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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Hiharchy Breakfast belt Big with the Wide Range at

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Speaker 2 (00:03):
The best way to catch up on what you missed
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Speaker 3 (00:08):
Welcome along to the Hierarchy Breakfast Thursday, the sixteenth of
April twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's a Thursday. Nice to see you. He's Mania, Stuart.
This on's the home game, isn't it Thursday?

Speaker 4 (00:18):
If we're looking at the week as a seven day series,
I feel like we won Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Obviously Monday kicked our ass, as it does every week.
We will win tomorrow, so.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
We only needed to win two of Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
We'd like to think we won Tuesday. Did we win Wednesday?
I have a y today I having on Wednesday?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Jesus? Is that yesterday? Was it? Yeah? That sounds like
a loss then, didn't it?

Speaker 5 (00:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I think it may have been. I'm on the way.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I see the week as a bell shaped curve, Benes
and Wednesday's the hump, and then you're on the way down,
and then it's a slippery so and it's almost vertical.
By the time you get Friday, you are just going
straight down.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Then down's good downs go Down's good. Okay, Yeah, the
downward down it's just a lot easier. But down with dog.
It's a lot easier to be.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Neutral going down a hill than it is to be
going upper hill.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's what I found.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
I've always found it difficult going Uphill's in neutral mats.
Just texta on three four eighty three from Donner's Morning Fellers.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Just finished my night shift. Well that's a win. So
I think if we can roll that one in, we win. Thursday,
we're away. This has been a good week. I've always wondered.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Once you come home from a night shift in that situation,
do you do you go and watch something on TV?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Or do you have something to eat you? Or did
you just go straight to bed?

Speaker 5 (01:25):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:25):
From my experience, you passive aggressively wake up the rest
of the house left me. No, you just go home
stomping around, get a blender going or something. I'll tell
you what's going on. I'll tell you what's going on.
I watched seven sharp last night. You guys heard of that?

(01:46):
How do you spell that? It's the numeracle figure seven
sharp and that's on about seven ish, and last night
I watched I think it's Dom Harvey.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Okay, so he is with you.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
I was watching it last night and it was one
of those weird intersections where it's something that I've been
watching on something that's become across my desk on social media,
and then it intersected with seven sharp and it was
all about boy kibble. And I'll save you guys all
the hussle of me introducing it.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
Here's Hillary Barry now a viral TikTok trend featuring simple,
high protein meals, mostly mince and rice. It's creating a
buzz for its apparent muscle building powers.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
It's incredibly popular with young men, and it resembles dog food,
hence the nickname boy kibble.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
But is it any good? And second person, it is good, man.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
It's clear of boy kibble before you.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Know, yeah, boy kiple? Yeah, so it does. It's basically
it's mens and rice, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Manson rice done on in a fry pan, high protein,
I think.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
But the main, the main part of it is because
on the the much vaunted Big Brown Slim Down last year,
I've got involved in a fair bit of boy kibble
because what I found in my journey that led me
back to my own front doorstep of one hundred and
ten kilos.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Was that the key, the big, the ken.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Ingredient to any weight loss or body change thing is adherents.
Can you stick to it right? So there will be
a perfect, you know, diet out there for you. But
could you actually stick to that realistically? Probably not. That's
where boy kibble comes in because I think for most
it's like I'm a useless cook.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
As we know. If I look at it.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
If I have a number recipe and it says chopping onion,
I'm I'm out chopping.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
I'm not chopping an onion.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
But if it just says open a pack of mince,
chuck it in there and then boil some rice, all right,
I'll do that.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
You know, if it was packet onion that came all
pre chopped.

Speaker 7 (04:00):
Well you're not going to open the packet. They got
that frozen. Man, you can buy that frozen, and.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
They're going to throw it out.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
This is the whole Can you actually buy frozen.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
You can get that.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
You can get frozen mashed potato, You can get frozen
and capsicum.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
The frozen mashed potato like that goes good because then
boiling spuds just have mess takes them.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
I've never seen it. I've never seen any of those things.
I was just thinking, I thought, oh that's actually it
is annoying chopping an onion. But yeah, it takes about
two minutes. Doesn't even take two minutes.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, but you know it's better than taking this to
do that. It's not.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
And that's where boy kibble comes in. And that's why
it's boy kibble because it's dude's you know, because a
girl will go, this is going to taste like crap.
I need to add something to it, and I'm willing
to take the extra time to make it taste.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Better as a boy will be like eat cardboard that
if that's easy, So so standard boy kebble.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
You've got your mints, you've got your your your chucking
egg in there. You're cracking egg into it maybe because
that's not that doesn't take time. No, that's and then
you chuck some like spices in there that you're just
tipping their paprika.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Except no, you're getting a bit out of your skis here.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Oh wow, okay, white rice, Yeah, because that takes.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
A while to boil the old white rice. Oh no,
you get to the pack it.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
One micro ninety seconds. Then you chuck it into the pan.
You mix that whole thing up, and if you want
to get real flash, you can go frozen veggies and
just to the whole bag of frozen vegies in there.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Well, that's what Annabel White did for us on seven
charp last night because she heard about the boy kibble
and she was not happy.

Speaker 8 (05:29):
Guys, I can't believe you've got me to make this.
This is tragic.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
I mean, this does look like dog's food, and we
can do so much better than that.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
And she did do better, but again she's missed the
point of boy kibble. It's not that it tastes good.
And to be fair, she's massively overqualified for you us
did to do that. But that's the whole point, is
that it doesn't matter that it doesn't taste good.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
You're just gonna walf it down and then carry on.
It's just fast.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
But I mean, if you make a big batch of
it at once, yeah, and then you can put it
and they can either freeze it or you can put
it in there in the refrigerator. But her one had
her one had baked beans. Oh yeah, father, I mean
you're talking about can crap here, So okay, just tap
a cannon, so baked beans it had it had some
wholepiel tomatoes.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
She waked some bent can or is she peeling this? No?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
No, that's that's out of a cane. It had some broccoli.
Now you're gonna have to chop that, chop brocoli, although
you can get frozen frozen chopped broccoli quite actually. And
then she put in the frozen peas and carrots, et cetera.
The you know, the the mixed veitch. And then she
mixed the lap I think she she chucked and some
soy sauce.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Just whipped that over the top. There.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I tell you what, it was bloody delicious. It was delicious.
I had it from a dog bowl. It was better
than so. She did the boy Kipple recipe and then
she did her one, and her one was like way better.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
And I mean it didn't take any more time.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
I don't think, nah, I know what I'm going to.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Have for lunch?

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Someone six three four eight three. Didn't Dom Harvey do that?
Ends at Burcher get Out and James text through Minsko's
best with cheese and pastry.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
It does go well with cheese and pastry.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
But I mean you could put that crap in a
pie if you wanted to, you put some pastry around it.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
So the boy gible By, Yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Could make a lasagnie out of it if you wanted to.
Very versatile meal.

Speaker 8 (07:26):
The boy kibble, Jerry and Mini, the hold I keep breakfast.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
It's over, Old dudes name years where my names? A
year was was named yesterday to maritime ro it's not anymore.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
That's not today's year. What year are you naming? Today's
year is.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Two thousand, okay, and that's been old dudes' name years
for another day.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
So much happened in two thousand, dude, so.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Much, even so much evaned in the first like forty
eight hours of two thousand, and then almost nothing for
the rest of that year.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Well, did the things happen in the first forty eight
hours of two thousand? That's a predicted were going to
happen in the first forty eight hours.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, white O.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
So do you know anything about y two k because
you were born after the year two thousand?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Do you so that? I don't.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
I don't think anyone who wasn't around at the time
probably doesn't understand the level of hysteria that was going
around the world.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
There ads on TV. Are you y two k ready?
It is?

