November 6, 2025 • 23 mins
Today Manaia and Rooda are joined by Tony Lyall, who tells them all about stand up comedy... how hard is it, who's the most punishing audience members, and what do you do when the night goes bad?
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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a bit of health. I should save some Blue Chree.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
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Speaker 3 (00:54):
Nice, that's a beautiful song.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
That's a great song. Welcome to the podcast, Tonty.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Hey, thanks Hamy. It's nice to be here, Nice to
be on the pod. Nice to listen to some of
the ADM and in real life.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, yeah, we do it. We do it in real time.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah. A lot of other podcasts they'll put that on
afterwards so that the people here don't actually listen to it,
but not here. Not here, this good podcast. You guys,
get everyone to listen to it.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
We do it for real. Thanks for hanging out with
us this morning. Hey, it's nice. I let you. Had
nothing else to do.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I looked out and saw beautiful sunshiny day, and you know,
my kids are probably out there somewhere. But hey, you know,
I'll stick around and do some potting.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I've got a few questions. I think a lot of
people have questions around stand up comedy. Yes, I feel
like you must get asked these kinds of things all
the time. One of the first ones is how often
do people tell you when either when they find out
that you're a stand up comedian or they meet you
for the first time or something. How often do they go,
You've always wanted to try that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's pretty often a lot of people will say, yeah, yeah,
I was going to do it. A lot of people
just think they'll be good at it. They go, yeah,
you know, yeah, my mates they tell me I should
give it a try, And they're the ones you got
to watch out for. It's people who don't think they're
being any good at it in self life over thing.
The other people who will be good The big one
is tell us a joke. That's number one. That's the one.
Everyone says. It's not a funny thing to say. No,
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anytime you say that's a comedian, they will, and I
say this on behalf of every comedian hate you so
much forever. There's no coming back from that. If you
tell a comedian tells a joke, you're done.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You did. I'll do a funny guy. Yeah, tell us
a joke. What do you do?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Make me laugh?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'm a plumber'm we'll come around and fix my toilet
for free.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, fix us, fix us. It's like meaning an athlete
dunk this basketball, then.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Dunk this, although I probably I probably would say that
to an athlete Towns dunk.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
That's Lebronn insights to me. Yeah, we're off the clock.
We don't have to do ship. What do you do?
When someone says, tell me joke?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I usually will say that. I'll be like, what do
you do? And whatever they say, I will add lib
a response. If you were say what do you do minight?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I'm a radio host, Hey give.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Us a clean voice, break into queens of the Stone age.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I'm not going to do it. Yeh see, it's no fun. No, well,
I'm I'm the same as you. I get. I get
people telling me sorry, I don't listen to your radio station,
completely unprovoked. I didn't ask, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I don't I run into this all the time where
I work a number of television shows, and so someone
will go, oh, you know, their friend might be a
fan of whatever seven Days or whatever it is, and
they'll say, oh, yeah, yeah, Skuy's on seven days. And
then if the person will be like, oh, I don't
watch TV, and then I'll be like, oh, okay, no.
Some of the people say I don't even have a
TV in my house, Like okay, what do you what
(03:32):
do you watch your content on? They're like, oh, you know,
I've got an iPad and you're yeah, you actually consume
more digital content than literally any other person you want.
You're on your phone for eight hours a day. Mate,
You're not better than me because you don't have a TV.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah. So I had this happened to me just over Christmas,
and this person was just like, I don't listen to
your radio station. I was like, oh hi, I'm Maniah.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Insane thing A convo lead off as I don't listen
to you Yeah, it's funny, and you no other job
gets it. The idea that people are very keen to
let you know that they're not engaged. I think it's
a variation of, you know, sort of a tall poppy vibe.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
It is. It's like, oh, this guy must think he's
the man. So trust me if you were inside my
head for five minutes.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, they're like, I just want to let you know that,
you know, mister big boots over here coming back to
why man, after you've been up in the big smoke,
you're not better than me.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah. And so this person I was like, well, I
did the same thing as you. Is like, what do
you do for jobs? She because I will get a
vit clinic.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I was.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I actually take my cat to the point ship vic clinic.
I actually put all my pits down myself. Yeah, it's like,
what what is that? Why is it that people just
have to Yeah. But the funniest one is Jerry. So
when he's out in the wild, because it's always older ladies, Yeah,
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watch seven sharp and you can you can see them
loitering around.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
He would activate a rest home. Jeremy, why I was
wandering into a rhyme and it would be absolute. It'd
be a four you know, Fox and a Henhouse scenario.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah. There, I've seen it on international flights, like eight
hours into a seventeen hour flight. This lady is just
sort of hovering back and forth, and it's just like,
just ask him what Hillary's like, Just get it over with. Haha.
I've seen it in the clubrooms at a golf course. Yeah,
I mean that's big. Let's Yeah. This lady just came
over and just struck up a conversation and I was like,
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you don't want to talk to me about what club
I'm a member, You're just here to ask Jerry.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, but I think a guy like Jerry, he's been
through it all before, he'd have this five moves to
get out of that conversation down. He knows to a quick,
quick acknowledgment do you want to photo? And then he
can carry on with a shop at Pakistan.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, Jerry's not going to pack.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
You just trying to make him seem like more of
a man of the people. But parough fresh Yeah, yeah,
of course you've got to go to farofresh.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The other thing I wanted to know about stand up comedy, Obviously,
the first question tell us a joke. I've always wanted
to do it. The other one is how easy enough
to get stage time and Zealand because I feel like
it's one of those things you need rips to get
good at it.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's a fully rip based activity. I mean, just by
its very nature. You never got to go on stage
with bankable material that you haven't tried out. It goes
through stages. There will be times where there's heaps of
opportunity to get stage time. But yeah, it's not like
New York's today where you can get up five times
a night, every night of the week. You've got to
be smart when it, use it well and do what
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you can. And that's why any comedian in New Zealand
and I will say this, they've had to put in
work to get where they are. Yeah, and so they'll
all do well overseas because they've had to be committed.
