July 11, 2024 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB) Told You So/Running Even Further Aground/Pull Your Socks Up, Joe/Uninformed Free Bike Outrage/Not Safe for Work
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Dean Hart and we
are looking back at Thursday. We still haven't really sorted
out this cook straight ferry debacle yet, have we? And
the Biden Biden is still under pressure. King Aura has
found another way to infuriate people by giving electric bikes
(00:47):
away or something, and Marcus tries to shave at work.
But before any of that, Yeah, so the ocr unchanged.
How has this affected business confidence?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Do you believe that business will pick up, that you
can finally put your house on the market if you've
been holding off until confidence improved, and that's what it is,
that you will finally have a few more cents left
over after the bills have been paid. Is the phone
starting to ring again with people booking more jobs or
(01:21):
are we not out of the woods yet? What is
your sense on the ground. If you're one of those
who's looking to reset your mortgage, refix your mortgage, are
you looking to six months a year? Are you looking
at two years. If you're a retailer, are you now
thinking okay, October November, December might be might be a
(01:45):
good period for me. I might start to see profit
rather than barely breaking even? And does confidence breed confidence
when you're talking to friends, when you're talking to colleagues,
are you starting to feel more positive? Are there more
(02:08):
good news stories coming from your friends, your colleagues, those
in your community.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
See I've always claimed, and you can go back and
find recordings of me saying this that the New Zealand
economy is so small that it's also agile, and I've
seen it all before. I'm old enough now, I've seen
tough power financial times and good times and I really
do feel that, and I don't I'm.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
No believe me.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I'm no expert on this stuff, but I have seen
that our economy has the ability to change around quite quickly.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
And by that I mean because of the size.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
It's not like an ocean liner that has to be
stopped well in advance of heading the war before you
can change direction and get going again.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Am I'm making any sense at all?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Probably not news talk actually speaking of big boats so well,
the fallout after the araterry running aground. It just keeps
falling out.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Five full days later, the email is leaked, and what
did the inter Island do. Still they do not confirm
that it is true. They hide behind their ongoing investigations
and say they can't do anything today Thursday, now, six
full days later, I am yet to see them put
their big boy pants on and admit, yep, it is
what happened, because it is clearly what happened, because they
(03:40):
said it is what happened in an email that we
were not ever supposed to see.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Now.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Look, I understand why organizations do this kind of thing,
why they order inquiries and then hide behind inquiries for
months on end. At times, it's because it buys them time,
and that time allows them to devise a good pr
strategy and then hit us with the information. So ow,
but everything's fixed now, you don't need to worry about it.
And also it buys them time for us to lose interest.
But it is a really bad strategy because it makes
(04:05):
them look dishonest, and that is unfortunately how the Interro
Islander looks today. They knew full well what happened. It
is absolutely embarrassing to them. What happened, So they don't
want to tell us, yes, that is what happened. But
if they're not honest about it, they're the opposite. They're dishonest.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It's weird, what is it because in this case, I mean,
we don't know all the facts, as he says there,
but you get the feeling that it was one idiot
who did something really dumb or didn't do something smart.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
And I just don't know why they don't throw that
one into the up under.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
The bus because isn't that easier to say, ah, she
turns out we had an idiot whoops rather than because
otherwise it just ends up being a systemic failure, you know,
talk right. So Joe Biden, I mean he's putting on
a brave face, but.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yeah, lots and lots and lots and lots of people are.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Coming out against him now, Nancy Pelosi and George Clooney
adding their names to the list.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
I want him to do whatever he decides to do.
Let's just hold off whatever you're thinking. Either tell somebody privately,
but you don't have to put that out on the
table until we see how we go this week.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
So what is the problem with that? Well, remember Biden
has already said this.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I am running and gonna win again.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
So now you have the most influential, one of the
most influential people in the Democratic Party saying he needs
to make a decision about whether to run, and you
have the candidate saying I've made the decision. I am running.
It's very messy, it's huge, actually, and the White House
is going to be in a tailspin over this, and
(05:49):
it doesn't stop there. Overnight, Michael Bennett became the first
Democratic Senator to publicly say that Joe Biden can't win.
In fact, Donald Trump is on track, I think, to
win the selection and maybe win it by a landslide.