Speaker 4 (08:27):
There was like a fridge magnet that they dropped off
and you put it on your fridge and then it
had the list of all the things that you needed
to get ready. I think it was like water, torches, batteries,
things like that. Oh yeah, and the.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Six years supply of food boy kebble Actually boy Kible
didn't exist, well did exists, but it wasn't called boy.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Kibble boy kebble.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yeah, And I just so the theory was that all
of the computers around the world ran off. They just
used the last two digits of whatever year it was,
so nineteen ninety nine was just represented as ninety nine.
And the worry was that when that tipped over to
zero zero, the computer might think that eighteen hundred I
don't exist and just basically self destruct people. I remember

(09:09):
our the cash machine in our town ran out of
cash because everyone was withdrawing all of their cash in
case they couldn't access it when the computers went down,
So everyone withdrew basically their entire bank accounts.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
It was had cash.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, it was a brave It was a brave person
who flew over that period. Yeah, because everyone was terrified
that the planes were just going to fall out of
the sky.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
And I wouldn't have flown.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
No, Like I wasn't worried that the whole world was
going to stop, but I was interested to see what
did happen.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
My parents.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
They withdrew as much cash as they possibly could. They
brought as many batteries as they possibly could. I believed
the batteries lasted. They had a supply till about twenty fifteen. Wow,
they had torches. They filled up chest freezers, which is
stupid because then if the power runs out, then that
was me. And at that point all of their kids
lived away from home to three kids. And they're like,

(09:58):
but you know that when everything turns off, you guys
just drive to us and you hunker down and will
have everything you guys need. I don't think it's going
to happen now.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Guns.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Do they have guns ready to go? No, because that
you'd need that. They should have thought of that.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
It's okay, they got gold now, so they're fine. They're fine.
They got golden eventually done quite well about.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
They have and beaties and probably presumably a dolphin tortual too.
I me and my dad we went for New Year's Eve.
We went up the porthills and christ Church and we
camped up in the porthills so that we could see
out over the entirety of christ Church, so that when
the whole world rapture came. When the rapture came, we
would be able to see all the lights shutting off

(10:39):
and the fisher open up in the middle of the city,
and you know, sating themselves to emerge.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, you were camping out for armageddon. We're camping out
for Armageddon. We're like, we want to watch it. We
have the best view of this summer there was. That
was there was that.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
My only other memory is we did a Y two
K themed concert at the local theater. All the schools united.
This is what it took to get all the schools together.
And those days was like peace in the Middle East.
And I remember distinctly the guy who was dressed up
as the white t u K bug. They made a
big costume for him, is a wetter, the big fat wetter.
He went out there. We sung six months in a

(11:13):
leaky boat. Kaylee Bell got up and sung a song
presumably by.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Herself, and nothing happened, no, nothing, nothing, happened.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
No, I was at a massive party up in Topel Bay,
and I don't remember much from that party. Boy was
eying out of it. But the next day woke up
and did I even wake up?

Speaker 1 (11:33):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
I just cranked it the whole way through. But next
day things were fine. Yeah, absolutely fine. He would have thought,
not a single plane, fellow of this guy. No, not
a single computer didn't work. I mean not a single computer.
I had some weird software that I put through all
of my things that it was weird.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
It was a big industry. George Bush won George W.
Bush won the US election that year, controversial on recount.
What's the decision? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Yeah, PlayStation two, GameCube and the Nintendo sixty four came
out in that same year, and Lord of the Rings filming.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Was in full swing. How Wellington was going on. It
was massive year.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
And that is old Dude's name years for Thursday, the
sixteenth of April twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, twenty six years ago, two thousand. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Do you remember the first song you heard in this millennium?

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, it would have been some house music. I'd say
mine was the darkness. I believe in the thing called love.

Speaker 8 (12:34):
Jerry in the night, the hold Ikey Breakfast, We're about.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
White t K before And I asked, so if she knew.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Anything about White Quake she was born after it, and
she nodded her head and said yes. But when I
walked out there, she was like, I thought, you're talking
about the fashion style, which is very in at the moment.
And then she goes, then when you started talking about
computers and stuff, you lost me.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
What's the white two k fesshion style? Dressing like people
did two thousand?

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yes, yeah, dresses every day anyway.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Skoots over the top of jeans, skoots over the top
of pants, were.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Going there, Short sleeved t shirts, over long sleeved t shirts.
Oh yeah, give me Zoe for ten points, low rise jeans.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Oh yeah, I'm out now, Okay, yeah, I gotcha. It's
a It was a cool It was a cool time.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
There was a was it that's been I'm gonna be
honest as the most surprising fashion dream to have come
back around again.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
The mullet, the kind of the slightly longer for a guy,
the mullet, but short through the sides, but kind of
spiky on top, like the spiky.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Mullet spikey was a real big thing back then, wasn't it.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
I got served up a bunch of ads from back
in the early two thousands, which is a real throwback,
or the remember the fresh up ads. Yes, there was
the one where poor among Siver was on there with
the had the wooden spurn in his mouth, smacking his
flatmate's head with the spurn, and then the flat mat
put his head down and the mate belts at them
with the Then the other one where they're flatmate, And

(14:05):
you couldn't make this ad these days. The female flatmate
went and had a shower. They pulled the couch over
to the door of the bathroom and then called their
own phone landline so that when it rung, she came
out of the shower.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah, you couldn't probably do that now. I couldn't make
that these days, could you?

Speaker 3 (14:19):
No?

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Good times?

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Good times the early two thousands, weren't they coming up?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
You did your best work in the other day.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
I left a lot of myself in the early two thousands,
to be honest.

Speaker 8 (14:29):
Jerry Andman the Hotarchy Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I'm VI later sport headlines thanks to export Ultra the
beer for here the football Ferns will head to Brazil
next year to compete at their seventh Women's World Cup.
They've beaten Papua New Guinea one nlt Oceani a qualifying
final suck at Panjit The lone goal came in the
fifty fifth minute.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Katie Kitching was it?

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, it was Katie Kitchen. It was a Katie Kitching
hitter actually Auckland's North Harbor Stadium. So the result kepped
a dominant qualifying campaign. The Football Ferns scored twenty five
goals without conceding.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
That's pretty good. That's that's a pretty good four and
against record, isn't it? Twenty five and none. Also, if
you were ever going to go to a Football World
Cup anywhere in the world, would there be anywhere better
to go than Brazil? Would that not be the coolest
place to go and play a football World Cup?

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Oh man, that'd be sick in every way, shape and
formulat the football mayor country.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yes, beautiful, yes, people and beaches but also people on
those beaches. So that's that's absolutely incredible.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
And Sucket Panja and butt lift butler go over there
and see the butlert. Yeah, said the butlerft.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Auckland Cricket chairman Brendan Gibson believes they might not be
the sole benefactor to them move away from Eden.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Parksh I saw the so.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Auckland Cricket and Auckland Rugby are moving away. So that's
the Aces and the NBC team, I believe.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
But the Blues are the rugby going to? Yeah, rugby's
going to.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
They're shifting to Colin Mayden Park. Yeah, that's the rugby
which is in g I, which is receiving a ten
million dollar revamp. Sorry, that's the cricket that includes a
new and indoor facilities on improving the embankment.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Now that's the one that is surrounded as girt by Sea,
is it not?

Speaker 3 (16:07):
It's not good by It's not good by Sea. No,
it's not good by Sea. It's it's on Merton Road.
It's heading down towards Point England.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Oh okay, now I was thinking of us singing of
a different one that was good by Sea.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
The what is.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Obviously it's it's famous. It's famous in advance Australia fairy.
He uses the word god. You're the first person I've heard.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
I use it all the time.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
I always think about whenever they Whenever I hear that line,
I think about landlocked countries and what they may or
may not.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Be girt by.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
I mean America, for example, the US is good is good.
I mean, I guess they say by it from.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Good by Sea. Yeah, and we're good by sea. We're
good bye.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
See we're an Ireland, but we're Australia's I mean that's
a big island.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I suppose we're good as hell.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Gibson says the upgraded Oval could also serve as a
potential T twenty franchise team.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
I don't think it's long for the Blues leave that
day either.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
I just think that that stadium in a lot of
stadia around our country were built in a different time
where people will all going to those games. But now
we don't have need for a fifty thousand sedar in
this country, let alone one in just about every town.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Well here's the problem. Every now and then you do
need a fifty thousand cedar.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
You need one or two for the All Blacks, but
that's about it.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
But most of the time the old fifty thousand cedar
doesn't look good. But it's only got twenty thousand on it.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Looks real bad and they're going to figure something out there.
I think bring back the like one whole stand of
Eden Park could just be take the seats out and
just have bar leiners and just set it up.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Like a pup.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
So you're going to reduce the capacity by like a
seventy percent, but the people, they all actually have a
good time.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
I say, bring back Buck and worry. Aaron Clark has
extended his time with the NRL League Club through to
the end of twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
That's good news.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
He converted from a hooker well in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Excuse me? Was he doing?

Speaker 3 (17:53):
That?

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Was he and was.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Named as the competition's Premier lock last year. Clark's determined
to go further.

Speaker 9 (18:00):
The type of player was last year was just give
me the ball and run and try to get us
on the front foot where the modern thirteen you want
to be the link between your half back and the middle.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
So that's what I'm trying to do this year. Become
the modern thirteen and we're going to be talking to
Warriors Alli Leah Tower before seven o'clock.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Record to talking to them, I wouldn't know what it's
like to stand on a rugby league field and watch
Roger two of us.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
As ship indeed rugby league legend.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Absolutely smoke someone into touch that must fill your confidence
so much?

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Could we get him in here to do that? To
get the show on the front foot.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Jeremie Wells and the nice to It the Darchy Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
This morning I arrived at Workfellas and there was an
unholy mess in the kitchen. Where about who is here overnight?
Where was there someone doing the night cheft? Who does
the night shift?

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Is a great prebble? Was it prebble?

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Because whenever I flicked the if I ever flick Radiohodacky
on it ad obscure hour.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Greg Pribble. I hear a lot of Greg Pribble. I
hear too much from Greg Press the Weekend, et cetera,
and needs to shut up.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
I arrived this morning and there was crap all over
the bench. I think what they need to do, you know,
with the with these new cards or new system that
we've got getting in and out of the doors and stuff,
they're gonna be able to tell who was going where
and what was happening.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
They can.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, because yeah, I arrived in this morning and on
the bench was this disgusting smell. It was a whole
lot of sticky crap, like a sort of a fluidy
kind of thing. And then I went to put my
my mourning Milo. I went to put my morning Milo
in the microwave and it's all for this liquid is
all through the microwave. It's on the floor.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
What color is it?

