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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean the
Weekend Edition. First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart,
and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, which
are the best days to have a weekend on. Traditionally
the Greens head their AGM on this particular weekend. We'll
find out what came out of it. Lucy Lawless has
(00:43):
got her directorial debut coming to Fruition, and ed Byrne
is coming to the country. But he's also been on
The Chase. But before any of that, AH, the Olympics. AH,
the Olympics. So anyway, Jack was watching the opening ceremony
as he was on air.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I think the athlete I'm most excited about these games
outside of the kiwis, of course, is Simone Biles. There
they just aren't really sufficient descriptors for what she is
capable of doing. But seeing her at her best, spinning
and flipping and a kind of blur throwing herself into
(01:23):
unbelievably complex and dangerous contortions, really it really pushes my
ingrained understanding of what the human body is actually capable of.
Like I see Simone Biles at her best, and I
think I sincerely did not know that Homo sapiens were
(01:45):
capable of doing that. I was team Simone when she
pulled out of the last Olympic Games. You know, how
could you throw yourself into the stuff she does without
absolute supreme confidence? And I've watched all of the redemption documentaries.
I've followed her in the years since the last Games.
I know she's getting on a bit in gymnast years,
(02:06):
but she is clearly an all time and I am desperate,
absolutely desperate for her to pull off a gold or
you know five.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
So yeah, interesting that I'm jack so interested in watching
the gymnastics because last weekend Dame Valerie Adams was a
Gymnastics isn't really a thing in New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
So I.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Don't believe nobody really picked up on those comments except me.
Maybe I miss heard her, probably miss heard it, probably
figured it out of context. Don't listen to me, listen
to Dame Valerie.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I do like things like gymnastics, you know, because that's
so such a novelty.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
We don't even really have it here in New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
News talk has it been.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Sorry if I sound a bit jaded when I talk
about the Olympics, and I don't even know why yet.
In fact, just last night my daughter asked me why
I'm not really into it, and I couldn't really explain it.
(03:06):
But I think part of it is because over the
year is we see this tendency to sort of celebrate mediocrity.
And don't get me wrong, all these people who've gone
to the Olympics, they're superhuman, they're differently. You know, I
could never do anything like they're doing. But I don't
know how close we you We need to follow somebody,
(03:29):
you know, who comes eight.
Speaker 7 (03:30):
I get the feeling what you're going to tell me
is that the analysis of the four hundred freestyle can
wait for now.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
There's nothing And there's a great liner like the Pony,
which is there's nothing that you can do now from
a physical perspective that's going to make you any better.
But see, you could do a lot of things to
stuff it up. And I think, what a lot of
inexperienced coaches do you know, first time coaches and the
Olympics quite often what they do is they over analyze
and they say, you know what we've got to do.
(03:58):
We've got to swim it the way Fittmas swim at all.
We've got to play the way the French played in
the sevens. We're going to change everything because that's what
they're doing. The dumbest thing you could ever do is
to change what's worked for you leading up. She's a
world champion, you know, she is a hell of a
good swimmer. So the things that you've done to get
to the Olympics and the things that you've done to
(04:21):
be that good will hold you together right now. And mate, look,
I've been in these rooms in Olympic villages and in
Olympic war rooms as you call them, and you sit
down and say, wow, we've got to turn things around quickly.
The most experienced coaches that I've worked with, so the
don Talbots in swimming and some of the great ones
that have been there over and over again, they just
(04:42):
look at you and say when you ask them what
are we going to do, they basically say, don't change anything.
If anything, I know it sounds really crazy, do less.
The general rule before Olympic game starts is work hard.
There general rule once it starts, once you're in the
environment is rest more, recover more.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Risk more. Oh, hang on, certainly, I'm back in. I
could do that, rest more and recover more. Those are
my specualties which stream do I walk that on the
resting and the recovery. I think that might be my
new favorite sport US talk, right, So let's put the
(05:24):
Olympics aside and for about other things on it over
the weekend. The Greens age ye, and of course people
like us have been talking a lot about the Greens lately,
haven't we.
Speaker 8 (05:35):
The elephant of the room still seems to be there.
That the one of the big stories that's still emerging
is that the decision on Darlne Tana has been pushed
down the road to September. First, just quickly, I mean,
I know that you have a sort of party collective
view on this. What is your view on the walker
jumping legislation?
Speaker 9 (05:54):
Yeah, Look, my view, as it is for all of
our quockers, is first of all, that we don't think
Darling Tenna should be an MP, and that we want
to be guided by a membership when it comes to
the use of that legislation. So I mean to the
point at the beginning, it's not it's not that we're
delaying the use of the legislation. Is that we have
(06:18):
to set out a process where Darlene has to respond
in twenty one working days to how she has affected proportionality.
But most importantly that we want to have a meeting
that allows her members to give a mandate to our
MPs and how we proceed with the use of that legislation.