They've had to work their little butts off to get
any good and then you go overseas and you're like, oh, sweet,
well we will hold our own and do really well.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, Because I was thinking that when I was in
the overseas. I ended up in Nashville and just the
amount of bars there and I got it. I was like,
it's live music all day. Yeah, so you could do
forty fifty hours a week on stage playing a gig. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And I mean even because you went to Austin, right, Yeah,
did you go to any set up company when you're there?
Didn't get a chance, because that's the fun recruit mothership
that's got it all there.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Right. We had one night where we could have done
it and we just didn't. Yeah, And I was that
is my one regret from that trip.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You got to recoup it. This is a tough thing
when you are on a holiday. If you're not there
for ages. You got to feel like you're doing stuff
every It was like omen and if you don't, you
feel like you're a failure.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
It was living like you got to recharge. Five nights
and three of them were at the festival, and by
that last night I was an absolute shall of a man.
So we're like, oh, let's all have a quiet one.
Then all of a sudden we find ourselves at this
line dancing bar till like three in them all line dancing.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
It's never struck a core deep within me to give
it a go.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You just haven't been in the right place I think so.
I think so have you.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But it's like if you have a bit of a
bit at a bar and everybody starts doing a summer,
I feel I feel bit activated by that when I
when I see the summer, the white man deep down
in my loins goes, you don't need to be here.
You've got to humilate yourself and your an sistors. You know,
I've got no rhythm.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
There's something about all dancing together. It's just it's quite funny,
you know, turn around on this guy next to his
stuff and just like you. But anyway, my point was
that I could see how if you're a musician, this
is the way to get good at it, because you can.
But in New Zealand, like you might get one, like
you know, Rudy, you might get maybe two gigs across
the weekend.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, I mean, if you were to just absolutely pound
the pavement and you could play solo and stuff like.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That, you could do three or four a week.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
But man, that gets punishing because are exhausting. Yeah, they're
real hard, and because they're all drunk.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, yes, often they're massive endebrand And I mean I'm
pretty sure I've been that person in the crowd for
you a few times there, Ruda, that's true.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
When you did you throw a shoe on a roof once.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I didn't throw a shoe. What happened was it was
after a Test match. I believe it had been a
large match, and I had a mery old time. I
had a great old time, and in the pub Ruda
was playing. We having a good old dance. I went
to leave, walked out onto the street and a brew
haha broke out behind us.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
This is Tony's version. This is the truth.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
This is the honest truth. And there was a full
mellie that we were not evolved in. And for some reason,
I think I was waiting for an uber and I
kicked my shoe into the mille, like just you know,
when you take the shoe off your ankle, and just
like I just flicked it in just to you know,
add a bit of splice to the rice, just seeing
I couldn't explain it. One of those moments that's a
(09:22):
screw of the moment. And the bouncer did not take
kindly to this at all. He was so mad, and
I didn't feel like I didn't escalate. I mean, there's
two men rolling on the ground didn't hurt anyone. I
think you just sort of landed in the middle.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Ye might have been.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And I went up to get it, to get the shoe,
and the bouncer was so mad and he threw it
on the roof of the establishment. Bouncer throw on the roof,
and then the manager of the pub came out and
apologized for the bounce's behavior, and the bouncer was explaining
on what had happened, and even the manager was like, yeah,
this guy's a decade referring to me, but you still
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shouldn't have thrown the roof the shoe on the root,
and he had to apologize to me. And there's no
way you can't not you can go get the shoe
off the roof. I had to come back cap in
hand the following day and said, hey, listen, you got
that shoe down, did you? And as I walked in,
it was a perspects roof. I could see my shoe
fat tongue it me it was actually a Van's authentic black.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I could see it.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
As I walked in, I thought, they haven't got that down,
and I I sheepishly went in and it's that one
real return of the scene of the crime feel.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I don't like this feeling at all.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Leave my card, but I did have some mile high
ground because I know that they had apologized to me.
But at the end of it, it's a night real
in it when you when you're one shoe down, you
can't go to a different establishment you're dance.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So did you uber one shoe on, one shoe off?
Did you ever get the shoe back?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Never never got the shoe back. I mean, as far
as I know, it's it's still on the roof. I've
actually I went back like maybe six weeks later, because
I did, I did wonder if maybe I would be
you know, kindly asked not to come back to that wishman.
But also I need to point out I was not
in the ruckets. I was not the one causing and
causing mischief. And I went back about six weeks later,
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sill on the roof and I was like, oh, my
shoe's up there. But I had to try to keep
it pretty casual that it wasn't my shoe.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
It's now just part of the lore of that place.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, it's gone out. I have checked recently.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
It's gone. Should we take a quick break and come
back with Rudor's side of the story.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
We can't start.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Now feeling hip hop. Try to stand up. We got
in lockdown. I'm ready to rock, pretty browag. How do
you remember that story going down? Ruder?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I remember playing at the bar. I remember Tony coming
in and you said had an absolute skinful and was
dancing with a group of.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
People that you knew. But I feel like.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
They weren't that keen on you hanging around. I think
that they may I think that they may have suggested
that you go home.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
That I didn't know this people. I don't know anyone.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I thought one of them name names was Brad. I
thought Brad was one of those people that you were
that you were arm in arm with and kind of
doing a bit of a polka, a bit of a
can can.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I mean, I probably was trying to get a line
down and started to be honest.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
And then I just all I really remember is looking
out the window to my right, which is my strumming arm,
and seeing the bounce of pushing pushing you, and you're like,
I want to get back. You were trying to get
back in No, this is what I remember, and I
was sober.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, this is true. It's hard to deny with. When
someone comes at a sober man will come in and say,
this is what happened. You have to go yeah, you
know what, I might have to deviate to your this
could have maybe this could make sense. Maybe I just
booted out. And then while I was out there, a
ruckus unfolded and I loved my shoe into the general
the general direction of the.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Ruckus, I mean, the rest of it generally adds up.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I can see the manager of that particular establishment coming
out and saying, use this guy's a dicken.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, quite clearly Dave would say.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That, But I will say this, he was. He was
totally chill. He was He was like, yeah, it's kind
of just you know, felt really yeah, yeah, it's going
to And also, I hold no no will to this bouncer.
