April 14, 2026 • 29 mins
Today on the pod the guys talk abuot something HUGE that's happening on Friday, and a potential name change for the podcast.
Plus we catch up with Ruban Nielson from the Mint Chicks - His band are about to collect a very special award!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Daily bespoke content that you won't find on the radio
show The hurt I Keep Breakfast Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome along to our podcast. Ruby Wilson from the mit
Checks joins us in just a few moments.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Yeah, that's right, and before we talk to Nils Ruben Nilson, though,
we put a post in the conclave about a new
potential new name. We'll get to that, a new name
for the podcast, but just quickly. It's not often that
there's a subject coming up on the podcast that's so
good that it's worth teasing two days ahead of time.
(00:30):
But I do want to alert the long suffering listeners
to this podcast to something that's going to be happening
this Friday. Yeah, and that's the first ever fake deck Fridays,
and I think deack Fridays. Well, we'll just do one
and see how it goes. But basically, yes, Monday, Actually
(00:52):
I received a message that reminded me of a story
that I became aware of a few years ago. And
I didn't want to ruin this, sorry, because I want
your honest reactions to it. But I told you guys
that it involved a fake deck and asked whether I
had your attention or not, and I sure did. Yeah,
well you generally do.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
It's just not often you hear those words not only
broadcast but also on podcast Fake deck.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
No I know. And then so then I said, well,
should we talk about it tomorrow on the podcast? This
was on Monday, and yesterday we never got to it
because we talked to the people at Dirt Lead guys,
and we wasted time talking about something else as well.
And then today, because of course Reuben's coming in, he
doesn't need to be associated with fake deck Friday, and
so then why do you ask him? Give him the option?
And then we we said, oh, should we do it tomorrow?
(01:38):
Tomorrow is pretty busy too, We'll just do it on Friday.
And that's when we're like, oh yeah, fake deck Friday.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
So we've got to sit on the fake deck till Friday.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Sit on the fake deck till Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's quite as the deepest tease I've ever experienced in
my thirty odd years are broadcasting.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
We're just going to throw this crayfish pot in the
water and say if some first don't crawl into it,
you know what I mean, And then we'll pull it
up on Friday and see we've got and it might
be nothing. Probably can I've watched Look, I've watched enough
dead List catch to note the bearing seas are fickle mistress.
And we don't know what's going to be in that pot,
(02:13):
you know what I mean. It could be full of
beard ie crab, could be full of Alaskan king crab,
could be full of fake Diggs. It could be full
of nothing. Who knows. I'm excited. You know, I ever
pulled up a cray pot. I've never pulled up a
crap I have never I never have I ever eaten
I've eaten some crayfish. Imagine that, you know, when you're
sitting around on the person. Never have I ever watched
(02:35):
while two other people and then okay, now it's your
Never have I ever pulled up a crayfish pot with
a cray on? It certainly with a crayon.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I've pulled up a cray pot with no cray that
cray I've done a couple of batshit craves in my time, but.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I've never I've never pulled up one.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I'm just imagined that when you do pull up that
crab pote and that's got a cray and it must
feel really good.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Ah well, I'll ask mysss when I get home, because
she's done it. Here's she Yeah, she pulled up a
crape pot. She would the hens doing that young crayfish?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Hold on, that's hot fucking what.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Partner went on a hens do? And they went crayfishing?
What the is that? You guys not go crayfishing on?
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Where?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Where was the hens do? What? That's where the craveish?
Can we get her on? And can she run us
through the itinery of the colder cray fishing wave fish?
Hens do? Would you if you needed to pull up
(03:41):
some crayfish on? Would you want to go cray fishing
on her? Hens to?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I think that's the first and only time that has
ever happened in the history of the universe.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
She got at least one, and she she brought it
back and then we were standing at appearance and I
boiled this crayfish it all?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Do?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
He says, there when you but no, it wasn't. Sorry,
I stunk the whole house out of room one of
the parts of this cravey because she then had to
drive to Marsa worth it. So you boil that boil
that boil that thing within an inch of its life
scream and then slather it in butter. I couldn't find
(04:24):
any gallic good Butter will do it. You get get
out off the back of it. Get get off the
back of that thing. Man a Christmas gat. It is good,
isn't it? The old cry goodness? So anyway Friday fact Fridays. Yeah,
when you look, it's just anything interesting is to form
of what now? Presenter? Not funny? Far for it? No not,
(04:47):
I don't care. Chavorn No, no, it's not that luck
as it.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Okay, I beat you can't keep going.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I beat you, okay, Jason Gunn no thingy. I I
know who it is. I've got it. I guess I've
got it. No, I am going to guess. Props Boy
prop Yes, it's props Boy, Yes, I know props with
propping A bit of boy. Where the hell did he
get We should get him on the podcast? With the
hell did the idea for Props Boy come from? And
(05:16):
I think he was just working on the show. And
then he had that hat. I remember those hat. He
had the hat first.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I'm pretty sure Props boys on my cricket team bowl
good good pace. Actually he's a good bowler at the
had No, nobody knew it was Props boy bowling for them.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
But he bowls a good line and length.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Man, is it always about quite hard?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
This is This is the scary thing about playing social
cricket in New Zealand. You never know Props boys bowl
again boys useful, He's also aggressive.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Would have been an annoying sledge like if they did
know it was Props boy. Everything he did, go on,
Props Boy, on your props Props boys, good lines the pros.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Do you know what? Do we even have time to
go over the We're looking for a new name for
the podcast. There's a post in the conclave. Have time
to go through this? Or should we hold it off?
We can't talk about it on Friday. We got time.
We got time. We've been talking about potentially renaming the podcast.
At one point it was unofficially dubbed The Casserole, and
before I joined the show, it was the Bespokey Daily
(06:15):
Bespoke dailypo Spoke. The case Role is a whole lot
of things boiling away in a pot. Yeah, which was
a great summary of what it was, but it wasn't
a strong statement of what the podcast was, and now
we don't have it even when we said in meetings,
(06:35):
how many times we're about to do it after this?
