for example. Right, Andrew Beeman, who the photo of the
keyboard that we saw yesterday. Remember I showed you that
photo of the keyboard, the white stuff all over it,
(01:53):
and we're like, what is that stuff?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And so I wrote a message to him, tied it
to a paget and sent it off off. So what
is that stuff? And Andrew Beeman, the Canadian listener with
the white white stuff all over his keyboard, replied and said,
plastic sawdust. I work as a saw operating operator in
a manufacturing plant that bills doors and windows, plastic sawdust.
Plastic sawdust. It's not really text that came through the
(02:17):
radio dust that come off a saw. Yes, that's right.
I used to get bone dust on my heir at
freezing wooks. Is if you stand close enough to the
band saw, then you get bone dust all through. That stinks.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I love the smell, oh, I bet it does. I
love the smell of sawdust off a tree though. Timber smell.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Me and my Auntie is going to walk. Your dogs are along,
but sort of beside the port and tamar and there's
like a massive lumber yard there. My god, that smells gird.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I think that's proof that we should be and amongst
the tree, yes, because we just immediately you smell that
smell and something about it? What is that? Does anyone
not like the smell of timber? Timber?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Different timbers too. My dad had a mate who was
a carver over on the West coast, and you'd go
into a shop and they have all the wood at
the bat you just have it, just different kind of sandalwood.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Sandalwood that's my shaving cream that I use. Bloody Good
Stuffies is some good smelling woods. Yeah, I love I
like sandal wood. Cody is a beautiful smelling.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah it is hard words. They smell good man I
mean this is why Master, you were saying we need
to get some wood in here. Oh you reckon.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
It was the smell.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
No, But I just think that there's something about you know,
wood and having it around it, the feel of it. Man,
A good well sanded wood feels good.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
The smell of timber releases aromatic compounds that are psychologically
calming and lower your heart rate and streets. Yeah, and
pleasant memories of nature and comfort.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, that makes sense, so because that's what we're meant
to be as animals.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Never the road has just broken a cardinal rule broadcasting,
and that has never sniffed. Jerry's done it to never
sniff a microphone. No, pops, I share one with Jayson. No,
I'm not going to fucking stuff that. In fact, I'm glad.
I'm sick at the moment. I can't smell anything.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
No, because I think that's a big thing about people
being in like concrete and stuff. If you spend too
much time in concrete, you're crazy, and cities you go
but nuts. You know, I mean to be around concrete, man,
you mean to be about around wood and water?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Would you? I was gonna there was a little cigarette
head there and I've entirely lost it. It was going
to be a word. Would you rather? We have got
a bunch more local election candidates. Oh, you have to
go through it if you would liked it? Please, gentlemen,
can I take you for a trip down south? No? Okay,
(04:42):
I'm already going Okay, you're already going south. We're gonna
heid where's this one? Hold on and be with me. Well, unfortunately, gentlemen,
we're gonna we're gonna have to go south because both
of these candidates are in South, and both candidates have
been sent through separately by multiple different people into the conclave,
which is the Hodacky Breakfast Facebook private group, safe space
(05:03):
for you to discuss basically whatever whatever you want. The
Mbcago Licensing Trust is electing six board members, one of
them pleading for your vote. Jeremy Wales is Cain, Big
Daddy Johnson, Big Daddy Johnson, Big Daddy Johnson. So yesterday
we had Big Rid Scheffer, his brother is Goose, and
(05:26):
somebody posted into the conclave, I see your big Red
and I raised you Big Daddy Cain, Big Daddy Johnson.
My principal place of residence is in the Invercargo licensing
trust area. My family's connections to Invercargo spans generations. I'm
Cain Big Daddy Johnson, and I'm asking for your vote
to bringing a fresh perspective backed by proven experience to
(05:49):
the LT the Iltcago license.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah great, great, great organization. The ILT. Now they are
so the wounders who decide how much where alcohol is served,
the amount of if it controls alcohol in the cargo
and pokeys so bars can only be in certain places
and they take all the money from that. Yeah, they
own the bars.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
And one time they built an indoor facility where the
Southern steel play and where you can ride your bike
around and around and around in circles and one time
it's snowed there in the roof have it. But they
did that once and they keep pointing back to that
as a bit of a.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
We put money back into the community, is what they say.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And where I live in West Akland now has got
the same thing. There's a licensing trust which means there's
no pubs mate in west Auckland. That's where for those
of you from around the country. West Aalkland is where
Outrageous Fortune was filmed and set. There are no pubs. No,
there's no pubs because of the licensing trade Burra mafia.
