November 12, 2025 • 22 mins
Today on the pod the guys go deep into mashups, Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Michael Hutchence, and Mikey Havoc.
What is the link between all these characters? And do they know we do a radio show as well?
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Wow, that's a fantastic mash up. What is that? That
sounds like.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
That's Creed and Kylie Minogue. That Kylie Minogue song. By
the way, if you tremendous party started, if you're looking
to change gears after dinner or something, you know the
party's dying a little bit, wake that bitch on it.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You wouldn't put like emotion on of all the Kylie songs.
I try not.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I mean, the point doesn't to put a Kylie Minogue song.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
What about spinning Around? There's a.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Spinning around a great song. I am a lesser a
Kylie fan. I gotta say I'm more of a Jason
Jason Donovan.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I don't even know who that is. I merely know
who Coli Mono is.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
All right, Jason Donovan was the was the person that
Kylie was married to on Neighbors all right? Oh yeah
Donovan Franklin wrote it.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah and Donovan. There's no Jason Donovan in the system song.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
It was like, seriously yours, especially for you, especially for seriously,
seriously seriously Moonlight. I love a good mash up that
I found this one the other day. This was the
the Bill Withers and Lizzo mash up Bye well love
good to be, have a listen to. This problem was grapefruit.
(01:44):
It was this Lizo and Bill.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Withers check lovely.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Check my name plane, it's Bill Withers.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Sound like, that's not Bill Withers.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
That's Bill with us lovely Day. Yeah, that's that's not
him singing though, No, no, no, but it's it's they've
done a mash up of the two songs they're covering.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It is that an Ai situation that on and then
she goes, no, this is real. She's singing. This is
a cover.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, this is a cover of two songs that they
put together.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Hey, those wet fish singers.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Like give it it's clever.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I don't. Oh no, I think that's clever. I just
don't like football.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I don't know. She's that's sexy stuff, you.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Dam There was nothing to do with sexism. For instance,
Celine Dion a wonderful singer. She's a woman.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
A lot of your closest friends and women are the
one especially.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Don't like you. Hey, is there a difference in water
displacement between saltwater and freshwater? That's a great question.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It came around three four oh three after we talked
to Scott Rice on the radio show. If you are
new to the podcast, you didn't know we actually do
a radio show. I've actually also just found out today
that there's a lot of people who just follow the
Instagram page but didn't know that we were doing a
radio show or a podcast or a podcast either or
it's crazy. It's crazy how siloed everyone is these I
(03:36):
suppose it's easy to understand. You know, some people are
just Instagram people. They don't want to do anything other
than just look at Instagram. This is a cool Instagram page.
I'll follow this.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Some people are just FM radio people. They just want
to listen to IFM.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Rady.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
They don't want to watch TV. Yep. They don't want
to go on social media. They don't want to go
on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
No, we're one of those families. You know, we're crowded
around the wireless every night here, kids come on, crowd
around the wireless.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Some people are just AM and I prefer to go
on a short wave radio.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
On the training. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I I used to work for an AM radio station
and one day one of our hosts was supposed to
be broadcasting from somewhere else, but the remote broadcast kept broke,
so they then had to call into the station as
if they were call and do the whole show that way.
Oh wow, And so it was a phone call which
already sounds tenny on the radio, then broadcast through AM radio.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Pump up the triple.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I would have thought there's a warm, sleepy sound to AM.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
There's not.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Really, it's always such a crackly tenny bastard of a
sound AM radio. This is why they don't put music
stations on AM, because music sounds like crap on AM.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I remember when I film first came around. That's how
old I am, really, Yeah, I remember the first FM station.
What does the film stand for? Frequentcy modulation? Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Someone was asking me the other day about frequencies and
how they work and why there are so many or
there aren't so many, or it is so weird, it
is weird. My understanding is very, very limited, despite the
fact that I work for a radio station. But what
I do know is that obviously they're just frequencies, so
they exist. It's not like you make them. The frequencies
(05:17):
that exist. The reason you have to buy them is
because they have to be separated by enough that they
don't all bleed into each other. You know, when you're
on the you're driving from timor at Ashburton and you're
on a casp and it cuts. But then you'll also
notice that as you drive around the country, ninety three
point two will be MOREFM in one place, and then
it'll be the edge and another and then it'll be
(05:39):
hodak in you know what I mean. Yes, And it's
because they have to be spread out equidistant, and so
in different regions they will have the same frequencies.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
It's a spectrum. It is a spectrum, and somewhere so
your dial can pack up the frequency coming at you, well,
the modulation come at you from a different frequency, yeah,
which is quite out of it. It's a magic thing.
