April 15, 2026 • 40 mins
Today on the podcast we go through a few more potential new names for the podcast, and we're joined by comedian Tim Batt.
He came in to talk about his upcoming Comedy Festival shows in Wellington and Auckland, abut the chat went very political...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Daily bespoke content that you won't find on the radio
show The Herd I Keep Breakfast podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome along. Tim Batt, comedian is going to join us
a little bit later on in the podcast. He has
got a new show coming out in May. It's called
Eternal Optimist. It's fearless, it's funny. It's a hopeful hour
about New Zealand politics and the chaotic joys of Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Former producer of this show.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Never this show, but definitely the Matt Hack Drive Show.
I'm shot by Matt Heath with a T shirt canon.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Honestly, probably traumatic experience for him in the throat might
be the hardest I've ever laughed at a YouTube video.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, it ended up on everywhere around the world, that thing.
I don't think that the Ironies, I don't think they
owned the clip. I don't think he ended up getting
paid for that, despite the fact he just about Keith
just about killed him. He got him in the throat
with a T shirt from quite close range.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, the we'll chuck the video on the cog Glover.
That is one of my favorite. Obviously very traumatic for Tim.
Maybe we'll address it with.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
But he's happy to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
That's the way he goes, not the face. Not the
face right in the throat.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Is that way?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
It sounds like Darren Lockey. You now, yeah, that's that way.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So may he's still with us, Thank goodness.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Update on the name of the podcast we've been looking for.
We've been investigating a new name for the podcast. We've
been tasked with growing the podcast, and so I think
for I don't know if we've got fans of the podcast.
I think we've got victims. And so the victims of
the podcast, they know what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
They we know what it is. I've got a growth strategy.
Just before we get onto the names, how about we
use the radio show where some people are listening. You know,
I certain amount of people listening to the radio show
to promote the fact that we've got a podcast. Have
you thought about this?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
That is a brilliant Well, I've only ever thought of
using the podcast to point people back to our radio show,
which was given to us from on high. We said,
what's the marketing strategy this year? And they said, you've
got a bunch of people that listen to your podcast,
said we do. They said, a lot of them don't know.
(02:11):
You guys do a radio show, and I said that's
not true.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
No, And the other part of that was there's way
more people that listen to the radio show than the podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Which is what you're saying now.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So I'm thinking that we can get more of the
it's like circular breathing, it just goes around that way.
We can get more of the people from the radio
show across to the podcast. Yes, because okay, the podcast
is like the radio show, but you can listen to
it whenever you want.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
And you can say caun't all the time you say
yoppers on the radio?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Or are you saying boomers heavy oppers?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I could have just been saying it to the person
walking past.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Were you even listening with you? Did you just say yoppers?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I've seen a couple of recently, Actually, I've seen a
couple of boomys.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Oh real, some real boomer yoppers, Saggie.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Um, I suppose if I didn't see.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Them, brales ah.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
But some real whoa, it's that's that must be full.
I'm dealing with that the whole time.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Have I told you about the boomer broadcaster that works
It might be a bit unfair to call her a boomer,
but she works in this building.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I don't want to say her name until boomcaster.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
The boomcaster who I was introduced to and had to
make a little bit of small talk, and she told
me that she had to give up on open ocean
swimming because boobs are two bagging, which is zipped the
wet suit up. They chucked her unconscious.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I know who you're talking about, same man and fear.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Interesting story.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It is an interesting story.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
It's nice of her to share.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Crazy for that to do the first thing you hear about.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Someone, nice of them, Sorry to share nice I want
to give I don't want to give them away or.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
What boomer station they work for. Okay, so names, Yes,
we had a bunch. We had a bunch that came
through and a few more that came through overnight. So
I'd like to share those with you now, Brad says,
late suggestion for the intro just the tip, just the tip,
(04:22):
I don't know. Shane said, not necessarily true, it's not bad.
Another couple of votes for the hold yoppers. Blake said, so,
I just want to throw my hat in the ring
before the final selection has made. Please and he said,
through a bunch of them, Oh yeah, that is a
strange Zoey's Boys.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Oh, Zoey's Boys.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I guess him ze Is By.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Oh yeah, I wish it I had zoe Is Bye.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
We kind of find some males like that, like Zoey's Boys.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
Mm hm.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Three blokes in the German In turn, come on the
Life of a Newsboy, The Tortured Alternative Broadcasters Society.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
The Tortured Alternative. I mean that's good. That is good,
but it's not it's a bit much.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
And then a few a couple of ripoffs of other podcasts.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Here in my Mouth.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Uh oh, that's a weird imagine. We called it the
I've got to hear in my mouth it is.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It is a bit like getting you here in your
mouth this podcast, isn't it. You can just get some
there and you can always get it out. I hope
it's you're not pleasant. Put it that way. It's not pleasant,
but you can deal with it. The Diary of a Newsboy. No,
that's a rap off with the Diary Oversea. It's well,
it's not it's not what it is is.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Call it a newsboy? What that's off the back of
caller Daddy Oh spiked Media Punch Courney once I think
we read this one years today. What about Sam said,
did you know these guys do a podcast? Was that
the first one I read out?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
No? No, no, you read that out off air before record?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Did you know that these guys do a podcast?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
These guys? Did you know that these guys do a podcast?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Because that was one of the issues that we have.
Does draw you in, doesn't it? Did you guys know
these guys also do a radio show? These guys always
do a radio show, the podcast Far Out.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Guys also do a radio show, the podcast. I quite
like that.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
These guys also a radio These guys also do a podcast, the.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Radio radio show.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
So these guys, Oh, that's quite good.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Because it's taking marketing and some advice from marketing, and
it's it's it's and it's saying exactly what it is.
It's direct.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Did you guys know these guys.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
These guys? Did you know?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Did you know these guys also do a radio show,
radio show, the podcast? You did you know these guys
the post radio?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Or would you say, did you know that these guys
do a radio show? Podcast? Oh, radio show, question Mark
podcast full stop like Capital podcast full Stop.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
It's the it's the did you know these guys also
do a radio show podcast, and it's the did you
know these guys also do a podcast?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Radio show? I think the question mark has to come
after podcast. Sorry, it has to come after a radio
show if it's so, we're talking about the name of
the podcast, right, So it's did you know that these
guys also do a radio show? Question mark capital P podcast?
Full stop? Because because if it doesn't, then it's a
(07:51):
radio show podcast. It's like, we don't do a radio
show podcast question mark? Where does the question mark go?
There needs to be a question mark that did you
have to have a question mark at the end of
that sentence?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
We shoulding because the other part of this is word
of mouth is going to be a big thing for.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Us taking deep breaths, So that's not a good signment
with the name. But nobody should have to take deep breaths. Well,
what I'm trying to say is that if the podcasts,
it's called it's a podcast, right. So, but but the
name of the podcast is did you know these guys
also do a radio show? So that's that's the sentence podcast.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Did you see the one from George there, George field Port,
Because we've got good taste and decency. Going through the
radio show, he said poor taste and indecency.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, I don't mind that poor taste and indecency. Is
it easy to say poor tasting, indecency protested poor taste
and indecency. We don't want something that's hard for people
to say. I've learned that the hard way. Anything that's
a difficult name that you can't remember, it's hard to say.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I know. This is this is where we get out ourselves.
This is where we put a stick in our own
spokes as we come up with something hilarious that we
think is really funny and then forget that people have
to read it or like say it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah. See, years ago I came up with a name
for the our Havoc show. It used to be called
the Old Have I had Havoc two thousand Deluxe. That
was he did that in nineteen ninety nine. He wanted
to call it Havoc two thousand Deluxe, which was it
was a good name. And then the next year I
came up with the name Havoc Luxury Suites and Conference Facility,
(09:33):
and we thought that was hilarious. It was so long
and stupid, but people couldn't sit. I like the name,
but it was I learned from that. It's like that's
too hard to people can't remember what it is. What
is it? Yeah? What is that?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
And then they just start calling it the show zoeboshas please,
Oh I don't have a name.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
But I think you just need to think really simple,
like someone who doesn't know anything. Yeah, you want them
to tune in, not like not our smart listeners who
already know the inside Jack know everything exactly, all that we're.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Trying to grow at Zoe exactly. That's what we're trying
to just kind of.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Grow, is amen. And so I think something really simple
that anyone can understand that, Like you, you read it
and you want to click on that even though you
have no idea who, no offense, who you guys are
or anything.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, if you want this podcast, I can't to grow.