How many times have we sat there and gone so
so on the podcast and hold on? Do you mean
the the show highlight? Is it the one that? Is
it the radio show podcast or the podcast podcast? For
for a podcast that doesn't have a name and has
moved its name so many times, it's it's quite successful. Yeah,
you know, I don't want to blow our trumpet there,
(06:58):
but it's unusually successful. It's the only podcast that doesn't
have a name that is head well sorry, that's had
different names, like a barn cat, it still manages to
be in the top ten, like remarkable and rural communities.
It's quite common not to name a cat. So you've
just got our cat. It's called Catus. Well yeah, man,
Mum sat in the bloody VIT's office waiting for our
(07:19):
cat and they called mellow path like ten times, and
we didn't know that our cat was called mallow Paths.
It wasn't until like we're the only people who left
sitting there and they're like, hey, look I think this
is your cat. We don't ever care called malop anyway.
So this podcast doesn't have a name and it's becoming
a little bit of an issue, and so we're like, well,
let's put it in the people's hands. Like you say,
it's a good you know, people that listen to the podcast,
(07:41):
they get it, and that doesn't need a name because
they just put the podcast on. But if we're looking
to grow this sucker, then we need a name. So
we took to social media and read a posted in
the Conclave the Hood Can Breakfast Facebook page. What should
we call it? Because, like you said, we've changed the
name so many times, this next one needs to stick
because if we are changing it too many more times. Lord,
(08:03):
So Fraser has said, apologize cuddle Cry. Does that sum
up what the podcast is? Apologize cuddle Cry.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yes, it's the acc approach to post coital yeah making,
and it is acc Apologize cuddle cry.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, Big Joe McCarthy, the UFC ref.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's an interesting name for a podcasts, Big Joe McCarthy, Yeah,
the UFC ref.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Now he has commented and he said he said two
wounders and a ruder, and then Brad replied, this implies
that ruder isn't a wounded and correct, to which Joe replied,
good point two wounders and a wounder w O O
N D A confused? Oh and a wounder right? Okay,
(08:50):
Stephen Morris is said, and this has got the most
likes on the thread. I said it ages ago, The
Daily Wounded. Okay, I don't mind the Daily Wounded, the
Daily Wounder, but it does have something like that. I
think that could be. That could be a fitting name,
the Daily Wounded. It's saying what it's going to do.
It's gonna be wounded daily, and.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's although it's not on the weekends.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
The weekday wounded, the week the weekday wounder. M quite
like that. Yeah, that's got it's got mirrotor that's definitely
topic top. Well, so far got that down, Blake said
the Hog and Yoppers. Now I love that for a name.
It's a great name, but it's a good name.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
For a bar for it's unfortunately doesn't say what the podcast.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
If you don't listen to it, it's like what is this?
That's the problem because all of the names that we
keep coming up with as well, they're all very in joking,
and it's like if you come across that podcast, it's
also very hard to search. But yes, I think that's
probably more a bar. William Bacon Preston, Yes, who sounds
like something you could order from Windy's, has said casserole,
(09:57):
bespokey doggie after breakfast, snack smoke, her time with Hidakie breakfast.
I like the three that he's going with. It's something
that happens after the show.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Okay, that's fine, but it's still again not quite saying
exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Is that? Yeah, No, Brad Vickers has said are we
doing this? We're not doing this?
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Are we.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Long? Coming up today on are we doing this? We're
not doing this? Are we? I like that? That is good? Yeah,
I like it. I mean I like all of these.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yes, it's just yeah, but what's the best one?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
That's the question. Matthew Higginson has said Raking over the coals.
I don't mind that. Raking over the cols is pretty good. Yeah,
it's not really what we do on this podcast, but
we're probably doing that more on the Raja Show and
it's adjacent. Matt Harrison writes, have you considered bringing the
podcast and radio should show together into one download? Oh god?
(10:57):
Lewis MacLean writes the post coital Cuddle with jerrym.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And I the post coisal cuddle. I like it again,
but it's not quite I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Quight there, Luke said, you listen to what I give
you boy? Now see that for me at least is
very triggering.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So yeah, well you were the recipi end of the
original you drink when I give you a boy on
the way.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
To the Music Awards there, Brandon. Then the next morning,
I for some reason, was driving the Hadaky station vehicle
to work and he was doing it again on the
radio while I was feeling up on the four Court
who happened to be listening to radio Hadak as well.
So I pull up in the Hadak thing and it's
playing on the four Court and then you the very
capable pod yoppers. Yep. But Womba.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But Womba I like, I think, But Womba's a good
name for a TV show, But I'm not I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Wimba.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Wimba also a good name for a dog, by the way,
but Wimba.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Him the wellness repeat? Will you harp on for half
an hour every day about needing another holiday? Hm Callum
Wild said the Jeremy Wells podcast, and in a similar vein,
Glenn said with featuring, So Glenn's got a good idea
in that same vein the Jeremy Wells experience, Will you
(12:19):
go back and Jerry re dubs over Manaia's voice. Some
people already experienced this. Apparently Jerry cans Jeremy Well's talking
to Jeremy Bickfitt, The Daily crap On, show Me Your Yoppers,
the Double Dippers, the Jeers, and New Lee's potty Stephen
(12:41):
Job not to be confused with Bill Gates said, are
we combining them to Michael cock Watermelon Media. I'm thinking
the intro podcast has a good ring to it. Toolbox Talk,
you better listen to this beach podcast or we'll play
that beach podcast cones with Jay Walls and Monica's sessions
(13:03):
with money Cars and the Two Jizz's monietizing a podcast
about money Car's expanding is it's the following the Daily Dribble.