So our words go into the ear you can't see it,
(06:10):
but then certain things can pack up that sound that's
going through that because it's actually a wave that's and
that's invisible as it's going through the air too and
to the eye.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And it's pretty much instantaneous. That's the other crazy thing
to me. Like if you go on iHeart, for instance,
it might be thirty seconds behind.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
But it travels at the speed of sound.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
What does it travel at the speed of light? Does
it travel at the speed of it?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Basically process is here.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It's not a sound. We're not transmitting it sound.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It's a wave. It's a wave.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
But I don't think it's a mechanical wave such like sounders,
otherwise you'd be able to hear it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I think everything's a wave, isn't it Like light's a wave?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Light depends on whether you're observing it or not. Can
behave both as a particle end as a wave. You've
never done the slit tests, Fellas, You've never done the
slit test tests.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
On a beam of light. A lot of testing of slits.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
But have you done it on a beam of light?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Jerry?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh yeah, Okay, have you done it in the dark.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I've done it in all sorts of states as well.
But you've got to do it in the dark, don't you.
Sometimes otherwise sometimes you do.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Sometimes you have to do it.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Sometimes it's way better too.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Oh, it just takes a little better, you know. But
also the act of observing it can change its behavior.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Can well, how the fund did we get here? What?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Sl light? If in frequency? You remember that if in frequency.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Should we take a break and bang our heads against
the wall and come back.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
You're not Jerry, you know this is Jason and Kylie. Yeah,
from nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
She's out of chemistry, didn't they? Much like Angel and
Shane from Home and Away?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
They were banging that's why?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Or were they banging because of the connection they had?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Oh now that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Bang that one through the slit test? Tell you who
attempted a slit test on Carley Man? And that's the
old Heavo.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well Hutchins did.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It was about the same time, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I wanted to find out if she behaved as a
particle or a wave self well forgetting what?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
He attempted a test of hisin I'm not sure what
the parameters were, but the test failed. Ah yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
A lot of the early physicists did fail that test,
and I consider Mikeie Evock to be an early physicist.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
He was. She was very flirtatious with them, though. I
got to say it just the timing just wasn't right.
I reckon if it was today, with with phones and
social media and and all that sort of stuff, the
old have I would have been away laughing.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Where and how did they meet? Do you know the
background of that story?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Absolutely? Nineteen ninety seven at a hotel room on Albert
Street in Auckland, and he was interviewing her in the
pool area actually of the Regent Hotel.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yes, please and excuse me.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
They got on like a house on fire. And he
said the thing he took away from that whole experience
with kym and Oger interviewing it was that how beautiful
she smelt. Really, he said, she just smelt and felt
like an angel. He was smitten, he was.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Do you know when abouts in nineteen ninety seven it was?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, I can actually I can tell you it was.
It was in the latter part of the year.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I'm going to say November, because Hutchins passed away in
November ninety seven. Coincidence.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Well, there was similar in a lot of ways, Hutchinson.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It was Hutchins, Michael Hutchins from an excess, the guy
that whispered to you on the radio show today.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh that day? Yeah, Ok.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
The toy, Yeah I thought it was a toy.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well, they used to think for a long time that
toys were summoning up old spirits from dead people. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well, fuck you would if you're just walking through the bush.
Then you heard your old mate who used to walk
through the bush down.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
What did he say? What did my Mutchins say? Come
over here, come over here? What the fuck? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Was he the guy who yep, yeah, hung himself Cornelled,
that's what they called it, studdy though Cornell Cornell Cornell
Cornell was the original Corner and then Hutchins did it
about twenty years earlier.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh wait, I'm thinking Chris Corner. Who are you talking about.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah, I'm talking Chris Cornell twenty years before.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
No, twenty years after.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So Hutchens ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Was it was the original. But but there's a big
conjecture around So Hutches was found dead by hanging in
his hotel room in Sydney. Yeah, and AUSSI yah a
lead saying of NXES big superstar, big superstar, big Australian
superstar actually globally and exists work were quite big.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
In the States to I've gotta be honest, I only
heard of an Exist when they were looking for a
new singer. Remember they did a reality TV show where.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
They got a new singer, j D Fortune.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
That was the first time I heard of them, and
now he's the assistant president of the States.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yep, that's the one. You've got it, good, good work.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And have advanced joy.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, of reptide and he was anyways founded, But his
partner at the time, poorly Yates, claims that it was
the auto apphixiation.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Auto erotic asphixiation, but auto meaning self erotic man in
jack and off assixiation.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
But I don't think that's ever necessarily improved. How would you, Yeah,
unless you're there. She's like, well, Michael wouldn't have done
that otherwise. But it's a how well do you ever
really know someone exactly?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
But if a romance firing up in babe elly at
the moment, a little bit of vape sharing, some awkward Oh,
there's some great.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
See that you're going to get it. She's got a cold.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Watch those these guys are in love.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Now. Would you describe that as yoppers?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I wouldn't say, not as a microphone, I wouldn't disproportionate. Look,
that's a that's a yopera of an early love. Look
at them, that's so they've got that giddy smile going on.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
He looks away to the left and then back to
her away to the left, back to her.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Her chin dimples when she smiles and laughs at the
seriously unfunny things he's saying out there?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Is it too grim to just to describe what police
founded with Michael Hutchins in the body? Ah?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Well, I only know if it clears things up.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
My only worry is the young couple out there might here.
