July 24, 2024 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) The Prognosis for Health NZ Ain't Great/We're So Good at Drugs/Oceans Justice Probably Not a Job/How Many Spades Make a Highway?/Marcus Torched
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
You Talk said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to
the bean for Thursday, first of yesterday's news. I am
Glen Hart and we are looking back at Wednesday. Drug
use are pup up. Great job everyone, I no, hang on,
that's bad. I think Darleen Tana back doing the hard
Mahe apparently the Northland Highway is just but moments away
(00:47):
four lane Highway all the way to Fangra and Marcus
has a broken torch. But before any of that, so
health in z or de fut to order, depending on
when you work there, I think broken beyond repair. What's
going on?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
If you take Leavy's word for it, he says they
don't need more money. They basically just don't know how
to spend efficiently within the organization as it stands. So
I mean that's mismanagement, short and simple, start to finish.
And the whole thing for me was a farce. They
said we need to push into the regions, that's where
the decision making is made. What isn't it that what
(01:25):
we said? We didn't need, We needed more centralization, we
needed a national service. And now we're going out to
the regions again, apparently hiring four regional czars. Why did
we spend all this money to set this organization up?
It's so frustrating to listen to. They also said, we're
never going to achieve the proper transition from the DHBs
to this new organization in two years. Are you serious?
(01:49):
Imagine a private business changing its operating model and two
years in saying oh, the change hasn't worked, but it's
still early days. It just wouldn't happen. And then there
was this levy who sits on a whole bunch of
boards and knows what he's talking about. Casually said that
their spending controls and checks and balances are not up
to scratch.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Internal and management controls are much weaker than I would
have expected. So we have spending problems all over the show.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
What an absolute cluster. I hate to be negative, I
really do. I know it's early in the morning. I
hate to be negative, but I just lost all the
will to live yesterday. Just as simple we request from me,
let's make sure that when we appoint boards and executives
that they actually know what they're doing. They can read
a spreadsheet. Good luck, Lester, I think you'll need it.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, that's a good point from Ryan there five twenty
five am. It does seem too early to lose the
will to live. I mean you've got a lot of
day left at that point. Himn you with no will
to live? That's some hard yards.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Get used to it, Ryan News talk.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Has it been now other health matters? Our drag uses
up record money being spent on the results of drug
use for harm. Their drug use does HM not good?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
So what are you seeing in your community?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Well, I'll tell you all. I live in South Auckland
and this is where I live. There is a significant
use of it, but it's it's undercover and very well
undercover too because no one wants to get caught with
meth because it's an instant jail. But what they're doing
(03:42):
is they're having theth parties and they try and make
themselves above the normal people in society and they think
that the struggle by providing it there will do that,
and and yes it does. It seems to lift them up.
(04:08):
And it's said because the whole communities paying the benefit
of it.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And we're paying the price of it. So, Barry, how
are you seeing this? Is this a vibe you're picking up?
Or where are you seeing this?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
I'm seeing it from just looking out the window. Now
I see a person go to the shopping buy milk
and bread and he comes back with a bag of
met Yes, I've.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Had the same problem when I go to the supermarket.
Do you get tempted into Oh, there's a new trucol
ball that I haven't tried, and then you get home
and you realize you'ven't got the milk in the bananas.
I'm not sure which all the myths are. Talk you
need to take your job more seriously. All right, Darling Tanner,
you need to take your job. Hang on, what is
your job now?
Speaker 6 (04:50):
But exactly what kind of work will they do? Sam
Mike Coleskin's producer said they replied to text by text
to that question with I'm honestly just keen to knuckle
down and get on with the work. I'm determined to
do ocean's protection justice. Thanks with an ex again for
(05:13):
reaching out. So ocean's protection justice. Well, heavens knows the
oceans need protecting. There also might be a wee bit
of self interest at play here. Now that Tana's husband,
Christian hoff Neilson can no longer bring home the Danish
(05:36):
pastries given his business has gone into liquidation, someone has
to be earning a crust. I would have thought, given
Ms Tanna's impressive resume, and despite the hohohah over their ignominious,
albeit brief time in Parliament, shared be able to find
a good paying job somewhere, But it appears not. Might
(06:00):
be hard work finding a job when you've already got one.