You need to You need to know that it's going
in soil. Now, if you don't know that there's any soil,
how are you going to throw it?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Well, how do you know we're not running a hydroponic situation?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That's true, it could be hydroponics, and then we're not.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
We're definitely not.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Men have no mates after forty the podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It sounds too much like one of those ones that's
a victim me one. You know that around victim. We're
not victims. Do you know?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
What goes really well as women talking about? Six is
a really popular, really popular genre of podcasts, six dot podcast,
six dot life. Obviously that that's a New Zealand one
call it daddy. I think started out like that. I
think it's more of an interview thing. These days we call.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It six dot death. Not bad well.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I I've for the longest time wanted to start because
underrepresented in the podcast space is the male perspective on sex, right,
So I wanted to do a podcast called dudestt Rooting
Dude's Rooting dud dudes dot Routing. And it's the podcast
that doesn't come out quite as often as it would
like to.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Is it a gay podcast? Could be?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
So for example, for example, you know, maybe one week
it doesn't come out at all, and we hate we say, look, sorry, guys,
stack the dishwasher wrong? That podcast this week? Oh yeah,
I like that And the first episode we'll just start
getting going. Oh that seems like that's all we've got today.
Thanks for joining us for the first ever episode of duty.
(11:56):
But I don't have to. That's not really that's a
different podcast.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
I think that one even messaged and on socials, Yoppers
and Yeppers you know you is a bit inside joking.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yoppers is pretty inside joking. It's taking the wild by
storm though. Ye yeappers, the yeappers, Yeah, yeppers. Only dudes
and a.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Fro line line.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
What is that the name? Or just only dudes only.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Like only fans but only dudes? Eh, frow line.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Isn't that Spanish?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It's frank?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
All right? Well, look, we're still working on it. We're
still working through it. Maybe we take that.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Can we ask tim Bert? He might know he's got
an idea. Let's talk to him next.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
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Speaker 2 (13:01):
Award winning comedian and podcaster Timbette joins us on the
podcast right now. Welcome Tim.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
It's such a pleasure. How's everyone doing? Can you give
me an out of ten?
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Well, we've at the moment, I'm going to say eight. Yeah,
I'm home in the swimming I.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Mean there's eleven too much.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Wow, No, that's good for just a little less of
the night.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Nine and four you be honest.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Honestly seven and a half, just no, seven and a half.
It is only eight available to him. So that's a
good that's a high percent.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
We're not injured at the moment, which is good.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
For a while.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
No fools, what about you? Tim Well?
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Off the back of this incredible positivity, I'm righting high
on an eight. Now I walk down on a seven,
and you've got me to a beautif.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
We've been thinking about it, because we have been talking
about treating the week as a seven game series like
in the NBA. Love it, And what we have to
do to advance is win four games.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
So you know you'd have to think Friday and Saturday,
you talk, those are home games. You should win Friday
and Saturday.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
You're doing something, you know, pretty poor if you know.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Monday and Tuesday. There Monday. Some people think Sunday a
bit of an away games as well, because you know,
you get a lot of chues to do on Sunday
things like that, So.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Really get the Sunday scaries other people.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
So all you have to do is when two out
of the three of Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and then you've
won that week.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Wednesday is a bit of a gimmey. I would say,
you're at the top of the slope. You're looking downhill.
There's a lot to look forward to. Yeah, and also
you get you kind of like you entitle yourself to
a little treat.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I think on Wednesday you can I see the week
as a bell shaped curve. I was talking about this
earlier on and I think Wednesday is the top of
the bell shaped curve. So from then you can plomp
it into neutral and the rest of the week should
take you through to Friday.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
There we go.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
You know what's a shadd of though, is the Tuesday
Tuesdays just tough. But I think if you make your
peace with that that Wednesday is not for you and
you just kind of put your head down and you
bum up, maybe that's the approach.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, Tuesday, Tuesday is a scheduling loss, you know what
I mean. It's like the second night of a back
to back. You just played last night, now you're going
to play again on the Tuesday. It's like I'm just
circling that one. We're going to call that a loss,
take it for what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
And then carry on with that weak well as a man,
as a forty nine year old man, can I can?
I impart a piece of wisdom which I've learned over
my forty nine years, and that is, if you think
Tuesday is not going to be a good day, and
I agree normally Tuesday isn't. What you do is you
plan ahead and you schedule in things that are gonna
make your Tuesday a good day. Now, I don't, for example,
(15:39):
ever try to anyway shoot things on Tuesdays. So if
I'm going to do extra shoots for seven sharp you
work in TV, I say that, I say that Tuesday
that was getting wild. I say that Tuesday is a
day where I'm not going to be shooting on a Tuesday,
because I know that if I'm shooting on a Monday
(16:00):
and then I've got it, and then on the Monday, fuck,
I've got a shoot on a Tuesday as well, then
that's gonna tip me over. You either have a book
a sauna in for a Tuesday or or do or
say that you're not going to do anything so you
can sit down and have a read. You can read
a book. You just make Tuesday your.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Man not to be a decade jearing me, but there
are so few people in Tally who get to call
the shots on when you know what days they get to.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, no, because people always say to you, like when
you when you available in any situation. You know, I
think people say, what people you know, can we have
a meeting on Tuesday? And all you can say is no,
you can go. No, I can't know you can.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
But a lot of people get sacked when they do that.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Well, I was just changing the jack Tame and he
was I probably shouldn't. I'm blowing up a spot a
little bit because this was off here. But the desks
and there are quite low, like they're sort of uncomfortably low.
And I was like, surely you can tell someone and
your jeck Tame. You can get the you can get
the desks lifted a bit, so you know, you can
(16:58):
sort of sit slightly more comfortably in the place where
you're working all the time. He's like, no, no, no,
Hoskin could do it, but not may you checked?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Come on, brother, I know, but they share the desk
with Hosking. That's why you can't Husking. He's got sway, man.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
I know he does, but I think his methos has
grown a little bit disproportional and it's sort of distorted.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I think I don't listen to him.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
He's got a demi god status in New Zealand, which
I think is ill afforded and unhelpful well the country.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Well maybe unhelpful, but unfortunately. And you know, Tim back,
because you've worked in commercial radio, your currency is completely
proportionate to the amount of money that you bring in. Now,
if you if your show brings him like his forty
million dollars, then and that's you know, I don't know
(17:51):
that that's exactly the figure, but it's something like that.
Then if you leave, that leaves a forty million dollar
ten int your whole of revenue inside the company that
you So you've got some currency at that point. You're
going to keep that guy happy.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
We used to be an egalitarian society here in New Zealand.
Were used to be a little more even handed and brotherly.
You know, everyone was contributing. The unions are gone and
Hoskings calling the shots. The money.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I think everyone's got the essay, and I think I
actually think businesses nowadays, more people actually have more power
than they ever have had inside of businesses. You know,
people who are in lower paid jobs inside of businesses
can get rid of bosses if they really I've seen that,
(18:40):
there's a glint in your eye of the night. I've
seen it happen. To have sex with them. The best
way can you can get rid of people.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I was going to I was going to say the
example of Razors Robinson.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
That's an example, but then you said you have six with.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Them, and I was like, oh, we don't know all
the details.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
You know, that's true, we'll never read that review.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
That biography is probably not coming out for fifty years.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Sometimes it's hard, and now it's not easy to get
rid of someone, you know, it's it's certainly you're firing
people as a difficult process. Nowadays, it used to be
super easy. You literally used to say you're fired and
that was the end, and that person out gone a
TV show about that. Yeah, and there's still the way
in the States you can still fire people.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Well, it's tended to reality.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
It's easier now. The ninety day, no questions asked firings back.
Oh yeah, which I'm against.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Oh you don't like the ninety day, you don't like
the ninety day firing.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I'm a I'm a socialist at this point, but if
you're stuck with a whole lot of shit is figure
it out. You own the business, but then you don't
want to employ the shything to hire them in the
first place. Your practices like it's it's like the parenting thing, right.
I can't even remember if we were recording when we
were talking about that, but no one dropped the kids
off at your house. Yeah, you just you decided on this,
(19:58):
You chose this. It's your business. You do the hiring practices,
and you deal with the repercussions of the process you've
set in place. You've got a responsibility to the people
that you hire.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I agree, you do have responsibility of the people you hire.
I think we differ though in here because I think
that that inhibits people from hiring people. So if you
can't fire people, you won't hire people. And my feeling
is that a fluid labor force is better than a
stagnant labor force. And I think, particularly in a modern environment,
(20:29):
you've got to be able to move between jobs. And
if someone's a shitter, and I've seen I've worked with
some sh other ship is and you're like, that person
should be gone, but want to get rud.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
This person should be gone so we can't hire them.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
But were you care for about something? Well, what was it?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
That's right with the division of labor amongst when you're
per little kids.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
We're going from sort of the unions and the power
of the working force and when you see division of labor,
like this really is a different podcast than I expected.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
This is cool.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Just as it heads up, I'm reading a book at
the moment called Escape from Capitalism. Oh yeah, so you
know my head's in design.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, right, well, it would be good to escape from capitalism.