Old dudes say stuff, Old dudes say stuff. Yeah, well,
I like that, but the problem is, do old dudes
think of us as old dudes? Do they want to
(13:23):
be thought of as old dudes? It's got a touch
of irony tale if you turn into it and you're like, oh,
damn old, it's not old dudes. Yeah, ho DECKI h
d ak. When you listen to the podcast and have
the subtitles on the screen, that's what Hodaki comes up as.
Billy Napier hogging Yopper is the morning Ramble, but you
(13:44):
might be listening to it in the afternoon. The Broadcasting
Standards Authority.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
The Broadcasting Standards Authority, that's got something that's not bad,
that's quite good. It feels a bit on fun.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
If they shut it down down then the name will
be for grabs. Yeah, the Broadcasting Standards Authority, standards.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It sounds like it sounds like we're being but you know,
we're full of ourselves. The Broadcasting Standards. It reminds me
a little bit of university, all right, twelve o'clock rock.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
So the best ones that we came across them, the
ones that got the most favorite.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
The ones that are going forward to the next round.
The week day wounder, the weekday wounded, day wounded is
not bad.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, and Raking over the coals to be the two
favorites at the moment.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Raking over the carls, it's too similar to between two beers,
between two balls.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Well, but they got that from between two ferns and
do you think they went it's too similar to blah
blah blah. No, they fucking took it, mate.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
The look how they're going. They fucking took it. Fucking
took it mate, and you'll fucking take it. They really
we Thank god. Man I hope he doesn't listen back
to this podcast. Ago. I wonder how that podcast I
was on went and then has to sit through fifteen
minutes of fake Friday into the weekday. Wonder. Surely stay
(15:10):
good break and talk to him. Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Jeremy Wells and Manaia Stuart find them on Instagram at
Hodaki Breakfast. Jerry and Maniah joined the complay the Hodaki
Breakfast discussion group on Facebook for more.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Great so, the Take Music Prize announced that the Mint
chicks sophomore album Crazy Yes Dumb No is going to
be awarded the Independent Music New Zealand Classic Record at
next month's event. And we've got Ruben Nielsen from the
(15:51):
Mint checks with us. Now get a Ruben. Thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Hey, how' the going?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
How are you good?
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Thanks?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Weird good? We're getting here. Where in the world are you?
Are you in?
Speaker 5 (16:02):
New Zealand At the moment, I'm in Portland, Oregon.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Are you now you live there? Don't you?
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
How long? How long you've been over there?
Speaker 5 (16:11):
For about fifteen years? I think?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
What is it about Portland? Seems to be a big
music town, right.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yeah, it's pretty famous for music for a small town.
It is some it's pretty like active with like creative stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I understand, also craft beer breweries. Which of the two
scenes was it that took you over to Portland?
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Well, actually it was more my family because my mom's
brother lives here and all of his kids who are
now all having kids as well. So there's like a
whole kind of section of my family that lives here,
and so that's sort of initially brought me over here.
(17:01):
But then I sort of discovered that the place itself
was really interesting, and so I thought it would be
cool to, you know, live here for a while. And
I just thought I would come here for like a
year or two. And now it's been fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Wow, fifteen years. When I think Portland, Oregon, I think moody.
I think, I think moist.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I don't think even though obviously it's got beautiful outdoors,
beautiful forests and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
In Oregon, I feel like it rains a lot, so
it's probably good to make music.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
And it's it's a pretty rainy place here, and so
you have eight months of pretty rainy weather. It sort
of forces you to do some do creative stuff. So
I actually enjoy it for that.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Is that where Twilight was shot.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
It is yeah, like Oregon, Yeah, Portland around here. It's
also like kind of the Twin Peaks part of America
as well. There's a lot of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Did you? Did you? Because we went to America? Lass you?
First time I ever been there, just for a handful
of days. But did you? What were the weirdest parts?
Is the key we moving to America because they are
very different people, aren't there?
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Yeah, Yeah, they're pretty different. A lot of them are
insane and they but I mean, as far as music goes,
I really find it an inspiring place to be because
the culture is pretty appreciative of musicians and there's a
(18:42):
lot of good music here. A lot of the music
that I love us from here, So that that part
of it's quite cool. Politically, it's always been insane, like
into since I've been here, and people are people pretty warm,
you know, like they're like in person, they're pretty friendly people.
(19:06):
I think, you know, I think Kiwis are known as
being friendly. Like when Americans go to New Zealand, they
say that Kiwi's are friendly. So I suppose New Zealand
is a friendly but Americans are kind of friendly in
a different way. They're quite like boisterous or something, so
they're part of it's kind of pleasant too. Portland's a
(19:27):
little bit like New Zealand in some ways as well,
like the weather and population here in Portland. It's not
that different from from the Vibes and like Wellington or Auckland,
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, I feel like the further north you go in America,
as you're pushing towards that Canadian border, even into Canada,
the more New Zealander it gets in terms of the people.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah, I think so yeah, But when can we go
back to crazy Yes? Dumb No?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
And and the single itself crazy is dumb No. I.
I've listened to it and I love it, and I've
listened to it a lot, and I've always wondered.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Because the drum for me, the drums are so important
in that song and I've always wondered, did you start
with the drums? Where did the what was the genesis
of the song. Do you remember what the first parts
of the song were, how you built it?
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Well? I remember the song, the chords and the lyrics
and everything came before that drum part. I just I'm
a bit terrified that I'm going to get the story
wrong because the drums were written somewhere between Paul Roper,
who was the drummer, and Cody, and I think I
(20:48):
really can't remember exactly how it started with how it started,
but I think it might have been. Yeah, I can't,
I can't actually remember. I think it was. It might
have been Cody played that pattern, or it might have been.
And I feel like I'm really stepping into controversial territory there.
(21:09):
Remember exactly how it happened. It wasn't me. I didn't.
