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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Used Talk said Talk said.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday. It's a it was a
two issue Tuesday yesterday. I'm going to call it a
two issue Tuesday rather than a to issue Wednesday, because
A the audio I'm playing is from Tuesday, and B
(00:44):
there's no alliteration. If I say to issue Wednesday, so
to issue Tuesday, we'll get to the D string. Mckinni shortly.
Don't worry about that. But yes, Tana Darling, Tana and
the Green Party and the mess.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
They must have liked when they're putting the list together.
They must have looked at it and thought, oh, look,
there's a Maldy woman involved in a climate friendly small
business like electric bikes. That's awesome, let's chuck her on
the list. That'll make us look diverse and down with
the people. But so it suited them then, but they
didn't do their due diligence, did they, And now it
doesn't suit them anymore to have that person that they
want to get rid of her. Now, that would be
(01:23):
just a little too convenient for them, wouldn't it to
be able to get rid of her and just file
this one away and make us forget about it. I
rather like the idea that she sticks around to remind
us of the kinds of characters, because there are many
of them that the Greens bring in. But also, more importantly,
this is how democracy works. You vote for a party
based on their diverse list that happens to include Darlene Tanna.
(01:46):
You look at the list, you go, geez, that's a
great list. I'm going to vote for that party. She
also then gets her own share of personal votes given
to her. She has earned her place, and it should
be a very very high threshold for someone who's democratically elected,
whether in a seat or on a list, to be
removed from Parliament. It shouldn't be because it is now
inconvenient for the co leaders of the Green Party to
have her around anymore. Now, absolutely, I take that she will.
(02:10):
I take your point if you're going to make the
argument that she adds no value if she becomes an
independent MP. But frankly, she added no value as a
Green List MP in all position, and the guy who
might replace her if she does go ahead and quit
one hundred percent add no value as a Green MP
who is in a list position in opposition. So it's
not like we lose anything if she stays. Other than
(02:33):
being reminded of the characters as I say that the
Green Party brings in.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
That's depressing, isn't it. Being told that you add no value.
Happens to me all the time. To be fair, a
lot of the time, I'm ray even trying to add value.
I'm just trying to keep my head down. I hope
that nobody notices me. Maybe that's what Darlene Tanner was
doing as well, and it is backfired monumentally News Talk
(02:58):
ze been. I think Ryan Bridge has certainly noticed it.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Chloe, Well, she got a bit grumpy, didn't she, And
you could see it on her face. When a reporter
asked heatedly why the Greens are asking Tana to resign
and shunning her in public when old mate Julianne Genta
is still in the party despite multiple aggressive bullying allegations.
The implication of the question was that the Greens must
be a bit racist. Towards Tana because she is why
(03:24):
hennah moldy, She's moldy. And Chloe was outraged by this.
You could see it in her face, you could hear
it in her answer. She rejected it, she refuted it.
It was reductive, all that kind of stuff Tana has
done x y Z Julianne did ABC. There are differences.
The irony of the party that's perhaps best known for
calling everyone else in the room racist till they're blue
(03:45):
in the face being accused themselves of racism over not
one in Tana, but two in Ketty Ketty and three
in two day, if you go that far back, was
almost too much for the new co leader to take.
The second thing, it was interesting from that pressy yesterday.
The second thing to note here is how little we
actually know about what has gone on and how much
(04:07):
Tanner was involved. The Greens won't say what was in
the report. The report is not public. Tanna rejects the
report's findings. She says it doesn't substantiate any claims of
migrant exploitation, let alone her alleged involvement in them. So
there is a lot here that we still don't know,
answers we don't have but a lesson for Chloe in
(04:27):
political absurdity, expediency, no doubt, and how to save money
with a mug shot you do.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
The Greens spend the most time calling other people racist
or is it the the party Marti which that is
actually I feel like he has caused people racist a
(04:53):
lot as well. We just all not stop doing that
and just get on with, you know, running the country.
Probably not a talk Garry would have want for sourness
as well.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Of course, the Greens hate the Electoral Integrity Act, which
is what the Wacker Jumping Law is formerly known as.
Despite being forced to swallow that dead rat back in
twenty eighteen the coalition agreement, there seems virtually no chance
that they will use the party acting option to force
Tanner from Parliament unless they have a massive change of heart.
(05:33):
They held back from doing so when Elizabeth Ketty Kitty quit,
But there's a big difference because this is very very
early on in the electoral cycle. We're only six months in.
