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October 27, 2025 • 19 mins

Today on the podcast, Manaia Stewart returns to tell Jeremy Wells (and Rooda) about how his trip to the Southern States was.

And why is his partner gaslighting him?

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Get a it's deary here from the Headachey Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
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let's get on with the podcast. So nice that you

(00:35):
didn't talk over the top of that intro, and I stood,
welcome back to the podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Listen is more. I find the less work you can do,
and talking into the microphone as my work, and so
I find the less I can do the better.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
For a lot of people said nothing to do. The
g Lane school of broadcasting was just talk right over
the top of that intro, asking a lot of questions.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
I was like, just settle down, it's okay. So what
should I text.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
North North Island?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Is that I should know?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I was trying to say to look, we might have
central character syndrome, but nothing, This is not aimed at you.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
The spotlight is not on your head.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, right now, welcome back from America.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Good to be here. Man, that is that was acept
Rocky at the start there and that is yeah, that's here,
and you I an acep Rocky embroad in a situation.
At the moment you probably don't even know the situation
is still going on, but it is.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
It's an ongoing situation.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
It's an ongoing situation that was first brought to your
attention outside the ray Ban shop in South Congress, Austin,
Texas and just across from the Austin City Hotel motel
where we had the most confusing lunch of that poor
Mexican lady's life, where me and you, Joe Jury and

(01:55):
g Lane pulled up and sat down and had no
idea what to order. We were so hungover. This was after
day three of the festival. We couldn't even look at
the menu. I looked at the menu and I just
saw hieroglyphics. It was all in English. She goes, what
do he goes want? We're like, uh, everything was kind
of the same but not and we're like, what would
you recommend? Shes And in the end we're just like, look,

(02:16):
we're gonna live with you. There's nothing here. We're dead inside.
So if you can just order and she didn't. It
was the listen.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
She was really good man. She ordered for us. Yeah,
I was very happy with what I got.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Taco's orange juice was great. Anyway, we walked out of
there and you walked over to the ray bands store.
You walked back out with it was bizarre. It looked
like a small sleeping bag case in your hand. I
was like, what do you got there, Jerry, and you said,
I've got a new pair of sunglasses. And you opened
the sleeping bag case and inside there was a giant

(02:46):
looked like a kidney.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Bean weird shaped box.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
We had shaped cool shape box. So flipped that open
and inside were limited edition acep Rocky ray bands in there.
And you said, if they're good enough for acept Rocky,
they're good enough for me. And I said, man, it's
funny that you've bought these, because I have been. They
came out a few months ago and I've had my
eye on them for the longest time. I've tried them

(03:10):
on about three or four times, and every time my
missus goes, you look ridiculous in those take those off,
and I was like, bugg yer, because they're really cool glasses.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Oh, you put them on and I'm like, they look good.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
I tried them on after you bought them, and everyone agreed.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
They suited you. Do you look sick? I'm starting to question.
I think Jeff thinks that maybe look too good with them.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Because she is getting a little she was. We discussed
it yesterday again. I said, I'm buying those that now
the show glasses, and we have to buy them. I'm
buying them now that we're back and we got a
little bit of money left over from the holiday. I'm
gonna treat myself. She goes, I'm just as your life partner.
I just need to do my job and tell you
that you don't look good in those. And I was like,
I didn't ask you if I.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Look good in them.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I want them and I would like you to support
my dreams. But the reason that the thing is, she's
getting so passionate about it that I think you're right.
I think she might be worried that I'm going to
look too good.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
You look too good, and next thing, you know, you're
just going to have women and men dropping off you.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
I know. And this is the thing. So we were
sitting at a fried chicken joint in Nashville and directly
across the not even the road. We're like a mall
sort of situation. Was the Ray band shop. I said,
coming after this, we're going to go over there, I'm
gonna put these glasses on again.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I put them on.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
She is you can't wear those? I was like, this
is you're too passionate about it. That's when I text
you and I said, are these the glasses you bought?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
And you were like yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
I said, Jeff's still not a fan of them. And
you said, is she worried that you're going to look
too attractive? I said, she is. But it's important to
have boundaries in your relationship. And so I need to
put my foot down here, you know, Yeah, I think so.
I make so many concisions in my life. There's no
there no trace of me living in my house, you
know what I mean. If you walk into my house,
you'll be like, there's no evidence that Mania lives in here.