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Ah, I don't want to say this, but it's like
it's like male body fluid.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
In the microwave. That's what it looked like.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Remember when we found pubes on the desk here in
the studio and we contacted the powers that be and
we check the records to see who had come in
or out of the studio at that time.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
We'd probably do it.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Again, So it's some well, I mean, look, we leave
it about eleven o'clock in the morning, so we don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
It could be anyone even but I mean, I just
don't think anyone would have made that mess during work
hours and not cleaned it up. It's okay, sometimes you
make it mess someone's head. Someone's had a shocker basically
in the kitchen, and then they just haven't cleaned it up.
That for me, there's nothing wrong with having a shoka.
No I've seen a couple of people have some shockers
in that kitchen. I've been associated with some shockers in

(20:29):
that kitchen. But immediately you clean it up. That's just
the whole I don't know who doesn't.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Clean up their mess.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
There's been a lot of shockers head out in that kitchen.
There was the time where the milk was put back
in the fridge without the lid on it, and then
that was spilt.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
There was a long.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Period there, Jerry, I've gotta be honest with you, where
you were leaving the milk on the kit on the
table without the lid on. You were leaving it for
the next person. But then I was I think the
next person was also leaving it.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Right there was and there was no next person. Sometimes
there was.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
A point where there is a there is a train
in the kitchen ed in the office there that's connected
to some other drain, and it was bubbling back up
out of the thing.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
I've got to say thank God for that drain. That
drain gets a lot of use. You know a drain
that's on the floor of the kitchen. Most people never
use it. That drain there has been used multiple times.
I just think this is interesting because there's so much mess,
and I can I feel. What's happened is someone's someone's
put something in the microwave or something. It's exploded. Something

(21:27):
bad has happened, and then they've then moved it onto
the bench and then it's gone all over the it's
gone all over the bench, and somehow it's also gone
all over the floor, which.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Is crazy because you know, we don't have children or animals.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
In this office. That's what I was going to say.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
It's only adults that work here, so you would have
to think that someone who was raised indoors, Yeah, wouldn't
know to clean up after themselves.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Hold on, it's school holidays. It happened, Yeah, people, someone's
bought the I reckon. Someone who works at night has
brought their kid in and then there has put something
in the microwave for too long because they haven't been
on a presser buttons properly, and then they've spilt it
and then maybe they haven't told their parents or something.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
There's a few texts coming through pointing fingers.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
One of them said, g Lane, No, he's not here.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
He's not here this week, is he? No, he's been away.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Stuart has said this could be another one of those
Epstein moments where the system went down for those few
critical minutes.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'll be interested to know, Ashley. Yeah
three for three oh eight hundred, Hodaki and when no
one else is going to know what happened in this situation.
But my point is who doesn't clean up? Who doesn't
clean up?

Speaker 8 (22:35):
Jerry and Mini the hod Ikey Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
The Worrior is back at home this week after a
massive NRL win against the Storm in Melbourne. Attack on
the Titans on Saturday afternoon. The team that has surprised him.
I suppose you'd say in the last few years, the
Gold Coast team have won six of their last eight
games against us. And joining us on the phone now
senter Ali Latawa, get Ali.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
How are you? Hey? Guys?

Speaker 9 (23:02):
Not good? Thank you good, thank you, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's the story, hey, talk us through.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
I mean, there was about a twenty minute period there
in that second half where you guys were just not
just beating the Melbourne Storm but belting them. When you
are on the field with someone like Roger toy Vasushiko,
I presume you watched growing up and then you see
him just bash Warbrick and de touched.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
What does that feel like for a team.

Speaker 9 (23:25):
No, it's it's just it's just cool to see. Like
obviously in the last twenty minutes you kind of spin
on your energy. But when you see something like that,
it just it just pumps you up. And we kind
of talked about it during the week, was just energy
and how can we individually bring energy to the team,
And then seeing Roger just pull something like that, it
just it just pumped up all the boys and he

(23:48):
kind of seen the last twenty minutes there was a
few big, big hits there.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Now the fence went up and yeah, it's like you
boys hit smelled blood in the water. I want to
get in on this.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
When you when you watch Chanelle go in there and
put her head on their prop and then their proper
run away afterwards, that must get the boys pretty fast up.

Speaker 9 (24:08):
Yeah, no, it does. You can see there's a little
scuffle in there, which is obviously you don't want to
see that, but it's good that everyone has each other's back.
But yeah, man, far we all know Chanelle can can
put a head on and saw Roger and then the
mechecked it on his man. Yeah, like you said, everyone
was just everyone was out hunting, and yeah, there was

(24:29):
a bit of blood in the water. I didn't really
get in the action for that, but it was good.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
It's a good way to describe itt blood in the water.
It's a tough turnaround each week, isn't it, because obviously
you're playing. Every game is a big game in the NRL.
That's the way it does. There's no easy weeks. Do
you get time to go out and celebrate after a
win like that against the Storm? I mean, what it
had been seventeen games that the Storm had beaten the
Warriors historically.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Was it time to celebrate?

Speaker 9 (24:56):
Yeah, Like, like there is, but it's warm. It's more
on the individual. Like obviously the like the coach is
not going to stop you, but it's just about being
smart around it and just just just knowing your body
and and just knowing what's next. So like there is,
but Aaron just like Aaron's in a good place and

(25:17):
Aaron just chooses, you know, what's better to just you know, rest,
take care of the body, and you know, there it
was a good win. It's a it's a it's a
long season, so you know, you don't want to be
celebrating too.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, look it from us WA.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
I had to turn on victory into a loss by
celebrating to here radio had I was just done a
little bit of a google as Ali Teddy's your uncle.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Is that right?

Speaker 9 (25:43):
Yep, yep, yeah, he's my uncle. So that's why I'm
named after. That's my mom's brother.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Ah did he did he give you a few tips
in the backyard growing up?

Speaker 9 (25:54):
Yeah? Growing up he was because he was he was
in England for most most of when I was going up,
But no, he would always call or he always Yeah,
he'll always be in my heard, just just just telling
me some tips. But now he's backing up. Now he's
back home, so yeah, I see him more often. So
he's always on my ear, just just giving me a

(26:16):
few tips, which is always good.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Is it about daunting having the Michael Jordan of Rugby
Leagies your uncle?

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Oh uh, I.

Speaker 10 (26:23):
Think it's pretty cool.

Speaker 9 (26:24):
But obviously some some big shoes to fill club shoes.
But no, I think I'm just more proud to be
able to say I'm you know, that's family.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, we're talking to Ali le Tower, I say, as well. Here,
I'm looking at the website. There's no nickname for you.
You're you're the one person Ali who doesn't seem to
have a nickname down here on the on the team lights.

Speaker 9 (26:48):
Nah No it's not. Yeah then the name for me yet.
There's a few that goes around at the club, but
it's not very inny good ones.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, you can't sell them on the radio.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Well, thanks for talking to us, Best of luck for
the game this weekend against the Titans.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Will be watching. We're right in behind you.

Speaker 9 (27:11):
Thanks so much, gys, thanks for all the support.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
It's a pleasure.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
That's Ali lair Tower who's playing this weekend against the
Gold Coast Titans.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
What day set the afternoon Saturday, five pm? Yes, so
it's doozy. This weekend really sets his Saturday out, doesn't
It really tough to get to if you got to
work on a Saturday. But AnyWho, they're going to give
them hell and potentially give them another hiding, just like
last week.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Coming up after seven o'clock, Ryan Fox guythe joins us
on the show.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
She's been a sporting half hour.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
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Hdarchy Breakfast Jerry and Mania.

Speaker 8 (27:44):
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Speaker 2 (27:46):
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Speaker 3 (27:51):
Masters has just finished at Augusta National our guy Ryan Fox,
things didn't go as well for him, probably as he
would have liked. Things went very well for Rory McRoy,
those second Masters in a row for him.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yeah, but I heard he was flying there every day
for like three weeks in the lead up, so it
would have been tough.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Well, he had another hand. You know.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
It's like when you go and play someone at their
own home course and then they be course you should.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, Ryan Fox joins us now on the phone. Ryan,
how are you and morning boys?

Speaker 10 (28:23):
Yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Is that the general vibe that Roy McRoy cheated his
way to a second grand jacket?

Speaker 10 (28:30):
Not at all. I mean everyone has the opportunity to
go up there. I think I could have gone up
like five, five or six times before the Masters have played,
and obviously Rory's got the scope to do it with
his own jet, and you know, he picked his own schedule,
so like it's cool, we all get it. Like he's
a defeating champion, he can do whatever he wants. And

(28:51):
then obviously it worked for him again this year.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, didn't.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
It's it's such a cool I mean it's obviously as
a fan, it's one of the pinnacle sporting events that
you want to go through that I don't have their
phones on them. There's all the old school pricing and
the colors of things you get to wear and blah
blah blah. What's it like as a tournament to play?
And compared to the other PGS stoves.