I think that's an understandable thing to have some DoD
lobs a shilling to to a rackust.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
You got to throw the shoe. I get it. I
totally understand, and honestly I'm on your side.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Do you know it does suck about doing covers. Well,
one thing that sucks about doing covers gigs. I've had
to get better at dealing with drunk people. Yeah, yeah,
that like to distract you. They like to come and
look right in your eyes while you're trying to play
a song and concentrate on words and chords and things
like that, and then they try and shake your hand
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and you're like, well, i'm playing the I'm playing the guitar,
and so sometimes I'll literally break and stop the song.
I'll be like, hang on, guys, sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I'll fuck fast needs his hands, just got.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
To shake old mate's hand.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, that I find because often I'm in a similar situation.
It's you're always the sober person or the sober rest,
and a situation where people are the most boozed back
to stand up comedy and you've got to get used
to because I be driving after the show and even
on there it's their night out and fair enough, and
I think I forget this often and I'll come off
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stage and they'll be talking to someone in the bar
and I'll be like.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
This pessive is acting weird.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
They're erratic, they're loud there, and then I'm like, oh,
they're shit face. Yeah, And I'll be like this person
is really like nice but intense and like really close
talking to me and spitting like, Oh, they're absolutely thunderboost
like het it, but yeah, you forge, I forget. I
constantly forget that everyone around me a chef face.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I think there's another part of stand up comedy where
people I think it. I don't know if it's just
a New Zealand thing. I'm sure it's all around the world.
But I feel good enough at stand up it sounds
like you are just having an It sounds like you're
just coming up with this stuff on the spot, and
you work quite hard at it, I presume, to make
it sound like you've just thought of it. Now, yeah,
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but you actually wrote this out, You've thought about it
a lot, You've performed in five hundred times everybody, and
then But to get it to a point to where
it sounds like I just walked it, you know what
I just thought of and to make someone laugh out
of that, and I think that that tricks dumber members
of the audience into thinking that they can do it too. Yes, like, oh,
you've just thought that. We'll have a I need to
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tell you what I've just thought of. It's going to
be just as funny as like, don I fucking spent
a lot of time on this.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
The worst is when someone will come up and they
will tell you a a premise for a joke. No, no,
like you know, like a joke like you heard your
dad say in nineteen ninety one. And they'll come up
and be like, hey, what about this one. It'll be like,
you know, a dead baby joke or whatever, and you're like, oh, yeah,
that that sucks, dude, and you should be ashamed yourself, yeah,
for thinking about it, just because yeah, it's a different
(15:37):
it's a different thing thing, Like what about this one?
You're like, yeah, no, we I just can't tell a
joke that you you heard in.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
The playground, yeah, in nineteen ninety six. Its people are
paying to be here. I can't be telling someone else's jokes.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, And I think that's why comedians to get annoyed
when they hear someone on stage showing someone else's jokes.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
You're like, I had to think about this and work
on it for ages. It's real hard to do.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
To like come up with something. I have to sit
back and wait for things to happen to me and
then I can try to turn them into stories. But
that's it's hard to manufacture.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
The other one is the like you said, before the
guy who goes, oh, everyone tells me I should do
stand up. Everyone says, I'm really funny. And we talked
to with Joe Damon on the podcast a while ago
and he was saying that the funny part about that
is Kiwi's hate that energy. Hueys hate the funny guy
in the office energy, and so you get up on
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stage and do that shit. It is like no one
wants to hear that.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
And I always think that the funny guy in the
office and the funny guy you know, your group of
mates is always funny people. I reckon they probably are
funnier than stand up comedians in general population when they're
just when you're out in the office and you're cracking up,
they probably are the funny ones around the place. But
it's so different when you've got to go on stage.
Like a lot of comedians, some of them are outrageous,
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outgoing people, but a lot of them are pretty chill
just in regular life, and they're working at it and
they can bring it up and it's something that will
work in front of every crowd, and they've planned and
they can walk on ten, fifteen, twenty, half an hour,
whatever amount I can be funny for this amount of time,
and that's when the office clown can't compete. You got
no one to rough off, You've got no one to
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zig and zag off. You've just got yourself and your
own big dumb ideas.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
That's part of it is. It's a very different thing
to like when you're sitting around with your mates and
you having a guess. But I think we talked to
someone else about this. But that's the funniest you'll ever
be because you've got a common reference point. You let
you guys all get the same references, you all know
the same stuff. But to stand up on a stage
and generate humor out of thin.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Ear, Yeah, I'm certain regular folk on the building side
of funny than me, like one hundred percent, lock it away,
locked away the key, they're one hundred percent. But then yeah,
it's the it's the up in front of people. That's
when that's when it falls away.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah. No, this is tough because public speaking is one
of the biggest phobias in the world.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Oh, which is crazy to me. These guys seen a
shark kind of tea here, limb from limb.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, but that is you know, people, how many times
have you seen someone stand up at a wedding and
give a speech.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Just the father of the bride with a piece of
a full paper shaking like a late chat.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
GPT's written it for him. He's never read it.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, you know you're going to hit a couple of
And that's when it's totally fine to hit a couple
of jokes. That chat GPT did right for you. I
reckon if you're a father of the briding, it but
the a four bit of paper, it's got to go.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
The worst as a person that controls microphones for a
job is the people that speak with the microphone by
their belly.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, yeah, no mic control. That's that's one thing I
always school, no my control. These father of the brides,
they get up there. I will say this though, at
a wedding, nothing brings me more joy, Nothing makes me
happier than just seeing the.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Father of the bride really break down and tears. That's
it's the greatest. I like watching a speech that fucking crushes.