(04:49):
It's all you know. It's good if you commit a crime, though,
great if you commit a crime. I drive.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
There's not a PlayStation four or anything in there.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
There is a PlayStation five, but I've installed that through
the wall and behind scenes.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Oh wow, I'm pretty stuck. About that. But theyn't never
look there.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
They'll never find it and throp aside the bodies. But
you know, and I drive a Suzuki Swift. I make
a lot of concessions, you know, as all men do
in relationships, and even now and then you hit your
limit and you look, I've just got to take my
balls back out of your purse. Yeah and buy acep
Rockies glasses.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, okay, so I think that's what I want to do,
Just want to have a look. What are they online?
They must be You can get them, that's the thing.
You've tried them mine, you know they work, work, Yeah,
you can get them.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
You can get them online.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
They're not cheap. They are cheaper here than they are
the same price here as they are in America. Ray
band puffer, but what the exchange rate? They're about fucking
twice as much over in America. They's actually cheaper here.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
They're the ray band puffery, the ray band puffer. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Three two. I've found them for two seventy five online,
didn't you. Which, again, that's quite a lot of money
to be playing paying for a pair of glasses. So
I can understand why she should be like co on
about two hundred and seventy. You know, pay three hundred
bucks for a pair of glasses, you look stupid. And
the issue was so Jerry puts them on. He looks
quite good in them.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I put them on. You look better than me.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
A little bit gangy, A little bit gangy, if I'm honest.
But they are cool. But there is a little look, look,
I look a little affiliated.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Have you thought about getting the ray Ban acet Rocky
Ultra Wrap Double O one next Generation Collection edition sunglasses?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Are they the speed dealer looking ones?

Speaker 1 (06:38):
They are the four thy three hundred and one dollar
glasses that look real weird? Oh, quite cool. There's also
the acet Rocky wayfair of puffer and white.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, that's wow. At that point, we're wandering into.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
He's got, says, obviously a real ray band thing going
on here with acet r I'm just looking at all
the other photos of them, and he looks he just
every song glass looks good on that guy.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, I know that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Wow, he's got a friend of mine's got the same
gift at sir party trick. She puts spir of glasses on.
She goes every pair of sunglasses. So it's looks good
on me. And I'm like, this can't be real. And
she'll put on a pair of sunglasses and you're like, hey,
look good, and then someone else's sunglasses. Every pair of
sunglasses looks good, somehow looks good. Because I've got another
friend who every pair of sunglasses looks terrible.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
I've got to mate like that too. I'll say his
name into the microphone. I don't care. Peter McConnell if
you know him, he's been on the show before. He
was the guy who tested the tapwater for us, and yeah,
peton Tmorrow. He does not suit accessories of any kind.
He does not look good in a hat. He doesn't
look good in glasses. Yeah, some watchers kind of suit

(07:47):
Him's got big trading hands.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Has he got a fetus head?

Speaker 2 (07:52):
That's they'll be a head like a fetus, rather than
he's got a fetus hid because that would.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Be former producer of the show here bang bang it
couldn't wear a cap. He had a massive head, and
you didn't. You did not pack him for a big head.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
I don't recall him to have a big head.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
No, but it's huge. It's a long head, isn't it's
it's it's long, it's bag from the front of the
back like a fish. Yeah yeah, I mean it's got
the it's a fetus.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
It's almost like an alien. Well, anyway, Pete's whole thing
was I don't suit any accessories because God made me perfect.
He nailed it straight off. Realized I'll never do any
better than this, and so that's why I don't suit them.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, okay, yeah, So so where are you sitting on these?
A set rockets them right now?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
I think now I'll buy them on the way home.
Remember I biked up to South Congress again in Austin
to go and buy them, and you had bought the
last peer there was. This was stupid, So there was
one pair left on the shelf, the display peer. I
was like, I'll just have those. No, No, we can't
sell that. That's a display You don't have any of them,