I mean, that's that's true. But this thing with you've
got a two year old and a four year old. Yeah,
and I reckon those first five years you were saying
that it's fun and you're enjoying it, which is great,
and I think that's such a good way to go
into it. I think for a lot of people it's
overwhelming because it's quite a large change in their life,
right absolutely. And then also nowadays with parenting because because
(21:34):
the divisions, the divisions aren't as clear cut as they
have been in the past, and now we've moved into
a different world.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Oh, everybody's a little bit though. I'm like, I don't
know why everyone's listening to everyone else. You know, the
signals about, oh, you're the man, so you've got to
unplug the drains or whatever. You're the woman, so you've
got to change the nep no one's in charge, you Like,
I've just always I've always found it a little but
weird all those signals that people get, and a little
bit concerned at how much people listen to other people.
(22:05):
I've just I don't know, for whatever reason, probably relate
to the fact that I'm a middle child and a
family of force. I'm just very used to slipping under
the radar and really not paying attention to what people
are telling me to do. Yeah, whatever, it's fine, Yeah,
I'll go and do my own thing. Like why are
you listening to that? Like why are you taking that
on board? Yeah, well make up your own rules. Yeah,
(22:27):
I follow you.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I think we do more now, you know. Yeah, I
think I think people do. I think there's any path
for anybody, which is great, it is that's capitalism which
has done that. But I think I don't think so.
I think communist countries generally are conservative in their role
divisions certainly historically.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Well, first of all, false dichotomy, I would argue, yeah,
because I'm more of a I would What I would
love to see is a little more socialism rather than communism.
I'm not for like a centralized government control, but I
am for more powerful the workers. That's good for everybody,
That's what except you're like six people who have a
billion dollars at the top and they're in charge of
here's the and the.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
People who have to work with shutters, Like the people
are on a team with a shudder who they can't
get rid of.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Well, let's get into it. Why are the people shiit?
What's shit about them?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I've got a theory that, because it's a long held theory,
particularly in New Zealand around politics, is no one wants
to do it, so the only people that do want
to do it a massive fucking wounders.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
I am one hundred percent on board.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
And it really feeds into like vain narcissism that anyone
would even fucking think they could do it lit alone,
that they would want to do it.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
They have to be insane to chase it as a job.
I know that people complain every time they get a
pay rise, and like, I get there, but it sucks.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
The jobs that sucks sucks.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
And we should want I kind of like, I don't
even know if this is true, but I've got this
vision of ancient Greece. When you became a senator, it
was because you were an old man convenuhere now but
like who had experience in an industry or or whatever
community building, and you you were giving back to your
society by contributing to the governance of it, a public
(24:08):
servant and that, yeah, yeah, exactly. And now it's like,
I don't know who wants that? Yeah, who wants who
wants to have every single thing that comes out of
their mouth? You known talked about by the country Nonstar's brutal.
It's horrible, It's brutal.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
I have it.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Just look at small town, New Zealand. Every other town
has a mir who's been there for thirty or forty
years because no one else wants to do if they
had a whip broad and said, anyone want to be
mirror about the fuck that?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, But the big part of it is that nobody's perfect.
And nowadays with the microscope and I'm talking about microscope
like you said, blah blah blah blah, and you tweeted
there were a.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Few sweeters from an upmarket ponts. Suddenly you're not allowed
to be an MP but.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Among us like two thousand and cement you tweeted this
in two thousand and seven said blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
I kind of get the sense of the pendulum standing
the swing the other way beout. I think we've all
had it. We've had it with that ship man.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
It still requires I think skin, doesn't it for anybody
to be involved in that. I thick skin with bugger
or money, But then the other hard work. It's hard work.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
The thick skin is what you need to get by.
But then what is it that motivates you to want
to do it? Yeah, that's why it promotes fuckds that
go unto those narcissism. Yeah, because otherwise why else would
you bother doing it?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Public service or narcissism. It could be the only only
those two things, right.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
You'll want to do The public service thing has to
be such an incredible drive in you to override all
of the awfulness of the job. And there are Look,
there are some good eggs in there. I think we
could probably you know, we would probably depict different people
of who our versions of who those people are. But
I think there are a lot of well intentioned people
in there. But I think you're right, and I the.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Incentives are for us to get involved, take it from me,
some of a microphone and cameras all day.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Is there no chance that it's some kind of malazed
like someone that absolutely has no idea what the fuck
they want to do with their life. And someone goes,
you'd be a great politician one day, and all of
a sudden, they just since you start locally, maybe they
only need to do twenty years a week and they
just sit in meetings and just they're quite happy just
watching other people. Yeah, b yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
But I mean, look, I know not everyone will share
this opinion, but I would make an argument that that
has been the career trajectory of my current prime minister, like, because.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
That is what a CEO is, right.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
It's kind of the dute who sits in a room
doesn't necessarily have a huge ideology of their own, but
is sort of there to make sure the graph's going
up quarter to quarter. And personally, I think that's why
we're seeing a little bit of a lack of communication
skills because I don't think there's a whole lot behind Jeremy.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
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Speaker 2 (26:58):
Well, I'm told that is not a lot of advice
being taken.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
I think, yeah, that's what I've been told.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
From people who are on the inside of that operation.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
You got to take the advice because well, the.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Theory from the top is from that particular person is
I'm here because I don't like politics, because people don't
want politicians and politics is rubbish, and I'm trying to
do anti politics. But the reality is it doesn't seem
that well, that doesn't. But also the reality is there's
good and bad things and everything.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
You can be trying to do something and not be
doing that thing at all. I'm trying to make a
good radio shirt and often.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
You had a peeler with the sixty forty thing with
your partner. I think another good idiom is what got
you here won't get you there. You've got to like
step up and evolve and change your skill set.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
And it's coming back to a test cricket analogy, because
what gets you, what gets you to the test side
rights is the way that you punish bad bowl or
the way that you play certain shots. Once you get
to the level up there, next thing, you know, those
bowlers can work you out and I just will not
bowl to your strengths. And so all of a sudden,
(28:10):
what got you to that, the strings that got you there,
you've got to evolve actually undo you because they'll put
people in fielding positions where you get caught all sorts
of stuff.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
You've got to track down Rachel Smally and you've got
to listen to what she has to say about how
you approach interviews with Jack Tame.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I don't think he's capable of I don't know. I
think he's capable of changing.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
He some people have kind of a limited bandwidth of
how much they can adapt.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I think I think people are I think I think
voters are actually very I reckon they're not as people think.
People give them not too much credit. But I think
people operate more on base instinct than what when they vote,
than what people.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Think a little bit into promoting my show, not at all,
Not at all. But this is an idea that I
try to like, I've tried to see it into my
comedy festival show this year. I to your point that
like politicians being over scrutinized, and it's a really terrible thing.
We've got to have more politicians on drugs. I've gotta
(29:12):
have more of everyone on drugs. And when i'd say
drugs specifically, I'm talking psychedelics, like non addictive psychedelics. I mean,
there is an argue for the productiveness of meth in
the short term, but I think the long term trader
probably isn't worth it. Hitler, who are you? I did
for a bet until it did it?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
No, I'm with it. Who are you when you peel
it all back?
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Man?
Speaker 5 (29:34):
This is my whole thing with David Seymour. So David
Seymour joins young Act when he's nineteen, flies to Canada,
gets involved with the right wing think tank there for years,
comes back, joins Act again as like a fully fledged politician.
You haven't even tried to analyze alternative points of view.
And you know what would really help with that? Some mushrooms,
(29:54):
My guy, an afternoon it's splendor on the grass, go
to the day out like live a little But because
we sort of do have these, you know, crazy expectations
for our politicians, which is stupid because sorry to break,
it's everyone literally everyone's on drugs, Like I do drugs
with teachers, lawyers, cops, broadcasters actually the one the one
(30:20):
industry would never engage.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Think.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
It's crazy to me that no one like admits it
or can talk about. So that's why as a comedian,
I'm like, I need to be an advocate for this
because it is underrepresented.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Well it's a problem if you say, okay, well you
if you take drugs or have taken drugs, you can't
be a politician. That's going to cut out a lot
of good people.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
Man.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
But that's basically what we're saying. I mean, our pro
min is there has not drunk an alcohol before.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
You're true? What about nandor is he not ever?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
No?
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Never? No never?