I didn't come up with the drum part. All I
remember is being really excited about it, and yeah, unless
I'm completely wrong and all came up with it. I
think it was Cody started playing that, and I can't
remember why he started playing it. I don't know where
(21:31):
the drum part came from, just a moment of inspiration,
I suppose, and it was just like the song itself
is pretty straightforward. It's almost like a kind of motown
love song or something, but with that weird military drum
loop idea, it becomes super weird.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You Knowlary sounds like, but what what time segment? You
guys are all musicians. I'm not a musician, so I
don't understand it. Is it a strange time signature or
is it a normal time signature?
Speaker 5 (22:04):
It's normal.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
When you were making that album, What did it feel
like when as you guys were making it, did it
feel like I'm sure each song was different, but like,
did it all just sort of fall out of your
heads in one short period of time or did you
labor on it a little bit more?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
It took longer because I think the first album we
did really quickly and we recorded it all live together
as a band, and the second album was we just
took longer and did it in a different way, like
laid down things more slowly, and it took a long
time to mix and stuff, and our dad helped us
(22:46):
a lot. Our dad was helping us, I guess make
it more professional because it was like the idea behind it.
I think was that we'd done all of these weird
records and we wanted to try and do like a
like a proper record of that Maxten. It's like like
I was trying to make like a real like those albums,
(23:06):
like those bands that are trying to make things for
people that they enjoy or something like, which was like
weirdly at the time, like we just didn't think about
that that much, Like we didn't really didn't care what
anyone thought of us. So it was like the first
time that we actually started to think about the enjoyment
of the audience or whatever. And yeah, it took so
(23:31):
it took a lot longer than the other record did
because the other record we sort of threw together very spontaneously,
which I think. I'm also really proud of that record. Yeah,
So it was a lot of we would record something
and then my dad would talk about, you know, making
a mix was like that sounded professional, was like polishing
(23:52):
it to make it more presentable, and it's just like,
I guess it was something I just hadn't thought about
that much as we were doing punk music, and but
then all of a sudden, it was like, oh, we've
already kind of done a lot of this doy punk
style recording, and it's like, maybe we should try and
work on this for a long time and see what happens.
(24:14):
And I think that's all. That's all. That's how I
remember it going.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
So you weren't saying, thinking let's win the iamins it
is imns in Classic Record Recipient in twenty twenty six,
when you were.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Right, I don't think we had any like particular goals,
but we were trying to put like our best effort in,
you know, trying to make make make a really good album.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
What do you think? I mean, I know that.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Sounds weird, but it's just we weren't particularly thinking that.
We were just trying to amuse ourselves before.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
That it was part of your dad's drive and moving
it to be more polished. Was that to try and
bring it to a broader, bigger audience. Was that part
of what he was thinking.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
I think I don't know, knowing my dad, it was
probably more a musical thing that he thought, maybe that
there was some potential and like kind of presenting what
we can do to people. You know, Like, I don't
really think anybody had any particular idea that that money
(25:19):
was a big deal. But I think, you know, he
was older than us, and maybe he was just thinking
ahead a little more, just thinking like, why don't you
guys have a shower and put a suit on, see
what happened this kind of thing. Maybe he was just
thinking like an adult and and maybe there was just
that kind of thing. But I think I mean, if
(25:39):
I was just a guess, I'm putting words in his mouth.
But it's kind of like at the time, I felt
like he was a bit frustrated that we were so
purposefully Amateurisian and like and like so and we were
trolling so yeah, so hard all the time that he
was just kind of like, you just what if you
(26:01):
just try to make it make a good album? You know,
like that's that's kind of what it felt like at
the time. And actually that did seem like the biggest
troll at the time, which is why I think we
kind of went along with it, because we were like, oh, yeah,
imagine if we tried that would be.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Like, yeah, you mentioned your dad, your your brother even
involved in this in this album? What was your house
like growing up?
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Like?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Was it just instruments everywhere? It was a very musical
spot on it look was it madness?
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Yeah, yeah, it was pretty chaotic, pretty gnarly environment. Yeah,
a lot of a lot of music going on. My
dad would go on tour a lot and stuff. I
didn't really do much music until I left home, but
the family is very musical, Like Cody was playing drums
when we were kids, and keyboards and making making beats
(27:00):
all this kind of stuff when we were we were
in high school and stuff, and Dad was always playing music,
and so we had access to all of this kind
of stuff. Or I was like, I grew up around it.
And Dad was like a pretty big jazz guy, so
he would listen to a lot of like Miles Davis
and stuff like that. So we grew up with that
(27:20):
kind of music. And then I suppose partly the punk
thing was like a little bit of a reaction against
my family's musical background. Like this's a bicycle background and
stuff like that. My dad's just a kind of professional musician,
you know. We played as a degree in music and
(27:42):
stuff like that, and and I went to university for arts,
so I went to ELM and study paintings, So I
didn't have any musical education. So doing punk was kind
of like it's like, we ended up doing music, but
we didn't want to do it exactly like my dad
(28:03):
or my auntie or my granddad's kind of way, which
I suppose is just like pretty typical. You don't want
to just kind of follow what your parents are doing,
but you end up kind of doing it anyway.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, it's a weird thing that you end up going
down those roads. Now, I've got another question for you
around the around how you actually say the album name,
obviously with the punctuation. You've probably been asked this a
million times. Could you say the album name for us,
please using the correct or the punctuation which which you
(28:38):
what you wanted it to be taken in, if that's
if that makes sense?
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Yeah, okay, So I guess it's crazy, yes, dumb, no ah,
there we.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Go, okay, because there's also there's exclamation marks after years
and no. So I wondered whether I always thought it
was crazy. I thought maybe it was, yes, and.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Then oh yeah, I guess no, Yeah, I guess I
guess so it could be that as well.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
I went crazy, yup, dumb? Nah?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Yeah. Oh that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Reben, thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
So much for talking to us. Congratulations on your Award.