If they didn't exist and they tried to put one in,
there would be fucking outraged.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I can't believe that places allowed these stupid licensing that's insane.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Every year the Herald, or I'm pretty sure it's the
Hero puts out in an instigation into how much they
actually invest back into the community.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
The White Tackli one's the worst. Yes, like it's it's
officially the worst, the Southland one, the Inbicago one. It
does put money back in and so as a result,
but it also spends huge amounts of money on advertising itself,
getting to the community to show that it's good.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
But it's like, you don't need to advertise. We're forced
to pay you. So what do you mean you're advertising.
It's not like we've got an option.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, it's a weird it's a weird set up, and
I think they think that if they don't exist, it
will be like some kind of wild West, Like I
don't know if anybody's been in Southland, has sort of
been anywhere else in the world, but.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
They're like in Auckland.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Imagine if you said in Auckland Central. There's going to
be a licensing trust and we're going to appoint these
people and they're going to control all of the bars
and distrants. They're going to tell you what you can do,
what you can open, what you can't you can put
a bar, even the music that you going to play
inside of your bar ex sends that. The deals that
you're going to do with breweries, yep. I understand the
(08:06):
ILT has a brewery that it supports, because there's obviously
the two major breweries, A Lion and dB and you
know expert opture. We do stuff with DBH. I'm pretty
sure dB is the I L T.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Right brewery.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
But that means that that is the only like that
means line is not allowed in there at all because
they do it. They do a blanket deal. Yep, they
do a blanket deal.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's in the bars. It's no bars that there's a
that's a terrible idea. The other thing that happens there
and I don't know if this I don't think this
happens in a Vicago, But in West Aokland, you cannot
buy alcohol at the supermarket, which may which you would think,
oh no, so where are going to get your past from. Well,
don't worry. Every single supermarket has a bottle store right
next to.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
It, because it's exactly because super Lika is owned by
by the supermarkets owned by.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
If it didn't, there's no way we would tolerate someone
coming in. Like, if you live in a part of
the country where this doesn't exist, this is going to
sound insane to you, And imagine them coming into your
neighborhood and being like, Oh, we're thinking of taking over
all of the rules that we've just laid out there.
I think it's a hangover from the prohibition data.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That's exactly because it used to be dry Southland. Southland
had prohibition.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, they've all got these pubs and I forget what
they called. Are they called highway houses or something like that.
It's a pub that's right on the because each individual
town had their own prohibition rules. Omrou's got one, and
there's a pub right on the boundary of where those
prohibsion rules ran out. A lot of South Island towns
have them. You'll see a pub just them bump fuck
nowhere and you're like, why is that there? That was
(09:42):
the outer limit of where you were allowed to drink past.
It's all you do is drive out there, get tanked
and then drive back home again.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That's so silly.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
We got a relax on the rules, and there's fourteen
year olds drinking beer in Germany their entire lives. They
don't lose the plot. The reason we lose the plot,
as kiwis, is because there's so many rules on when
you can and can't drink pass. The clearest example is
key we at an open bar, they're going to make
a deck of themselves every single time. Whereas if you
grew up with an open bar, if there was never
(10:12):
any rules in it. Who brought this fucking soap box
into this?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Oh no, no, that's fair enough for everything. Now, I mean,
you've got to have a crack.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Can I finish cane Big Daddy Johnson's please? So what's
he going to do on the IoT?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
That's what I want to know. He's just going to
get on the IoT and won't do the same thing
and every other mofos ever done.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I don't know what he's going to do, but I
know a bit more about it. So we take a
quick break. I'll come back and tell you a bit
about Cane. Big Daddy Johnson. Many of you know me
is this is Kane Big Daddy Johnson to find you, Jerry,
welcome back, Thank you. Many of you know me as
the voice of the Southland Stags, Sharks and Steel. He's
the voice of all three. My passion is connecting with
(10:52):
our community, a skill I've honed as a teacher and
cultural leader in our skills. This public role is supported
by a strong background and commercial and operational management for
me national retailers and governments experience on regional boards. In
my professional life, I've managed staff, overseeing projects that mentored
the other professionals to help them succeed. I have the
business aconmym for the big boardroom and genuine understanding of
our communities is hard. I would be honored to earn
(11:12):
your trust and serve in for Cargo, big voice, big heart,
big for Ilt.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Okay, so what about an ANTIILT person on the IoT?