They were referred to on the podcast, come back to
listen to it, and all they get is ruder describing
Michael Hutchins was found.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
So Michael Hutchins, Michael, So, who's Starsky?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
That's that's Startsky, Starsky and Hatch right.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Oh yeah, it's different and the other Jukes of hazard
other No, oh no, that's bar and loke.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So his body was discovered that Bowen, You're like, You're like,
you're like a computer when you've clicked on some porn
and it keeps opening up new windows that you do
not want anything to do with.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
His body was discovered by a hotel made at eleven
fifty am, yes, on the twenty second of November. That's
coming up Dad, nineteen ninety seven. Police reported that he
was found in a kneeling position facing the door.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, he had Oh, so facing the doors.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Facing the door, he had used a snake skin belt
to tie a knot on the automatic door closer at
the top of the door. Strainers head forward into the loops.
So had the buckle had broken? Okay, anything in the air.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
So it's like one of those guest struts like that. Yeah,
like the one we've got in our studio. And so
he's gone over there with the belt, put his neck
through there.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
And then so Yate's basically saying he wasn't killing himself,
but he might have done it because he was ironic asphyxiation.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Right, it's inconclusive obviously, unless he was Donald Ducking, that
would be pretty conclusive.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Because I think that would have been the big This
is what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
If he's Donald Ducking with the shirt on, no pants,
and then that.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I would I would members of the jury. So that's
pretty conclusive.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
No prescription drugs. When was this nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Ah, pre intident. Yeah, so he's having a he's going
into the bank.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, well fuck, you.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Would have had a Jez would have had a bank
and a half that guy.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Or maybe a magazine. Maybe there were good days when
you used to after you used to the bank. It's
good for you. Yes, yeah, I think so, it's good
for you.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You occasionally use the bank still, Oh.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, yeah, Honde, I'm a big bank man. He's the banker.
I'm the bank man. I'm the bank manager, the branch manager, certainly,
the branch manager of my branch.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
A lot of banks around the country have clothed nowadays.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
But customers turning over my bank, that's for sure. I'd
like to make a deposit because everyone's just throwing it
on the internet. Now that's my bank, certainly.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So that's way under the end of the safety deposit
box and it's just a wall of boxes. Okay, yeah,
and we're going to go nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
But it kills someone to turn up and try and
rob me. It kills someone a little smash and grab
action rob you. So we don't know if he was
ned or not. That was the that was the question.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
The last question doesn't say It doesn't say that.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And so he was checked up with Kylie Minogue at
the time. Was he was he having an affair with Kylie?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
No, I don't think that was.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
It was with Palliates.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Now she was the heiress to the fertilizer company, is
there right seeds?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
She was a heroin addict who then later on died
of a heroin overdose and tragically her and Bob Geldo.
She went out with Bob Geldof Hutchins Bob, Yes, and
here in the studio yod Man, Well he Bob. They
(16:50):
had a child.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I believe Tiger Lily.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Tiger Lily and Tiger Lily also died of a heroin overdose.
Too many heroin overdoses going on on that Yeah, set up.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Bob Goetoff made fun of me multiple times.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
My feelings. What did Bob?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
He didn't like the R two d to plunge a
filter coffee situation. I thought that was naf He didn't
like the fact that you and I this is a
cultural thing from the UK. He didn't like the fact
that you and I grown men were wearing shorts and
had our toes out.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Calm down.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
He thought that was very uncouth. That's right, it's an
American thing too. I think where they wear pants, you'll
see an American dude wearing a singlet, pants and boots.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Are you hotter or you cold? Brother? Which is it?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Whereas here we're like be lucky to catch.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Me in shoes in summer like Jandles. Even it's tricky
in New Zealand because you better to wear something warm
up top and you've got to wear something cool down below.