Elizabeth Ketty Kitty only warmed a seat for five months,
so the taxpayer only had to pay for a useless
MP for five months, which is still five months too
(05:54):
many Darling Tana would be their impotent and hopeless for
two years, two years and more if she chooses to
stage a sit in in defiance of her form a party.
This is the perfect time for the Green Party to
dismount from their increasingly lame high horses. Idealism and zalatory
(06:18):
are all very well and good, but you might in
principle disagree with a law, but you must invoke it
if you can, if you don't want to rip off
the taxpayer. Making tough decisions as a part of politics,
and it's time the Green Party grew up and showed
that pragmatism trump's idealism when it comes to protecting the voters.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
If you've been paying any attention to what's been going
on in politics and New Zealand in the last couple
of years, why would you ever vote for the Green
Party ever again? But then, of course you do wonder
(07:01):
if the chemograph that tends to vote for the Green
Party is paying any attention to what's happening in New
Zealand politics. Don't add sometimes I sound like a grumpy
old man when I say stuff like that. Okay, let's
talk g string bikinis. Why because they want to band
them at the pool and you put us.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
I make them my crochet at us and crocheted G
strings there they're beautiful.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Now.
Speaker 8 (07:27):
No, look, I'm partial to crocheting, and and my dear
late mum was brilliant at crocheting, so I love crocheting,
but I cannot comprehend crocheting in a very thin line
in that part of the Batoux.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
Well, I'm not being rude that you sort of make
a bag for guys.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Oh yes, and a.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Sort of rele for girls. Sorry.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
And is it company?
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Oh yes, very company?
Speaker 8 (08:02):
Do you Where do you sell your crocheted G strings?
Speaker 7 (08:05):
It's by word of mouth and I'm.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
Sure there's plenty of that. So in fact, you're saying,
I need less publicity is what you're saying.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
No more publicity on the G string and the betweeny
top with it.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (08:20):
And so as far as how you used to do it,
what was that like? You know what?
Speaker 7 (08:26):
What?
Speaker 8 (08:27):
Not just that not the physical feeling of wearing a
G string, but what's the feeling like of knowing that
people are noticing you when you're wearing that.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
It actually gave me a buzz because they were looking
at me and thinking I must have it either a
good body or not a good body. But people, if
you wear something like that, you expect to be looked at.
It's like the short skirts and the tops with hard
lady thinking. Now with breasts showing and pregnant moms don't
(08:57):
wear loose tops anymore. They show their bub off and
it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, potentially, I suppose it's beautiful. Was it beautiful on everybody?
And I suppose you could make that argument for any
article of clothing in.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
The news talks it bean.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
If you want to hear what Marcus has to say
about it, should we go there? Let's go there.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
My thoughts are, firstly, what about the beach. I wasn't
bonding not so long ago, everyone was wearing those g strings,
didn't seem to be a problem. No one's trying to
ban them from the beach. So there's that. Why would
be different from a pool on the beach, So there's that.
The second thing I kind of think with the g
string is before long. I mean, if there's one item
(09:52):
of clothing the whims of fashion, it's women's tugs. And
this is well out of my area here, but you
know what is in one year will be gone within
six months. My gosh, next year it might be the
full one piece. So I reckon if she can actually
spend the whole time getting a petitioner go and get
(10:12):
the things banned. By the time the petition gets enacted,
it will all turned over that we're wearing something different.
And see, you've got to think of the reputational damage
you're due to her kids. That her mother's trying to
ban the ges string just seems so daft. In the
fourth point, is there a fourth point? I think at
about four point with us? Okay, I think what the
(10:37):
fourth point is?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Brilliant? I wonder if you remembered it later on. But
my fourth point is, as opposed to the beach, why
why do women wear the style of bikini for a
(11:05):
bikini at all? There is a certain exhibitionism element to it,
isn't there? Surely? And I guess also at the beach
there's a sun tan element to it as well. So
(11:25):
far outside my comfort zone talking about this, But how
do either of those things apply at the pool? I
just don't I don't get. I mean, I don't care
you wear what you won't go nude? I don't care.
But are you wanting to show off your bod at
(11:50):
the pool, at the town pool. It seems a bit strange.
And also you're not getting a tan at the pool
and you put it in the middle of the window.
That's for damn sure.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
But I guess is.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It just because it's the only here are togs you've got? Maybe?