Glad to hear that everything's going well for you over
in Portland and and best of luck with everything. Thanks
for chatting to us, Thank you, Jeria and Maniah.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome along to our podcast. Ruby Wilson from the mit
Checks joins us in just a few moments.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Yeah, that's right, and before we talk to Nils Ruben Nilson, though,
we put a post in the conclave about a new
potential new name. We'll get to that, a new name
for the podcast, but just quickly. It's not often that
there's a subject coming up on the podcast that's so
good that it's worth teasing two days ahead of time.
(00:30):
But I do want to alert the long suffering listeners
to this podcast to something that's going to be happening
this Friday. Yeah, and that's the first ever fake deck Fridays,
and I think deack Fridays. Well, we'll just do one
and see how it goes. But basically, yes, Monday, Actually
(00:52):
I received a message that reminded me of a story
that I became aware of a few years ago. And
I didn't want to ruin this, sorry, because I want
your honest reactions to it. But I told you guys
that it involved a fake deck and asked whether I
had your attention or not, and I sure did. Yeah,
well you generally do.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
It's just not often you hear those words not only
broadcast but also on podcast Fake deck.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
No I know. And then so then I said, well,
should we talk about it tomorrow on the podcast? This
was on Monday, and yesterday we never got to it
because we talked to the people at Dirt Lead guys,
and we wasted time talking about something else as well.
And then today, because of course Reuben's coming in, he
doesn't need to be associated with fake deck Friday, and
so then why do you ask him? Give him the option?
And then we we said, oh, should we do it tomorrow?
(01:38):
Tomorrow is pretty busy too, We'll just do it on Friday.
And that's when we're like, oh yeah, fake deck Friday.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
So we've got to sit on the fake deck till Friday.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Sit on the fake deck till Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's quite as the deepest tease I've ever experienced in
my thirty odd years are broadcasting.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
We're just going to throw this crayfish pot in the
water and say if some first don't crawl into it,
you know what I mean, And then we'll pull it
up on Friday and see we've got and it might
be nothing. Probably can I've watched Look, I've watched enough
dead List catch to note the bearing seas are fickle mistress.
And we don't know what's going to be in that pot,
(02:13):
you know what I mean. It could be full of
beard ie crab, could be full of Alaskan king crab,
could be full of fake Diggs. It could be full
of nothing. Who knows. I'm excited. You know, I ever
pulled up a cray pot. I've never pulled up a
crap I have never I never have I ever eaten
I've eaten some crayfish. Imagine that, you know, when you're
sitting around on the person. Never have I ever watched
(02:35):
while two other people and then okay, now it's your
Never have I ever pulled up a crayfish pot with
a cray on? It certainly with a crayon.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I've pulled up a cray pot with no cray that
cray I've done a couple of batshit craves in my time, but.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I've never I've never pulled up one.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I'm just imagined that when you do pull up that
crab pote and that's got a cray and it must
feel really good.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Ah well, I'll ask mysss when I get home, because
she's done it. Here's she Yeah, she pulled up a
crape pot. She would the hens doing that young crayfish?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Hold on, that's hot fucking what.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Partner went on a hens do? And they went crayfishing?
What the is that? You guys not go crayfishing on?
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Where?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Where was the hens do? What? That's where the craveish?
Can we get her on? And can she run us
through the itinery of the colder cray fishing wave fish?
Hens do? Would you if you needed to pull up
(03:41):
some crayfish on? Would you want to go cray fishing
on her? Hens to?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I think that's the first and only time that has
ever happened in the history of the universe.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
She got at least one, and she she brought it
back and then we were standing at appearance and I
boiled this crayfish it all?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Do?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
He says, there when you but no, it wasn't. Sorry,
I stunk the whole house out of room one of
the parts of this cravey because she then had to
drive to Marsa worth it. So you boil that boil
that boil that thing within an inch of its life
scream and then slather it in butter. I couldn't find
(04:24):
any gallic good Butter will do it. You get get
out off the back of it. Get get off the
back of that thing. Man a Christmas gat. It is good,
isn't it? The old cry goodness? So anyway Friday fact Fridays. Yeah,
when you look, it's just anything interesting is to form
of what now? Presenter? Not funny? Far for it? No not,
(04:47):
I don't care. Chavorn No, no, it's not that luck
as it.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Okay, I beat you can't keep going.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I beat you, okay, Jason Gunn no thingy. I I
know who it is. I've got it. I guess I've
got it. No, I am going to guess. Props Boy
prop Yes, it's props Boy, Yes, I know props with
propping A bit of boy. Where the hell did he
get We should get him on the podcast? With the
hell did the idea for Props Boy come from? And
(05:16):
I think he was just working on the show. And
then he had that hat. I remember those hat. He
had the hat first.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I'm pretty sure Props boys on my cricket team bowl
good good pace. Actually he's a good bowler at the
had No, nobody knew it was Props boy bowling for them.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
But he bowls a good line and length.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Man, is it always about quite hard?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
This is This is the scary thing about playing social
cricket in New Zealand. You never know Props boys bowl
again boys useful, He's also aggressive.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Would have been an annoying sledge like if they did
know it was Props boy. Everything he did, go on,
Props Boy, on your props Props boys, good lines the pros.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Do you know what? Do we even have time to
go over the We're looking for a new name for
the podcast. There's a post in the conclave. Have time
to go through this? Or should we hold it off?
We can't talk about it on Friday. We got time.
We got time. We've been talking about potentially renaming the podcast.
At one point it was unofficially dubbed The Casserole, and
before I joined the show, it was the Bespokey Daily
(06:15):
Bespoke dailypo Spoke. The case Role is a whole lot
of things boiling away in a pot. Yeah, which was
a great summary of what it was, but it wasn't
a strong statement of what the podcast was, and now
we don't have it even when we said in meetings,
(06:35):
how many times we're about to do it after this?