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I know.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
There's an interesting thing, isn't it When you say to
a whole lot of people, especially a consistent constituency like
New Zealand where most adults have tried alcohol once, and
you say I will never I reckon get him on
the show and say here's a beer.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
We're on the purse.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
No, we'll just drink it.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Have a sip, a little bit of it, a little
bit of preprepreciate. Actually, have a surmond it, have a sap.
Think it's got to tell.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Why wouldn't you have a sip?
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Yeah, because I don't. I don't want to trust the
keys of a country to someone who can't handle themselves
on four beers. And this is why I like Australia.
They simply wouldn't let it happen, you know, like it
would be just if someone put the hand up, was like,
I want to be the PM. By the way, I'm
a tee totaler.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Well, Trump's a tea totaler as well.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
I know.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
And this is the problem, the problem. Never never drunk,
he's never drunk, had never had a beer. His brother
was an alcoholic and drunk himself to death. Tea totaler.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I'm doing to wonder about Trump.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
You don't think you.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I don't know about trumps seaking thoughts. Yeah, I think
he's pretty good. So there's a few things that are starting.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
To bubble up that I'm like, I just yeah, I
keep coming back to the fact that man, someone someone's
got to advocate on behalf of acid and psilocybin and
kiddermine and the right quantities. Well, no, no, no, that's what
I'm saying. In the right quantities, I want everyone say, hey, listen.
The show that I'm doing is called a eternal Optimist.
(32:21):
I want everyone to have a good time. I'm not
here to you know, innkle tap anyone. I want everyone
uplifted and feeling good.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Because I've always thought it's been a long time since
we've had a leader in any country that you would
follow into battle, like if we were back in the
if we're back in the medieval days. Watch one of
our politicians longing, Yeah, muldone.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I used to I used to think long it was
something great. And then the more I've read and the
more I learn, the less impressive that man is.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
You're a bit of a student of New Zealand history. Jeremy,
what about Michael Joseph Savage? Would you follow him?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Michael Joseph Savages? It was about five.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
One, right, Nepole our very.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
But but I think Norm.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I don't know Big Norm again, and the more I
find out about Big Norm, the less I think. Very
physically you'd follow big norm man.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's from my hometown.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I mean, you know, someone like Helen Clark, you probably
follow her and like when she really fired up, and
you probably go, oh, yeah, okay, she'd be pretty she'd
be pretty terrifying with the baying in hand.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
I'd follow her in one hand.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Let's go, I probably wouldn't follow Lux and I definitely
wouldn't follow be honest. That's if you're if you're about
to storm the gates of Mortals so that Froder can
carry the ring unmolested into the fiery pets of mounta
Dome from which it came, and she's given you the
stir up and probably, hey, fellers, I don't know about this.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
That's fair, but you know, on a on a what
is it called scoring on a scale, if you're met
with that, or what I would say to you is,
you know, look what.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I would say to you, Look are we going to
win this war?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Productect?
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Look, I've got no personal problem with the Yorks. The
Orcs are doing their thing. We need to find a
way to work with the Yorks. Sometimes the Orks are bad, bro.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
We do a lot of trade with more to it,
all right, It's kind an interesting election this.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Year, isn't it that? Because you've got two essentially unpopular
people as the two main choices of people. Yeah, now
you're looking at twenty percent. Both have it both in
the in the early twenties. I bring that's quite low. WHOA,
that's a huge call. Milon Harris Rights will be the
one that benefits out of that. He'll be He'll be
(34:43):
the guy that because all of a sudden he looks
like quite a good time.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Well, he's already gone. I'm going full rowing populist because
I only need to capture eight percent of the vote
so I can say the most outrageous ship that ninety
two percent of the country disagree with.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
This is nothing, This is no. He disappears for three years,
you kind of don't hear from him, and then an
election gets announced and for six months all you hear
about is once he's.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Going to say the most of the game. I think
this will be the most shocking in the next few
months because he's the gates are wide open now for
just the most unhidden ship.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Shane Jones are going to run for his money. But
they're on the same.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Okay, so comedy comedy shows, that's.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Right, dude, it's important, man. I think like things are
tough at the moment. Things are genuinely tough. The economy
is in the shitter and just like everyone's being bombarded
with negative news, we're all addicted to our phones and stuff,
like there's a lot of bad stuff. I really I'd
love to see some people at my show, but more
specifically go to a show in the New Zealand Comedy
(35:50):
Festival because a unique feature of our festival versus some
international ones and I've just been doing all the Assie ones,
is it's not open entry. You have to apply to
be in it, which means you can take a punt
on any show in the fist because you actually have
to be at a pretty high part to get a
show in in New Zealand, and our comedians are truly
in New Zealand top shelf, world class. It has frustrated
(36:14):
me for a very long time that we don't film
more of our comedy. Yeah, because for up until very recently,
like we've got these sensational comedians and they do these
shows and then it just evaporates and no one kind
of knows about it.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
And then they pop up overseas and they're going really
good and.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
You yeah, like you know, everyone sort of knows the
Flight of the Concords and Race and Rose Matafao, but
even more recently like Saturday Night Live UK, Joseph Moore
is one of the head writers on there in Two Hearts,
he and Laura Daniel are like doing songs that are
now on IS and l and the whole world is
loving it. Yeah, and like that got made in terms
(36:50):
of their creative project here in New Zealand, they've been
doing shows for over a decade and honing their skills
and stuff and it's magic. But I just wish that
more people knew how good we were. And I know
that there's the tall poppy thing as well, where like
we don't want to big up our own guys too much,
but we got the goods.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
We have the goods here. We definitely do it. I mean,
look at what's happening in Australia now. It's like it's
all New Zealand comedians.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
We're really starting to piss them off. It's really well
luckily luckily for Mey Montgomery's got a little anchor baby here,
so yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Tony Lyle's on the a SEC. It's all going great
guns for the New Zealand comedy. At the moment, I
feel like, but you're right, do you almost need to
go overseas before? Can you one another? Enough? Gigs in
New Zealand and two are our comedians appreciated enough that.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
They here's the thing about New Zealand. We have the
respectfully the worst audiences. Like we're so quiet? Is this
for gigs as well? Like for music? I'm sure we've
all been togegs.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Like we've got nice homes. I've forgot a theory on this.
Go on, I've got a theory. We've got nice homes
in New Zealand. Like your home is a nice place
to be. Now, if you go to Barcelona, you're living
in a tiny little apartment, like tiny, and it's not
that nice. If you go to Hong Kong, you're living
in a tiny little partment. You go to Tokyo, you're living
in a tiny York New York.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
You spend no time at home in you know, you
want to be a city.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
You want to be out because the out is good, Yeah,
in our country and is good. The inner is good.
Your home is good. You've got like space, you've got
a backyard, a lot of the time, like you've got
you've got a tree. We've got a tree.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
We need to increase housing density to the point where
no one wants to be at home anymore and it's
going to improve our creativity.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
It's a it's a bit of a problem for us.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
It's even pubs, you know in the UK people go
to pubs because.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
It's they're escaping the house.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I'd rather drink it home. Yeah, yeah, often do it.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
It probably is something to that. But the flip side
of this is right, so New Zealand comedians, if you
stay in it, like if you've got the middle and
the desire to actually keep going and push through everyone
sucks and stand up for the first two years, like,
it's just it's a very weird thing to do. It's
an embarrassing pursuit. Quite frankly.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
No one can tell you how to do it either. Yeah,
I feel it is.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
And it's very different to like learning music or whatever.
You've got to be bad in front of an audience
to sharpen your skills, and the New Zealand they're the
hardest audiences in the world. But if you push through
and you're a New Zealand comedian. You have been training
with weights on and then you go to Australia and
you're like, people laugh at the love, they laugh at jokes. Incredible.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah, so it's just it's like the hardest training. It's
altitude training. You're basically doing altitude training by being in
New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
I think so that one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
That's a great theory.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
So it's like, you know, it's not it's not that
fun at the beginning, but it gets you good if
you stick with it and you're in New Zealand doing
your gigs.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
When's your show coming up, Tom And how do people
get tickets?
Speaker 5 (39:45):
It's I should know. It's the sixth of the ninth
in Wellington at Bats Theater and thirteenth to the sixteenth,
Thank you very much. My Night of May that is Yeah.
May is the New Zealand International Comedy Festival. Like I said,
I'd love to see at my show. Please, got a
lot of tickets to sell, but just go to some
show or shows you will have a good time. That's
(40:06):
a turn back guarantee. And get the tickets and see who's.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
On money, bit money bit guarantee.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
I like that traving mark that Comedyfestival, dot co dot
z so we can get all the deeps.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Thanks for coming in term best of like with everything
always nice to see you.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Thank you mate. Nice to be had Jerry and Maniah.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome along. Tim Batt, comedian is going to join us
a little bit later on in the podcast. He has
got a new show coming out in May. It's called
Eternal Optimist. It's fearless, it's funny. It's a hopeful hour
about New Zealand politics and the chaotic joys of Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Former producer of this show.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Never this show, but definitely the Matt Hack Drive Show.