(09:04):
I know, that's what I was saying. So I was like,
they were like, but but if we sell you those,
then we don't have one to put on displayers Like, yeah,
because you don't have any, you shouldn't. Would you play
them if you don't sell This was my thing.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Is that a rule? Then that should be a rule.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Then they threatened to deport me. An ice agent came
in and then I was like, a right, all right.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
We back in just a moment. Hated you see, oh
you're away in the weekend. But some more played Tonga.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
I did not see that at all in a rug belong.
I know they did, but I didn't see it.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
And some more beat Tonga beat them up.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, and I see twenty three people were arrested for
celebrating a little bit too loosely.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
I saw I saw people hanging out of carwhen on motorways.
And actually when I pulled into the parking lot this morning,
there was a a ute, a red ute adorned in
tongue and flags bunting him a bunting wrapped all around
the back of it. Bunting four bunting our four. Last

(10:17):
remember when they had the World Cup the origin of
the bunting our for flag situation. Yeah, you know when
flags became a big thing. I saw a van on
the motorway that had a wooden framework attached to the
top of it so that it could fit more flags
on it. And it would have had like twenty something flags,

(10:38):
big bars. It's like proper wave it around flags, right,
And I was wondering. I've just got back from the States,
but I don't know who's got more flags, Tongua or
the USA.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's a good question they've got They've certainly got some
big flags in the States.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Oh, they got some big bars for sure. And everyone's
got one in their house, which I always find like, what,
you're in America? The way do you need to fly
the American flag?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
You're there showing that you're proud of the fact that
you're in America.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
But you're all in America. So who are you like
if you were at the border waving a flag, you know,
because the flag is that I'm from here. It's like
you were all from here? So who kids?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
It makes sense at the at the league because I
got the tongue flag, You've got the Samon flag where
flagging off?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, was there a flag off going on between tongue
and some more. They don't get anywhere here. The someone's
not anywhere near the tongue.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Like they tried. But I think they need to back
down a little bit there because Tongue has got them covered.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
So when most people celebrated peacefully, the police said that
they were very disappointed by several incidents of unlawful behavior.
Unlawful behavior including high risk driving, people riding on top
of vehicles, and sustained loss of traction.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Skits they're doing heaps of skits.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Were they're doing swinging o's.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
The moment swing was reverse dawlies in the fron wheel drive.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Maybe as a result, fourteen people were rested on Saturday
and nine on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
She's still celebrations still going in they have been Sunday morning.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I was going to say, is that like midnight Saturday night?

Speaker 2 (12:12):
He's also issued Police also issued two hundred and four
infringement notices.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Jesus christ Full, what's what the car based celebrations?

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Well, I know that cars are a big part of
Pacific Island culture. Anyone who's ever been to someone knows
that half of the cars and someone that you cannot
see out the windscreen there's that much shit on the dashboard.
They'll have a family member's name plastered across the top
of the windscreen, something else across the bottom, and so
how do you even see out that thing.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I witnessed a car when I was in Austin and
a person was living in the car and it was
like ISSUV type of thing, you know, classic American SUV,
quite a big one.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Oh yeah, I got a sports utility vehicle.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
It was a sports utility vehicle. And but the person
was a hoarder. So like you think, you know, if
you're gonna drive, if you're gonna live in a car,
you don't want much stuff because you've got to drive
that stuff around the place. And it was driving along
and they could hardly see out of it, and they're
going real slow because of all of the crap that

(13:18):
they had hoarded.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Oh I saw some. The homeless situation in the States
is real interesting because it's a total spectrum.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
It's a but it's a it's an aggressive brand of
homeless person over there that car town homeless there like
yelling on the street and close with a shoving.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Trolley full of share. Yeah, there's those ones. There's there's
dudes and duets with quite a lot of positions, and
then there's some that kind of a hot car sort
of operation, and there some that are quite organized with
it and quite tidy, and then there's some that don't
literally have anything.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
And they will yell fall in your ear while you're
walking up man. Yeah, Yeah, that guy freaked the hell
out of me. Was on the corner. There was also
I don't know if we talked about this one of
the podcasts while we were over there, but there was
the person who approached you with a problem. Did we
discuss that. I think we might have discussed this.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
No, we've never discussed this.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Okay, So I'll tell it from my point of view
and then you tell it from yours. I'm walking, Jerry's
probably about twenty meters ahead of me, and we're just
walking up the street. And then I'm sort of plodding
away having a yarm Joe and I look up and
Jerry's talking to someone on the footpath. I couldn't tell
if it was a man or a woman. I was like, Oh, good,
what's going on here? Has he asked them for directions
or I don't know. And then we got closer and