How many times have we sat there and gone so
so on the podcast and hold on? Do you mean
the the show highlight? Is it the one that? Is
it the radio show podcast or the podcast podcast? For
for a podcast that doesn't have a name and has
moved its name so many times, it's it's quite successful. Yeah,
you know, I don't want to blow our trumpet there,
(06:58):
but it's unusually successful. It's the only podcast that doesn't
have a name that is head well sorry, that's had
different names, like a barn cat, it still manages to
be in the top ten, like remarkable and rural communities.
It's quite common not to name a cat. So you've
just got our cat. It's called Catus. Well yeah, man,
Mum sat in the bloody VIT's office waiting for our
(07:19):
cat and they called mellow path like ten times, and
we didn't know that our cat was called mallow Paths.
It wasn't until like we're the only people who left
sitting there and they're like, hey, look I think this
is your cat. We don't ever care called malop anyway.
So this podcast doesn't have a name and it's becoming
a little bit of an issue, and so we're like, well,
let's put it in the people's hands. Like you say,
it's a good you know, people that listen to the podcast,
(07:41):
they get it, and that doesn't need a name because
they just put the podcast on. But if we're looking
to grow this sucker, then we need a name. So
we took to social media and read a posted in
the Conclave the Hood Can Breakfast Facebook page. What should
we call it? Because, like you said, we've changed the
name so many times, this next one needs to stick
because if we are changing it too many more times. Lord,
(08:03):
So Fraser has said, apologize cuddle Cry. Does that sum
up what the podcast is? Apologize cuddle Cry.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yes, it's the acc approach to post coital yeah making,
and it is acc Apologize cuddle cry.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, Big Joe McCarthy, the UFC ref.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's an interesting name for a podcasts, Big Joe McCarthy, Yeah,
the UFC ref.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Now he has commented and he said he said two
wounders and a ruder, and then Brad replied, this implies
that ruder isn't a wounded and correct, to which Joe replied,
good point two wounders and a wounder w O O
N D A confused? Oh and a wounder right? Okay,
(08:50):
Stephen Morris is said, and this has got the most
likes on the thread. I said it ages ago, The
Daily Wounded. Okay, I don't mind the Daily Wounded, the
Daily Wounder, but it does have something like that. I
think that could be. That could be a fitting name,
the Daily Wounded. It's saying what it's going to do.
It's gonna be wounded daily, and.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's although it's not on the weekends.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
The weekday wounded, the week the weekday wounder. M quite
like that. Yeah, that's got it's got mirrotor that's definitely
topic top. Well, so far got that down, Blake said
the Hog and Yoppers. Now I love that for a name.
It's a great name, but it's a good name.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
For a bar for it's unfortunately doesn't say what the podcast.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
If you don't listen to it, it's like what is this?
That's the problem because all of the names that we
keep coming up with as well, they're all very in joking,
and it's like if you come across that podcast, it's
also very hard to search. But yes, I think that's
probably more a bar. William Bacon Preston, Yes, who sounds
like something you could order from Windy's, has said casserole,
(09:57):
bespokey doggie after breakfast, snack smoke, her time with Hidakie breakfast.
I like the three that he's going with. It's something
that happens after the show.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Okay, that's fine, but it's still again not quite saying
exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Is that? Yeah, No, Brad Vickers has said are we
doing this? We're not doing this?
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Are we.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Long? Coming up today on are we doing this? We're
not doing this? Are we? I like that? That is good? Yeah,
I like it. I mean I like all of these.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yes, it's just yeah, but what's the best one?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
That's the question. Matthew Higginson has said Raking over the coals.
I don't mind that. Raking over the cols is pretty good. Yeah,
it's not really what we do on this podcast, but
we're probably doing that more on the Raja Show and
it's adjacent. Matt Harrison writes, have you considered bringing the
podcast and radio should show together into one download? Oh god?
(10:57):
Lewis MacLean writes the post coital Cuddle with jerrym.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And I the post coisal cuddle. I like it again,
but it's not quite I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Quight there, Luke said, you listen to what I give
you boy? Now see that for me at least is
very triggering.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So yeah, well you were the recipi end of the
original you drink when I give you a boy on
the way.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
To the Music Awards there, Brandon. Then the next morning,
I for some reason, was driving the Hadaky station vehicle
to work and he was doing it again on the
radio while I was feeling up on the four Court
who happened to be listening to radio Hadak as well.
So I pull up in the Hadak thing and it's
playing on the four Court and then you the very
capable pod yoppers. Yep. But Womba.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But Womba I like, I think, But Womba's a good
name for a TV show, But I'm not I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Wimba.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Wimba also a good name for a dog, by the way,
but Wimba.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Him the wellness repeat? Will you harp on for half
an hour every day about needing another holiday? Hm Callum
Wild said the Jeremy Wells podcast, and in a similar vein,
Glenn said with featuring, So Glenn's got a good idea
in that same vein the Jeremy Wells experience, Will you
(12:19):
go back and Jerry re dubs over Manaia's voice. Some
people already experienced this. Apparently Jerry cans Jeremy Well's talking
to Jeremy Bickfitt, The Daily crap On, show Me Your Yoppers,
the Double Dippers, the Jeers, and New Lee's potty Stephen
(12:41):
Job not to be confused with Bill Gates said, are
we combining them to Michael cock Watermelon Media. I'm thinking
the intro podcast has a good ring to it. Toolbox Talk,
you better listen to this beach podcast or we'll play
that beach podcast cones with Jay Walls and Monica's sessions
(13:03):
with money Cars and the Two Jizz's monietizing a podcast
about money Car's expanding is it's the following the Daily Dribble.
