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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Used Talk sed BE you Talk said.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Being the
weekly edition, first of yesterday's news. I am Glenn Hart
and we are looking back at both Sunday and Saturday.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
This is the.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Edition, the weekend edition where you really get two days
for the price of wont and today that means we've
got to talk the Warriors. They seem to have all
the momentum in the world right now. Eric Idle makes
me laugh, so I've put him in the podcast. Shane
Jones also makes me laugh, which is why I put
him in the podcast. And the fact that he's talking
about oil and guests exploration. He doesn't care about the
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environment these days. I don't think Shane Jones very much. However,
there's another guy called Will Cockrell who he certainly does,
and he's trying to clean up Mount Everest. But before
any of that, did you win Lotto? I guarantee you
Jack didn't because he didn't even have a ticket.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
All of this is hypothetical because I haven't actually bought
a lotto ticket. I never have. I've never bought a
lot of ticket. I wouldn't even know what to do. Well,
is it? Do you call it a triple dip?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
These days?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Is that a thing? A triple dip? I wouldn't know
what to ask when I got to the front of
the line. Perhaps I'm just too rational, too, too emotionless
and rational. Even as I watched the jackpot roll over
onto fifty million dollars this week, the equal highest ever
in New Zealand, I couldn't help but think, well, a
record draw means that there'll probably be record numbers of
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people buying lotto tickets. Record numbers of people buying lotto
tickets probably actually reduces my chances that much more of
winning fifty million dollars all to myself. Statistically speaking, the
chances of having Powerball by yourself, you and you alone,
are actually becoming even slimmer, aren't they. I get it, though, Look,
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I get it.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Why people have a punt. Buying lotto ticket isn't so
much a ticket to win fifty million dollars. It's a
ticket to dream this morning, though, I reckon I've done
that for free.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Wow, every now and again, You know, our host on
news talks, he'd beat And I think it's probably true
of everybody to be honest, not just host on the radio.
But they say something that makes you go mahn, you
are not normal. And obviously Jack's got some kind of
weird anxiety about buying things that he's not used to buying.
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Thea cann't bring himself to buy a lot of tickets.
It's not condoms, but I think it's the last thing
I felt really stressed out about buying was condoms, and
there was a long time ago, and then I realized
that you could just go and buy them like anything else,
give them from the supermarket. It's not that big a deal.
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News talk Zip been sorry about talking about condoms. There
didn't really need to do that. Let's quickly move on
to the Warriors. We absolutely threshed the Cowboys, so that's
good news.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Pretty happy camp after last night.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah therefore, now, yeah, it's a long trip, but it's
a lot better after a windlow there and yeah, but
we all keep your home. How do you assess the performance?
What were you What do you think everybody was most
pleased about last night?
Speaker 5 (03:35):
I think we just started off real well and we
kind of held you know, the performance for most of
the game and played to the.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
FAU eighty and you really take their foot off the
pitle and just keep it playing Christure for the whole game.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Off the back of the buye you know, was it
obviously the two ones going into the buy? But was
the buyer you know, a help to the team and
getting the likes of yourself and others over some niggly
little injuries.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Yeah, I think it was just like obviously if he
runs what he's freshing up?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I think it was when we got our buy.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
So yeah, everyone came back.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
So yeah, Rocker Berry there came away with a you've
order brace that too.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
You get two things, a.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Peer per of tries, good stuff. I'm sure Mike Hosking
this morning will tell us that this is it was theear,
this is our year.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Somebody's here and something to do with the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Do you talk, sibbin.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I couldn't convince Mike Hosking to interview Eric Idol, so
Francesca interviewed him instead. While one't you want to interview
one of the funniest people of all time?
Speaker 7 (04:43):
So we started the segment with your song always look
on the bright Side of Life. It's also the name
of the show you're bringing here. You released it in
nineteen seventy nine. Did you think then it would still
be floating around now?
Speaker 8 (04:56):
No?
Speaker 9 (04:57):
I mean it's fairly mostly improbable. I mean it was
a it was a suggestion for how to end the
life of Brian when all our characters were being crucified
and we didn't know how to end it, and I should,
let's finish with a song, and it'll be it could
be a song. We can be crucified and we can
sing a nice, little cheery song, like a Disney song
with a little whistle. And then I went home and
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wrote it, and I brought it back, recorded it and
brought it back next day and it was in the
scripts and suddenly, you know, so then we then we
were filming it and I revoiced it in Tunisi up
on mister Cheeky's voice, and now and then about you know,
thirteen years later it was re released again and went
to number one in the UK, and then in the
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in two thousands it suddenly it became the number one
song requested a British funerals, which is kind of which
is kind of sweet. I mean, I do think that's
very sweet and funny.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
It has had a lot of different lives, really, this song,
isn't it.
Speaker 9 (05:56):
It certainly has absolutely.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
You are now touring a show, you're hitting here. Is
it a motto you stick too, to always look on
the bright side of life?
Speaker 9 (06:06):
Well, I am an optimist in the mornings, a pessimist
by night, but I'm an optimist in the morning. So
I think maybe it's just a boarding school habits. You
have to start a new day, get on with it,
what else, you know, don't let anything hang over from yesterday.