I'm shot by Matt Heath with a T shirt canon.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Honestly, probably traumatic experience for him in the throat might
be the hardest I've ever laughed at a YouTube video.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, it ended up on everywhere around the world, that thing.
I don't think that the Ironies, I don't think they
owned the clip. I don't think he ended up getting
paid for that, despite the fact he just about Keith
just about killed him. He got him in the throat
with a T shirt from quite close range.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, the we'll chuck the video on the cog Glover.
That is one of my favorite. Obviously very traumatic for Tim.
Maybe we'll address it with.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
But he's happy to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
That's the way he goes, not the face. Not the
face right in the throat.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Is that way?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
It sounds like Darren Lockey. You now, yeah, that's that way.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So may he's still with us, Thank goodness.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Update on the name of the podcast we've been looking for.
We've been investigating a new name for the podcast. We've
been tasked with growing the podcast, and so I think
for I don't know if we've got fans of the podcast.
I think we've got victims. And so the victims of
the podcast, they know what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
They we know what it is. I've got a growth strategy.
Just before we get onto the names, how about we
use the radio show where some people are listening. You know,
I certain amount of people listening to the radio show
to promote the fact that we've got a podcast. Have
you thought about this?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
That is a brilliant Well, I've only ever thought of
using the podcast to point people back to our radio show,
which was given to us from on high. We said,
what's the marketing strategy this year? And they said, you've
got a bunch of people that listen to your podcast,
said we do. They said, a lot of them don't know.
(02:11):
You guys do a radio show, and I said that's
not true.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
No, And the other part of that was there's way
more people that listen to the radio show than the podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Which is what you're saying now.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So I'm thinking that we can get more of the
it's like circular breathing, it just goes around that way.
We can get more of the people from the radio
show across to the podcast. Yes, because okay, the podcast
is like the radio show, but you can listen to
it whenever you want.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
And you can say caun't all the time you say
yoppers on the radio?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Or are you saying boomers heavy oppers?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I could have just been saying it to the person
walking past.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Were you even listening with you? Did you just say yoppers?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I've seen a couple of recently, Actually, I've seen a
couple of boomys.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Oh real, some real boomer yoppers, Saggie.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Um, I suppose if I didn't see.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Them, brales ah.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
But some real whoa, it's that's that must be full.
I'm dealing with that the whole time.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Have I told you about the boomer broadcaster that works
It might be a bit unfair to call her a boomer,
but she works in this building.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I don't want to say her name until boomcaster.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
The boomcaster who I was introduced to and had to
make a little bit of small talk, and she told
me that she had to give up on open ocean
swimming because boobs are two bagging, which is zipped the
wet suit up. They chucked her unconscious.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I know who you're talking about, same man and fear.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Interesting story.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It is an interesting story.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
It's nice of her to share.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Crazy for that to do the first thing you hear about.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Someone, nice of them, Sorry to share nice I want
to give I don't want to give them away or.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
What boomer station they work for. Okay, so names, Yes,
we had a bunch. We had a bunch that came
through and a few more that came through overnight. So
I'd like to share those with you now, Brad says,
late suggestion for the intro just the tip, just the tip,
(04:22):
I don't know. Shane said, not necessarily true, it's not bad.
Another couple of votes for the hold yoppers. Blake said, so,
I just want to throw my hat in the ring
before the final selection has made. Please and he said,
through a bunch of them, Oh yeah, that is a
strange Zoey's Boys.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Oh, Zoey's Boys.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I guess him ze Is By.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Oh yeah, I wish it I had zoe Is Bye.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
We kind of find some males like that, like Zoey's Boys.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
Mm hm.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Three blokes in the German In turn, come on the
Life of a Newsboy, The Tortured Alternative Broadcasters Society.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
The Tortured Alternative. I mean that's good. That is good,
but it's not it's a bit much.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
And then a few a couple of ripoffs of other podcasts.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Here in my Mouth.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Uh oh, that's a weird imagine. We called it the
I've got to hear in my mouth it is.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It is a bit like getting you here in your
mouth this podcast, isn't it. You can just get some
there and you can always get it out. I hope
it's you're not pleasant. Put it that way. It's not pleasant,
but you can deal with it. The Diary of a Newsboy. No,
that's a rap off with the Diary Oversea. It's well,
it's not it's not what it is is.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Call it a newsboy? What that's off the back of
caller Daddy Oh spiked Media Punch Courney once I think
we read this one years today. What about Sam said,
did you know these guys do a podcast? Was that
the first one I read out?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
No? No, no, you read that out off air before record?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Did you know that these guys do a podcast?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
These guys? Did you know that these guys do a podcast?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Because that was one of the issues that we have.
Does draw you in, doesn't it? Did you guys know
these guys also do a radio show? These guys always
do a radio show, the podcast Far Out.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Guys also do a radio show, the podcast. I quite
like that.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
These guys also a radio These guys also do a podcast, the.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Radio radio show.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
So these guys, Oh, that's quite good.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Because it's taking marketing and some advice from marketing, and
it's it's it's and it's saying exactly what it is.
It's direct.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Did you guys know these guys.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
These guys? Did you know?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Did you know these guys also do a radio show,
radio show, the podcast? You did you know these guys
the post radio?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Or would you say, did you know that these guys
do a radio show? Podcast? Oh, radio show, question Mark
podcast full stop like Capital podcast full Stop.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
It's the it's the did you know these guys also
do a radio show podcast, and it's the did you
know these guys also do a podcast?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Radio show? I think the question mark has to come
after podcast. Sorry, it has to come after a radio
show if it's so, we're talking about the name of
the podcast, right, So it's did you know that these
guys also do a radio show? Question mark capital P podcast?
Full stop? Because because if it doesn't, then it's a
(07:51):
radio show podcast. It's like, we don't do a radio
show podcast question mark? Where does the question mark go?
There needs to be a question mark that did you
have to have a question mark at the end of
that sentence?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
We shoulding because the other part of this is word
of mouth is going to be a big thing for.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Us taking deep breaths, So that's not a good signment
with the name. But nobody should have to take deep breaths. Well,
what I'm trying to say is that if the podcasts,
it's called it's a podcast, right. So, but but the
name of the podcast is did you know these guys
also do a radio show? So that's that's the sentence podcast.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Did you see the one from George there, George field Port,
Because we've got good taste and decency. Going through the
radio show, he said poor taste and indecency.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, I don't mind that poor taste and indecency. Is
it easy to say poor tasting, indecency protested poor taste
and indecency. We don't want something that's hard for people
to say. I've learned that the hard way. Anything that's
a difficult name that you can't remember, it's hard to say.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I know. This is this is where we get out ourselves.
This is where we put a stick in our own
spokes as we come up with something hilarious that we
think is really funny and then forget that people have
to read it or like say it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah. See, years ago I came up with a name
for the our Havoc show. It used to be called
the Old Have I had Havoc two thousand Deluxe. That
was he did that in nineteen ninety nine. He wanted
to call it Havoc two thousand Deluxe, which was it
was a good name. And then the next year I
came up with the name Havoc Luxury Suites and Conference Facility,
(09:33):
and we thought that was hilarious. It was so long
and stupid, but people couldn't sit. I like the name,
but it was I learned from that. It's like that's
too hard to people can't remember what it is. What
is it? Yeah? What is that?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
And then they just start calling it the show zoeboshas please,
Oh I don't have a name.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
But I think you just need to think really simple,
like someone who doesn't know anything. Yeah, you want them
to tune in, not like not our smart listeners who
already know the inside Jack know everything exactly, all that we're.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Trying to grow at Zoe exactly. That's what we're trying
to just kind of.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Grow, is amen. And so I think something really simple
that anyone can understand that, Like you, you read it
and you want to click on that even though you
have no idea who, no offense, who you guys are
or anything.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, if you want this podcast, I can't to grow.