Every now and then someone someone does a real good one.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
They get the right, especially if it's a non And
I said this a lot of friends with comedians. I
got a lot of like comedy winnings, and you kind
of expected. It's a weird turn to phrase, but you know,
you kind of expect the speeches.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
You're like, you kind of just know they're going to
be good.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
But then during a comedy winning when someone who's non
comedy affiliated and a civilian, and every now and again
you'll see it and they will just crush to a
room full of comedians, which is that's tough. We're a
bad crowd. We're a bad comedy crowd. That's the truth.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
When you're like, you've done a good thing.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Your friends, and this is a good speech.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Honestly, we'll be seeking it afterwards as if it's a set.
Be like, man, there was a.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Great little yeah, a couple of little you try to
give them a few notes afterwards and saying this as well.
I also, as comedian, love watching someone bomb at winning.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
This is what I was going to say. I went
to one a while ago and this guy stood up unprovoked.
No one had asked them to talk, and he got
up and he told like a five minute joke that
bombed the entire way along, and the setup was so
off color that it got a couple of gasps from
like Auntie's and grandmother. Oh. The punchline was something like
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and then he you know, got his deck out of
you know, it was something so.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Just it's the classic mis understanding of a wedding being
like a twenty first I've seen the father of the
bride or the groom get up and tell like, you know,
war stories, and you're like, what occasion do you think
this is?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
This is celebration. Yeah, and they're kind of like, oh yo,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I think there's trying to be relatable or something, but
it's just a devastating story about how they were a
loser at high school.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I've had to do this. I mc to wedding and
we sat down the note before and we were looking
over my notes, me and my mate, and we both
sat there and we were like, we can't. You can't
say this. Like, his family's there, her family, some of
them might be meeting him for the first time, and
you're just standing up here flaming him about some shit
did eight years ago. Yeah, it's like that. Or they'll
bring up like past loves or something like this. What
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are we doing? We don't mention Alicia to take it easy. Now.
We all thought they were going to end up get
we don't mention it bombing. What is it like to
bomb up on stage? How do you get past that?
Because I think that's the number one reason people don't do.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
A hell of a time. I mean, you do it
more than you want to. But it's one of those things.
It's an interesting feeling once you recognize it's happening. It's
like you know when you're in a car crash and
it's not as bad obviously, but just to give it
some example, and things seem to slow down and you
get like a sense of clarity, like it'll be happening
around you and you have that voice and you here,
(21:29):
you're like, holy shit, I am absolutely bombing up here.
And yeah, you start looking around, things become clear. It's
like they're seen in the same in front of Ryan
with like the heartbeat, You're like, oh man, I'm eating shit.
This joke sucks, his crowd hates me. Whatever it is it's.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
And then how used to it?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
You do.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
It? A bit? How do you? Because I imagine you're driving
home from a gig sober, it'll be all you can
think about.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not great. It's I mean, you
don't want to be doing it too often. But it's
also just like comes to the territory. I mean, if
you're not bombing, you're not you're not really doing it.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I guess as well. You know that if it has
worked in the past and that can't just be you.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
It can work again. Maybe it's just the room. I know,
it's easy.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
There's also it's real easy to blame the room, and
it's very easy to blame everything else. And I sometimes
you're just going to go you know, I was a
bit ship.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I was worried or like.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Sometimes it will be like one exchange with someone in
the crowd where they will say something and then you'll
maybe coming too hard, you'll light them up, and then
everyone be like Jesus b or this guy so like
whatever it is, and you just turn them off. And
then I joke to work a million times in on
and sofferent and then that's when you've got to roll
the eyes back and just you just go through the motions.
(22:46):
Well yeah, I mean that's not not a bad option,
just to get it out and see if that Honestly,
to any comedian out there, anyone who's think about doing comedy,
if it's going badly, get your tock out.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I think that's great advice. I think it's great advice
for people in general.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I would love to see like an Oxtion here, like
the house isn't quite getting what they thought. They're like
sixty what about now they get their dick out him
and goes, oh, well nine hundred, yeah, yeah, I'm back
and I'm back.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
And then use that for the gavel, just like bom
bomb bomb.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I that's you know, Ray White. I don't get anyone
out there listens, was Barclays is that one?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
It's a bafoot and bafoot. There we go, J Hoker. Yeah,
thanks very much for joining us, Tony. Have a good weekend, mate,
no stress, and I'm looking forward to hearing from g
Lane on Monday morning. I want to hear this so
bad eight forty. Sit your alarms. Otherwise, have a good weekend.