And oftentimes in New Zealand we're doing things. Yeah, if
you're walking somewhere, you don't want to wearing a pair
of jeans, just weigh you down.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
If I see someone, then this is something we're going
to talk about on the radio today. But if you
don't know, we do a radio show six or nine
weekdays on Radio Hodach. You can tax north or south
two three four three to find your frequency.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Do we?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yes? See, I didn't know we did a radio show.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
All of that talking you did this morning was recorded
and broadcast, is it via the magic of if M radio?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Did you not pick that up in that meeting we
had used to a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Of people don't know. In fact, Jory is just finding
out now. I don't feel like I'm contracted to do that.
I must go back and have a look at my contract.
Yeah you must.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
But I was going to talk about people being fully
clothed either at the pool or at the beach. Yeah,
because I it's a funny inversion where if you were
anywhere else and someone walked down in their undies obviously
undy his togs, you'd be like, what are you doing,
you pervert? But when you're at the beach and someone's there.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Fully clothed, what are you doing, you're perfoct What are
you doing?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You pervert?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I feel because I went to the beach on the
weekend and there was it was one of those beaches
where there's sort of like a park right at the
beach if you like, a grass area, yep, And there
were two dudes, young dudes, early twenties, just sitting there
fully clothed the entire time we were there, just looking
out at the beach.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
It's like, you guys are creeps.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, shoes, jeans shot Yeah. Well they weren't really on
the beach there on the grass area. But just the
other thing is when we were in the overseas, we
were we went from swimming the missus in the pool
and there's a thing where Americans will go and sit
around a pool fully clothed, knock it in the pool
(19:34):
and then just leave again. Later I saw it at
a couple of different places.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
How hot was it? Well, I just proposed. So it
was getting pretty hot, but.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
No, it was it was not hot enough that an
American would swim. It was hot enough that the kip
we would swim, because we were swimming just about anything.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Eighteen.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, So it was like it was to the point
where when they saw us in the pool, they're like,
oh shit, check these guys out, these hearty soul Yeah yeah,
but it wasn't like we were cracking ice off the pool.
But anyway, yeah, fully closed people at the beach. I'm out,
shoes on the beach stresses me to bats. I don't
know if that's the spectrum we're talking about before, But
(20:14):
what if I see someone in shows sanchos and what
else do they?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
What are sanchoes sanchoz boat shoes.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Sancho's different. Yeah, Sancho's are like your what's a classic
pair of Oh, I know, a pair of Commando ims Sancho's.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I feel like you're speaking a different language now. Really,
I don't know Commando. I don't know Commando.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Okay, oh right, okay, you don't know Commando ims. Canvas? Yeah,
like a canvas, that's a that's a Sancho canvas. Canvas
fun that don't wear that to the beach. I thought
when you said, sancho's your eyes picturing like beach feet.
You know, there's little you know if you go reef shoes,
reef shoes, see exactly, Oh my god, if you're an adult.
(21:04):
But I tell that you wear reef shoes at the beach,
reef shoes and a red look because I know that
you've got a rash.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
No I have, though I have. I bought some four
now arata because I was worried about walking in the
coral and cutting my foot up and getting a disease
and then needing treatment in Raratonga, which would have been
fucking quite difficult. So yeah, I do have reef shoes
for such an occasion, not in New Zealand. But when
(21:31):
you go diving, I ain't no pussy.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Well you wear reef shoes, so you are a pussy.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I'm an international pussy.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
You wear reef shoes and a rash shirt and you
put and you've got a hat with a flap on
the back of it and zinc zinc, and sometimes you
wear a hat like one of those floppy hats with
the thing going on the back and it's got a
string that goes underneath the gases and zink around your lips.
(21:58):
Is all good alerts.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And you've got board shorts. They're like rockkil board shorts.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
When I used to have glasses, obviously had the clip
on that would fold down. Those were cool and.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Then you'd flap those up. Oh yeah, that's there's a
there's a lot of some intelligence going on too much.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
If you ask me, well, I'm very I feel like
I'm a very white man. You're not, I am.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Aren't you related to Cliff Curtis, Well, I am, but
you're also related to Phil Collins.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Well, but that's not a blood relation. That's only by marriage.