Do they have any antiilt people on there? And TILTA
After thirty eight years of prohibition and the Cargo voted
in the trust system in nineteen forty four, when we
boldly decided that the legal sales of olcohols should be
directly benefited to our community, Ilt were given three mandates.
(11:38):
Firstly to provide quality hospitality businesses, secretly to operate those
businesses and the interest of public well being. I don't
think that's happened. And thirdly, to distribute the profits back
to the community by of grants and donations. I think
they do do that. That's all these years later. We're
proud to still be delivering on these goals. But that
is what happens with individual businesses too. Yeah, you distribute,
(12:01):
you pay tax, and then you distribute money back into
you go and buy stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But also like, okay, so we came up with that
in nineteen forty four. What was going on in nineteen
forty four? Oh, first off, the prohibition. Do you remember
there was a vote in nineteen forty four for whether
we should get rid of prohibition or not, and the
votes were being countered and it was looking like, no,
we're going to keep prohibition for the longest time until
the overseas soldiers. Soldiers' votes came in by way of
(12:28):
mail and then they voted them, and then all of
a sudden they ended prohibition. So those kids over there
were like, we are fucking not coming back after this.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
And they had they held sway because they've been across a.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Wars just for you to tell me I can't have
a beer if.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
IoT runs twenty three hospitality businesses twenty three including accommodation,
bars and restaurants, conference facilities, liquor stores, neighborhood taverns, and
out catering. They employed six hundred and fifty people and
by using a combination of trading profit and income generated
from gaming machines located now various business I mean, if
you really cared about the community, you get rid of
(13:03):
those give back to the community regularly via grants, the
nations and sponsorships. I think that one doesn't give back
basically anything.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
No, And so what it does is it says it
hasn't reported a profit for that yet. Meanwhile, meanwhile, the
guy that's in charge of it's made half a million dollars,
but the company itself hasn't made a profit.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
In for Cargo is often the envy of other provincial
cities because of the facilities and infrastructure that have been
built as a result of this community funding. And some
excellent examples are the Ilt Stadium, the s I T
Velodrome and Splash Palace. That's the place where they had
that code brown the whole time. Remember, we kept doing
shits in there. Ilt exists for our community, and we're
(13:45):
delighted to play our part in making a vibrant in
for Cargo for all who live in our wonderful city.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah. I don't think it needs it, And I know
O'Brien's on the board as he should be, Angelain Newell,
Sean Bellows.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And Prentice the Bloody Singer is pet Graham hawks Schari
Kerry and Chris Ramsey is the executive.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I think Yeah, I don't know. I think it's outdated.
I don't know if we you know, my my litmus
test for any of these things is if it didn't exist,
would we invent it? And I think that as a
resounding no, we would not invent that. And the only
defense that I would hear from anyone would always will be,
oh but when you know otherwise we're going to have
rampant drinking in the community. Hey, Southland, you already do well.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I was just looking at the Ilt area and it's
a map, and it's so you're not that it's not
that big. It's just basically in the cargyl, like the
main the main streets of MBA doesn't really extend out,
so you could chuck a pup on the outside of
the Actually, I think the other license. I think there's
other areas with licensing trusts on there.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I think there's a total one one.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Oh right, So they are so Southland. Ye have you
heard of the well tag?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
No, the west Auckland Licensing Trust Action Group And they
actually tried to get this rid of the silly thing
in west Auckland a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Oh yeah, they're forever trying to get rid of every election.
They're like, we'll get rid of it, We'll get rid
of it.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
They need fifteen percent of eligible voter voters in the region,
so they needed about seventeen thousand votes, and they tried
to do it a few years ago, and they went
in They're like, look, we got thirty eight thousand votes.