We'll see on Monday. Right, Yeah up enough, you're right,
(23:44):
yeah up, up right
Get a it's Jeary here from the Heidechy Breakfast. Just
letting you know that if you're listening to the podcast
but didn't know that we also do a live radio show,
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Then we'll let you know. And now let's get on
with the podcast. I feel like we need to shorten
the edmund down on that as a long intro, has
a long long intro because beer in mind, everyone that's
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listening to this right now is also set for an
AD or two.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, they've been head up for some bitter health or
a bit of health. I should save some Blue Chree.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Music be it underneath though.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Nice, that's a beautiful song.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
That's a great song. Welcome to the podcast, Tonty.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Hey, thanks Hamy. It's nice to be here, Nice to
be on the pod. Nice to listen to some of
the ADM and in real life.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, yeah, we do it. We do it in real time.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah. A lot of other podcasts they'll put that on
afterwards so that the people here don't actually listen to it,
but not here. Not here, this good podcast. You guys,
get everyone to listen to it.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
We do it for real. Thanks for hanging out with
us this morning. Hey, it's nice. I let you. Had
nothing else to do.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I looked out and saw beautiful sunshiny day, and you know,
my kids are probably out there somewhere. But hey, you know,
I'll stick around and do some potting.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I've got a few questions. I think a lot of
people have questions around stand up comedy. Yes, I feel
like you must get asked these kinds of things all
the time. One of the first ones is how often
do people tell you when either when they find out
that you're a stand up comedian or they meet you
for the first time or something. How often do they go,
You've always wanted to try that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's pretty often a lot of people will say, yeah, yeah,
I was going to do it. A lot of people
just think they'll be good at it. They go, yeah,
you know, yeah, my mates they tell me I should
give it a try, And they're the ones you got
to watch out for. It's people who don't think they're
being any good at it in self life over thing.
The other people who will be good The big one
is tell us a joke. That's number one. That's the one.
Everyone says. It's not a funny thing to say. No,
(02:09):
anytime you say that's a comedian, they will, and I
say this on behalf of every comedian hate you so
much forever. There's no coming back from that. If you
tell a comedian tells a joke, you're done.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You did. I'll do a funny guy. Yeah, tell us
a joke. What do you do?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Make me laugh?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'm a plumber'm we'll come around and fix my toilet
for free.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, fix us, fix us. It's like meaning an athlete
dunk this basketball, then.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Dunk this, although I probably I probably would say that
to an athlete Towns dunk.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
That's Lebronn insights to me. Yeah, we're off the clock.
We don't have to do ship. What do you do?
When someone says, tell me joke?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I usually will say that. I'll be like, what do
you do? And whatever they say, I will add lib
a response. If you were say what do you do minight?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I'm a radio host, Hey give.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Us a clean voice, break into queens of the Stone age.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I'm not going to do it. Yeh see, it's no fun. No, well,
I'm I'm the same as you. I get. I get
people telling me sorry, I don't listen to your radio station,
completely unprovoked. I didn't ask, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I don't I run into this all the time where
I work a number of television shows, and so someone
will go, oh, you know, their friend might be a
fan of whatever seven Days or whatever it is, and
they'll say, oh, yeah, yeah, Skuy's on seven days. And
then if the person will be like, oh, I don't
watch TV, and then I'll be like, oh, okay, no.
Some of the people say I don't even have a
TV in my house, Like okay, what do you what
(03:32):
do you watch your content on? They're like, oh, you know,
I've got an iPad and you're yeah, you actually consume
more digital content than literally any other person you want.
You're on your phone for eight hours a day. Mate,
You're not better than me because you don't have a TV.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah. So I had this happened to me just over Christmas,
and this person was just like, I don't listen to
your radio station. I was like, oh hi, I'm Maniah.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Insane thing A convo lead off as I don't listen
to you Yeah, it's funny, and you no other job
gets it. The idea that people are very keen to
let you know that they're not engaged. I think it's
a variation of, you know, sort of a tall poppy vibe.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
It is. It's like, oh, this guy must think he's
the man. So trust me if you were inside my
head for five minutes.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, they're like, I just want to let you know that,
you know, mister big boots over here coming back to
why man, after you've been up in the big smoke,
you're not better than me.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah. And so this person I was like, well, I
did the same thing as you. Is like, what do
you do for jobs? She because I will get a
vit clinic.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I was.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I actually take my cat to the point ship vic clinic.
I actually put all my pits down myself. Yeah, it's like,
what what is that? Why is it that people just
have to Yeah. But the funniest one is Jerry. So
when he's out in the wild, because it's always older ladies, Yeah,
(04:49):
watch seven sharp and you can you can see them
loitering around.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
He would activate a rest home. Jeremy, why I was
wandering into a rhyme and it would be absolute. It'd
be a four you know, Fox and a Henhouse scenario.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah. There, I've seen it on international flights, like eight
hours into a seventeen hour flight. This lady is just
sort of hovering back and forth, and it's just like,
just ask him what Hillary's like, Just get it over with. Haha.
I've seen it in the clubrooms at a golf course. Yeah,
I mean that's big. Let's Yeah. This lady just came
over and just struck up a conversation and I was like,
(05:23):
you don't want to talk to me about what club
I'm a member, You're just here to ask Jerry.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, but I think a guy like Jerry, he's been
through it all before, he'd have this five moves to
get out of that conversation down. He knows to a quick,
quick acknowledgment do you want to photo? And then he
can carry on with a shop at Pakistan.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, Jerry's not going to pack.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
You just trying to make him seem like more of
a man of the people. But parough fresh Yeah, yeah,
of course you've got to go to farofresh.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The other thing I wanted to know about stand up comedy, Obviously,
the first question tell us a joke. I've always wanted
to do it. The other one is how easy enough
to get stage time and Zealand because I feel like
it's one of those things you need rips to get
good at it.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's a fully rip based activity. I mean, just by
its very nature. You never got to go on stage
with bankable material that you haven't tried out. It goes
through stages. There will be times where there's heaps of
opportunity to get stage time. But yeah, it's not like
New York's today where you can get up five times
a night, every night of the week. You've got to
be smart when it, use it well and do what
(06:24):
you can. And that's why any comedian in New Zealand
and I will say this, they've had to put in
work to get where they are. Yeah, and so they'll
all do well overseas because they've had to be committed.