You need to You need to know that it's going
in soil. Now, if you don't know that there's any soil,
how are you going to throw it?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Well, how do you know we're not running a hydroponic situation?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That's true, it could be hydroponics, and then we're not.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
We're definitely not.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Men have no mates after forty the podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It sounds too much like one of those ones that's
a victim me one. You know that around victim. We're
not victims. Do you know?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
What goes really well as women talking about? Six is
a really popular, really popular genre of podcasts, six dot podcast,
six dot life. Obviously that that's a New Zealand one
call it daddy. I think started out like that. I
think it's more of an interview thing. These days we call.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It six dot death. Not bad well.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I I've for the longest time wanted to start because
underrepresented in the podcast space is the male perspective on sex, right,
So I wanted to do a podcast called dudestt Rooting
Dude's Rooting dud dudes dot Routing. And it's the podcast
that doesn't come out quite as often as it would
like to.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Is it a gay podcast? Could be?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
So for example, for example, you know, maybe one week
it doesn't come out at all, and we hate we say, look, sorry, guys,
stack the dishwasher wrong? That podcast this week? Oh yeah,
I like that And the first episode we'll just start
getting going. Oh that seems like that's all we've got today.
Thanks for joining us for the first ever episode of duty.
(11:56):
But I don't have to. That's not really that's a
different podcast.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
I think that one even messaged and on socials, Yoppers
and Yeppers you know you is a bit inside joking.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yoppers is pretty inside joking. It's taking the wild by
storm though. Ye yeappers, the yeappers, Yeah, yeppers. Only dudes
and a.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Fro line line.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
What is that the name? Or just only dudes only.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Like only fans but only dudes? Eh, frow line.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Isn't that Spanish?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It's frank?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
All right? Well, look, we're still working on it. We're
still working through it. Maybe we take that.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Can we ask tim Bert? He might know he's got
an idea. Let's talk to him next.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Jeremy Wells and the nias steet find them on Instagram
at Hodaki Breakfast. Jerry and Manaia joined the conflict the
Hardaki Breakfast discussion group on Facebook for my.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Award winning comedian and podcaster Timbette joins us on the
podcast right now. Welcome Tim.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
It's such a pleasure. How's everyone doing? Can you give
me an out of ten?
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Well, we've at the moment, I'm going to say eight. Yeah,
I'm home in the swimming I.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Mean there's eleven too much.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Wow, No, that's good for just a little less of
the night.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Nine and four you be honest.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Honestly seven and a half, just no, seven and a half.
It is only eight available to him. So that's a
good that's a high percent.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
We're not injured at the moment, which is good.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
For a while.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
No fools, what about you? Tim Well?
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Off the back of this incredible positivity, I'm righting high
on an eight. Now I walk down on a seven,
and you've got me to a beautif.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
We've been thinking about it, because we have been talking
about treating the week as a seven game series like
in the NBA. Love it, And what we have to
do to advance is win four games.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
So you know you'd have to think Friday and Saturday,
you talk, those are home games. You should win Friday
and Saturday.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
You're doing something, you know, pretty poor if you know.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Monday and Tuesday. There Monday. Some people think Sunday a
bit of an away games as well, because you know,
you get a lot of chues to do on Sunday
things like that, So.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Really get the Sunday scaries other people.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
So all you have to do is when two out
of the three of Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and then you've
won that week.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Wednesday is a bit of a gimmey. I would say,
you're at the top of the slope. You're looking downhill.
There's a lot to look forward to. Yeah, and also
you get you kind of like you entitle yourself to
a little treat.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I think on Wednesday you can I see the week
as a bell shaped curve. I was talking about this
earlier on and I think Wednesday is the top of
the bell shaped curve. So from then you can plomp
it into neutral and the rest of the week should
take you through to Friday.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
There we go.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
You know what's a shadd of though, is the Tuesday
Tuesdays just tough. But I think if you make your
peace with that that Wednesday is not for you and
you just kind of put your head down and you
bum up, maybe that's the approach.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, Tuesday, Tuesday is a scheduling loss, you know what
I mean. It's like the second night of a back
to back. You just played last night, now you're going
to play again on the Tuesday. It's like I'm just
circling that one. We're going to call that a loss,
take it for what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
And then carry on with that weak well as a man,
as a forty nine year old man, can I can?
I impart a piece of wisdom which I've learned over
my forty nine years, and that is, if you think
Tuesday is not going to be a good day, and
I agree normally Tuesday isn't. What you do is you
plan ahead and you schedule in things that are gonna
make your Tuesday a good day. Now, I don't, for example,
(15:39):
ever try to anyway shoot things on Tuesdays. So if
I'm going to do extra shoots for seven sharp you
work in TV, I say that, I say that Tuesday
that was getting wild. I say that Tuesday is a
day where I'm not going to be shooting on a Tuesday,
because I know that if I'm shooting on a Monday
(16:00):
and then I've got it, and then on the Monday, fuck,
I've got a shoot on a Tuesday as well, then
that's gonna tip me over. You either have a book
a sauna in for a Tuesday or or do or
say that you're not going to do anything so you
can sit down and have a read. You can read
a book. You just make Tuesday your.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Man not to be a decade jearing me, but there
are so few people in Tally who get to call
the shots on when you know what days they get to.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, no, because people always say to you, like when
you when you available in any situation. You know, I
think people say, what people you know, can we have
a meeting on Tuesday? And all you can say is no,
you can go. No, I can't know you can.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
But a lot of people get sacked when they do that.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Well, I was just changing the jack Tame and he
was I probably shouldn't. I'm blowing up a spot a
little bit because this was off here. But the desks
and there are quite low, like they're sort of uncomfortably low.
And I was like, surely you can tell someone and
your jeck Tame. You can get the you can get
the desks lifted a bit, so you know, you can
(16:58):
sort of sit slightly more comfortably in the place where
you're working all the time. He's like, no, no, no,
Hoskin could do it, but not may you checked?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Come on, brother, I know, but they share the desk
with Hosking. That's why you can't Husking. He's got sway, man.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
I know he does, but I think his methos has
grown a little bit disproportional and it's sort of distorted.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I think I don't listen to him.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
He's got a demi god status in New Zealand, which
I think is ill afforded and unhelpful well the country.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Well maybe unhelpful, but unfortunately. And you know, Tim back,
because you've worked in commercial radio, your currency is completely
proportionate to the amount of money that you bring in. Now,
if you if your show brings him like his forty
million dollars, then and that's you know, I don't know
(17:51):
that that's exactly the figure, but it's something like that.
Then if you leave, that leaves a forty million dollar
ten int your whole of revenue inside the company that
you So you've got some currency at that point. You're
going to keep that guy happy.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
We used to be an egalitarian society here in New Zealand.
Were used to be a little more even handed and brotherly.
You know, everyone was contributing. The unions are gone and
Hoskings calling the shots. The money.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I think everyone's got the essay, and I think I
actually think businesses nowadays, more people actually have more power
than they ever have had inside of businesses. You know,
people who are in lower paid jobs inside of businesses
can get rid of bosses if they really I've seen that,
(18:40):
there's a glint in your eye of the night. I've
seen it happen. To have sex with them. The best
way can you can get rid of people.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I was going to I was going to say the
example of Razors Robinson.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
That's an example, but then you said you have six with.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Them, and I was like, oh, we don't know all
the details.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
You know, that's true, we'll never read that review.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
That biography is probably not coming out for fifty years.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Sometimes it's hard, and now it's not easy to get
rid of someone, you know, it's it's certainly you're firing
people as a difficult process. Nowadays, it used to be
super easy. You literally used to say you're fired and
that was the end, and that person out gone a
TV show about that. Yeah, and there's still the way
in the States you can still fire people.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Well, it's tended to reality.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
It's easier now. The ninety day, no questions asked firings back.
Oh yeah, which I'm against.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Oh you don't like the ninety day, you don't like
the ninety day firing.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I'm a I'm a socialist at this point, but if
you're stuck with a whole lot of shit is figure
it out. You own the business, but then you don't
want to employ the shything to hire them in the
first place. Your practices like it's it's like the parenting thing, right.
I can't even remember if we were recording when we
were talking about that, but no one dropped the kids
off at your house. Yeah, you just you decided on this,
(19:58):
You chose this. It's your business. You do the hiring practices,
and you deal with the repercussions of the process you've
set in place. You've got a responsibility to the people
that you hire.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I agree, you do have responsibility of the people you hire.
I think we differ though in here because I think
that that inhibits people from hiring people. So if you
can't fire people, you won't hire people. And my feeling
is that a fluid labor force is better than a
stagnant labor force. And I think, particularly in a modern environment,
(20:29):
you've got to be able to move between jobs. And
if someone's a shitter, and I've seen I've worked with
some sh other ship is and you're like, that person
should be gone, but want to get rud.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
This person should be gone so we can't hire them.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
But were you care for about something? Well, what was it?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
That's right with the division of labor amongst when you're
per little kids.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
We're going from sort of the unions and the power
of the working force and when you see division of labor,
like this really is a different podcast than I expected.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
This is cool.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Just as it heads up, I'm reading a book at
the moment called Escape from Capitalism. Oh yeah, so you
know my head's in design.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, right, well, it would be good to escape from capitalism.