And those votes went before some scrutiniers and they found
things like people went on the electoral roll, they weren't
inside the area. Seven thousand signed up.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
More than once was it petition?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, right, seventy one of them unreadable? And then partitions.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I've always found like, like if I was a politician,
someone showed up with a petition, I'd be like, very cool,
you've scribbled on a PiZZ of paper. How about you
take that pezza paper shove it.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
So the IL team made seven million dollars profit last year.
That's good and it gave out.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Can I also just quickly on the profit that the
ILT has made, that they aren't investing it back into
the community. Where do you think that money came from
the people in the community. That money didn't just get
dropped in from, you know, from on high. That came
out of people's pockets. So don't turn around and say,
let you're doing something amazing. Anyway, I've got another one
(16:21):
here if you'd like to hear it, one one more
to finish on, or would you like to hear him
tomorrow perhaps Gordon McCrone he is running also for the ILT.
He is from the Advanced Task Force political party. His
principal place of residence of the McCargo City Council area
checks out. And I'm going to read this verbatim, all right,
(16:43):
there's a lot in here. Comedian Levity escaped Auckland. Rush
hour traffic thirty kilometers an hour at three pm earns
more than the new Zealand Prime Minister advising owners on
business strategy, Senior software engineer and forensic accountant mitigating one
hundred and twenty Australian Australian one hundred and twenty million
(17:04):
dollars of bank theft per year in Australia and New Zealand.
My agent plus app transacts five hundred million Australian per
week in Rent. In nineteen eighty nine, I AM witnessed
to two thousand and one September nine to eleven terrorist
attacks and assassinations of their trusted staff of Pentagon Wow
ridiculed in Windings originally not the Arabs. In nineteen ninety seven,
(17:27):
witnessed a succession planning list of all New Zealand Prime
Ministers and all are on schedule voting means nothing worked
for the Department of Internal Affairs on Women's suffrage petition
and war tactic Treaty of Whitehangi Crying Waters. In nineteen
ninety seven witnessed witness to bitcoin account eleven million named
Heath Ledger as planned assassination to be actioned. In two
(17:50):
thousand and seven, studying to be general practitioner critical shortage
of Icago aightf KIWI worldhistorygidium dot Com. Smiley face.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Glad there's a smiley face at the end. This guy's
all the way to the top. Gordon mccroane goes all
the way to the top. Thoughts on Gordon mcrow He's
got my vote. He makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I think he's got someone making sense, someone with someone
that's willing to stand.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Up actually, and also just to cut through the bs. Yeah,
he's totally cut through the bs there.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, there's too much red tape, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
He doesn't, Yeah, totally. I think with him there will
be no red tape.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Gordon McCrone wrote seven, how did he witness the nine
to eleven September two thousand and one attacks in nineteen
eighty nine?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
How do you do that? While we're talking about a
guy here who in nineteen ninety seven witnessed the succession
planning of all New Zealand Prime.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I mean, that makes sense and you'll be happy to
know it's it's all on the good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
He also, I mean, I mean the stuff this guy's
done for the country. He worked for the Department of
Internal Affairs on women's suffrage and the Treaty of White
tonguey you know what I mean. This guy should be.
This guy's a national here.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
So nineteen ninety seven, Yeah, did he see the plan
that said just cinder adjourne yep would then step down
for a little bit, yeap chappy, and then Chippy would
come in and then interesting And he saw that ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yes, And his point there is that that means that
voting means nothing, and that's why he's asking for your
vote and the upcoming of a cargole licensing trust. And
I gotta be honest with you, he's got it, Okay,
should not this thing on there? Keep those coming through,
by the way,
Get a It's Jerry here from the Heartachey Breakfast, just
letting you know that if you're listening to the podcast
but didn't know that we also do a live radio show,
we do. And if you're wondering how to find out
what frequency to listen to us in your area, just
takes north or South as an island to three four
eight three and only you know. And now let's get
on with the podcast. The date is the eighteenth of
(00:36):
September twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
The day is Thursday.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The hosts are Jeremy Wellesman, I Stewart, President Rudas Present.
The name of the podcast, we don't really.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Know, do you know what? I just call it the podcast.