They've had to work their little butts off to get
any good and then you go overseas and you're like, oh, sweet,
well we will hold our own and do really well.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, Because I was thinking that when I was in
the overseas. I ended up in Nashville and just the
amount of bars there and I got it. I was like,
it's live music all day. Yeah, so you could do
forty fifty hours a week on stage playing a gig. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And I mean even because you went to Austin, right, Yeah,
did you go to any set up company when you're there?
Didn't get a chance, because that's the fun recruit mothership
that's got it all there.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Right. We had one night where we could have done
it and we just didn't. Yeah, And I was that
is my one regret from that trip.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You got to recoup it. This is a tough thing
when you are on a holiday. If you're not there
for ages. You got to feel like you're doing stuff
every It was like omen and if you don't, you
feel like you're a failure.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
It was living like you got to recharge. Five nights
and three of them were at the festival, and by
that last night I was an absolute shall of a man.
So we're like, oh, let's all have a quiet one.
Then all of a sudden we find ourselves at this
line dancing bar till like three in them all line dancing.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
It's never struck a core deep within me to give
it a go.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You just haven't been in the right place I think so.
I think so have you.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But it's like if you have a bit of a
bit at a bar and everybody starts doing a summer,
I feel I feel bit activated by that when I
when I see the summer, the white man deep down
in my loins goes, you don't need to be here.
You've got to humilate yourself and your an sistors. You know,
I've got no rhythm.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
There's something about all dancing together. It's just it's quite funny,
you know, turn around on this guy next to his
stuff and just like you. But anyway, my point was
that I could see how if you're a musician, this
is the way to get good at it, because you can.
But in New Zealand, like you might get one, like
you know, Rudy, you might get maybe two gigs across
the weekend.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, I mean, if you were to just absolutely pound
the pavement and you could play solo and stuff like.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That, you could do three or four a week.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
But man, that gets punishing because are exhausting. Yeah, they're
real hard, and because they're all drunk.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, yes, often they're massive endebrand And I mean I'm
pretty sure I've been that person in the crowd for
you a few times there, Ruda, that's true.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
When you did you throw a shoe on a roof once.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I didn't throw a shoe. What happened was it was
after a Test match. I believe it had been a
large match, and I had a mery old time. I
had a great old time, and in the pub Ruda
was playing. We having a good old dance. I went
to leave, walked out onto the street and a brew
haha broke out behind us.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
This is Tony's version. This is the truth.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
This is the honest truth. And there was a full
mellie that we were not evolved in. And for some reason,
I think I was waiting for an uber and I
kicked my shoe into the mille, like just you know,
when you take the shoe off your ankle, and just
like I just flicked it in just to you know,
add a bit of splice to the rice, just seeing
I couldn't explain it. One of those moments that's a
(09:22):
screw of the moment. And the bouncer did not take
kindly to this at all. He was so mad, and
I didn't feel like I didn't escalate. I mean, there's
two men rolling on the ground didn't hurt anyone. I
think you just sort of landed in the middle.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Ye might have been.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And I went up to get it, to get the shoe,
and the bouncer was so mad and he threw it
on the roof of the establishment. Bouncer throw on the roof,
and then the manager of the pub came out and
apologized for the bounce's behavior, and the bouncer was explaining
on what had happened, and even the manager was like, yeah,
this guy's a decade referring to me, but you still
(09:58):
shouldn't have thrown the roof the shoe on the root,
and he had to apologize to me. And there's no
way you can't not you can go get the shoe
off the roof. I had to come back cap in
hand the following day and said, hey, listen, you got
that shoe down, did you? And as I walked in,
it was a perspects roof. I could see my shoe
fat tongue it me it was actually a Van's authentic black.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I could see it.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
As I walked in, I thought, they haven't got that down,
and I I sheepishly went in and it's that one
real return of the scene of the crime feel.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I don't like this feeling at all.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Leave my card, but I did have some mile high
ground because I know that they had apologized to me.
But at the end of it, it's a night real
in it when you when you're one shoe down, you
can't go to a different establishment you're dance.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So did you uber one shoe on, one shoe off?
Did you ever get the shoe back?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Never never got the shoe back. I mean, as far
as I know, it's it's still on the roof. I've
actually I went back like maybe six weeks later, because
I did, I did wonder if maybe I would be
you know, kindly asked not to come back to that wishman.