In a political crisis, there are headlines like gunfire. Then
there are bombs, which cause massive, often irreversible damage to
(06:13):
a candidate. They can change the direction of a war,
a turning point if you will. And make no mistake
when this happens in politics, it's always actually worse when
it's friendly fire. Remember just a couple of days to
go at NATO and one solo press conference from the
Commander in Chief on Thursday ending this seventy fifth anniversary
(06:36):
NATO summit. The only question now is whether it could
also become the platform for the eighty two year old
president to also end his political career.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I just can't see it happening. I'm looking at him
sitting with Zelenski right now in DC.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Looks fine.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Unfortunately, he's got his LEAs cross and it's mean that
his right pantsley has risen up above the height of
his right sock. That's always a bad look. I can
see skin, but at least I can see skin. It's
not like, you know, support supporting hose or anything like that.
I guess we'll wait and see what he has to say,
(07:15):
if he says anything.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Now, what's this do with AURA and electric bikes? And
can this organization do anything right?
Speaker 8 (07:26):
So here we have people living in a AURA complex
who have been part of a trial program which is
said to improve family dynamics, improve people's ability to get
to job interviews, approve kids' ability and desire to go
to school, improve the family mental health where parents are
(07:49):
now partaking and exercise with their kids. And we're meant
to be mad about it. No, we should be celebrating this.
So diving a little bit deeper, there are four e
bikes and eleven push bikes. The people who've put the
program together say, quote significant positive impacts, and you've got
the bike stored in a purpose built thirty five thous cage.
(08:09):
Why is there a purpose built for thirty five thousand
dollars cage? And should we be outraged at that? No,
we shouldn't. That's so that the bikes don't get stolen.
None of the bikes have been stolen. And yes, the
pushbikes have shown some wear and tear and maybe a
bit of rough use, because that's what kids do with bikes. Kids,
whether they're from rich homes, middle class homes, or poor homes,
that's what happens. They're having fun with the bikes. None
(08:31):
of them have been stolen, and the e bikes are
in great condition. And I think, but when you look
through all of this and you see that this is
something which allows say, someone who's in a vulnerable position,
who can't afford a car and struggles with public transport,
who can now get to that job interview. And this
is not just a hypothetical, This is an absolute example
(08:52):
of one of the tenants of this Kayinger Aura complex.
She was able to get to the job interview, and
she got the job. Likewise, it's not a pluck from
the air hypothetical about the kid who now wants to
go to school. There are kids in this complex who
now are able to ride those bikes and go to school,
and now they have an appreciation for school that they
(09:12):
didn't have when they were walking a greater distance. These
are vulnerable people. Often. We know that the people who
are struggling financially, obviously, and so this is good. And
I think why we're so conditioned to think that community
projects designed to improve people's lives are a waste of
money kind of says something more about us than it
(09:32):
does about these projects. I'm all for it, and it's
a trial. It's been successful. If you read the headline,
you'll be mad. If you read the whole story, you'll go, no,
that's good, so let's have more of it.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
No, no, no, no, we're not interested in the whole story.
It's too hard. It's too hard to think about all
the facts. We just want to go lurching off in
whatever direction we prefer to lurch off and find the
facts that support.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
The lurching news.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Talk z it bean.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
You don't want to lurch and shave. It's a complicated business.
Shaving actually to try and do it at work. I
can't believe I said that this happened, But he I think.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
I've lived today is as far as the workplace goes,
the one thing you should never do the work at
the workplace is have a shave. I was I thought,
cheapest career. I've been away from it and shaved for
a while. I kind of thought, oh, I think I
needed shave. So I brought some raises and some shaving
foam and came to work. But tell you what, I'm
(10:35):
not normally a raiser and foam shaver for obvious reasons,
because boy, oh boy, did I not planing that within
seconds there was foam everywhere. It was on my hand,
I touched door hand as just a disaster, just an
absolute disaster. It was like a bad episode of some
(10:56):
others do ever him and I don't even know what
I was thinking. Actually, I still feel I still feel
kind of quite shocked with how far the foam went. Anyway,
was my classic case of planning to do something without
any kind of planning or a plan that was executed
(11:16):
to or well executed to get it done. So anyway,
and two about twenty minutes just to Fiesco, foam all
over my clothes, foam all over the radio station anyway.
So I've been cleaning that up frantically, trying to get
myself on my spot before I start the show. So
there we go. I'm not saying that's a talk back topic,
but cheap as creepers.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Mysterious stuff does happen in work bathrooms, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
It's like work kitchens.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Why do people treat them differently to the kitchens at
home and the bathrooms at home. Sometimes, you know, it
looks like bombs have gone off, murders have been committed,
various other atrocities. Occasionally it's like Walter White's been in
there cooking something up. Come on, come on, guys, lift
(12:05):
your game. And with that appeal, I draw this podcast
and this week to an end, and I'll see you
back here again with a weekend edition on Monday.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
News Talk is Talking zid bean. For more from News
Talk sid B, listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk sed be you Talk said.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Dean Hart and we
are looking back at Thursday. We still haven't really sorted
out this cook straight ferry debacle yet, have we? And
the Biden Biden is still under pressure. King Aura has
found another way to infuriate people by giving electric bikes
(00:47):
away or something, and Marcus tries to shave at work.