You call it the podcast. So very confusing though, because
there's also the radio show podcast, which is also a podcast,
which but it's called the radio but as a radio
show a podcast, And if you didn't know that, we
do a radio show, and you should go and listen
to the radio show.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
If you want to know what the frequencies a I
just text North or South three four eight three.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You would have already heard that, but I just think
it's important to reiterate this is our marketing employee for
the second half of twenty twenty five is to convince
all the podcast listeners to listen to a radio show.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well, we asked a while ago, are there any people
who are listening to this podcast who have never who
didn't know that we do a radio show? Yep, and
not a single person came back. There were everybody knows
there's the key yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And the ones that are like, I don't listen to
the radio show are like, because I live in Candadate
or I live in live in, live in, live in Livinda, Loca,
for example. Right, Andrew Beeman, who the photo of the
keyboard that we saw yesterday. Remember I showed you that
photo of the keyboard, the white stuff all over it,
(01:53):
and we're like, what is that stuff?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And so I wrote a message to him, tied it
to a paget and sent it off off. So what
is that stuff? And Andrew Beeman, the Canadian listener with
the white white stuff all over his keyboard, replied and said,
plastic sawdust. I work as a saw operating operator in
a manufacturing plant that bills doors and windows, plastic sawdust.
Plastic sawdust. It's not really text that came through the
(02:17):
radio dust that come off a saw. Yes, that's right.
I used to get bone dust on my heir at
freezing wooks. Is if you stand close enough to the
band saw, then you get bone dust all through. That stinks.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I love the smell, oh, I bet it does. I
love the smell of sawdust off a tree though. Timber smell.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Me and my Auntie is going to walk. Your dogs are along,
but sort of beside the port and tamar and there's
like a massive lumber yard there. My god, that smells gird.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I think that's proof that we should be and amongst
the tree, yes, because we just immediately you smell that
smell and something about it? What is that? Does anyone
not like the smell of timber? Timber?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Different timbers too. My dad had a mate who was
a carver over on the West coast, and you'd go
into a shop and they have all the wood at
the bat you just have it, just different kind of sandalwood.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Sandalwood that's my shaving cream that I use. Bloody Good
Stuffies is some good smelling woods. Yeah, I love I
like sandal wood. Cody is a beautiful smelling.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah it is hard words. They smell good man I
mean this is why Master, you were saying we need
to get some wood in here. Oh you reckon.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
It was the smell.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
No, But I just think that there's something about you know,
wood and having it around it, the feel of it. Man,
A good well sanded wood feels good.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
The smell of timber releases aromatic compounds that are psychologically
calming and lower your heart rate and streets. Yeah, and
pleasant memories of nature and comfort.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, that makes sense, so because that's what we're meant
to be as animals.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Never the road has just broken a cardinal rule broadcasting,
and that has never sniffed. Jerry's done it to never
sniff a microphone. No, pops, I share one with Jayson. No,
I'm not going to fucking stuff that. In fact, I'm glad.
I'm sick at the moment. I can't smell anything.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
No, because I think that's a big thing about people
being in like concrete and stuff. If you spend too
much time in concrete, you're crazy, and cities you go
but nuts. You know, I mean to be around concrete, man,
you mean to be about around wood and water?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Would you? I was gonna there was a little cigarette
head there and I've entirely lost it. It was going
to be a word. Would you rather? We have got
a bunch more local election candidates. Oh, you have to
go through it if you would liked it? Please, gentlemen,
can I take you for a trip down south? No? Okay,
(04:42):
I'm already going Okay, you're already going south. We're gonna
heid where's this one? Hold on and be with me. Well, unfortunately, gentlemen,
we're gonna we're gonna have to go south because both
of these candidates are in South, and both candidates have
been sent through separately by multiple different people into the conclave,
which is the Hodacky Breakfast Facebook private group, safe space
(05:03):
for you to discuss basically whatever whatever you want. The
Mbcago Licensing Trust is electing six board members, one of
them pleading for your vote. Jeremy Wales is Cain, Big
Daddy Johnson, Big Daddy Johnson, Big Daddy Johnson. So yesterday
we had Big Rid Scheffer, his brother is Goose, and
(05:26):
somebody posted into the conclave, I see your big Red
and I raised you Big Daddy Cain, Big Daddy Johnson.