Speaker 10 (29:12):
It's amazing. I mean, look, first of all, Augusta's like
Hallow Grounds to golf, right, it's got that feel about it.
The event is different. And then yeah, you put in
all those like little rules that they have, which by
themselves some of them seem a little bit stupid, but
you put the whole package together and it's just brilliant.
Like the fact that you walk down the fairway no

(29:33):
one's yelling dumb shit at you. That's helpful, which it
tends to be a general theme in America unfortunately. You know,
the no phones is brilliant. You know, people are actually
engaged in watching and part of it, like for us,
it feels like it feels like a British crowd, like
they're quite knowledgeable golf fans in the UK and Ireland,

(29:55):
like if you had a good if you had a
five nine to forty five feet fifty feet, but it's
where you're trying to at it. You get this like
little appreciative clap like, yeah, okay, that was a good shot.
It's not close, but it's still a good shot. And
the Masters has got that feel about it and everyone's
just excited to be there, and you know, you see
people walking around with way too many merch bags and
stuff like that, like it's just cool.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
What about the track itself, is it fun to play
on versus as a you know, quite it's obviously quite
a hard course to play as well.

Speaker 10 (30:26):
I would say socially, it's really fun to play on.
It's you know, there's lots of slopes. It's it's really interesting.
And then you get it in the Masters and they
trick it up and the greens obviously get really firm
and fast, they tuck all the flags, they mow every
bit of grass back into you, which just makes everything
like a little bit hard. It's just it's I wouldn't

(30:49):
say playing in a tournament's fun. Playing in the tournament's stressful.
You feel like you're right on a nice stage the
whole time, like if you hit good shots, you can
make a score. But if you hit bad shots, it
comes back to bite you really quickly, which I found
out very quickly on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
So you didn't make the cart Unfortunately. Do you stay
on and watch or do you bugger off in that situation?

Speaker 10 (31:10):
So I stayed on. I did. Marcus, my coach, was
up there, so we did some practice on Saturday morning,
went to the gym. They've got that great new player
facility there that you know was all through the media,
and that was amazing to stay at. My brother in
law and sister in law were up, so my brother
in law was mad on golf, so he went over
the weekend. We're all staying in the house together. Had
a bunch of mates come up, so decided to go

(31:32):
get really drunk with them on Saturday. Then then I
went back to the golf course on Sunday morning, jumped
in the sauna and the ice bath, so sort of
wake myself up a little bit, and then we drove
down to drive down to Hilton Head on Sunday afternoon,
so I watched the watch the final bit of the
goal for the last nine holes down here at Hilton Head.

(31:54):
My brother and sister in law stayed on, all my
mates stayed on and watched the Sunday And yes, like
a couple of years ago, I probably would have stayed
on and actually gone and watched the whole thing live.
But you know, after being there a couple of times
and playing it, you know, I think I felt like
I needed to get out of Dodge a little bit.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
We're doing to Ryan Fox? Can we golf? For what's
the deal?

Speaker 3 (32:16):
I know that even as a Master's champ, apparently you've
got to play with a member or something who who
gets like the nine, the nine fifteen tea time on
a Saturday morning?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
How does all that stuff work there?

Speaker 10 (32:30):
Honest honestly, like no one knows. Like the members might know,
but they're not going to tell you. Like it's I
know one thing, it's a golf club. Only like you
go there to play golf. You might I've got a
plenty of accommodation to stay over night and play golf
and have dinner and stuff like that, but there's nothing else.
There's no like, hey, I'm just going to go there
and hit balls to practice or anything like that. Like

(32:52):
it is a golf club to go and play golf
got your warm up range and you know, are putting
green to warm up on. And that's kind of it.
And yeah, like I have no idea how tea times work.
I know for us when we go and play, we
can book around without a member if you're in the
master's field and they just say, hey, look I want
to play on Thursday, whatever the date is, and they'll go, okay,

(33:13):
well your window of arrivals like seven thirty to eight am,
and we'll get you out on the golf course at
eight thirty ish and then you just kind of turn up,
hit a few balls and I tell you, okay, mister Fox,
it's your time to go, and you're like, okay, I'm
going to go. I'm not going to puss anyone else.
It's that pretty much how it works.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
It's super interesting.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Hey, Ryan, can you just hold on the line for
a second, as we've just got to play a song
and I've got a couple of questions that I really
want to ask you regarding your kidney.

Speaker 8 (33:39):
Jerryam the night the hold I keep breakfast.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
You're talking to Ryan Fox, golfer Foxy, thanks for talking
to us. Just a quick question, how's the how's the kidney? Going,
I know you had kidney stones heading into the Masters,
How did it go in the end, I'm told that
kidney stones are incredibly painful.

Speaker 10 (33:58):
Oh yeah, it wasn't any fun whatsoever. Morphine didn't work
at one stage. I ended up on a sentinel one morning,
which was great. It wasn't obviously, it wasn't obviously great
for other things, but it did dub the pain quite nicely.
But yeah, I was in the hospital like three separate

(34:18):
times in a forty eight hour period, and the third
time they're like, you know, three strikes, you're out. Basically
you're not going to pass the thing naturally, and they
shoved a laser somewhere where it shouldn't go and app
them out and put a stint, and then you know
that I had that into like eight days, and you
know that there was some pissing raisor blades and some
blood and some various other weird stuff going on there.

(34:40):
So it wasn't. Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't recommend them
to anyone. So yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
It was.

Speaker 10 (34:47):
It wasn't great preparation. And the frustrating thing was I
felt like I was playing really really well going into
the Players, like I was probably as as high in
confidence as I've been in my golf game for a
very long time, and then you know, teen days about
touching a club, and I was probably about as low
and confidence heading into the Masters as I've been in
a long time. So yeah, but frustrating timing wise, but

(35:08):
you know, it is what it is. There wasn't anything
overly serious long term. It just yeah, it sucked for
a week there or so and took a little bit
to get the body right again. But yeah, no long
lasting complications thankfully.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Oh that's good. Just negli timing.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
I mean, I've never prepared for a professional golf tournament,
but I can't imagine what you've just described as on
the cards leading into a tournament.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
So what's the next tournament for you? Now?

Speaker 10 (35:34):
I'm at Hiltonhead, which is the RBC Heritage, you know,
pretty long standing event on a PGA tour, generally been
the event after the Masters for a long time. It's
an elevated event. Thankfully, there's no cut this week either,
so I get four rounds at least. And it's a
pretty cool part of the world and a very tricky
golf course, very tight and tree lined and narrow and

(35:57):
very different than Augusta was last week, but one of
the fun week's on tour. You know, you stay on
this little island, you drive everywhere. There's nice beaches, nice weather,
plenty of alligators, plenty of snakes, you know that kind
of stuff. But like a cool week to bring family to.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Yeah, you mentioned it's a fun one to play. You
obviously play out there and peerings and groups. When you
look down and see who you're playing partners are, who
are the guys that you're like, oh, yes, I'm playing
with this fellow this week.

Speaker 10 (36:24):
Like generally like the South African boys and apart from
a there's a rugby test going on, but yeah, like
they're my best mates on tour. So like Garrik, I go,
Eric van Ryan, Christian Bozaden, how like we've got lots
in common with those guys. Yeah, a lot of a
lot of the Europeans as well, Like guys that I've
played in Europe was before coming to the PG tour.

(36:45):
You know, guys like Bobby Mack and Victor Hoveland, those
guys like they're enjoyable to play with, guys I know
pretty well and can you have a chat with basically
like most guys are good, Like, there's not too many
guys on tour. If I get picking with someone, I'm
gonna be like, oh damn, this is going to suck.
Most guys are I'm pretty happy with, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
So you like to have a bit of a chat
while you're while you're playing.

Speaker 10 (37:09):
Yeah, well, I mean you've played with me. I love
a chat.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yeah, I can imagine you're being pretty relaxed. But I've
played also in a couple of tournaments before and it's
a serious It's it's like people are really serious for
like five and a half hours. It's quite full on it.
You've got to concentrate so much.

Speaker 10 (37:25):
Yeah, but you've got to switch on and off. Like
you can't concentrate for five and a half hours. You've
kind of just, you know, switch on like three or
four minutes around when you're hitting your shot and stuff
or even less. And you know, the rest of the
time you're walking around and you've got to have someone
to talk to, like my you know, my caddy South African.
We've got plenty in common as well, So I chat

(37:46):
to him a but again, because the rugby Test going on,
I give him a wide berth because he tends to
love winding up at the moment. But yeah, it's uh,
you know, you're out there for four to five hours
most of the time, Like it's pretty boring. If you
keep yourself and try to concentrate the whole time, it
just kind of doesn't work. So yeah, I like having
a chat talking to people, and like most guys are

(38:07):
the same for the most part. Like some guys might
kick themselves, but if you talk to them, they will
talk back. And yeah, I talk enough to just force
people to talk back.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Hey, did you have any moment on Did you have
any situation when you're on the fentannel when you thought
like some kind of mental breakthrough about anything. I've heard
that some people can have those on Fentanel.