But also I need to point out I was not
in the ruckets. I was not the one causing and
causing mischief. And I went back about six weeks later,
(11:06):
sill on the roof and I was like, oh, my
shoe's up there. But I had to try to keep
it pretty casual that it wasn't my shoe.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
It's now just part of the lore of that place.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, it's gone out. I have checked recently.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
It's gone. Should we take a quick break and come
back with Rudor's side of the story.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
We can't start.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Now feeling hip hop. Try to stand up. We got
in lockdown. I'm ready to rock, pretty browag. How do
you remember that story going down? Ruder?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I remember playing at the bar. I remember Tony coming
in and you said had an absolute skinful and was
dancing with a group of.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
People that you knew. But I feel like.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
They weren't that keen on you hanging around. I think
that they may I think that they may have suggested
that you go home.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
That I didn't know this people. I don't know anyone.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I thought one of them name names was Brad. I
thought Brad was one of those people that you were
that you were arm in arm with and kind of
doing a bit of a polka, a bit of a
can can.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I mean, I probably was trying to get a line
down and started to be honest.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
And then I just all I really remember is looking
out the window to my right, which is my strumming arm,
and seeing the bounce of pushing pushing you, and you're like,
I want to get back. You were trying to get
back in No, this is what I remember, and I
was sober.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, this is true. It's hard to deny with. When
someone comes at a sober man will come in and say,
this is what happened. You have to go yeah, you
know what, I might have to deviate to your this
could have maybe this could make sense. Maybe I just
booted out. And then while I was out there, a
ruckus unfolded and I loved my shoe into the general
the general direction of the.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Ruckus, I mean, the rest of it generally adds up.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I can see the manager of that particular establishment coming
out and saying, use this guy's a dicken.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, quite clearly Dave would say.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That, But I will say this, he was. He was
totally chill. He was He was like, yeah, it's kind
of just you know, felt really yeah, yeah, it's going
to And also, I hold no no will to this bouncer.
I think that's an understandable thing to have some DoD
lobs a shilling to to a rackust.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
You got to throw the shoe. I get it. I
totally understand, and honestly I'm on your side.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Do you know it does suck about doing covers. Well,
one thing that sucks about doing covers gigs. I've had
to get better at dealing with drunk people. Yeah, yeah,
that like to distract you. They like to come and
look right in your eyes while you're trying to play
a song and concentrate on words and chords and things
like that, and then they try and shake your hand
(13:33):
and you're like, well, i'm playing the I'm playing the guitar,
and so sometimes I'll literally break and stop the song.
I'll be like, hang on, guys, sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I'll fuck fast needs his hands, just got.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
To shake old mate's hand.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, that I find because often I'm in a similar situation.
It's you're always the sober person or the sober rest,
and a situation where people are the most boozed back
to stand up comedy and you've got to get used
to because I be driving after the show and even
on there it's their night out and fair enough, and
I think I forget this often and I'll come off
(14:07):
stage and they'll be talking to someone in the bar
and I'll be like.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
This pessive is acting weird.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
They're erratic, they're loud there, and then I'm like, oh,
they're shit face. Yeah, And I'll be like this person
is really like nice but intense and like really close
talking to me and spitting like, Oh, they're absolutely thunderboost
like het it, but yeah, you forge, I forget. I
constantly forget that everyone around me a chef face.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I think there's another part of stand up comedy where
people I think it. I don't know if it's just
a New Zealand thing. I'm sure it's all around the world.
But I feel good enough at stand up it sounds
like you are just having an It sounds like you're
just coming up with this stuff on the spot, and
you work quite hard at it, I presume, to make
it sound like you've just thought of it. Now, yeah,
(14:51):
but you actually wrote this out, You've thought about it
a lot, You've performed in five hundred times everybody, and
then But to get it to a point to where
it sounds like I just walked it, you know what
I just thought of and to make someone laugh out
of that, and I think that that tricks dumber members
of the audience into thinking that they can do it too. Yes, like, oh,
you've just thought that. We'll have a I need to
(15:11):
tell you what I've just thought of. It's going to
be just as funny as like, don I fucking spent
a lot of time on this.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
The worst is when someone will come up and they
will tell you a a premise for a joke. No, no,
like you know, like a joke like you heard your
dad say in nineteen ninety one. And they'll come up
and be like, hey, what about this one. It'll be like,
you know, a dead baby joke or whatever, and you're like, oh, yeah,
that that sucks, dude, and you should be ashamed yourself, yeah,
for thinking about it, just because yeah, it's a different
(15:37):
it's a different thing thing, Like what about this one?
You're like, yeah, no, we I just can't tell a
joke that you you heard in.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
The playground, yeah, in nineteen ninety six. Its people are
paying to be here. I can't be telling someone else's jokes.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, And I think that's why comedians to get annoyed
when they hear someone on stage showing someone else's jokes.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
You're like, I had to think about this and work
on it for ages. It's real hard to do.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
To like come up with something. I have to sit
back and wait for things to happen to me and
then I can try to turn them into stories. But
that's it's hard to manufacture.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
The other one is the like you said, before the
guy who goes, oh, everyone tells me I should do
stand up. Everyone says, I'm really funny. And we talked
to with Joe Damon on the podcast a while ago
and he was saying that the funny part about that
is Kiwi's hate that energy. Hueys hate the funny guy
in the office energy, and so you get up on
(16:25):
stage and do that shit. It is like no one
wants to hear that.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
And I always think that the funny guy in the
office and the funny guy you know, your group of
mates is always funny people. I reckon they probably are
funnier than stand up comedians in general population when they're
just when you're out in the office and you're cracking up,
they probably are the funny ones around the place. But
it's so different when you've got to go on stage.