My principal place of residence is in the Invercargo licensing
trust area. My family's connections to Invercargo spans generations. I'm
Cain Big Daddy Johnson, and I'm asking for your vote
to bringing a fresh perspective backed by proven experience to
(05:49):
the LT the Iltcago license.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah great, great, great organization. The ILT. Now they are
so the wounders who decide how much where alcohol is served,
the amount of if it controls alcohol in the cargo
and pokeys so bars can only be in certain places
and they take all the money from that. Yeah, they
own the bars.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
And one time they built an indoor facility where the
Southern steel play and where you can ride your bike
around and around and around in circles and one time
it's snowed there in the roof have it. But they
did that once and they keep pointing back to that
as a bit of a.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
We put money back into the community, is what they say.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And where I live in West Akland now has got
the same thing. There's a licensing trust which means there's
no pubs mate in west Auckland. That's where for those
of you from around the country. West Aalkland is where
Outrageous Fortune was filmed and set. There are no pubs. No,
there's no pubs because of the licensing trade Burra mafia.
If they didn't exist and they tried to put one in,
there would be fucking outraged.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I can't believe that places allowed these stupid licensing that's insane.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Every year the Herald, or I'm pretty sure it's the
Hero puts out in an instigation into how much they
actually invest back into the community.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
The White Tackli one's the worst. Yes, like it's it's
officially the worst, the Southland one, the Inbicago one. It
does put money back in and so as a result,
but it also spends huge amounts of money on advertising itself,
getting to the community to show that it's good.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
But it's like, you don't need to advertise. We're forced
to pay you. So what do you mean you're advertising.
It's not like we've got an option.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, it's a weird it's a weird set up, and
I think they think that if they don't exist, it
will be like some kind of wild West, Like I
don't know if anybody's been in Southland, has sort of
been anywhere else in the world, but.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
They're like in Auckland.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Imagine if you said in Auckland Central. There's going to
be a licensing trust and we're going to appoint these
people and they're going to control all of the bars
and distrants. They're going to tell you what you can do,
what you can open, what you can't you can put
a bar, even the music that you going to play
inside of your bar ex sends that. The deals that
you're going to do with breweries, yep. I understand the
(08:06):
ILT has a brewery that it supports, because there's obviously
the two major breweries, A Lion and dB and you
know expert opture. We do stuff with DBH. I'm pretty
sure dB is the I L T.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Right brewery.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
But that means that that is the only like that
means line is not allowed in there at all because
they do it. They do a blanket deal. Yep, they
do a blanket deal.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's in the bars. It's no bars that there's a
that's a terrible idea. The other thing that happens there
and I don't know if this I don't think this
happens in a Vicago, But in West Aokland, you cannot
buy alcohol at the supermarket, which may which you would think,
oh no, so where are going to get your past from. Well,
don't worry. Every single supermarket has a bottle store right
next to.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
It, because it's exactly because super Lika is owned by
by the supermarkets owned by.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
If it didn't, there's no way we would tolerate someone
coming in. Like, if you live in a part of
the country where this doesn't exist, this is going to
sound insane to you, And imagine them coming into your
neighborhood and being like, Oh, we're thinking of taking over
all of the rules that we've just laid out there.
I think it's a hangover from the prohibition data.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That's exactly because it used to be dry Southland. Southland
had prohibition.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, they've all got these pubs and I forget what
they called. Are they called highway houses or something like that.
It's a pub that's right on the because each individual
town had their own prohibition rules. Omrou's got one, and
there's a pub right on the boundary of where those
prohibsion rules ran out. A lot of South Island towns
have them. You'll see a pub just them bump fuck
nowhere and you're like, why is that there? That was
(09:42):
the outer limit of where you were allowed to drink past.