Possession is nine tenths of the law, and if you've
planted your atox under the back seat of a leather
seat in the Parliamentary chamber, good as gold, you've got
the job. They are staying put And do you know what,
for the next two and a half years we will
(06:24):
get the benefit of Ms Tanner's mucky on ocean's protection.
Justice Lucky lucky oceans, Lucky lucky Kiwis.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I'm all for justice for oceans, whatever that means. I
just feel like it's quite a sort of a laser
focused job description she's written for herself.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
There isn't it right.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I get him out of running head down on the
highway all the way to fung a. A ah, well, eventually.
I mean they've got to obviously build it first. And
before they build it, they've got to get all the
approvals and buy all the land and build all the
plan of the committees.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
And I'm always just a little bit shocked at how
much poverty there is up there, and on such a
big scale, and in just one place. And I reckon,
if there are people in this country who've still never
been up North, and there will be plenty of them,
they would be shocked to see what's going on up there.
And part of the reason why that is so I
guess so unique to Northland is because there just isn't
(07:31):
enough investment in that part of the world, which is
surprising obviously, because it's some of the some of the
best part of New Zealand, right it's got some of
the best weather in the country. But it's just too
blinking hard to get to. I mean, even if the
Brinduans are open, it's still a goat track once you
get past Walkworth, it's just a winding and congested pain
in the ass to get up there. Now I've seen
it already, as you can imagine, because you know, roads
(07:52):
are a bit of a culture war thing.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
I've seen.
Speaker 8 (07:54):
The criticism has already started up. One transport commentator says,
there are other roads that are more important than a
road to the North. There are other roads that can
be built for cheaper and building a road to the
North would mean we can't use the money and we
can't use the resources somewhere else in the country that
needs it more desperately. Tell that to Northland is to
their face, because that is exactly the kind of attitude
that has them in the position they are right now,
(08:15):
which is having poor roading with their main road in
and out closed for months because the roading network is
just so bad. The piece of road that's already been built,
this is a bit up to Walkworth, has made such
a huge difference that people rave about it. Right, if
you take that all the way to far at A
you're talking. I mean, it's not going to suddenly transform
the North. That is clearly going to take decades once
(08:36):
you open it up, but it will start to Without it.
The North aink going ain't going nowhere. But if we
actually start to do this, not only Northland, but I
think the rest of the country will reap the rewards
and earn the dividends from opening that place up.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
By the way, there was a lot of talk yesterday
about being shove already and getting your spade in the ground,
like that's the first step of building a road is
just a bunch of people the spades.
Speaker 9 (09:03):
We take a long.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Time to build a four lay highway with a bunch
of spades. But I guess you got to do. Don't
wear news talk it been now. I was a bit
disappointed with this next cut, and it was called torch Chat.
It was sent to me by Marcus, largest producer, and
I thought they were talking about the Olympic torch and
the fact that Snoop Dog was going to be carrying
it at one stage. But it wasn't that torch. It
(09:25):
was Marcus's torch. It's broken and he doesn't know how
to fix it.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Hey, I sort of ring up and give you some
hints on how to fix a torch. I was actually
just about to go sleep, but I've heard you need
a bit of help, so I sort of ring up
and tell you you can't really fix electronic products just
by looking at.
Speaker 10 (09:42):
Well, according to YouTube, you're supposed to get sandpaper and
file down the top bottom.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
So theres the things.
Speaker 10 (09:52):
Okay, you know, Jason, Am I going to send it
to you?
Speaker 4 (09:58):
No? You're why not? Why not you all the game
fixed torches? You don't just give it electronic electronic?
Speaker 10 (10:08):
But what a beautifulness, what a beautiful thing this would
be if suddenly, how's the torch, Marcus, how's the torch going?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
That?
Speaker 10 (10:15):
You're fixed?
Speaker 6 (10:15):
No?