I mean, that's that's true. But this thing with you've
got a two year old and a four year old. Yeah,
and I reckon those first five years you were saying
that it's fun and you're enjoying it, which is great,
and I think that's such a good way to go
into it. I think for a lot of people it's
overwhelming because it's quite a large change in their life,
right absolutely. And then also nowadays with parenting because because
(21:34):
the divisions, the divisions aren't as clear cut as they
have been in the past, and now we've moved into
a different world.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Oh, everybody's a little bit though. I'm like, I don't
know why everyone's listening to everyone else. You know, the
signals about, oh, you're the man, so you've got to
unplug the drains or whatever. You're the woman, so you've
got to change the nep no one's in charge, you Like,
I've just always I've always found it a little but
weird all those signals that people get, and a little
bit concerned at how much people listen to other people.
(22:05):
I've just I don't know, for whatever reason, probably relate
to the fact that I'm a middle child and a
family of force. I'm just very used to slipping under
the radar and really not paying attention to what people
are telling me to do. Yeah, whatever, it's fine, Yeah,
I'll go and do my own thing. Like why are
you listening to that? Like why are you taking that
on board? Yeah, well make up your own rules. Yeah,
(22:27):
I follow you.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I think we do more now, you know. Yeah, I
think I think people do. I think there's any path
for anybody, which is great, it is that's capitalism which
has done that. But I think I don't think so.
I think communist countries generally are conservative in their role
divisions certainly historically.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Well, first of all, false dichotomy, I would argue, yeah,
because I'm more of a I would What I would
love to see is a little more socialism rather than communism.
I'm not for like a centralized government control, but I
am for more powerful the workers. That's good for everybody,
That's what except you're like six people who have a
billion dollars at the top and they're in charge of
here's the and the.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
People who have to work with shutters, Like the people
are on a team with a shudder who they can't
get rid of.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Well, let's get into it. Why are the people shiit?
What's shit about them?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I've got a theory that, because it's a long held theory,
particularly in New Zealand around politics, is no one wants
to do it, so the only people that do want
to do it a massive fucking wounders.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
I am one hundred percent on board.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
And it really feeds into like vain narcissism that anyone
would even fucking think they could do it lit alone,
that they would want to do it.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
They have to be insane to chase it as a job.
I know that people complain every time they get a
pay rise, and like, I get there, but it sucks.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
The jobs that sucks sucks.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
And we should want I kind of like, I don't
even know if this is true, but I've got this
vision of ancient Greece. When you became a senator, it
was because you were an old man convenuhere now but
like who had experience in an industry or or whatever
community building, and you you were giving back to your
society by contributing to the governance of it, a public
(24:08):
servant and that, yeah, yeah, exactly. And now it's like,
I don't know who wants that? Yeah, who wants who
wants to have every single thing that comes out of
their mouth? You known talked about by the country Nonstar's brutal.
It's horrible, It's brutal.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
I have it.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Just look at small town, New Zealand. Every other town
has a mir who's been there for thirty or forty
years because no one else wants to do if they
had a whip broad and said, anyone want to be
mirror about the fuck that?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, But the big part of it is that nobody's perfect.
And nowadays with the microscope and I'm talking about microscope
like you said, blah blah blah blah, and you tweeted
there were a.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Few sweeters from an upmarket ponts. Suddenly you're not allowed
to be an MP but.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Among us like two thousand and cement you tweeted this
in two thousand and seven said blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
I kind of get the sense of the pendulum standing
the swing the other way beout. I think we've all
had it. We've had it with that ship man.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
It still requires I think skin, doesn't it for anybody
to be involved in that. I thick skin with bugger
or money, But then the other hard work. It's hard work.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
The thick skin is what you need to get by.
But then what is it that motivates you to want
to do it? Yeah, that's why it promotes fuckds that
go unto those narcissism. Yeah, because otherwise why else would
you bother doing it?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Public service or narcissism. It could be the only only
those two things, right.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
You'll want to do The public service thing has to
be such an incredible drive in you to override all
of the awfulness of the job. And there are Look,
there are some good eggs in there. I think we
could probably you know, we would probably depict different people
of who our versions of who those people are. But
I think there are a lot of well intentioned people
in there. But I think you're right, and I the.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Incentives are for us to get involved, take it from me,
some of a microphone and cameras all day.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Is there no chance that it's some kind of malazed
like someone that absolutely has no idea what the fuck
they want to do with their life. And someone goes,
you'd be a great politician one day, and all of
a sudden, they just since you start locally, maybe they
only need to do twenty years a week and they
just sit in meetings and just they're quite happy just
watching other people. Yeah, b yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
But I mean, look, I know not everyone will share
this opinion, but I would make an argument that that
has been the career trajectory of my current prime minister, like, because.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
That is what a CEO is, right.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
It's kind of the dute who sits in a room
doesn't necessarily have a huge ideology of their own, but
is sort of there to make sure the graph's going
up quarter to quarter. And personally, I think that's why
we're seeing a little bit of a lack of communication
skills because I don't think there's a whole lot behind Jeremy.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Wells and Manaia Stewart. Find them on Instagram at Hodarki Breakfast.
Jerry and Manaia join the complay the Hodarki Breakfast discussion
group on Facebook for more.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Well, I'm told that is not a lot of advice
being taken.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
I think, yeah, that's what I've been told.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
From people who are on the inside of that operation.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
You got to take the advice because well, the.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Theory from the top is from that particular person is
I'm here because I don't like politics, because people don't
want politicians and politics is rubbish, and I'm trying to
do anti politics. But the reality is it doesn't seem
that well, that doesn't. But also the reality is there's
good and bad things and everything.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
You can be trying to do something and not be
doing that thing at all. I'm trying to make a
good radio shirt and often.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
You had a peeler with the sixty forty thing with
your partner. I think another good idiom is what got
you here won't get you there. You've got to like
step up and evolve and change your skill set.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
And it's coming back to a test cricket analogy, because
what gets you, what gets you to the test side
rights is the way that you punish bad bowl or
the way that you play certain shots. Once you get
to the level up there, next thing, you know, those
bowlers can work you out and I just will not
bowl to your strengths. And so all of a sudden,
(28:10):
what got you to that, the strings that got you there,
you've got to evolve actually undo you because they'll put
people in fielding positions where you get caught all sorts
of stuff.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
You've got to track down Rachel Smally and you've got
to listen to what she has to say about how
you approach interviews with Jack Tame.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I don't think he's capable of I don't know. I
think he's capable of changing.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
He some people have kind of a limited bandwidth of
how much they can adapt.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I think I think people are I think I think
voters are actually very I reckon they're not as people think.
People give them not too much credit. But I think
people operate more on base instinct than what when they vote,
than what people.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Think a little bit into promoting my show, not at all,
Not at all. But this is an idea that I
try to like, I've tried to see it into my
comedy festival show this year. I to your point that
like politicians being over scrutinized, and it's a really terrible thing.
We've got to have more politicians on drugs. I've gotta
(29:12):
have more of everyone on drugs. And when i'd say
drugs specifically, I'm talking psychedelics, like non addictive psychedelics. I mean,
there is an argue for the productiveness of meth in
the short term, but I think the long term trader
probably isn't worth it. Hitler, who are you? I did
for a bet until it did it?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
No, I'm with it. Who are you when you peel
it all back?
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Man?
Speaker 5 (29:34):
This is my whole thing with David Seymour. So David
Seymour joins young Act when he's nineteen, flies to Canada,
gets involved with the right wing think tank there for years,
comes back, joins Act again as like a fully fledged politician.
You haven't even tried to analyze alternative points of view.
And you know what would really help with that? Some mushrooms,
(29:54):
My guy, an afternoon it's splendor on the grass, go
to the day out like live a little But because
we sort of do have these, you know, crazy expectations
for our politicians, which is stupid because sorry to break,
it's everyone literally everyone's on drugs, Like I do drugs
with teachers, lawyers, cops, broadcasters actually the one the one
(30:20):
industry would never engage.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Think.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
It's crazy to me that no one like admits it
or can talk about. So that's why as a comedian,
I'm like, I need to be an advocate for this
because it is underrepresented.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Well it's a problem if you say, okay, well you
if you take drugs or have taken drugs, you can't
be a politician. That's going to cut out a lot
of good people.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
Man.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
But that's basically what we're saying. I mean, our pro
min is there has not drunk an alcohol before.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
You're true? What about nandor is he not ever?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
No?
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Never? No never?