It's all you do is drive out there, get tanked
and then drive back home again.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That's so silly.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
We got a relax on the rules, and there's fourteen
year olds drinking beer in Germany their entire lives. They
don't lose the plot. The reason we lose the plot,
as kiwis, is because there's so many rules on when
you can and can't drink pass. The clearest example is
key we at an open bar, they're going to make
a deck of themselves every single time. Whereas if you
grew up with an open bar, if there was never
(10:12):
any rules in it. Who brought this fucking soap box
into this?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Oh no, no, that's fair enough for everything. Now, I mean,
you've got to have a crack.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Can I finish cane Big Daddy Johnson's please? So what's
he going to do on the IoT?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
That's what I want to know. He's just going to
get on the IoT and won't do the same thing
and every other mofos ever done.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I don't know what he's going to do, but I
know a bit more about it. So we take a
quick break. I'll come back and tell you a bit
about Cane. Big Daddy Johnson. Many of you know me
is this is Kane Big Daddy Johnson to find you, Jerry,
welcome back, Thank you. Many of you know me as
the voice of the Southland Stags, Sharks and Steel. He's
the voice of all three. My passion is connecting with
(10:52):
our community, a skill I've honed as a teacher and
cultural leader in our skills. This public role is supported
by a strong background and commercial and operational management for
me national retailers and governments experience on regional boards. In
my professional life, I've managed staff, overseeing projects that mentored
the other professionals to help them succeed. I have the
business aconmym for the big boardroom and genuine understanding of
our communities is hard. I would be honored to earn
(11:12):
your trust and serve in for Cargo, big voice, big heart,
big for Ilt.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Okay, so what about an ANTIILT person on the IoT?
Do they have any antiilt people on there? And TILTA
After thirty eight years of prohibition and the Cargo voted
in the trust system in nineteen forty four, when we
boldly decided that the legal sales of olcohols should be
directly benefited to our community, Ilt were given three mandates.
(11:38):
Firstly to provide quality hospitality businesses, secretly to operate those
businesses and the interest of public well being. I don't
think that's happened. And thirdly, to distribute the profits back
to the community by of grants and donations. I think
they do do that. That's all these years later. We're
proud to still be delivering on these goals. But that
is what happens with individual businesses too. Yeah, you distribute,
(12:01):
you pay tax, and then you distribute money back into
you go and buy stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But also like, okay, so we came up with that
in nineteen forty four. What was going on in nineteen
forty four? Oh, first off, the prohibition. Do you remember
there was a vote in nineteen forty four for whether
we should get rid of prohibition or not, and the
votes were being countered and it was looking like, no,
we're going to keep prohibition for the longest time until
the overseas soldiers. Soldiers' votes came in by way of
(12:28):
mail and then they voted them, and then all of
a sudden they ended prohibition. So those kids over there
were like, we are fucking not coming back after this.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
And they had they held sway because they've been across a.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Wars just for you to tell me I can't have
a beer if.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
IoT runs twenty three hospitality businesses twenty three including accommodation,
bars and restaurants, conference facilities, liquor stores, neighborhood taverns, and
out catering. They employed six hundred and fifty people and
by using a combination of trading profit and income generated
from gaming machines located now various business I mean, if
you really cared about the community, you get rid of
(13:03):
those give back to the community regularly via grants, the
nations and sponsorships. I think that one doesn't give back
basically anything.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
No, And so what it does is it says it
hasn't reported a profit for that yet. Meanwhile, meanwhile, the
guy that's in charge of it's made half a million dollars,
but the company itself hasn't made a profit.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
In for Cargo is often the envy of other provincial
cities because of the facilities and infrastructure that have been
built as a result of this community funding. And some
excellent examples are the Ilt Stadium, the s I T
Velodrome and Splash Palace. That's the place where they had
that code brown the whole time. Remember, we kept doing
shits in there. Ilt exists for our community, and we're
(13:45):
delighted to play our part in making a vibrant in
for Cargo for all who live in our wonderful city.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah. I don't think it needs it, And I know
O'Brien's on the board as he should be, Angelain Newell,
Sean Bellows.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And Prentice the Bloody Singer is pet Graham hawks Schari
Kerry and Chris Ramsey is the executive.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I think Yeah, I don't know. I think it's outdated.
I don't know if we you know, my my litmus
test for any of these things is if it didn't exist,
would we invent it? And I think that as a
resounding no, we would not invent that. And the only
defense that I would hear from anyone would always will be,
oh but when you know otherwise we're going to have
rampant drinking in the community. Hey, Southland, you already do well.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I was just looking at the Ilt area and it's
a map, and it's so you're not that it's not
that big. It's just basically in the cargyl, like the
main the main streets of MBA doesn't really extend out,
so you could chuck a pup on the outside of
the Actually, I think the other license. I think there's
other areas with licensing trusts on there.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I think there's a total one one.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Oh right, So they are so Southland. Ye have you
heard of the well tag?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
No, the west Auckland Licensing Trust Action Group And they
actually tried to get this rid of the silly thing
in west Auckland a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Oh yeah, they're forever trying to get rid of every election.