Speaker 10 (38:26):
No I didn't, but I did have one where the
surgeon came in just before the procedure and he's like,
have you talked to the anethetist And I was like, no,
I haven't, And my wife's like, what do you mean
you haven't She came in half an hour ago. I
was like, oh, I don't remember that at all. So
there was a little bit of that going on. But yeah,
in terms of in terms of pain. It did work

(38:47):
pretty well.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
For that, I understand it's pretty effective, right Fox, Thank
you so much for your time.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Always great to chat pleasure guys.

Speaker 10 (38:55):
Thank you.

Speaker 11 (38:57):
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Speaker 2 (39:06):
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Speaker 3 (39:11):
So, the Fisheries Amendment Bill is before Parliament at the
moment and according to nonprofit organization Legacy, it contains proposals
that threaten the future of our fisheries. And to tell
us more, we've got the Gem of Legacy on the phone,
Sam Welford.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Thanks for your time. Sam.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Firstly, for people who don't know anything about this, what
is the Fishery's Amendment Bill?

Speaker 12 (39:34):
What it is? It's a big question basically, if I
can really summarize its simply, they want to prioritize seafood
exports over the sustainability of our fisheries. And they want
to actually prioritize seafood exports over pewe's opportunity to go
up there to catch a feed and feed our families.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
So how are they doing that?

Speaker 12 (39:56):
The basically removing regulations that impede the productivity of the
seafood sector. That's the official lie. What they're doing is
they're going to legalize things like dumping and discarding the
fish and sea. So the other day there's a big
hooha the fact that there's no minimum size limits for
commission call fish. It's the relevant because what happens is
as they're fishing, if they catch a baby fish, it's

(40:18):
going to be legal for them just to chuck it
over the side. There's going to be They're going to
make it really hard for the public really challenge ministerial
decisions in court. You know, they're actually going to remove
public consultation from future fisheries decisions. So not only are
they going to kind of smash into the fisheries, but
they're also going to make it harder for the kbc
of to say.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Okay, so if they get if they catch something that's
undersized now, which they must do when you when you're
trawling or when you're using these nets, what happens to
the undersized fish.

Speaker 12 (40:44):
Now basically it just gets weighted. So they're literally legalizing
the the worst part of these a list women and
fishing techniques.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
So but if I'm just an average punter, out there
on my on my boat and I catch an undersized fish,
I would be punished for that, but these big industrial
fishing birds won't.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Is that how that works?

Speaker 5 (41:07):
Well?

Speaker 12 (41:08):
Yeah, pretty much so. I think I think we if
we just put it back another tier. There's a real
problem with how we fish and we're using bottom falling,
skull dridging and a areas, using some really destructive fishing methods.
So rather than address the wastage in the way that
we're fishing, they're just trying to legalize it. And you're right,
I mean key, we hate inequity. That the idea that

(41:28):
we can't catch a fish but they can. It just
doesn't sit right with the key we weight bluff.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
Well, particularly if you're out on the water watching them
do it right when right next to them, you can't
do it with your one line, you know, I know,
it doesn't seem doesn't seem right. So why in your
mind are they doing this? Is this just a cash grab?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Basically? Yep?

Speaker 12 (41:47):
I think that's the app is the short term they
there's a chance they're going to make more money out
of it. It's all about if we cut to the
tast as they can sump and discard fish that are
low economic value. That means that they can catch fish,
keep fishing and catch fish they're by economic value. But
therein lies the problem.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Right.

Speaker 12 (42:06):
If you fish harder, you're going to do more damage,
and that also means that you're going to have less
productivity in the picture because you've the fishery is not
as healthy, So you're gonna have to keep fishing harder
in order to find those higher man you fish. Now
we find ourselves in a doom loop.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
We're talking to Sam Alford, He's the gem of legacy.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Sam.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
What's your vibe on because I've heard a number of
different things. I do a bit of fishing myself, recreational fishing,
and I've heard a lot of things that because we
all know that there's less fish now out there than
there used to be, say forty or fifty years ago,
everyone agrees on that. But is it because there's more
people who are fishing recreationally? Is it because of environmental damage?

(42:45):
Is it because there's more commercial fishing going on? Is
it because we're allowing overseas people to commercially fish?

Speaker 5 (42:51):
What is it?

Speaker 12 (42:54):
It's probably a culmination of all of those things. There's
not a lot of international boats coming into our waters.
There might be supproaching, but that's a bit of an exception.
It's the fact that we're systematically degraded the environment is
a kind of more scientific hunter, and it's a combination
of things. Yes, the population is increasing, but we know

(43:14):
that the recreational harvest is about six thousand tons a year,
whereas for the commercial insure it's just like you're snippy,
you can fish that sort of thing. It's about one
hundred and twelve thousand tons. So we export about ninety
percent of the fish we catch commercially, and basically we
are literally taking too much out of the water, and
through that the health of the environment's degrading, which means

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that the productivity decreases as well. So we're systematically just
kind of chipping away at it. The way I kind
of explain it is if you've got principle on the bank,
so you get your money in the bank and you
just take the interest out, that money stays the same, right,
But if you just suddenly start chipping into that principle,
it just gets down down their interest decreases as well.
That's kind of what we're doing with the fisheries.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
So if I'm listening to this and I'm thinking this
is this is not right, this can't go through.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
What can I do?

Speaker 12 (44:05):
Well, what we need everybody to do is they need
to get onto the Parliamentary website and have you say,
we've got three weeks to make a submission on what's
going on with this legislation. Closest on the twenty ninth
of April. You can either go to Legacy dot coda
and zed We've got a submission form builder where you
got straight to the parliament your website and then get
stuck in and make sure that you hear your say.
One of the worst things about this is actually they're

(44:28):
going to look to remove public consultation from future Pistori's decisions,
So this could be the last time to check. Get
ten sales from this stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Sam Wilford, GM of Legacy, thanks for your time this morning.

Speaker 12 (44:37):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (44:37):
Gentlemen, Jerry and Miniah, the hold I key breakfast.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Time for it's academic. We'll ask you five questions. All
you need to do is get three correct when a
fifty dollars bullings vouch you and get your school's name
etched into the vaunted it's academic role of honor.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Totong And Boys College, hap Valley Memorial, Queen Elizabeth College, Newland,
Shuirle Boy's Times, Do Sacred Heart, McKenzie College, Frances Douglas Memorial,
Saint John's College, Hamiltons and is Aukland Times to Stratford
Times to run he at a high school, Fugaday Boys,
Times to White tag you boys saying Kendigan's head of
Tonge College could have no college forriest fore you high school?

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Talking about Ashburton College.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
I don't know who High School, Wimere College, Colston Boys,
Napy Boys High, Camo High School in Southland Boys.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
It's the much vaunted pre recorded list of all of
the high schools on the role of honor.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah, just say for me. But a breathwork on a Thursday,
isn't it? Does? Zaye from Old Martin to the show.

Speaker 8 (45:24):
Good morning, gentlemen, are good.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
You're an electrician. You went to Parmei North Boys High.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
I did any famous exports from public? Good Rugby School?
Isn't it pame North Boys High?

Speaker 12 (45:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (45:36):
Yeah, Well, when I was there, we had.

Speaker 7 (45:38):
People like let's seems who ended up being he was
a Tom and Printing at Becoming played for Wigan.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
I remember him, yeah, Greg Young, Yes, Desmond, Greig Will
He used to sit next to me on school bus.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
A lot of good cricketers as well there, Zay.

Speaker 8 (46:00):
Yeah, okay, you're not going to name any of those.

Speaker 12 (46:02):
But I didn't do a forty colo gon walked to
raise money for the new back of pavilion though when
I was there.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Who had a great cricket oval Parmesan North Boys Hide.
We played them a couple of times and.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
We never won against them anyway.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Zane, you know how this works, don't You've just got
to get three questions correct out of five and you
win yourself a fifty dollar Buddies about your plus. Palmerston
North Boys High School goes on to the much vaunted
it's academic role of honor.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Listen, thought Christian one.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
And cricket into your host the IPL who hosts the
BPL and you no, it's Bangladesh who had the nineteen
ninety nine hit song Shake your Bombo?

Speaker 1 (46:50):
That song again, Shake your Bombo? I might really have
that one, neither mine. Ricky Martin, what was it You're
going to get these three correct?

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Here?

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Zaying?

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Come on, What was the name of will Smith's uncle
on the fresh Prince of Bellier, George? It was, Yeah,
I don't think I don't think Zame's going to get this.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Dane Ah, Yeah, it's uncle Phil.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Unfortunately, you can't win now because there's only two more
questions which I think you'll probably get right. In which
city would you find the suburb Malty, Hell, it's to me.
And who imprisoned Princess Leah and forced her to wear
a gold bikini?

Speaker 1 (47:48):
And the return of the Jedivaded I was going to say,
George Lucas.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Army North Boys still does not find its way on
to the much vaunted NAOD academic.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Good rugby players, good cricketers, but Dongey coming up after
eight o'clock.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Jerry's Theories, where we ask a question and you have
to guess what I think.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
The answer to it is, I'm looking ahead, begun downstairs again.