About five five steps away.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I think you need some I reckon, you need some
U v B. All right, should knock that? We should?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
We're still chip?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Are we still doing a radio sh
Wow, that's a fantastic mash up. What is that? That
sounds like.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
That's Creed and Kylie Minogue. That Kylie Minogue song. By
the way, if you tremendous party started, if you're looking
to change gears after dinner or something, you know the
party's dying a little bit, wake that bitch on it.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You wouldn't put like emotion on of all the Kylie songs.
I try not.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I mean, the point doesn't to put a Kylie Minogue song.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
What about spinning Around? There's a.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Spinning around a great song. I am a lesser a
Kylie fan. I gotta say I'm more of a Jason
Jason Donovan.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I don't even know who that is. I merely know
who Coli Mono is.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
All right, Jason Donovan was the was the person that
Kylie was married to on Neighbors all right? Oh yeah
Donovan Franklin wrote it.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah and Donovan. There's no Jason Donovan in the system song.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
It was like, seriously yours, especially for you, especially for seriously,
seriously seriously Moonlight. I love a good mash up that
I found this one the other day. This was the
the Bill Withers and Lizzo mash up Bye well love
good to be, have a listen to. This problem was grapefruit.
(01:44):
It was this Lizo and Bill.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Withers check lovely.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Check my name plane, it's Bill Withers.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Sound like, that's not Bill Withers.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
That's Bill with us lovely Day. Yeah, that's that's not
him singing though, No, no, no, but it's it's they've
done a mash up of the two songs they're covering.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It is that an Ai situation that on and then
she goes, no, this is real. She's singing. This is
a cover.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, this is a cover of two songs that they
put together.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Hey, those wet fish singers.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Like give it it's clever.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I don't. Oh no, I think that's clever. I just
don't like football.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I don't know. She's that's sexy stuff, you.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Dam There was nothing to do with sexism. For instance,
Celine Dion a wonderful singer. She's a woman.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
A lot of your closest friends and women are the
one especially.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Don't like you. Hey, is there a difference in water
displacement between saltwater and freshwater? That's a great question.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It came around three four oh three after we talked
to Scott Rice on the radio show. If you are
new to the podcast, you didn't know we actually do
a radio show. I've actually also just found out today
that there's a lot of people who just follow the
Instagram page but didn't know that we were doing a
radio show or a podcast or a podcast either or
it's crazy. It's crazy how siloed everyone is these I
(03:36):
suppose it's easy to understand. You know, some people are
just Instagram people. They don't want to do anything other
than just look at Instagram. This is a cool Instagram page.
I'll follow this.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Some people are just FM radio people. They just want
to listen to IFM.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Rady.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
They don't want to watch TV. Yep. They don't want
to go on social media. They don't want to go
on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
No, we're one of those families. You know, we're crowded
around the wireless every night here, kids come on, crowd
around the wireless.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Some people are just AM and I prefer to go
on a short wave radio.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
On the training. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I I used to work for an AM radio station
and one day one of our hosts was supposed to
be broadcasting from somewhere else, but the remote broadcast kept broke,
so they then had to call into the station as
if they were call and do the whole show that way.
Oh wow, And so it was a phone call which
already sounds tenny on the radio, then broadcast through AM radio.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Pump up the triple.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I would have thought there's a warm, sleepy sound to AM.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
There's not.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Really, it's always such a crackly tenny bastard of a
sound AM radio. This is why they don't put music
stations on AM, because music sounds like crap on AM.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I remember when I film first came around. That's how
old I am, really, Yeah, I remember the first FM station.
What does the film stand for? Frequentcy modulation? Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Someone was asking me the other day about frequencies and
how they work and why there are so many or
there aren't so many, or it is so weird, it
is weird. My understanding is very, very limited, despite the
fact that I work for a radio station. But what
I do know is that obviously they're just frequencies, so
they exist. It's not like you make them. The frequencies
(05:17):
that exist. The reason you have to buy them is
because they have to be separated by enough that they
don't all bleed into each other. You know, when you're
on the you're driving from timor at Ashburton and you're
on a casp and it cuts. But then you'll also
notice that as you drive around the country, ninety three
point two will be MOREFM in one place, and then
it'll be the edge and another and then it'll be
(05:39):
hodak in you know what I mean. Yes, And it's
because they have to be spread out equidistant, and so
in different regions they will have the same frequencies.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
It's a spectrum. It is a spectrum, and somewhere so
your dial can pack up the frequency coming at you, well,
the modulation come at you from a different frequency, yeah,
which is quite out of it. It's a magic thing.