But before any of that, Yeah, so the ocr unchanged.
How has this affected business confidence?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Do you believe that business will pick up, that you
can finally put your house on the market if you've
been holding off until confidence improved, and that's what it is,
that you will finally have a few more cents left
over after the bills have been paid. Is the phone
starting to ring again with people booking more jobs or
(01:21):
are we not out of the woods yet? What is
your sense on the ground. If you're one of those
who's looking to reset your mortgage, refix your mortgage, are
you looking to six months a year? Are you looking
at two years. If you're a retailer, are you now
thinking okay, October November, December might be might be a
(01:45):
good period for me. I might start to see profit
rather than barely breaking even? And does confidence breed confidence
when you're talking to friends, when you're talking to colleagues,
are you starting to feel more positive? Are there more
(02:08):
good news stories coming from your friends, your colleagues, those
in your community.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
See I've always claimed, and you can go back and
find recordings of me saying this that the New Zealand
economy is so small that it's also agile, and I've
seen it all before. I'm old enough now, I've seen
tough power financial times and good times and I really
do feel that, and I don't I'm.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
No believe me.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I'm no expert on this stuff, but I have seen
that our economy has the ability to change around quite quickly.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
And by that I mean because of the size.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
It's not like an ocean liner that has to be
stopped well in advance of heading the war before you
can change direction and get going again.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Am I'm making any sense at all?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Probably not news talk actually speaking of big boats so well,
the fallout after the araterry running aground. It just keeps
falling out.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Five full days later, the email is leaked, and what
did the inter Island do. Still they do not confirm
that it is true. They hide behind their ongoing investigations
and say they can't do anything today Thursday, now, six
full days later, I am yet to see them put
their big boy pants on and admit, yep, it is
what happened, because it is clearly what happened, because they
(03:40):
said it is what happened in an email that we
were not ever supposed to see.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Now.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Look, I understand why organizations do this kind of thing,
why they order inquiries and then hide behind inquiries for
months on end. At times, it's because it buys them time,
and that time allows them to devise a good pr
strategy and then hit us with the information. So ow,
but everything's fixed now, you don't need to worry about it.
And also it buys them time for us to lose interest.
But it is a really bad strategy because it makes
(04:05):
them look dishonest, and that is unfortunately how the Interro
Islander looks today. They knew full well what happened. It
is absolutely embarrassing to them. What happened, So they don't
want to tell us, yes, that is what happened. But
if they're not honest about it, they're the opposite. They're dishonest.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It's weird, what is it because in this case, I mean,
we don't know all the facts, as he says there,
but you get the feeling that it was one idiot
who did something really dumb or didn't do something smart.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
And I just don't know why they don't throw that
one into the up under.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
The bus because isn't that easier to say, ah, she
turns out we had an idiot whoops rather than because
otherwise it just ends up being a systemic failure, you know,
talk right. So Joe Biden, I mean he's putting on
a brave face, but.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yeah, lots and lots and lots and lots of people are.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Coming out against him now, Nancy Pelosi and George Clooney
adding their names to the list.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
I want him to do whatever he decides to do.
Let's just hold off whatever you're thinking. Either tell somebody privately,
but you don't have to put that out on the
table until we see how we go this week.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
So what is the problem with that? Well, remember Biden
has already said this.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I am running and gonna win again.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
So now you have the most influential, one of the
most influential people in the Democratic Party saying he needs
to make a decision about whether to run, and you
have the candidate saying I've made the decision. I am running.
It's very messy, it's huge, actually, and the White House
is going to be in a tailspin over this, and
(05:49):
it doesn't stop there. Overnight, Michael Bennett became the first
Democratic Senator to publicly say that Joe Biden can't win.
In fact, Donald Trump is on track, I think, to
win the selection and maybe win it by a landslide.
In a political crisis, there are headlines like gunfire. Then
there are bombs, which cause massive, often irreversible damage to
(06:13):
a candidate. They can change the direction of a war,
a turning point if you will. And make no mistake
when this happens in politics, it's always actually worse when
it's friendly fire. Remember just a couple of days to
go at NATO and one solo press conference from the
Commander in Chief on Thursday ending this seventy fifth anniversary
(06:36):
NATO summit. The only question now is whether it could
also become the platform for the eighty two year old
president to also end his political career.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I just can't see it happening. I'm looking at him
sitting with Zelenski right now in DC.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Looks fine.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Unfortunately, he's got his LEAs cross and it's mean that
his right pantsley has risen up above the height of
his right sock. That's always a bad look. I can
see skin, but at least I can see skin. It's
not like, you know, support supporting hose or anything like that.