Speaker 10 (10:16):
Good things you need.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
You need to learn how to do it yourself, and
it's not hard.
Speaker 10 (10:21):
Then I got to go buy all the testing gear
just rather, it's.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Like fifteen dollars for a multimeter, maybe less.
Speaker 9 (10:30):
I'll give you a hundred, ten I give you.
Speaker 10 (10:32):
I'll give you a hundred to fix it. Jason.
Speaker 9 (10:35):
No, No, My theory is, why don't you just put it?
Speaker 10 (10:40):
I have pulled it to bits a hundred times.
Speaker 9 (10:44):
On what's happened when you pulled it?
Speaker 10 (10:46):
Well, nothing's happened. You get the batteries, you take those out,
the springs, you check the points, you check the connections.
You remove the bit with a bulb, but the bulbs
just an LED light emitting diode, so there's nothing there.
And then you screw it back together. Then you screw
it back together with great excitement and hope and you
turn the switch on, knowing it's going to go. It
(11:07):
just doesn't go. The world laughs at you.
Speaker 9 (11:10):
Is there any more? Is there extra proach you can
pull it? The bits? Was only that place you can
pull the bits? You mean well to me, I'd pull
it to bits and if I bugget, I'd say, I'm good.
I've had to go. But I haven't got one of
those torches, so I can't.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Will You're lucky.
Speaker 10 (11:28):
You're lucky you haven't got one, because it's been in
my life.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Man, people got fired up about the torch, didn't they.
What does he just do what a normal person does
and use the one on his phone? Nobody else uses
any other kind of talks to They just quietly. I
do actually have one that I wear on my head
when I walk the dog at night, and that's only
because I broake my shoulder because I fell over on
a sloppy foot path last year. So yes, I look
(11:54):
like a nerd, but hopefully I won't break my shoulder again.
You know what they say, once bitten by the footpath
and your shoulder by shy. I think, George, we watched
it that. Thanks for listening to this episode of Newstalks.
Ed been if you dare, come back tomorrow and we'll
(12:17):
do it again.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
See you then, News Talking Talking zed Bean. For more
from News Talk sed B, listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk SEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You Talk said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to
the bean for Thursday, first of yesterday's news. I am
Glen Hart and we are looking back at Wednesday. Drug
use are pup up. Great job everyone, I no, hang on,
that's bad. I think Darleen Tana back doing the hard
Mahe apparently the Northland Highway is just but moments away
(00:47):
four lane Highway all the way to Fangra and Marcus
has a broken torch. But before any of that, so
health in z or de fut to order, depending on
when you work there, I think broken beyond repair. What's
going on?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
If you take Leavy's word for it, he says they
don't need more money. They basically just don't know how
to spend efficiently within the organization as it stands. So
I mean that's mismanagement, short and simple, start to finish.
And the whole thing for me was a farce. They
said we need to push into the regions, that's where
the decision making is made. What isn't it that what
(01:25):
we said? We didn't need, We needed more centralization, we
needed a national service. And now we're going out to
the regions again, apparently hiring four regional czars. Why did
we spend all this money to set this organization up?
It's so frustrating to listen to. They also said, we're
never going to achieve the proper transition from the DHBs
to this new organization in two years. Are you serious?
(01:49):
Imagine a private business changing its operating model and two
years in saying oh, the change hasn't worked, but it's
still early days. It just wouldn't happen. And then there
was this levy who sits on a whole bunch of
boards and knows what he's talking about. Casually said that
their spending controls and checks and balances are not up
to scratch.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Internal and management controls are much weaker than I would
have expected. So we have spending problems all over the show.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
What an absolute cluster. I hate to be negative, I
really do. I know it's early in the morning. I
hate to be negative, but I just lost all the
will to live yesterday. Just as simple we request from me,
let's make sure that when we appoint boards and executives
that they actually know what they're doing. They can read
a spreadsheet. Good luck, Lester, I think you'll need it.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, that's a good point from Ryan there five twenty
five am. It does seem too early to lose the
will to live. I mean you've got a lot of
day left at that point. Himn you with no will
to live? That's some hard yards.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Get used to it, Ryan News talk.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Has it been now other health matters? Our drag uses
up record money being spent on the results of drug
use for harm. Their drug use does HM not good?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
So what are you seeing in your community?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Well, I'll tell you all. I live in South Auckland
and this is where I live. There is a significant
use of it, but it's it's undercover and very well
undercover too because no one wants to get caught with
meth because it's an instant jail. But what they're doing
(03:42):
is they're having theth parties and they try and make
themselves above the normal people in society and they think
that the struggle by providing it there will do that,
and and yes it does. It seems to lift them up.