So our words go into the ear you can't see it,
(06:10):
but then certain things can pack up that sound that's
going through that because it's actually a wave that's and
that's invisible as it's going through the air too and
to the eye.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And it's pretty much instantaneous. That's the other crazy thing
to me. Like if you go on iHeart, for instance,
it might be thirty seconds behind.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
But it travels at the speed of sound.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
What does it travel at the speed of light? Does
it travel at the speed of it?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Basically process is here.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It's not a sound. We're not transmitting it sound.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It's a wave. It's a wave.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
But I don't think it's a mechanical wave such like sounders,
otherwise you'd be able to hear it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I think everything's a wave, isn't it Like light's a wave?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Light depends on whether you're observing it or not. Can
behave both as a particle end as a wave. You've
never done the slit tests, Fellas, You've never done the
slit test tests.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
On a beam of light. A lot of testing of slits.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
But have you done it on a beam of light?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Jerry?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh yeah, Okay, have you done it in the dark.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I've done it in all sorts of states as well.
But you've got to do it in the dark, don't you.
Sometimes otherwise sometimes you do.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Sometimes you have to do it.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Sometimes it's way better too.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Oh, it just takes a little better, you know. But
also the act of observing it can change its behavior.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Can well, how the fund did we get here? What?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Sl light? If in frequency? You remember that if in frequency.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Should we take a break and bang our heads against
the wall and come back.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
You're not Jerry, you know this is Jason and Kylie. Yeah,
from nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
She's out of chemistry, didn't they? Much like Angel and
Shane from Home and Away?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
They were banging that's why?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Or were they banging because of the connection they had?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Oh now that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Bang that one through the slit test? Tell you who
attempted a slit test on Carley Man? And that's the
old Heavo.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well Hutchins did.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It was about the same time, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I wanted to find out if she behaved as a
particle or a wave self well forgetting what?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
He attempted a test of hisin I'm not sure what
the parameters were, but the test failed. Ah yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
A lot of the early physicists did fail that test,
and I consider Mikeie Evock to be an early physicist.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
He was. She was very flirtatious with them, though. I
got to say it just the timing just wasn't right.
I reckon if it was today, with with phones and
social media and and all that sort of stuff, the
old have I would have been away laughing.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Where and how did they meet? Do you know the
background of that story?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Absolutely? Nineteen ninety seven at a hotel room on Albert
Street in Auckland, and he was interviewing her in the
pool area actually of the Regent Hotel.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yes, please and excuse me.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
They got on like a house on fire. And he
said the thing he took away from that whole experience
with kym and Oger interviewing it was that how beautiful
she smelt. Really, he said, she just smelt and felt
like an angel. He was smitten, he was.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Do you know when abouts in nineteen ninety seven it was?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, I can actually I can tell you it was.
It was in the latter part of the year.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I'm going to say November, because Hutchins passed away in
November ninety seven. Coincidence.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Well, there was similar in a lot of ways, Hutchinson.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It was Hutchins, Michael Hutchins from an excess, the guy
that whispered to you on the radio show today.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh that day? Yeah, Ok.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
The toy, Yeah I thought it was a toy.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well, they used to think for a long time that
toys were summoning up old spirits from dead people. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well, fuck you would if you're just walking through the bush.
Then you heard your old mate who used to walk
through the bush down.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
What did he say? What did my Mutchins say? Come
over here, come over here? What the fuck? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Was he the guy who yep, yeah, hung himself Cornelled,
that's what they called it, studdy though Cornell Cornell Cornell
Cornell was the original Corner and then Hutchins did it
about twenty years earlier.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh wait, I'm thinking Chris Corner. Who are you talking about.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah, I'm talking Chris Cornell twenty years before.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
No, twenty years after.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So Hutchens ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Was it was the original. But but there's a big
conjecture around So Hutches was found dead by hanging in
his hotel room in Sydney. Yeah, and AUSSI yah a
lead saying of NXES big superstar, big superstar, big Australian
superstar actually globally and exists work were quite big.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
In the States to I've gotta be honest, I only
heard of an Exist when they were looking for a
new singer. Remember they did a reality TV show where.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
They got a new singer, j D Fortune.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
That was the first time I heard of them, and
now he's the assistant president of the States.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yep, that's the one. You've got it, good, good work.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And have advanced joy.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, of reptide and he was anyways founded, But his
partner at the time, poorly Yates, claims that it was
the auto apphixiation.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Auto erotic asphixiation, but auto meaning self erotic man in
jack and off assixiation.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
But I don't think that's ever necessarily improved. How would you, Yeah,
unless you're there. She's like, well, Michael wouldn't have done
that otherwise. But it's a how well do you ever
really know someone exactly?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
But if a romance firing up in babe elly at
the moment, a little bit of vape sharing, some awkward Oh,
there's some great.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
See that you're going to get it. She's got a cold.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Watch those these guys are in love.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Now. Would you describe that as yoppers?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I wouldn't say, not as a microphone, I wouldn't disproportionate. Look,
that's a that's a yopera of an early love. Look
at them, that's so they've got that giddy smile going on.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
He looks away to the left and then back to
her away to the left, back to her.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Her chin dimples when she smiles and laughs at the
seriously unfunny things he's saying out there?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Is it too grim to just to describe what police
founded with Michael Hutchins in the body? Ah?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Well, I only know if it clears things up.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
My only worry is the young couple out there might here.