Speaker 8 (48:20):
They go on Jerry in the Night, the hold I
keep Breakfast.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
I'm for Jerry's Theories. Fifty dollars Bunnings voucher up for grabs.
All you have to do is tell us what you think.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Jerry thinks.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
The answer is to one of life's burning questions. In
the past, we've had such riveting questions as what percentage
of Kiwi adults have sent.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Nude where I thought four point two percent.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
What percentage of Kiwis does Jerry think of with the
bed as an adult?

Speaker 3 (48:44):
I thought seventy one percent. That was a good one,
that one, seventy one percent, because you've got old people
coming in. Yeah, you know, oh if you get away obviously, yeah,
you might have whet the bed in the fire truck
situation when you post eighteen, but then your chances are
you're probably gonna whit the bed year old.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
It's right.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
So seventy one percent, and they're much to the dismay
of my mother who was listening at the time.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
How many sexual partners does Jerry think Mania has had.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
I thought you probably had eleven, considering that you found
love on a bus at eighteen.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
And the beautiful part of it is will never know.
And also I'm saving myself for marriage. Sure.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Now, we have in the past been accused of being
two downstairs focused on particularly this segment generally the show.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
The allegations that seem to follow me around wherever I go.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
That's right, and so for a while there we we
sort of we veered off a little bit. You know,
we went into things like when was the backflip performed?
You know, who's eating sam and blah blah blah. But
what I want you to know New Zealand is we're back.
We are so back this morning. Today's question, how many
keyis does Jerry think have feed the chickens in the
past week?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yep, this is an interesting one, isn't it. So this
is male and female. Do you consider it feeding the
chickens when a female performs it? Jerry? Few chickens. No, No,
I think that's a completely different thing. That's the pony
you were saying.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Yep, that's right, that's feeding the pony. That's different. So
feeding the chickens is a male thing.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Will you? Will you?

Speaker 3 (50:12):
So let's let's get to the point where you'd be.
It's fifty fifty, isn't it the Actually I think it's forty.
As a mandra I think it's forty nine percent of
New Zealand is a male and I think fifty one
a female.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
Okay, So straight off the rep you're eliminating fifty percent
of the population. Yep, of fifty one, yeah, fifty one okay,
so we started from a baseline of forty nine percent.

Speaker 7 (50:31):
Would you consider you've talked about eliminating fifty percent of
the population. What if you use someone else to feed
the chickens? Great, great questions. Someone just ticks, that's not
feeding the chickens.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
Someone just takes that, and well he wants to know,
what if someone's feeding my chickens?

Speaker 3 (50:44):
No, no, no, no, no, that's not feeding the chicken
And I was very clear about this worth Sir john
Key when I asked him this question years ago on
this very radio show. Have you feed the chickens in
the last month, Prime Minister? And he was saying, well,
to give his way around it, and well, I'm on
the road a lot basically that that Broner had involved.

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But I was like, no, that's not what he's it.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Yeah, yeah, he did. He brought Broner into it. D
junk Are, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
I believe it's the first time anyone's ever asked a
sitting premiere whether or not they have fed the chickens
in the.

Speaker 7 (51:19):
Last month or people have asked Shane Jones obviously because
he had that famous incident with the credit card and
the motel.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yeah, yeah, And so he's obviously.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
He Well, let's be honest, I think most people probably
have so, okay, so that's a little hint there. Okay,
how many Kiwis have fed the chickens in the past
week as a percentage, a month week as a percentage?

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Give us a text three four eight three. You all
feel free to give us a call, though eight hundred Hoder,
we don't.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Have to use your name on it.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
You're going to have to get into some basic gemographics here,
because obviously you probably exclude children under a certain age
and then probably adults over a certain age.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Do you think so? I don't so, Actually I don't know.
I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I need
to have a people out.

Speaker 9 (52:06):
Well.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
I listened to stone Teble Pilots three four eight three
closest to the pen Wins.

Speaker 8 (52:11):
Jerry and Minnie the Hotarchy Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
We are currently involved in Jerry's theories where you have
to guess what I think the answer to a question is.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Today's question is we're returning back to our roots and
we're going downstairs. What percentage of Kiwis have feed the
chickens in the past week? What percentage of keys does
Jerry think have feed the chickens of the past week.
Now you've immediately thrown fifty one percent of the population out.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Yea, because fifty percent can't feed the chickens, they do
something else. Yes, all right, so we're at forty nine
percent to start with. Scratch there, people got are coming
in with sixty eight percent and seventy one seventy one?

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Are you joking? Texter? I mean, how can that? How
can that be?

Speaker 4 (52:48):
That's maybe they're just thinking seventy one percent of males? Okay,
but yeah, so a few a few questions. As always,
people want to interrogate the criteria here, Jerry definition, Is
it going to ground? That's from even crazy that you
put your name on the end of that tip.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Is it going to ground? Yeah? What the feed?

Speaker 3 (53:10):
No, it could go, it could go anywhere. Okay, I
don't think that's important, is it? I don't hate, I
don't completion, right, that's but who starts and doesn't complete?

Speaker 8 (53:18):
What?

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Who starts and doesn't? Does anyone? Ever? Never?

Speaker 7 (53:22):
The reason that I asked that question off here was
because one of the criteria that's coming what about jerrym
and I what about.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
People aged over eighty?

Speaker 7 (53:30):
And I thought I can imagine maybe someone that's a
little bit older, that maybe doesn't have all their faculties.
Maybe they'll start and not.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Completely not complete.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Oh right, okay, right, so the demented. Are we talking
about the demented? Because sometimes I do understand with particular
types of dementia, you descend back into your teenage career,
go back into your teenage, you become a bit of
a horn dogs.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Well, they'll make up for the stats what they What
about if you were walking your dogs in a Wistokland
beach found eighteen bricks of cocaine and then they found
twenty bricks of cocaine.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Only reported eighteen of them.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Okay, then you might potentially start and not finishes what
you were saying there.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, okay, this is probably.

Speaker 10 (54:08):
Think of that.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Look, that's a very small percentage.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Joe.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
I think we're in the points when we get into
that territory.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
James is texted and there's a question that we've just answered,
but it's important to ask again, are you including women
in this jeering?

Speaker 1 (54:20):
No, Jerry doesn't include women in most things.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
No, that's that's obvious. So it's going to be less
than forty nine. Put it that way, yeah, and then
could I also say that I'm going to eliminate the
very young.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
So let's just be conservative and say, don't say a number.
I just I'm going to warn you against it. Let's
just all say young, you know what I'm saying. I
know exactly what you're saying. Okay, I just don't think
any of us want to throw a number.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
All right, fair enough, And I'm also eliminating the very old. Yeah,
very young, very old, So basic demographics. You've got to
start from that point.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
I could someone who's really old reach out because I'd
love to know is there is there enough?

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Is there enough a limit? I think there is someone
wants to know.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
In the interest of equal opportunities, what will next next
week's question be, I guess you'll have to churn into.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Eighteen sixty nine, sixty eight eight? What do you know?

Speaker 4 (55:16):
I've explained that there's like it's got to be below
forty nine, twenty twenty five. I'm just desperately trying to
preread these before I read them into a microphone because
some of them are a little bit heyyah.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Eighty two ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Essentially, it's it's basic demographics. What percentage of the people
between the age of very young and very old AH
would be doing this type of thing once a week?

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Great question here from Nick, who probably didn't want me
to say his name.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
I'm good for three times a day. Does that bring
up the average? No, as just if you've done it
once at least once? Yeah, okay, sixteen point twenty six percent,
Tim Kinshell is working. Are we counting half fed chickens
not finished or interrupted or fully fed? I know I'm
saying it's going to be completion that Now, this is
a confusing text. It does using an automatic feeder count.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
An automatic feeder?

Speaker 8 (56:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:13):
I think, oh yeah, so are you saying that's but
I see why road is excited about that.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
In another text here we're discussing elderly dementsire patients engaging
in self pleasure.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Truly top Radio.

Speaker 8 (56:30):
Jerry and Mini the hold Ikey Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
What percentage of kiwis have feed the chickens in the
past week? And I've said before that it's forty nine
percent of New Zealanders to start with, because this is
a male only thing, yep, it's not female. That's not sexist,
by the way, that's that's just in terms of practicalities,
and it's by definition of the term feeding the chickens.

(56:53):
And for me, just so before three for three by
the way, there's still time to get in on this
in terms of a percentage. For me, it's not about
who has, but who hasn't. Out of that forty nine percent, who.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Hasn't, Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this is a
case of not who has, but who hasn't.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
So obviously you've got very young, Yes, you've got very old.
You've got demented, you've got the sick and infirm. These
are the reasons why you wouldn't shout out to the
demented community. By the way, Yeah, the way laid. You know,
the people been waylaid for all so interrupted.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Maybe the group chats popped off while they're in the
middle of using their phone, you know what I mean.
It's like, hey, fellas fellow, stop some people injured.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
I remember once when I fell off my bike, for example,
I broke did not only broke my arm, but also
grazed all of my hands. I wasn't doing anything. Yeah,
for a long period of time. Actually, I wonder if
kidney stones for you that action yes, the inebriated, and
normally you'd only be inebriated so for a couple of
days and you probably then go, you know, but some
people are inebriated for a long period of time just

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don't have the time. There's the overly serviced. Let's not
forget about those people.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
They're on cool down. Well, just so.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Heavily serviced that there's just no need for any self
service but for a week though, yeah, heavily service like
this is so one more question.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Sorry, it's just come through. Does it include keywis living overseas?
Are you including that the diaspora?