(04:08):
And it's said because the whole communities paying the benefit
of it.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And we're paying the price of it. So, Barry, how
are you seeing this? Is this a vibe you're picking up?
Or where are you seeing this?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
I'm seeing it from just looking out the window. Now
I see a person go to the shopping buy milk
and bread and he comes back with a bag of
met Yes, I've.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Had the same problem when I go to the supermarket.
Do you get tempted into Oh, there's a new trucol
ball that I haven't tried, and then you get home
and you realize you'ven't got the milk in the bananas.
I'm not sure which all the myths are. Talk you
need to take your job more seriously. All right, Darling Tanner,
you need to take your job. Hang on, what is
your job now?
Speaker 6 (04:50):
But exactly what kind of work will they do? Sam
Mike Coleskin's producer said they replied to text by text
to that question with I'm honestly just keen to knuckle
down and get on with the work. I'm determined to
do ocean's protection justice. Thanks with an ex again for
(05:13):
reaching out. So ocean's protection justice. Well, heavens knows the
oceans need protecting. There also might be a wee bit
of self interest at play here. Now that Tana's husband,
Christian hoff Neilson can no longer bring home the Danish
(05:36):
pastries given his business has gone into liquidation, someone has
to be earning a crust. I would have thought, given
Ms Tanna's impressive resume, and despite the hohohah over their ignominious,
albeit brief time in Parliament, shared be able to find
a good paying job somewhere, But it appears not. Might
(06:00):
be hard work finding a job when you've already got one.
Possession is nine tenths of the law, and if you've
planted your atox under the back seat of a leather
seat in the Parliamentary chamber, good as gold, you've got
the job. They are staying put And do you know what,
for the next two and a half years we will
(06:24):
get the benefit of Ms Tanner's mucky on ocean's protection.
Justice Lucky lucky oceans, Lucky lucky Kiwis.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I'm all for justice for oceans, whatever that means. I
just feel like it's quite a sort of a laser
focused job description she's written for herself.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
There isn't it right.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I get him out of running head down on the
highway all the way to fung a. A ah, well, eventually.
I mean they've got to obviously build it first. And
before they build it, they've got to get all the
approvals and buy all the land and build all the
plan of the committees.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
And I'm always just a little bit shocked at how
much poverty there is up there, and on such a
big scale, and in just one place. And I reckon,
if there are people in this country who've still never
been up North, and there will be plenty of them,
they would be shocked to see what's going on up there.
And part of the reason why that is so I
guess so unique to Northland is because there just isn't
(07:31):
enough investment in that part of the world, which is
surprising obviously, because it's some of the some of the
best part of New Zealand, right it's got some of
the best weather in the country. But it's just too
blinking hard to get to. I mean, even if the
Brinduans are open, it's still a goat track once you
get past Walkworth, it's just a winding and congested pain
in the ass to get up there. Now I've seen
it already, as you can imagine, because you know, roads
(07:52):
are a bit of a culture war thing.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
I've seen.
Speaker 8 (07:54):
The criticism has already started up. One transport commentator says,
there are other roads that are more important than a
road to the North. There are other roads that can
be built for cheaper and building a road to the
North would mean we can't use the money and we
can't use the resources somewhere else in the country that
needs it more desperately. Tell that to Northland is to
their face, because that is exactly the kind of attitude
that has them in the position they are right now,
(08:15):
which is having poor roading with their main road in
and out closed for months because the roading network is
just so bad. The piece of road that's already been built,
this is a bit up to Walkworth, has made such
a huge difference that people rave about it. Right, if
you take that all the way to far at A
you're talking. I mean, it's not going to suddenly transform
the North. That is clearly going to take decades once
(08:36):
you open it up, but it will start to Without it.