Old dudes say stuff, Old dudes say stuff. Yeah, well,
I like that, but the problem is, do old dudes
think of us as old dudes? Do they want to
(13:23):
be thought of as old dudes? It's got a touch
of irony tale if you turn into it and you're like, oh,
damn old, it's not old dudes. Yeah, ho DECKI h
d ak. When you listen to the podcast and have
the subtitles on the screen, that's what Hodaki comes up as.
Billy Napier hogging Yopper is the morning Ramble, but you
(13:44):
might be listening to it in the afternoon. The Broadcasting
Standards Authority.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
The Broadcasting Standards Authority, that's got something that's not bad,
that's quite good. It feels a bit on fun.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
If they shut it down down then the name will
be for grabs. Yeah, the Broadcasting Standards Authority, standards.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It sounds like it sounds like we're being but you know,
we're full of ourselves. The Broadcasting Standards. It reminds me
a little bit of university, all right, twelve o'clock rock.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
So the best ones that we came across them, the
ones that got the most favorite.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
The ones that are going forward to the next round.
The week day wounder, the weekday wounded, day wounded is
not bad.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, and Raking over the coals to be the two
favorites at the moment.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Raking over the carls, it's too similar to between two beers,
between two balls.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Well, but they got that from between two ferns and
do you think they went it's too similar to blah
blah blah. No, they fucking took it, mate.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
The look how they're going. They fucking took it. Fucking
took it mate, and you'll fucking take it. They really
we Thank god. Man I hope he doesn't listen back
to this podcast. Ago. I wonder how that podcast I
was on went and then has to sit through fifteen
minutes of fake Friday into the weekday. Wonder. Surely stay
(15:10):
good break and talk to him. Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Jeremy Wells and Manaia Stuart find them on Instagram at
Hodaki Breakfast. Jerry and Maniah joined the complay the Hodaki
Breakfast discussion group on Facebook for more.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Great so, the Take Music Prize announced that the Mint
chicks sophomore album Crazy Yes Dumb No is going to
be awarded the Independent Music New Zealand Classic Record at
next month's event. And we've got Ruben Nielsen from the
(15:51):
Mint checks with us. Now get a Ruben. Thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Hey, how' the going?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
How are you good?
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Thanks?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Weird good? We're getting here. Where in the world are you?
Are you in?
Speaker 5 (16:02):
New Zealand At the moment, I'm in Portland, Oregon.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Are you now you live there? Don't you?
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
How long? How long you've been over there?
Speaker 5 (16:11):
For about fifteen years? I think?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
What is it about Portland? Seems to be a big
music town, right.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yeah, it's pretty famous for music for a small town.
It is some it's pretty like active with like creative stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I understand, also craft beer breweries. Which of the two
scenes was it that took you over to Portland?
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Well, actually it was more my family because my mom's
brother lives here and all of his kids who are
now all having kids as well. So there's like a
whole kind of section of my family that lives here,
and so that's sort of initially brought me over here.
(17:01):
But then I sort of discovered that the place itself
was really interesting, and so I thought it would be
cool to, you know, live here for a while. And
I just thought I would come here for like a
year or two. And now it's been fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Wow, fifteen years. When I think Portland, Oregon, I think moody.
I think, I think moist.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I don't think even though obviously it's got beautiful outdoors,
beautiful forests and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
In Oregon, I feel like it rains a lot, so
it's probably good to make music.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
And it's it's a pretty rainy place here, and so
you have eight months of pretty rainy weather. It sort
of forces you to do some do creative stuff. So
I actually enjoy it for that.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Is that where Twilight was shot.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
It is yeah, like Oregon, Yeah, Portland around here. It's
also like kind of the Twin Peaks part of America
as well. There's a lot of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Did you? Did you? Because we went to America? Lass you?
First time I ever been there, just for a handful
of days. But did you? What were the weirdest parts?
Is the key we moving to America because they are
very different people, aren't there?
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Yeah, Yeah, they're pretty different. A lot of them are
insane and they but I mean, as far as music goes,
I really find it an inspiring place to be because
the culture is pretty appreciative of musicians and there's a
(18:42):
lot of good music here. A lot of the music
that I love us from here, So that that part
of it's quite cool. Politically, it's always been insane, like
into since I've been here, and people are people pretty warm,
you know, like they're like in person, they're pretty friendly people.
(19:06):
I think, you know, I think Kiwis are known as
being friendly. Like when Americans go to New Zealand, they
say that Kiwi's are friendly. So I suppose New Zealand
is a friendly but Americans are kind of friendly in
a different way. They're quite like boisterous or something, so
they're part of it's kind of pleasant too. Portland's a
(19:27):
little bit like New Zealand in some ways as well,
like the weather and population here in Portland. It's not
that different from from the Vibes and like Wellington or Auckland,
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, I feel like the further north you go in America,
as you're pushing towards that Canadian border, even into Canada,
the more New Zealander it gets in terms of the people.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah, I think so yeah, But when can we go
back to crazy Yes? Dumb No?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
And and the single itself crazy is dumb No. I.
I've listened to it and I love it, and I've
listened to it a lot, and I've always wondered.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Because the drum for me, the drums are so important
in that song and I've always wondered, did you start
with the drums? Where did the what was the genesis
of the song. Do you remember what the first parts
of the song were, how you built it?
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Well? I remember the song, the chords and the lyrics
and everything came before that drum part. I just I'm
a bit terrified that I'm going to get the story
wrong because the drums were written somewhere between Paul Roper,
who was the drummer, and Cody, and I think I
(20:48):
really can't remember exactly how it started with how it started,
but I think it might have been. Yeah, I can't,
I can't actually remember. I think it was. It might
have been Cody played that pattern, or it might have been.
And I feel like I'm really stepping into controversial territory there.
(21:09):
Remember exactly how it happened. It wasn't me. I didn't.