Speaker 1 (58:22):
No, I'm not. I know you've got to be living
a New Zealand a resident. Yeah, you've got to be
a resident.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
We're currently residing with an address and I will need
proof of that address. All right, So I have come
to a number, and my number is I believe eighteen
percent of.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
New Zealanders have feed the chicken out in the past week.
That means closest to the pen is Kieren, Good morning, Kieren.
What was your years?

Speaker 10 (58:52):
I had sixteen point seventy five.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Okay, Kieren, quick pull around the room.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Yeah yeah, Karen, Yeah, yep, yeah, there all right, all right,
goodratulate yourself for fifty dollars.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Bartings about to congratulations.

Speaker 11 (59:08):
Jerry and Midnight the hold Ikey Breakfast. Jerry and the Night,
the hold Ikey Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
It's time for vulnerability corner. Well we open the door
and go into a little vulnerable space.

Speaker 10 (59:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
So the article came through into the group chat yesterday
men have no mates at forty because I called that
is that what the name is called?

Speaker 4 (59:30):
You've got no mates and you're forty? And we thought,
you know what, this is a great idea. Let's get
someone on to talk about it. But we couldn't find anyone.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
I don't none of us really know anyone that we're
close enough too that we could ask to come on
the radio show to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
No, and you're not even forty yet, which is a
real concern for you.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
I know, but I've been forty for a while. I
haven't known for honest, you've been forty since I first
met you. Actually, and you what you were twenty three
or something like this.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
This is a super interesting I read I read this
article the other day and I thought, this is super
interesting and a lot of people will I I don't
know a lot of people will, I think, feel the
same way that I do about this. So the article
said emotional this is this is basically what it says.
It's worth reading. Emotional self sufficiency is the cornerstone of
the key we male experience. That's an interesting thing, the

(01:00:12):
emotion get sufficiency. Don't complain, Yes, learn to sort out yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Figure it out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
I'm doing it with my son at the moment, who's fourteen.
I'm saying, look, you've got to be self sufficient. You've
got to be able to cook for yourself. You've got
to be able to look after yourself. You've got to
be able to do things yourself. Be capable, self reliant, independent,
and nobody likes a non capable male. So it's a
skill that our fathers and grandfather's taught us. Be tough,
don't rely on anyone else, figure out your problems by yourself.

(01:00:41):
At various points throughout my thirty sis, the author I
fell into a trap of emotional self sufficiency. Friendships would
fade away as everybody's kids took over a huge part
of it, because it's it requires so much energy when
you have little kids, and if you're there for your family,
something's got to give. You can't be one hundred percent

(01:01:01):
there for your family, and you need to be one
hundred percent there I for your family and partner, And
I say partner is an important part of that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
It's the triangle of like, work, family, social life. You
can only have two corners of that triangle at any
given time.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Came you, exactly, I reckon to have three going and be.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
Committed to give, and be committed to fully to all three.
One of them is going to give generally the social life.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Yeah, so the author said, when forty was creeping up,
I made a change. I wanted a handful of very
close male friends I could rely on. I'd clocked my
self sufficiency as detrimental and I did something about it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
They say, so they didn't need a couple, don't you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
You definitely start, I think with way more when you're
in your twenties, because you're going out and you're socializing,
you're meeting a whole lot of new people.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Flatting, you're living with your mates.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Yeah, if you're at UNI, like we lived in a
complex where we had five flat mates and there were
twelve of those flats and one little complex.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Yeah, but then you do a bit of pruning as
time goes on. Because also some you realize don't make
things better. Some create problems for you. So you're like, well,
i'll prone those ones. You don't want them, especially not
when you've when you're dealing with a family. I think
the family is the big two. I think that happens
for most people in their thirties. But anyway, he was

(01:02:17):
talking about mistakes that people make. Mistake one, I don't
need social media anymore. That's quite interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Hold on, is that a mistake? Yeah, apparently a mistake.
So you do need social media.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Well, apparently it's a way. It's a way of getting
in a connectation.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Mistake too, I don't have time or energy. Yeah, Mistake three.
My partner organizes my social life.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I think a lot of people are in that situation.
I'm definitely in that situation. Yeah, I think that's really
I find that really good.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
That's a really good thing. I'm really pleased it does
he does that for me. Mistake for work is the
only friend I need.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
There we go, that one's a problem because that only
socialized with their work friends.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
Yeah, it's funny because that does became when you ever
look at yourself as an adult, when you're over a
certain age, you and like, who are your closest friends.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
It's generally the people that you work with, which you
can't have that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Yeah, and then I'll see them when I see them, guys. Sorry,
I'll see them when I said them. But that's a
lot of friendships. A testament to that that you can
have long term friendships, particularly as males, and you might
see that person, you might service that friendship, but when
you still see them, you still it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
You're in You're twenty straight back up. Yeah, you know,
which is a great thing. So what's the fix? How
do we fix it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
I don't know, because the same issue with emotional self
sufficiency is the same reason that people say that we
are not talking about our mental health enough.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
To me, they're the same. They're just different versions of
the same thing. So can you have one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Emotional self sufficiency without the other, which is a slight closedness? No,
you know, and then when something bad happens, all of
a sudden, you've shut a few of those doors that
you need open again.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Oh so I really thought we
were going to fix this stall. What are we looking for?

Speaker 8 (01:03:58):
That.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Well, I think the fix is probably is probably making
is actually going out of you and making time. Yeah,
making time and making sure that you do activities with
your friends and stay connected with your friends through activity.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
All right, Well, should go.

Speaker 8 (01:04:12):
To the pub, Jerry and the Hoodlarky breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
The sad news yesterday Mona Pacific announcing they will fold
at the end of the current Super Rugby season, saying
it was no longer viable to compete in the competition.
To talk us through this to disgrace former Holander now
Sky Sport commentator Joey Wheeler, it is that true, joe
will Morena pacifica fold in that situation.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Not are you a disgraced former hander?

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
We know that. Yeah, both are true. Yeah, it doesn't
love good for Wine Pacific. Obviously, through the current owners,
they do not have the funds to be able to
participate in the twenty twenty seven Super Rugby unless an
injection comes from or some capital comes from another third

(01:05:00):
party to invest in the side. And that's to the
tune of ten to twelve mils. So if I'm looking
at anyone in this conversation, it's probably you, Jerry, that
could be the savior.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
Propellar of the Pacific Island community. It's pretty sad for
the Mound of Civica competition. You would have to say, though, Joey,
they've been posting a lot of talent that would otherwise
gone to the Highland. Is this if we're looking at
silver lining, it's just good for the Landers.

Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
I do look at it that way, because yeah, I
suppose in some respects you look at the side and
the purpose of this side, and what it was originally
formed to do was to promote Pacific Island talent, which
then in turn was meant to hopefully strengthen the Samoan
national sites and also the Thingland national side. That hasn't happened,

(01:05:52):
and that's for a multitude of reasons. But I do
think being based in Auckland hasn't helped this situation.

Speaker 10 (01:05:58):
I don't know, off the.

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
Top my head how many games I've actually played in
the Islands. I can only think of maybe three off
the top of my head where I've actually played in
Sama or Tonga, and I think in turn that's an
effect obviously on those sides. So it essentially has been
an extension of the New Zealand Super Rugby franchises and

(01:06:20):
a sixth New Zealand team, and yeah, there will be
some players that will get absorbed by New Zealand sides,
but that's the Obviously, the worrying part of this is
that you've got probably fifty to sixty individuals that are
now potentially out of employment for next year, which is
really sad.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
For oh Minor Pacific A c. Debbie Sorenson reckons that
League has been part of the problem, particularly the way
that someone and Tongan communities are involved with League.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
What are you reckon about that? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
No, I agree League is proving to be an achilles
heel for rugby especially. They've got huge budgets, huge marketing budgets,
and they just seem to be everywhere at the moment.
Like I don't I'm not sure how their broadcast rights
work in terms of the share going back to each

(01:07:10):
individual club, but I would imagine that let's say the
Warriors would get a share of that massive broadcast deal
that they have with FOPS and Channel nine and the likes,
which helps then attract and retain talent in their competition,
Whereas on the flip side, if you look at the
Super Rugby competition, that's controlled by the national union, So

(01:07:31):
all the money that is generated out of the broadcast
rights for Super Rugby goes straight back to the likes
of the Australian Rugby Union and the New Zealand Rugby
Union then control that which then control that purse, which
means that New Zealand rugby franchises only have a limited
amount of resource in terms of attracting and retaining talent.