(14:39):
you guys were still in like quite a heated discussion,
and I thought, well, we'll just leave them till it.
We ended up walking past you guys, and then eventually
you caught back up to us and caught us up
in what had happened. But this person told you that
they had a problem that was their opener, wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I got a problem, sir, I got a problem. I said, oh,
what's your problem? It's your problem. I got a problem
with lice. Okay, I got a life problem. And I said,
what are you? What are you doing about that? And
he goes, I tried everything.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
I tried shampoo, I tried that oil did you put
in there?

Speaker 1 (15:17):
And I got lice? I still got lice. And I
was like, oh no, he guess can you buy me
some shampoo? And I said, I wondered where this was going.
I said, you've.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Tried the shampoo, haven't you still got the problem with lice?
And he's like, I said, that's bad. I said, that's terrible.
You've got those lights, you guess they are? They are
driving me mad. These lights are driving me mad. I said,
I totally understand.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
I totally understand. And he goes, oh. I said, have
you taken the shape to hear off? He goes, yeah,
look he took his cap off a man. It was
a man sort of thing, and it was a surprise.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
How was all sorts of different things there and yeah,
And then we got chatting about the light and I said, so,
I said, have you try the shampoo done, it doesn't work,
and he goes, I just need some money for some shampoo,
and I said, ah, that's a real shame about the lie.
I said, I don't have any cash on me.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Which was actually a lie.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
And instead of instead of saving this person from their
license festation, you went and bought some acep rocky sunglasses.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
I did, But to be fair, I was you guys
were ahead by excuse.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
By that stage. We were because we'd walk past you
because it seemed like a pretty It just looked like
you were talking to a local. I hadn't noticed that
you were talking to an unhoused gentleman. We just thought, oh,
Jerrie's like, oh do you know when New Zealanders you know?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Looking back, and I should have just given them some money,
but I was in a hurry. Also, I'm not sure
about the situation of what doing those in those times
in the States. You just don't know and what happens
you get it very polite gentleman, I've got to say,
and quite articulate. But that's why we didn't notice it
was a homeless person. But then then what you give

(17:13):
them a dollar? Now they're chasing up the street from
another dollar.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Is that yeah? I mean, and did he actually have lice?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
I couldn't see any I did have a little look. Yeah,
took his head off, and I had a little look,
and I was I was sympathizing with him. I think
he wanted he wanted someone to empathize with him for
the problem that he was having. That's the vibey God.
And I was happy to I see, they're terrible, man.
They must start having lice.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
That's horrible.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
I said, I've had I've had lice, My kids have
had lice, and it's a difficult thing to get rid of.
And I said, but the other thing is that I said,
if you had any of that shampoo before he goes Yeah,
but they just come back and I said, where are
you sleeping? I said to him, it's not great for
you that shampoo that you put on there. But then
I took a look at him and I thought, but

(17:57):
I think the myth's probably worse.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Much wiss A bit of a podcast teas for the
show tomorrow, just while it's on my mind. I talked
about it briefly. I learned about the origin of fried chicken.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Tomorrow. Tomorrow chicken not always exist.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
So like hot hot chicken, actually no it didn't. But
like hot fried chicken was invented in Nashville, was invented
by a man in Nashville by the name of Prince.
And this is a bit of an off tease, but
I'll tell you I reckon, I'll tell you tomorrow on

(18:34):
the show. And it involves a murder attempt, it involves adultery,
and it results in fried chicken. Who I'll tell you
how they come to That's hell, man, They've got some
good stories.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
It's just a country full of stories.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
I think it's all. It's all the croked ship.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
But really the Savior of Austin.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Tell Mary whatever her name was, Elizabeth, it's are you
telling me that she with the great up upation? You're
telling me that she wasn't that's not the story. With
the cannon shooting the cannon, the militia.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
The cannon's are right, Okay, all right, we're doing again tomorrow. Alright,
good to be back.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
It's good to have you. Ain't no angel gonna greeting me.
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