I didn't come up with the drum part. All I
remember is being really excited about it, and yeah, unless
I'm completely wrong and all came up with it. I
think it was Cody started playing that, and I can't
remember why he started playing it. I don't know where
(21:31):
the drum part came from, just a moment of inspiration,
I suppose, and it was just like the song itself
is pretty straightforward. It's almost like a kind of motown
love song or something, but with that weird military drum
loop idea, it becomes super weird.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You Knowlary sounds like, but what what time segment? You
guys are all musicians. I'm not a musician, so I
don't understand it. Is it a strange time signature or
is it a normal time signature?
Speaker 5 (22:04):
It's normal.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
When you were making that album, What did it feel
like when as you guys were making it, did it
feel like I'm sure each song was different, but like,
did it all just sort of fall out of your
heads in one short period of time or did you
labor on it a little bit more?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
It took longer because I think the first album we
did really quickly and we recorded it all live together
as a band, and the second album was we just
took longer and did it in a different way, like
laid down things more slowly, and it took a long
time to mix and stuff, and our dad helped us
(22:46):
a lot. Our dad was helping us, I guess make
it more professional because it was like the idea behind it.
I think was that we'd done all of these weird
records and we wanted to try and do like a
like a proper record of that Maxten. It's like like
I was trying to make like a real like those albums,
(23:06):
like those bands that are trying to make things for
people that they enjoy or something like, which was like
weirdly at the time, like we just didn't think about
that that much, Like we didn't really didn't care what
anyone thought of us. So it was like the first
time that we actually started to think about the enjoyment
of the audience or whatever. And yeah, it took so
(23:31):
it took a lot longer than the other record did
because the other record we sort of threw together very spontaneously,
which I think. I'm also really proud of that record. Yeah,
So it was a lot of we would record something
and then my dad would talk about, you know, making
a mix was like that sounded professional, was like polishing
(23:52):
it to make it more presentable, and it's just like,
I guess it was something I just hadn't thought about
that much as we were doing punk music, and but
then all of a sudden, it was like, oh, we've
already kind of done a lot of this doy punk
style recording, and it's like, maybe we should try and
work on this for a long time and see what happens.
(24:14):
And I think that's all. That's all. That's how I
remember it going.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
So you weren't saying, thinking let's win the iamins it
is imns in Classic Record Recipient in twenty twenty six,
when you were.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Right, I don't think we had any like particular goals,
but we were trying to put like our best effort in,
you know, trying to make make make a really good album.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
What do you think? I mean, I know that.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Sounds weird, but it's just we weren't particularly thinking that.
We were just trying to amuse ourselves before.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
That it was part of your dad's drive and moving
it to be more polished. Was that to try and
bring it to a broader, bigger audience. Was that part
of what he was thinking.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
I think I don't know, knowing my dad, it was
probably more a musical thing that he thought, maybe that
there was some potential and like kind of presenting what
we can do to people. You know, Like, I don't
really think anybody had any particular idea that that money
(25:19):
was a big deal. But I think, you know, he
was older than us, and maybe he was just thinking
ahead a little more, just thinking like, why don't you
guys have a shower and put a suit on, see
what happened this kind of thing. Maybe he was just
thinking like an adult and and maybe there was just
that kind of thing. But I think I mean, if
(25:39):
I was just a guess, I'm putting words in his mouth.
But it's kind of like at the time, I felt
like he was a bit frustrated that we were so
purposefully Amateurisian and like and like so and we were
trolling so yeah, so hard all the time that he
was just kind of like, you just what if you
(26:01):
just try to make it make a good album? You know,
like that's that's kind of what it felt like at
the time. And actually that did seem like the biggest
troll at the time, which is why I think we
kind of went along with it, because we were like, oh, yeah,
imagine if we tried that would be.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Like, yeah, you mentioned your dad, your your brother even
involved in this in this album? What was your house
like growing up?
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Like?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Was it just instruments everywhere? It was a very musical
spot on it look was it madness?
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Yeah, yeah, it was pretty chaotic, pretty gnarly environment. Yeah,
a lot of a lot of music going on. My
dad would go on tour a lot and stuff. I
didn't really do much music until I left home, but
the family is very musical, Like Cody was playing drums
when we were kids, and keyboards and making making beats
(27:00):
all this kind of stuff when we were we were
in high school and stuff, and Dad was always playing music,
and so we had access to all of this kind
of stuff. Or I was like, I grew up around it.
And Dad was like a pretty big jazz guy, so
he would listen to a lot of like Miles Davis
and stuff like that. So we grew up with that
(27:20):
kind of music. And then I suppose partly the punk
thing was like a little bit of a reaction against
my family's musical background. Like this's a bicycle background and
stuff like that. My dad's just a kind of professional musician,
you know. We played as a degree in music and
(27:42):
stuff like that, and and I went to university for arts,
so I went to ELM and study paintings, So I
didn't have any musical education. So doing punk was kind
of like it's like, we ended up doing music, but
we didn't want to do it exactly like my dad
(28:03):
or my auntie or my granddad's kind of way, which
I suppose is just like pretty typical. You don't want
to just kind of follow what your parents are doing,
but you end up kind of doing it anyway.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, it's a weird thing that you end up going
down those roads. Now, I've got another question for you
around the around how you actually say the album name,
obviously with the punctuation. You've probably been asked this a
million times. Could you say the album name for us,
please using the correct or the punctuation which which you
(28:38):
what you wanted it to be taken in, if that's
if that makes sense?
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Yeah, okay, So I guess it's crazy, yes, dumb, no ah,
there we.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Go, okay, because there's also there's exclamation marks after years
and no. So I wondered whether I always thought it
was crazy. I thought maybe it was, yes, and.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Then oh yeah, I guess no, Yeah, I guess I
guess so it could be that as well.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
I went crazy, yup, dumb? Nah?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Yeah. Oh that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Reben, thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
So much for talking to us. Congratulations on your Award.
Glad to hear that everything's going well for you over
in Portland and and best of luck with everything. Thanks
for chatting to us, Thank you, Jeria and Maniah.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
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