They were referred to on the podcast, come back to
listen to it, and all they get is ruder describing
Michael Hutchins was found.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
So Michael Hutchins, Michael, So, who's Starsky?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
That's that's Startsky, Starsky and Hatch right.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Oh yeah, it's different and the other Jukes of hazard
other No, oh no, that's bar and loke.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So his body was discovered that Bowen, You're like, You're like,
you're like a computer when you've clicked on some porn
and it keeps opening up new windows that you do
not want anything to do with.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
His body was discovered by a hotel made at eleven
fifty am, yes, on the twenty second of November. That's
coming up Dad, nineteen ninety seven. Police reported that he
was found in a kneeling position facing the door.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, he had Oh, so facing the doors.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Facing the door, he had used a snake skin belt
to tie a knot on the automatic door closer at
the top of the door. Strainers head forward into the loops.
So had the buckle had broken? Okay, anything in the air.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
So it's like one of those guest struts like that. Yeah,
like the one we've got in our studio. And so
he's gone over there with the belt, put his neck
through there.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
And then so Yate's basically saying he wasn't killing himself,
but he might have done it because he was ironic asphyxiation.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Right, it's inconclusive obviously, unless he was Donald Ducking, that
would be pretty conclusive.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Because I think that would have been the big This
is what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
If he's Donald Ducking with the shirt on, no pants,
and then that.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I would I would members of the jury. So that's
pretty conclusive.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
No prescription drugs. When was this nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Ah, pre intident. Yeah, so he's having a he's going
into the bank.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, well fuck, you.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Would have had a Jez would have had a bank
and a half that guy.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Or maybe a magazine. Maybe there were good days when
you used to after you used to the bank. It's
good for you. Yes, yeah, I think so, it's good
for you.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You occasionally use the bank still, Oh.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, yeah, Honde, I'm a big bank man. He's the banker.
I'm the bank man. I'm the bank manager, the branch manager, certainly,
the branch manager of my branch.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
A lot of banks around the country have clothed nowadays.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
But customers turning over my bank, that's for sure. I'd
like to make a deposit because everyone's just throwing it
on the internet. Now that's my bank, certainly.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So that's way under the end of the safety deposit
box and it's just a wall of boxes. Okay, yeah,
and we're going to go nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
But it kills someone to turn up and try and
rob me. It kills someone a little smash and grab
action rob you. So we don't know if he was
ned or not. That was the that was the question.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
The last question doesn't say It doesn't say that.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And so he was checked up with Kylie Minogue at
the time. Was he was he having an affair with Kylie?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
No, I don't think that was.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
It was with Palliates.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Now she was the heiress to the fertilizer company, is
there right seeds?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
She was a heroin addict who then later on died
of a heroin overdose and tragically her and Bob Geldo.
She went out with Bob Geldof Hutchins Bob, Yes, and
here in the studio yod Man, Well he Bob. They
(16:50):
had a child.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I believe Tiger Lily.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Tiger Lily and Tiger Lily also died of a heroin overdose.
Too many heroin overdoses going on on that Yeah, set up.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Bob Goetoff made fun of me multiple times.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
My feelings. What did Bob?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
He didn't like the R two d to plunge a
filter coffee situation. I thought that was naf He didn't
like the fact that you and I this is a
cultural thing from the UK. He didn't like the fact
that you and I grown men were wearing shorts and
had our toes out.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Calm down.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
He thought that was very uncouth. That's right, it's an
American thing too. I think where they wear pants, you'll
see an American dude wearing a singlet, pants and boots.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Are you hotter or you cold? Brother? Which is it?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Whereas here we're like be lucky to catch.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Me in shoes in summer like Jandles. Even it's tricky
in New Zealand because you better to wear something warm
up top and you've got to wear something cool down below.