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I know.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
There's an interesting thing, isn't it When you say to
a whole lot of people, especially a consistent constituency like
New Zealand where most adults have tried alcohol once, and
you say I will never I reckon get him on
the show and say here's a beer.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
We're on the purse.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
No, we'll just drink it.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Have a sip, a little bit of it, a little
bit of preprepreciate. Actually, have a surmond it, have a sap.
Think it's got to tell.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Why wouldn't you have a sip?
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Yeah, because I don't. I don't want to trust the
keys of a country to someone who can't handle themselves
on four beers. And this is why I like Australia.
They simply wouldn't let it happen, you know, like it
would be just if someone put the hand up, was like,
I want to be the PM. By the way, I'm
a tee totaler.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Well, Trump's a tea totaler as well.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
I know.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
And this is the problem, the problem. Never never drunk,
he's never drunk, had never had a beer. His brother
was an alcoholic and drunk himself to death. Tea totaler.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I'm doing to wonder about Trump.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
You don't think you.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I don't know about trumps seaking thoughts. Yeah, I think
he's pretty good. So there's a few things that are starting.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
To bubble up that I'm like, I just yeah, I
keep coming back to the fact that man, someone someone's
got to advocate on behalf of acid and psilocybin and
kiddermine and the right quantities. Well, no, no, no, that's what
I'm saying. In the right quantities, I want everyone say, hey, listen.
The show that I'm doing is called a eternal Optimist.
(32:21):
I want everyone to have a good time. I'm not
here to you know, innkle tap anyone. I want everyone
uplifted and feeling good.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Because I've always thought it's been a long time since
we've had a leader in any country that you would
follow into battle, like if we were back in the
if we're back in the medieval days. Watch one of
our politicians longing, Yeah, muldone.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I used to I used to think long it was
something great. And then the more I've read and the
more I learn, the less impressive that man is.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
You're a bit of a student of New Zealand history. Jeremy,
what about Michael Joseph Savage? Would you follow him?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Michael Joseph Savages? It was about five.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
One, right, Nepole our very.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
But but I think Norm.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I don't know Big Norm again, and the more I
find out about Big Norm, the less I think. Very
physically you'd follow big norm man.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's from my hometown.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I mean, you know, someone like Helen Clark, you probably
follow her and like when she really fired up, and
you probably go, oh, yeah, okay, she'd be pretty she'd
be pretty terrifying with the baying in hand.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
I'd follow her in one hand.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Let's go, I probably wouldn't follow Lux and I definitely
wouldn't follow be honest. That's if you're if you're about
to storm the gates of Mortals so that Froder can
carry the ring unmolested into the fiery pets of mounta
Dome from which it came, and she's given you the
stir up and probably, hey, fellers, I don't know about this.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
That's fair, but you know, on a on a what
is it called scoring on a scale, if you're met
with that, or what I would say to you is,
you know, look what.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I would say to you, Look are we going to
win this war?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Productect?
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Look, I've got no personal problem with the Yorks. The
Orcs are doing their thing. We need to find a
way to work with the Yorks. Sometimes the Orks are bad, bro.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
We do a lot of trade with more to it,
all right, It's kind an interesting election this.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Year, isn't it that? Because you've got two essentially unpopular
people as the two main choices of people. Yeah, now
you're looking at twenty percent. Both have it both in
the in the early twenties. I bring that's quite low. WHOA,
that's a huge call. Milon Harris Rights will be the
one that benefits out of that. He'll be He'll be
(34:43):
the guy that because all of a sudden he looks
like quite a good time.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Well, he's already gone. I'm going full rowing populist because
I only need to capture eight percent of the vote
so I can say the most outrageous ship that ninety
two percent of the country disagree with.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
This is nothing, This is no. He disappears for three years,
you kind of don't hear from him, and then an
election gets announced and for six months all you hear
about is once he's.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Going to say the most of the game. I think
this will be the most shocking in the next few
months because he's the gates are wide open now for
just the most unhidden ship.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Shane Jones are going to run for his money. But
they're on the same.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Okay, so comedy comedy shows, that's.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Right, dude, it's important, man. I think like things are
tough at the moment. Things are genuinely tough. The economy
is in the shitter and just like everyone's being bombarded
with negative news, we're all addicted to our phones and stuff,
like there's a lot of bad stuff. I really I'd
love to see some people at my show, but more
specifically go to a show in the New Zealand Comedy
(35:50):
Festival because a unique feature of our festival versus some
international ones and I've just been doing all the Assie ones,
is it's not open entry. You have to apply to
be in it, which means you can take a punt
on any show in the fist because you actually have
to be at a pretty high part to get a
show in in New Zealand, and our comedians are truly
in New Zealand top shelf, world class. It has frustrated
(36:14):
me for a very long time that we don't film
more of our comedy. Yeah, because for up until very recently,
like we've got these sensational comedians and they do these
shows and then it just evaporates and no one kind
of knows about it.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
And then they pop up overseas and they're going really
good and.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
You yeah, like you know, everyone sort of knows the
Flight of the Concords and Race and Rose Matafao, but
even more recently like Saturday Night Live UK, Joseph Moore
is one of the head writers on there in Two Hearts,
he and Laura Daniel are like doing songs that are
now on IS and l and the whole world is
loving it. Yeah, and like that got made in terms
(36:50):
of their creative project here in New Zealand, they've been
doing shows for over a decade and honing their skills
and stuff and it's magic. But I just wish that
more people knew how good we were. And I know
that there's the tall poppy thing as well, where like
we don't want to big up our own guys too much,
but we got the goods.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
We have the goods here. We definitely do it. I mean,
look at what's happening in Australia now. It's like it's
all New Zealand comedians.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
We're really starting to piss them off. It's really well
luckily luckily for Mey Montgomery's got a little anchor baby here,
so yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Tony Lyle's on the a SEC. It's all going great
guns for the New Zealand comedy. At the moment, I
feel like, but you're right, do you almost need to
go overseas before? Can you one another? Enough? Gigs in
New Zealand and two are our comedians appreciated enough that.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
They here's the thing about New Zealand. We have the
respectfully the worst audiences. Like we're so quiet? Is this
for gigs as well? Like for music? I'm sure we've
all been togegs.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Like we've got nice homes. I've forgot a theory on this.
Go on, I've got a theory. We've got nice homes
in New Zealand. Like your home is a nice place
to be. Now, if you go to Barcelona, you're living
in a tiny little apartment, like tiny, and it's not
that nice. If you go to Hong Kong, you're living
in a tiny little partment. You go to Tokyo, you're living
in a tiny York New York.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
You spend no time at home in you know, you
want to be a city.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
You want to be out because the out is good, Yeah,
in our country and is good. The inner is good.
Your home is good. You've got like space, you've got
a backyard, a lot of the time, like you've got
you've got a tree. We've got a tree.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
We need to increase housing density to the point where
no one wants to be at home anymore and it's
going to improve our creativity.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
It's a it's a bit of a problem for us.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
It's even pubs, you know in the UK people go
to pubs because.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
It's they're escaping the house.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I'd rather drink it home. Yeah, yeah, often do it.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
It probably is something to that. But the flip side
of this is right, so New Zealand comedians, if you
stay in it, like if you've got the middle and
the desire to actually keep going and push through everyone
sucks and stand up for the first two years, like,
it's just it's a very weird thing to do. It's
an embarrassing pursuit. Quite frankly.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
No one can tell you how to do it either. Yeah,
I feel it is.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
And it's very different to like learning music or whatever.
You've got to be bad in front of an audience
to sharpen your skills, and the New Zealand they're the
hardest audiences in the world. But if you push through
and you're a New Zealand comedian. You have been training
with weights on and then you go to Australia and
you're like, people laugh at the love, they laugh at jokes. Incredible.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah, so it's just it's like the hardest training. It's
altitude training. You're basically doing altitude training by being in
New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
I think so that one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
That's a great theory.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
So it's like, you know, it's not it's not that
fun at the beginning, but it gets you good if
you stick with it and you're in New Zealand doing
your gigs.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
When's your show coming up, Tom And how do people
get tickets?
Speaker 5 (39:45):
It's I should know. It's the sixth of the ninth
in Wellington at Bats Theater and thirteenth to the sixteenth,
Thank you very much. My Night of May that is Yeah.
May is the New Zealand International Comedy Festival. Like I said,
I'd love to see at my show. Please, got a
lot of tickets to sell, but just go to some
show or shows you will have a good time. That's
(40:06):
a turn back guarantee. And get the tickets and see who's.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
On money, bit money bit guarantee.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
I like that traving mark that Comedyfestival, dot co dot
z so we can get all the deeps.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Thanks for coming in term best of like with everything
always nice to see you.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Thank you mate. Nice to be had Jerry and Maniah.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
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