Like a lot of comedians, some of them are outrageous,
(16:48):
outgoing people, but a lot of them are pretty chill
just in regular life, and they're working at it and
they can bring it up and it's something that will
work in front of every crowd, and they've planned and
they can walk on ten, fifteen, twenty, half an hour,
whatever amount I can be funny for this amount of time,
and that's when the office clown can't compete. You got
no one to rough off, You've got no one to
(17:10):
zig and zag off. You've just got yourself and your
own big dumb ideas.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
That's part of it is. It's a very different thing
to like when you're sitting around with your mates and
you having a guess. But I think we talked to
someone else about this. But that's the funniest you'll ever
be because you've got a common reference point. You let
you guys all get the same references, you all know
the same stuff. But to stand up on a stage
and generate humor out of thin.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Ear, Yeah, I'm certain regular folk on the building side
of funny than me, like one hundred percent, lock it away,
locked away the key, they're one hundred percent. But then yeah,
it's the it's the up in front of people. That's
when that's when it falls away.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah. No, this is tough because public speaking is one
of the biggest phobias in the world.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Oh, which is crazy to me. These guys seen a
shark kind of tea here, limb from limb.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, but that is you know, people, how many times
have you seen someone stand up at a wedding and
give a speech.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Just the father of the bride with a piece of
a full paper shaking like a late chat.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
GPT's written it for him. He's never read it.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, you know you're going to hit a couple of
And that's when it's totally fine to hit a couple
of jokes. That chat GPT did right for you. I
reckon if you're a father of the briding, it but
the a four bit of paper, it's got to go.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
The worst as a person that controls microphones for a
job is the people that speak with the microphone by
their belly.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, yeah, no mic control. That's that's one thing I
always school, no my control. These father of the brides,
they get up there. I will say this though, at
a wedding, nothing brings me more joy, Nothing makes me
happier than just seeing the.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Father of the bride really break down and tears. That's
it's the greatest. I like watching a speech that fucking crushes.
Every now and then someone someone does a real good one.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
They get the right, especially if it's a non And
I said this a lot of friends with comedians. I
got a lot of like comedy winnings, and you kind
of expected. It's a weird turn to phrase, but you know,
you kind of expect the speeches.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
You're like, you kind of just know they're going to
be good.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
But then during a comedy winning when someone who's non
comedy affiliated and a civilian, and every now and again
you'll see it and they will just crush to a
room full of comedians, which is that's tough. We're a
bad crowd. We're a bad comedy crowd. That's the truth.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
When you're like, you've done a good thing.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Your friends, and this is a good speech.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Honestly, we'll be seeking it afterwards as if it's a set.
Be like, man, there was a.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Great little yeah, a couple of little you try to
give them a few notes afterwards and saying this as well.
I also, as comedian, love watching someone bomb at winning.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
This is what I was going to say. I went
to one a while ago and this guy stood up unprovoked.
No one had asked them to talk, and he got
up and he told like a five minute joke that
bombed the entire way along, and the setup was so
off color that it got a couple of gasps from
like Auntie's and grandmother. Oh. The punchline was something like
(20:10):
and then he you know, got his deck out of
you know, it was something so.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Just it's the classic mis understanding of a wedding being
like a twenty first I've seen the father of the
bride or the groom get up and tell like, you know,
war stories, and you're like, what occasion do you think
this is?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
This is celebration. Yeah, and they're kind of like, oh yo,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I think there's trying to be relatable or something, but
it's just a devastating story about how they were a
loser at high school.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I've had to do this. I mc to wedding and
we sat down the note before and we were looking
over my notes, me and my mate, and we both
sat there and we were like, we can't. You can't
say this. Like, his family's there, her family, some of
them might be meeting him for the first time, and
you're just standing up here flaming him about some shit
did eight years ago. Yeah, it's like that. Or they'll
bring up like past loves or something like this. What
(20:54):
are we doing? We don't mention Alicia to take it easy. Now.
We all thought they were going to end up get
we don't mention it bombing. What is it like to
bomb up on stage? How do you get past that?
Because I think that's the number one reason people don't do.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
A hell of a time. I mean, you do it
more than you want to. But it's one of those things.
It's an interesting feeling once you recognize it's happening. It's
like you know when you're in a car crash and
it's not as bad obviously, but just to give it
some example, and things seem to slow down and you
get like a sense of clarity, like it'll be happening
around you and you have that voice and you here,
(21:29):
you're like, holy shit, I am absolutely bombing up here.
And yeah, you start looking around, things become clear. It's
like they're seen in the same in front of Ryan
with like the heartbeat, You're like, oh man, I'm eating shit.
This joke sucks, his crowd hates me. Whatever it is it's.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
And then how used to it?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
You do.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
It? A bit? How do you? Because I imagine you're driving
home from a gig sober, it'll be all you can
think about.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not great. It's I mean, you
don't want to be doing it too often. But it's
also just like comes to the territory. I mean, if
you're not bombing, you're not you're not really doing it.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I guess as well. You know that if it has
worked in the past and that can't just be you.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
It can work again. Maybe it's just the room. I know,
it's easy.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
There's also it's real easy to blame the room, and
it's very easy to blame everything else. And I sometimes
you're just going to go you know, I was a
bit ship.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I was worried or like.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Sometimes it will be like one exchange with someone in
the crowd where they will say something and then you'll
maybe coming too hard, you'll light them up, and then
everyone be like Jesus b or this guy so like
whatever it is, and you just turn them off. And
then I joke to work a million times in on
and sofferent and then that's when you've got to roll
the eyes back and just you just go through the motions.
(22:46):
Well yeah, I mean that's not not a bad option,
just to get it out and see if that Honestly,
to any comedian out there, anyone who's think about doing comedy,
if it's going badly, get your tock out.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I think that's great advice. I think it's great advice
for people in general.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I would love to see like an Oxtion here, like
the house isn't quite getting what they thought. They're like
sixty what about now they get their dick out him
and goes, oh, well nine hundred, yeah, yeah, I'm back
and I'm back.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
And then use that for the gavel, just like bom
bomb bomb.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I that's you know, Ray White. I don't get anyone
out there listens, was Barclays is that one?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
It's a bafoot and bafoot. There we go, J Hoker. Yeah,
thanks very much for joining us, Tony. Have a good weekend, mate,
no stress, and I'm looking forward to hearing from g
Lane on Monday morning. I want to hear this so
bad eight forty. Sit your alarms. Otherwise, have a good weekend.
We'll see on Monday. Right, Yeah up enough, you're right,
(23:44):
yeah up, up right
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