(01:07:53):
So I think from a competition perspective, to be a
genuine franchise competition, they probably need to look how it's
structured in the first place if they really want to
take it back to its heights of the premiere rugby
competition in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Yeah, it has come along way.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
I think one of the biggest issues with Rugby League
and Minor pacifica is that they couldn't play any of
their games out of Mount Smart They've basically been an orphan,
you know, They've been playing in North Harbor, They've been
all over the place.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Yeah, so where are there fans exactly?

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
And it's hard enough to bring any how many Super
rugby franchises have we seen, you know, particularly the South
African ones come into the comp and fall out it's
a really hard thing to do, let alone, in the
face of all the adversity that they've had. Is it
just too hard Joe to introduce a new Super Rugby franchise?

Speaker 10 (01:08:41):
Yes to no.

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
I think if you look at some of the success
stories that Super Rugby have in terms of teams that
have been introduced to the competition, I think the Haguardes
are from Argentina. Obviously before they got Benmen out of
the competition pre COVID, they made the final and lost
to the Your Crusaders night down in christ Church, which
is always going to be inevitable. And then you look

(01:09:06):
at the sun Wolves as well, and they were a
little bit similar to Onana Pacifica and that they were
slightly they had two homes, they had Singapore and Japan,
but their Japan fan base was huge, like they were
getting upwards of fifteen to twenty thousand fans into their games,
so they weren't struggling from a fan base perspective. I

(01:09:27):
think what you've seen with Wana Pacifica is they haven't
had a home. They've been all over the shop down
and pooky over a mount smart North Harbert Stadium like
you mentioned, and yeah, they're probably a bit like the
Highlander is everyone's second favorite team, but they haven't been
able to take games back to the Islands, back to
their people to connect with them, but also haven't really

(01:09:48):
been able to capture a loyal and kind of fanatical
fan base that will turn up in their droves. But
maybe last year where they probably got a reasonable crowd,
but reasonable crowds to North Harbor Stadium on the back
of some outstanding performance from one artie Savi, which also helped.

(01:10:09):
But they, you know, they whether they got to return
on that investment. From from a crowd perspective, only the
bean calenders will be able to tell you that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Joey Wheeler disgraced Formerharland.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Thank you so much for your time this morning. Appreciate
your insight and I.

Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
Look forward to you swalling into Milana Pacific HQ today
and running it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
If only I had twelve dollars, that would be good.

Speaker 11 (01:10:33):
That's Joey Wheeler, Jerry and Leni the hold Ikey Breakfast,
Jerry and Mini the hold Ikey Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
We're talking earlier about dudes not having any mates after forty.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
It's hard man like, I think even at thirty four
and I attributed it to living in a big city,
but it's hard to like, hey, you free on Saturday?
Should we go for a bit? I can't do this Saturday,
but I can do next out. Well, that's no good
to me. And now you're an hour away, and then
how are we going to drive by the beer? Then
how do I get back to wherever I go? I
don't even have kids yet.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Yeah, well, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
The more dependents you get, the less time you have
four friendships. Ultimately, something has to give. You talked earlier before,
and are about the triangle, which is obviously work, family,
and then friends, which is pretty much most people's lives.
And then you incorporate activities around that. But they're based
around people basically.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
But the paradoxes, you've only got enough just to do
two of those. It's hard to do three. You can
never do all three of them.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
So if you are working hard at your job and
you are committing one hundred percent of your family, it's
often your social circle that falls behind.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Well, that's a few and you've got to commit to
your job because otherwise you won't have a job to
have any money for your family.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
That's right, but I mean so for example, like you
entirely neglect your family and so your social circuit, but you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Also mother than it works. I'm not doing any three
of them. Well I'm failing at all three level. Yeah,
but that but that is a thing.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
It's a it's a thing for dudes, and it really
had a nerve with this. In fact, this guy takes
it and Jesus really hitting a nerve with a thirty
seven year old with two kids under four.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Ye, that's you're in the trenches there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Yeah, you're in the trenches thirty seven with two kids
under four.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Unrelenting. No, it takes a lot of energy. She's no holiday.
You don't get to just wake up and be like,
you know, I don't feel like it today. Yeah, okay, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
He says that he still plays Last Man Stands with
the unimates and we go to the North Coat Tavern
with a couple of dad's mates to watch the rugby
fills the cup enough but rely on group chats to
make it happen. See, yeah, I got that's good. See
he's you've got it sussed man. You've got to keep
those going, yes, you know, but I reckon Yeah, I
reckon that guy though, he's doing it. He's doing it well,

(01:12:44):
but I bet he's got an understanding partner. Yeah, you
know what I mean to be doing to be still
to have two kids under four and still be still
able to still be able to do hobbies and stuff
because someone's looking after those kids and it's not him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
In those moments, I can relate to that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
On forty three or too kids, not enough time to socialize,
all my mates are in the same boat and seeing
the group of mates I used to hang with as
few and far between.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Yeah. I actually had a friend of mine text and
said something quite interesting. He's got a theory. He reckons
that's this is the biggest argument for the four day
work week. So he reckons you should everybody should have
a three day weekend, and part of that three day
weekend should be one day for friends, one day for family,
and then one day for personal admin.

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
Brilliant Friday, Saturday Sunday. So Friday friends, yep, go to
the pub whatever. Saturday, family day, family day, go to
the park, and then Sunday map up any admin that
you need to.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Do five loads of washing, deep clean the house, reset
for the week, go to the supermart of the soup,
do the lawns, the lawns.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Why can't we do that? I feel like, who doesn't
want to do that? Who doesn't want to work four
days and have three days off?

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
One apart from business owners. Some business owners, I mean
some jobs. You'll have to like this job. For example,
you've got to turn up five days a week. That's okay, Yeah,
that's right, and we'll I'm willing to do that. I'd
like to turn days a week, would you? In fact,
sometimes I do. Sometimes I turn up seven if I could.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Man, that's true. They won't let me. They turn my
card off on the weekends. That's not true. I comment
a the you worked too hard. So everyone says to me, Man,
they're like, Jesus, I don't know how you do it.
I listened to you. I tuned in at six am,
tuned in again at nine thirty. You still going.

Speaker 7 (01:14:16):
And when it comes to work. When I have often
said your weaknesses that you care to my scars, remind
me here the sticks here. When things get tough, I
just go fishing. It sorts out all problems. We'll see
how your marriage goes. In about ten years.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Jerry and Maniah manage the radio show from six till
ten weekdays, the Hurdarcky Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
End of the show time time to do a bit
of breathing and show some gratitude.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Who wants to start first? Ruder?

Speaker 7 (01:14:45):
I just want to say I am very, very grateful
for We've talked a bit about mate this morning, our
friends of the show that have turned up today. Ryan
Fox fantastic from over in America. Joe Wheeler came on
just before to talk about wine and PACIFICA and you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Friend of the show, Aliawa. How good was he a
big fan? What a great guy? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Can I the word is not bandied about a lot recently,
but it's something that's important. Gentleman. Can I say he's
a gentleman?

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
A gentleman? The music stops, and can I just say,
and I need the music under me for this? A
real credit to his parents, Yeah, a real credit to
his family. They can be proud as we all are.

Speaker 7 (01:15:27):
I liked the way that because quite often we'll get
guests that are busy and they've got things on in
their lives, and they might talk to us on their
way to something or while they're getting ready. But he
had obviously got to training early knew that he was
going to be talking to us, had parked up and
was just ready for our call, which, to be fair,
we were also a couple of minutes lateful.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Look yes or just looking out of the front of
my own head here seeing this from my own lens.
Was he hiding from training and using media as a
high and high? I don't think he was. Did they
test for that stuff? I mean, you can go back
and listen to to ask these questions.

Speaker 7 (01:16:06):
I find thank your own judgments.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
And yeah please.

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
This obviously had a nerve for us because today I'm
grateful to my mates because we talked about it, probably
too late in the show Man, need to go over
it again tomorrow, but we really stumbled upon how hard
it is to stay in touch as you age, particularly
for dudes. This is why there's like a male loneliness epidemic,
particularly in this country. So if I can get open,

(01:16:32):
honest and vulnerable with you guys, for Bert, sure, can
I give my mates to shout out?

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Please? All right? Shout out to Richie yea is he yep?

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
Bears m Yeah, Pine Tree, great guy, Fitzi, Zenny Yeah, Body,
Guzler Yeah, Boulders, Nisbo.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
TJ. Stlow and Fatty. I just wanted to give them
some are closer you mates, some my closest mates.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
Richie as he bears pine Tree fits, He's any body, Guzzler, Boulders, Nisbird, TJ.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Steller and Fatty shout out to you. I'll be seeing
you soon.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
I'm grateful to the sun God Miriam, the Earth God
by Whomba, and the water God Clive for giving us life.
I'm going right back to basics. I'm going all the
way back. Also, I'd like to give gratitude to my parents,
Sheryl and John for the love that sparked me into existence.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Jeremy Wells and the Nie Stewart. Find them on Instagram
at Hodarchi Breakfast, the hold

Speaker 8 (01:17:54):
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