I don't know. We'd on two issue Tuesday that that
was the second biggest issue. Maybe I'm miss Son, I
(12:27):
am a Glenn Hart. That has been newsks, it'd been
I'll see you back here again with more big issues tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
News talkers talking.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Has it been.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
For more from news talks, it'd be listen live on
air or online and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Used Talk said Talk said.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday. It's a it was a
two issue Tuesday yesterday. I'm going to call it a
two issue Tuesday rather than a to issue Wednesday, because
A the audio I'm playing is from Tuesday, and B
(00:44):
there's no alliteration. If I say to issue Wednesday, so
to issue Tuesday, we'll get to the D string. Mckinni shortly.
Don't worry about that. But yes, Tana Darling, Tana and
the Green Party and the mess.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
They must have liked when they're putting the list together.
They must have looked at it and thought, oh, look,
there's a Maldy woman involved in a climate friendly small
business like electric bikes. That's awesome, let's chuck her on
the list. That'll make us look diverse and down with
the people. But so it suited them then, but they
didn't do their due diligence, did they, And now it
doesn't suit them anymore to have that person that they
want to get rid of her. Now, that would be
(01:23):
just a little too convenient for them, wouldn't it to
be able to get rid of her and just file
this one away and make us forget about it. I
rather like the idea that she sticks around to remind
us of the kinds of characters, because there are many
of them that the Greens bring in. But also, more importantly,
this is how democracy works. You vote for a party
based on their diverse list that happens to include Darlene Tanna.
(01:46):
You look at the list, you go, geez, that's a
great list. I'm going to vote for that party. She
also then gets her own share of personal votes given
to her. She has earned her place, and it should
be a very very high threshold for someone who's democratically elected,
whether in a seat or on a list, to be
removed from Parliament. It shouldn't be because it is now
inconvenient for the co leaders of the Green Party to
have her around anymore. Now, absolutely, I take that she will.
(02:10):
I take your point if you're going to make the
argument that she adds no value if she becomes an
independent MP. But frankly, she added no value as a
Green List MP in all position, and the guy who
might replace her if she does go ahead and quit
one hundred percent add no value as a Green MP
who is in a list position in opposition. So it's
not like we lose anything if she stays. Other than
(02:33):
being reminded of the characters as I say that the
Green Party brings in.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
That's depressing, isn't it. Being told that you add no value.
Happens to me all the time. To be fair, a
lot of the time, I'm ray even trying to add value.
I'm just trying to keep my head down. I hope
that nobody notices me. Maybe that's what Darlene Tanner was
doing as well, and it is backfired monumentally News Talk
(02:58):
ze been. I think Ryan Bridge has certainly noticed it.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Chloe, Well, she got a bit grumpy, didn't she, And
you could see it on her face. When a reporter
asked heatedly why the Greens are asking Tana to resign
and shunning her in public when old mate Julianne Genta
is still in the party despite multiple aggressive bullying allegations.
The implication of the question was that the Greens must
be a bit racist. Towards Tana because she is why
(03:24):
hennah moldy, She's moldy. And Chloe was outraged by this.
You could see it in her face, you could hear
it in her answer. She rejected it, she refuted it.
It was reductive, all that kind of stuff Tana has
done x y Z Julianne did ABC. There are differences.
The irony of the party that's perhaps best known for
calling everyone else in the room racist till they're blue
(03:45):
in the face being accused themselves of racism over not
one in Tana, but two in Ketty Ketty and three
in two day, if you go that far back, was
almost too much for the new co leader to take.
The second thing, it was interesting from that pressy yesterday.
The second thing to note here is how little we
actually know about what has gone on and how much
(04:07):
Tanner was involved. The Greens won't say what was in
the report. The report is not public. Tanna rejects the
report's findings. She says it doesn't substantiate any claims of
migrant exploitation, let alone her alleged involvement in them. So
there is a lot here that we still don't know,
answers we don't have but a lesson for Chloe in
(04:27):
political absurdity, expediency, no doubt, and how to save money
with a mug shot you do.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
The Greens spend the most time calling other people racist
or is it the the party Marti which that is
actually I feel like he has caused people racist a
(04:53):
lot as well. We just all not stop doing that
and just get on with, you know, running the country.
Probably not a talk Garry would have want for sourness
as well.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Of course, the Greens hate the Electoral Integrity Act, which
is what the Wacker Jumping Law is formerly known as.
Despite being forced to swallow that dead rat back in
twenty eighteen the coalition agreement, there seems virtually no chance
that they will use the party acting option to force
Tanner from Parliament unless they have a massive change of heart.
(05:33):
They held back from doing so when Elizabeth Ketty Kitty quit,
But there's a big difference because this is very very
early on in the electoral cycle. We're only six months in.