And oftentimes in New Zealand we're doing things. Yeah, if
you're walking somewhere, you don't want to wearing a pair
of jeans, just weigh you down.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
If I see someone, then this is something we're going
to talk about on the radio today. But if you
don't know, we do a radio show six or nine
weekdays on Radio Hodach. You can tax north or south
two three four three to find your frequency.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Do we?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yes? See, I didn't know we did a radio show.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
All of that talking you did this morning was recorded
and broadcast, is it via the magic of if M radio?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Did you not pick that up in that meeting we
had used to a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Of people don't know. In fact, Jory is just finding
out now. I don't feel like I'm contracted to do that.
I must go back and have a look at my contract.
Yeah you must.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
But I was going to talk about people being fully
clothed either at the pool or at the beach. Yeah,
because I it's a funny inversion where if you were
anywhere else and someone walked down in their undies obviously
undy his togs, you'd be like, what are you doing,
you pervert? But when you're at the beach and someone's there.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Fully clothed, what are you doing, you're perfoct What are
you doing?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You pervert?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I feel because I went to the beach on the
weekend and there was it was one of those beaches
where there's sort of like a park right at the
beach if you like, a grass area, yep, And there
were two dudes, young dudes, early twenties, just sitting there
fully clothed the entire time we were there, just looking
out at the beach.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
It's like, you guys are creeps.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, shoes, jeans shot Yeah. Well they weren't really on
the beach there on the grass area. But just the
other thing is when we were in the overseas, we
were we went from swimming the missus in the pool
and there's a thing where Americans will go and sit
around a pool fully clothed, knock it in the pool
(19:34):
and then just leave again. Later I saw it at
a couple of different places.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
How hot was it? Well, I just proposed. So it
was getting pretty hot, but.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
No, it was it was not hot enough that an
American would swim. It was hot enough that the kip
we would swim, because we were swimming just about anything.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Eighteen.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, So it was like it was to the point
where when they saw us in the pool, they're like,
oh shit, check these guys out, these hearty soul Yeah yeah,
but it wasn't like we were cracking ice off the pool.
But anyway, yeah, fully closed people at the beach. I'm out,
shoes on the beach stresses me to bats. I don't
know if that's the spectrum we're talking about before, But
(20:14):
what if I see someone in shows sanchos and what
else do they?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
What are sanchoes sanchoz boat shoes.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Sancho's different. Yeah, Sancho's are like your what's a classic
pair of Oh, I know, a pair of Commando ims Sancho's.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I feel like you're speaking a different language now. Really,
I don't know Commando. I don't know Commando.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Okay, oh right, okay, you don't know Commando ims. Canvas? Yeah,
like a canvas, that's a that's a Sancho canvas. Canvas
fun that don't wear that to the beach. I thought
when you said, sancho's your eyes picturing like beach feet.
You know, there's little you know if you go reef shoes,
reef shoes, see exactly, Oh my god, if you're an adult.
(21:04):
But I tell that you wear reef shoes at the beach,
reef shoes and a red look because I know that
you've got a rash.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
No I have, though I have. I bought some four
now arata because I was worried about walking in the
coral and cutting my foot up and getting a disease
and then needing treatment in Raratonga, which would have been
fucking quite difficult. So yeah, I do have reef shoes
for such an occasion, not in New Zealand. But when
(21:31):
you go diving, I ain't no pussy.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Well you wear reef shoes, so you are a pussy.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I'm an international pussy.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
You wear reef shoes and a rash shirt and you
put and you've got a hat with a flap on
the back of it and zinc zinc, and sometimes you
wear a hat like one of those floppy hats with
the thing going on the back and it's got a
string that goes underneath the gases and zink around your lips.
(21:58):
Is all good alerts.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And you've got board shorts. They're like rockkil board shorts.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
When I used to have glasses, obviously had the clip
on that would fold down. Those were cool and.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Then you'd flap those up. Oh yeah, that's there's a
there's a lot of some intelligence going on too much.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
If you ask me, well, I'm very I feel like
I'm a very white man. You're not, I am.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Aren't you related to Cliff Curtis, Well, I am, but
you're also related to Phil Collins.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Well, but that's not a blood relation. That's only by marriage.
About five five steps away.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I think you need some I reckon, you need some
U v B. All right, should knock that? We should?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
We're still chip?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Are we still doing a radio sh
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