So I think it is a very good motto, and
I think it does encourage people. And they write to
me a lot and say it meant a lot to them,
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And it means a lot to them, And you know,
I think if you can make them laugh and smile
and feel a little better at funerals, that's a really
nice thing to be able to achieve. Even though that
didn't set up to do that.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Of course, Mighty Python's parrot skitches often reworked at people's
funerals as well. It would be good, I reckon. I
think if you reached the peak of cultural consciousness of
people are quoting you at funerals, trying to think of
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other if you see anything that I'd like repeated it.
Somebody probably not that bit earlier about the condoms. Maybe
what kind of legacy is Shane Jones leaving behind. He's
obviously decided that being environmentally friendly is just not for
him and therefore not for New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
How important is this band reversal on oil and gash.
Speaker 8 (07:29):
About twenty percent of all our energy needs are related
to gas. As gas declines in New Zealand because of
the chilling effect of Ja Cinder Durn's announcement in twenty eighteen,
we're relying progressively more on Indonesian coal. So it was
a perverse outcome and I think it speaks to the
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sort of juvenile, shallow green thinking that we can somehow
create a better trajectory forward to decarbonization without actually future
proofing our energy resilience.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
What did you make of the protest yesterday, thousands of
people turning up in Auckland.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Yeah, well, I have to respect the fact that kiwis
of all stripes and sizes, they're able to come out
and make their feelings and their priorities known to the government.
But there's five million New Zealanders who want to keep
the lights on, who want to keep jobs in New Zealand,
who who along with me, believe that New Zealand is
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an environmental Eden of garden. So environmental garden of Eden. Yeah, yeah,
this notion make that we're living within some sort of
climatic purgatory. I resent it, and it's sort of spread
around by the green sisterhood, and I don't like it
at all.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Coming.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Scurrulously close to denying that climate change is the thing
there isn't he he.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
He's yeah, he winds me up. I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I mean, I like listening to the way he talks,
but I don't always love the stuff that he says.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
And I kind of get what he's saying that.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
You can't stop progress if you have a if.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Your green agenda is too green and two agendery. But
in the back of my mind, I'm thinking, you can't.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Live in a sustainable world for too many more decades
if you're not slightly green and slightly agendery.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I'm probably proud about that. He's probably right. He seems
smarter than me.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
News talk has it been.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
On the other hand, this guy thinks there's too much
rubbish on Everest and wants to sort it out.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
That this is a subject of particular interest to New Zealanders,
and New Zealanders are a particular interest in your amazing book.
But I just wondered if we could start with the
big picture. Can you compare Mount Everest of nineteen fifty three,
the Mount Everest of Hillary Intensing, to the Mount Everest
of today.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Yeah, of course, you know.
Speaker 10 (10:11):
Back then and even up until I would say the eighties,
the big X factor with Everest, and it was a
big one was the however many you know, many meters
above K two. It was so the sort of tallest
mountain in the world thing, you know, nearly nine thousand
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meter peak. Really no one had any idea what the
body would do up at those heights, so where the
climbing maybe didn't feel terribly technically difficult to a lot
of people, even back in Hillary's day, it really was
the unknown above eight thousand meters a little bit like
stepping off a spaceship. I think, you know, you don't
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know what the body's gonna do, and you're up in
a no margin for error place, and so if the
body shuts down, which it would essentially without oxygen. Then
you know, then that's it.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Right.
Speaker 10 (11:08):
So at the time, Hillary was basically stepping into a
place no one had before.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (11:16):
Yeah, whereas today people are yeah, climbing a mountain that
has been substantially commercialized, to say the least. And you
hit it on an important point there, will. I mean,
the thing about man Everst, is that from a technical perspective,
from a climbing perspective, it is not a particularly difficult
mountain to climb, right, It is the altitude that's a challenge.
Speaker 10 (11:40):
Yeah, that's right. I Mean I always bristle a little bit,
and I think this comes across in my book when
people when people call it easy, you know, especially mountaineers,
have gotten into a sort of a bad you know,
real mountaineers have gotten into a bad habit of saying, oh,
Everest is ridiculous because it's easy, and that's not true.
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It's not incredibly technical, you know, if you have some
basic skills and basic athleticism, all the you know, all
the slopes and and hazards are all fairly moderate to overcome,
but there's still some steep sections and some tricky climbing
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on it. For sure, but you know, I think when
they talk about easy, they mean you're not you know,
you're not vertical, and it's not for elite climbers, that's
for sure.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah right, I do hate being vertical. Okay, He's got
me there. Horizontal was easier, and it's my preference.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I think what we've.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Learned out of today's podcast is that I prefer horizontal
other vertical. Probably leaning a little bit greener than Shane Jones,
and I'm not afraid of condoms.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I think we should stop saying condos.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
What does he keep doing there?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
You know, by now you probably could have forgotten all
about that if I didn't keep bringing it up. I'll
try not to bring it up again tomorrow on another
News Talks it'd been I'll see you.
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