I guess we'll wait and see what he has to say,
(07:15):
if he says anything.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Now, what's this do with AURA and electric bikes? And
can this organization do anything right?
Speaker 8 (07:26):
So here we have people living in a AURA complex
who have been part of a trial program which is
said to improve family dynamics, improve people's ability to get
to job interviews, approve kids' ability and desire to go
to school, improve the family mental health where parents are
(07:49):
now partaking and exercise with their kids. And we're meant
to be mad about it. No, we should be celebrating this.
So diving a little bit deeper, there are four e
bikes and eleven push bikes. The people who've put the
program together say, quote significant positive impacts, and you've got
the bike stored in a purpose built thirty five thous cage.
(08:09):
Why is there a purpose built for thirty five thousand
dollars cage? And should we be outraged at that? No,
we shouldn't. That's so that the bikes don't get stolen.
None of the bikes have been stolen. And yes, the
pushbikes have shown some wear and tear and maybe a
bit of rough use, because that's what kids do with bikes. Kids,
whether they're from rich homes, middle class homes, or poor homes,
that's what happens. They're having fun with the bikes. None
(08:31):
of them have been stolen, and the e bikes are
in great condition. And I think, but when you look
through all of this and you see that this is
something which allows say, someone who's in a vulnerable position,
who can't afford a car and struggles with public transport,
who can now get to that job interview. And this
is not just a hypothetical, This is an absolute example
(08:52):
of one of the tenants of this Kayinger Aura complex.
She was able to get to the job interview, and
she got the job. Likewise, it's not a pluck from
the air hypothetical about the kid who now wants to
go to school. There are kids in this complex who
now are able to ride those bikes and go to school,
and now they have an appreciation for school that they
(09:12):
didn't have when they were walking a greater distance. These
are vulnerable people. Often. We know that the people who
are struggling financially, obviously, and so this is good. And
I think why we're so conditioned to think that community
projects designed to improve people's lives are a waste of
money kind of says something more about us than it
(09:32):
does about these projects. I'm all for it, and it's
a trial. It's been successful. If you read the headline,
you'll be mad. If you read the whole story, you'll go, no,
that's good, so let's have more of it.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
No, no, no, no, we're not interested in the whole story.
It's too hard. It's too hard to think about all
the facts. We just want to go lurching off in
whatever direction we prefer to lurch off and find the
facts that support.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
The lurching news.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Talk z it bean.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
You don't want to lurch and shave. It's a complicated business.
Shaving actually to try and do it at work. I
can't believe I said that this happened, But he I think.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
I've lived today is as far as the workplace goes,
the one thing you should never do the work at
the workplace is have a shave. I was I thought,
cheapest career. I've been away from it and shaved for
a while. I kind of thought, oh, I think I
needed shave. So I brought some raises and some shaving
foam and came to work. But tell you what, I'm
(10:35):
not normally a raiser and foam shaver for obvious reasons,
because boy, oh boy, did I not planing that within
seconds there was foam everywhere. It was on my hand,
I touched door hand as just a disaster, just an
absolute disaster. It was like a bad episode of some
(10:56):
others do ever him and I don't even know what
I was thinking. Actually, I still feel I still feel
kind of quite shocked with how far the foam went. Anyway,
was my classic case of planning to do something without
any kind of planning or a plan that was executed
(11:16):
to or well executed to get it done. So anyway,
and two about twenty minutes just to Fiesco, foam all
over my clothes, foam all over the radio station anyway.
So I've been cleaning that up frantically, trying to get
myself on my spot before I start the show. So
there we go. I'm not saying that's a talk back topic,
but cheap as creepers.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Mysterious stuff does happen in work bathrooms, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
It's like work kitchens.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Why do people treat them differently to the kitchens at
home and the bathrooms at home. Sometimes, you know, it
looks like bombs have gone off, murders have been committed,
various other atrocities. Occasionally it's like Walter White's been in
there cooking something up. Come on, come on, guys, lift
(12:05):
your game. And with that appeal, I draw this podcast
and this week to an end, and I'll see you
back here again with a weekend edition on Monday.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
News Talk is Talking zid bean. For more from News
Talk sid B, listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
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