Elizabeth Ketty Kitty only warmed a seat for five months,
so the taxpayer only had to pay for a useless
MP for five months, which is still five months too
(05:54):
many Darling Tana would be their impotent and hopeless for
two years, two years and more if she chooses to
stage a sit in in defiance of her form a party.
This is the perfect time for the Green Party to
dismount from their increasingly lame high horses. Idealism and zalatory
(06:18):
are all very well and good, but you might in
principle disagree with a law, but you must invoke it
if you can, if you don't want to rip off
the taxpayer. Making tough decisions as a part of politics,
and it's time the Green Party grew up and showed
that pragmatism trump's idealism when it comes to protecting the voters.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
If you've been paying any attention to what's been going
on in politics and New Zealand in the last couple
of years, why would you ever vote for the Green
Party ever again? But then, of course you do wonder
(07:01):
if the chemograph that tends to vote for the Green
Party is paying any attention to what's happening in New
Zealand politics. Don't add sometimes I sound like a grumpy
old man when I say stuff like that. Okay, let's
talk g string bikinis. Why because they want to band
them at the pool and you put us.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
I make them my crochet at us and crocheted G
strings there they're beautiful.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Now.
Speaker 8 (07:27):
No, look, I'm partial to crocheting, and and my dear
late mum was brilliant at crocheting, so I love crocheting,
but I cannot comprehend crocheting in a very thin line
in that part of the Batoux.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
Well, I'm not being rude that you sort of make
a bag for guys.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Oh yes, and a.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Sort of rele for girls. Sorry.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
And is it company?
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Oh yes, very company?
Speaker 8 (08:02):
Do you Where do you sell your crocheted G strings?
Speaker 7 (08:05):
It's by word of mouth and I'm.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
Sure there's plenty of that. So in fact, you're saying,
I need less publicity is what you're saying.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
No more publicity on the G string and the betweeny
top with it.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (08:20):
And so as far as how you used to do it,
what was that like? You know what?
Speaker 7 (08:26):
What?
Speaker 8 (08:27):
Not just that not the physical feeling of wearing a
G string, but what's the feeling like of knowing that
people are noticing you when you're wearing that.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
It actually gave me a buzz because they were looking
at me and thinking I must have it either a
good body or not a good body. But people, if
you wear something like that, you expect to be looked at.
It's like the short skirts and the tops with hard
lady thinking. Now with breasts showing and pregnant moms don't
(08:57):
wear loose tops anymore. They show their bub off and
it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, potentially, I suppose it's beautiful. Was it beautiful on everybody?
And I suppose you could make that argument for any
article of clothing in.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
The news talks it bean.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
If you want to hear what Marcus has to say
about it, should we go there? Let's go there.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
My thoughts are, firstly, what about the beach. I wasn't
bonding not so long ago, everyone was wearing those g strings,
didn't seem to be a problem. No one's trying to
ban them from the beach. So there's that. Why would
be different from a pool on the beach, So there's that.
The second thing I kind of think with the g
string is before long. I mean, if there's one item
(09:52):
of clothing the whims of fashion, it's women's tugs. And
this is well out of my area here, but you
know what is in one year will be gone within
six months. My gosh, next year it might be the
full one piece. So I reckon if she can actually
spend the whole time getting a petitioner go and get
(10:12):
the things banned. By the time the petition gets enacted,
it will all turned over that we're wearing something different.
And see, you've got to think of the reputational damage
you're due to her kids. That her mother's trying to
ban the ges string just seems so daft. In the
fourth point, is there a fourth point? I think at
about four point with us? Okay, I think what the
(10:37):
fourth point is?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Brilliant? I wonder if you remembered it later on. But
my fourth point is, as opposed to the beach, why
why do women wear the style of bikini for a
(11:05):
bikini at all? There is a certain exhibitionism element to it,
isn't there? Surely? And I guess also at the beach
there's a sun tan element to it as well. So
(11:25):
far outside my comfort zone talking about this, But how
do either of those things apply at the pool? I
just don't I don't get. I mean, I don't care
you wear what you won't go nude? I don't care.
But are you wanting to show off your bod at
(11:50):
the pool, at the town pool. It seems a bit strange.
And also you're not getting a tan at the pool
and you put it in the middle of the window.
That's for damn sure.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
But I guess is.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It just because it's the only here are togs you've got? Maybe?
I don't know. We'd on two issue Tuesday that that
was the second biggest issue. Maybe I'm miss Son, I
(12:27):
am a Glenn Hart. That has been newsks, it'd been
I'll see you back here again with more big issues tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
News talkers talking.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Has it been.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
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