They're like, we'll get rid of it, We'll get rid
of it.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
They need fifteen percent of eligible voter voters in the region,
so they needed about seventeen thousand votes, and they tried
to do it a few years ago, and they went
in They're like, look, we got thirty eight thousand votes.
And those votes went before some scrutiniers and they found
things like people went on the electoral roll, they weren't
inside the area. Seven thousand signed up.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
More than once was it petition?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, right, seventy one of them unreadable? And then partitions.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I've always found like, like if I was a politician,
someone showed up with a petition, I'd be like, very cool,
you've scribbled on a PiZZ of paper. How about you
take that pezza paper shove it.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
So the IL team made seven million dollars profit last year.
That's good and it gave out.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Can I also just quickly on the profit that the
ILT has made, that they aren't investing it back into
the community. Where do you think that money came from
the people in the community. That money didn't just get
dropped in from, you know, from on high. That came
out of people's pockets. So don't turn around and say,
let you're doing something amazing. Anyway, I've got another one
(16:21):
here if you'd like to hear it, one one more
to finish on, or would you like to hear him
tomorrow perhaps Gordon McCrone he is running also for the ILT.
He is from the Advanced Task Force political party. His
principal place of residence of the McCargo City Council area
checks out. And I'm going to read this verbatim, all right,
(16:43):
there's a lot in here. Comedian Levity escaped Auckland. Rush
hour traffic thirty kilometers an hour at three pm earns
more than the new Zealand Prime Minister advising owners on
business strategy, Senior software engineer and forensic accountant mitigating one
hundred and twenty Australian Australian one hundred and twenty million
(17:04):
dollars of bank theft per year in Australia and New Zealand.
My agent plus app transacts five hundred million Australian per
week in Rent. In nineteen eighty nine, I AM witnessed
to two thousand and one September nine to eleven terrorist
attacks and assassinations of their trusted staff of Pentagon Wow
ridiculed in Windings originally not the Arabs. In nineteen ninety seven,
(17:27):
witnessed a succession planning list of all New Zealand Prime
Ministers and all are on schedule voting means nothing worked
for the Department of Internal Affairs on Women's suffrage petition
and war tactic Treaty of Whitehangi Crying Waters. In nineteen
ninety seven witnessed witness to bitcoin account eleven million named
Heath Ledger as planned assassination to be actioned. In two
(17:50):
thousand and seven, studying to be general practitioner critical shortage
of Icago aightf KIWI worldhistorygidium dot Com. Smiley face.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Glad there's a smiley face at the end. This guy's
all the way to the top. Gordon mccroane goes all
the way to the top. Thoughts on Gordon mcrow He's
got my vote. He makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I think he's got someone making sense, someone with someone
that's willing to stand.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Up actually, and also just to cut through the bs. Yeah,
he's totally cut through the bs there.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, there's too much red tape, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
He doesn't, Yeah, totally. I think with him there will
be no red tape.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Gordon McCrone wrote seven, how did he witness the nine
to eleven September two thousand and one attacks in nineteen
eighty nine?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
How do you do that? While we're talking about a
guy here who in nineteen ninety seven witnessed the succession
planning of all New Zealand Prime.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I mean, that makes sense and you'll be happy to
know it's it's all on the good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
He also, I mean, I mean the stuff this guy's
done for the country. He worked for the Department of
Internal Affairs on women's suffrage and the Treaty of White
tonguey you know what I mean. This guy should be.
This guy's a national here.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
So nineteen ninety seven, Yeah, did he see the plan
that said just cinder adjourne yep would then step down
for a little bit, yeap chappy, and then Chippy would
come in and then interesting And he saw that ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yes, And his point there is that that means that
voting means nothing, and that's why he's asking for your
vote and the upcoming of a cargole licensing trust. And
I gotta be honest with you, he's got it, Okay,
should not this thing on there? Keep those coming through,
by the way,
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.