The North aink going ain't going nowhere. But if we
actually start to do this, not only Northland, but I
think the rest of the country will reap the rewards
and earn the dividends from opening that place up.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
By the way, there was a lot of talk yesterday
about being shove already and getting your spade in the ground,
like that's the first step of building a road is
just a bunch of people the spades.
Speaker 9 (09:03):
We take a long.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Time to build a four lay highway with a bunch
of spades. But I guess you got to do. Don't
wear news talk it been now. I was a bit
disappointed with this next cut, and it was called torch Chat.
It was sent to me by Marcus, largest producer, and
I thought they were talking about the Olympic torch and
the fact that Snoop Dog was going to be carrying
it at one stage. But it wasn't that torch. It
(09:25):
was Marcus's torch. It's broken and he doesn't know how
to fix it.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Hey, I sort of ring up and give you some
hints on how to fix a torch. I was actually
just about to go sleep, but I've heard you need
a bit of help, so I sort of ring up
and tell you you can't really fix electronic products just
by looking at.
Speaker 10 (09:42):
Well, according to YouTube, you're supposed to get sandpaper and
file down the top bottom.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
So theres the things.
Speaker 10 (09:52):
Okay, you know, Jason, Am I going to send it
to you?
Speaker 4 (09:58):
No? You're why not? Why not you all the game
fixed torches? You don't just give it electronic electronic?
Speaker 10 (10:08):
But what a beautifulness, what a beautiful thing this would
be if suddenly, how's the torch, Marcus, how's the torch going?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
That?
Speaker 10 (10:15):
You're fixed?
Speaker 6 (10:15):
No?
Speaker 10 (10:16):
Good things you need.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
You need to learn how to do it yourself, and
it's not hard.
Speaker 10 (10:21):
Then I got to go buy all the testing gear
just rather, it's.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Like fifteen dollars for a multimeter, maybe less.
Speaker 9 (10:30):
I'll give you a hundred, ten I give you.
Speaker 10 (10:32):
I'll give you a hundred to fix it. Jason.
Speaker 9 (10:35):
No, No, My theory is, why don't you just put it?
Speaker 10 (10:40):
I have pulled it to bits a hundred times.
Speaker 9 (10:44):
On what's happened when you pulled it?
Speaker 10 (10:46):
Well, nothing's happened. You get the batteries, you take those out,
the springs, you check the points, you check the connections.
You remove the bit with a bulb, but the bulbs
just an LED light emitting diode, so there's nothing there.
And then you screw it back together. Then you screw
it back together with great excitement and hope and you
turn the switch on, knowing it's going to go. It
(11:07):
just doesn't go. The world laughs at you.
Speaker 9 (11:10):
Is there any more? Is there extra proach you can
pull it? The bits? Was only that place you can
pull the bits? You mean well to me, I'd pull
it to bits and if I bugget, I'd say, I'm good.
I've had to go. But I haven't got one of
those torches, so I can't.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Will You're lucky.
Speaker 10 (11:28):
You're lucky you haven't got one, because it's been in
my life.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Man, people got fired up about the torch, didn't they.
What does he just do what a normal person does
and use the one on his phone? Nobody else uses
any other kind of talks to They just quietly. I
do actually have one that I wear on my head
when I walk the dog at night, and that's only
because I broake my shoulder because I fell over on
a sloppy foot path last year. So yes, I look
(11:54):
like a nerd, but hopefully I won't break my shoulder again.
You know what they say, once bitten by the footpath
and your shoulder by shy. I think, George, we watched
it that. Thanks for listening to this episode of Newstalks.
Ed been if you dare, come back tomorrow and we'll
(12:17):
do it again.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
See you then, News Talking Talking zed Bean. For more
from News Talk sed B, listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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