And that is what makes the Green Party different from
other parties where they may make decisions at an executive level.
(06:42):
We take our democratic minded for members really really seriously.
And that's the difference between an executive type party and
a grassroots movement.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
I guess if that I mean this is not going
to happen. But if the membership said, look, let's leave
it up to Riccardo, what would you choose?
Speaker 9 (06:57):
Well, that's not the decision that's going to be in
front of members, right, whis why we would.
Speaker 8 (07:02):
Which would which? Why would you vote?
Speaker 9 (07:04):
Well, we've the caucuses put together basically a consideration for
the members to give as that men date.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You know, even though I've talked about him and heard
stories about him, I don't know that I've ever actually
heard Riccardo a mends match talk before. What a interesting
sort of half an accent he's got there, and it's
completely distracted me from the fact that he didn't really
(07:35):
say anything about anything. Skillfully done right, Lucy Lawless, she's
been directing, he's been giving on a historical sort of
a project. She is with Francesca to talk about it.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
The last time we spoke it was about this time
in twenty twenty two, and at that point you were traveling,
you were interviewing people, you know, you were right in
the middle of it all, and it was all quite
full on. It's been quite intense, hasn't it.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
It was really intense. It was the scariest, most heart
breaking is the wrong word, but the most intense, the
most rewarding, most joyful, all the extreme emotions you can
have on a job. I had on this one. It
took me a lot of places.
Speaker 10 (08:22):
Have you enjoyed that side of it, of pulling it
all together and the research and the directing and the
producing and everything.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Oh, I've enjoyed every moment of it, I must say.
You know, obviously I didn't do it on my own,
so I had experienced editors sort of guiding me and
a wonderful research assistant when Wen Lee, who I hope
to work with her again in some capacity. Anyway, all
I'm saying is it was an amazing team effort by
(08:49):
a lot of fabulous kiwis to bring the story of
New Zealand's least known famous person.
Speaker 10 (08:56):
For those who aren't familiar with Margaret Moth, tell us
about her.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
So Margaret Moth grew She was born in Gisbon and
then raised in wangan Nui, and she had five siblings,
all born to a couple who really never wanted children,
and all the things that transpired in her childhood made
her somebody who just was hungry for extreme life experiences
(09:24):
sky diving and X and drugs and rollerskating, like night
roller skating, urban environments kind of behavior, you know. And
eventually she went off to war as a camera person
and found her metier it's where she belonged. And then
(09:47):
Madison's used it's kind of a humph for who is
this person really?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
So the next time you know somebody who's who've been
engaging in a bit of nighttime rollerskating, don't write them
off because they could be you know, a valuable war correspondent.
Next thing, you know, news Talk Dan, We're gonna finish
up talking to Burn. I've got a lot of time
(10:14):
for it.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Burn.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
He's hilarious and he's also knowledgeable. Apparently he won the chase?
Did you know in the UK?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Excited as Evonne is to see your show. I really
going to get more than a few questions about the chase.
Speaker 11 (10:25):
You want to know about that? Well, it was actually
my second time appearing on the chase. Yeah, first time
I did it as a as a you know these
was it was me. It was me and Eric Bristow
ended up being the two that went through. I can't
even remember who else was on that episode was. I
feel bad because it was two other celebrities and one
of them was Nadine Daries who was it was an
(10:49):
MP to be the culture secretary despite not understanding anything
about culture or you know. Yeah, and she yeah, she
went to take I remember she went to take the
lower offer. The audience booed her, so she took the
middle offer, showing you know, how easily swayed she was
(11:11):
by public opinion, and then having taken the middle of
her you know, was thick.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
So she got.
Speaker 11 (11:22):
I'm no, I'm not a fan of this.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I'm taking I'm picking that up you.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (11:27):
And then so then it was me and Eric Bristow,
who's no longer with us, but who was It was
a darts player and I got to admit, was not,
you know, the greatest teammate for the final chase. At
one point he buzzed in on a golf question and
then stood there and I literally stand the next to
going past dude pass So that even though the money
(11:50):
I took back to the table was at the time
it was actually a record amount. It was something like
one hundred and sixty thousand or something like that. But
we didn't win it, so it means nothing.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (12:00):
And the second time I did it was four of us.
We all made it through. It was a guy called
doctor Ranch saying it was like this TV.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Doctor who was the red in Kate Bartley, who is
you know she does like she's a reverend, but who
does deeply presenting a lot of your faith based stuff.
And a reality TV star called Tough who came from
a TV show called Made in Chelsea, and me and
between us, yes, we managed it.
Speaker 11 (12:26):
Rump home with the with the Lion's show. So yeah,
the light of it, but they do. I mean, I can,
I can talk about this all night. I know you
feel like I'm not letting you in.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
We did get a lot of detail about the chase there.
I just feel like Jack's not wrong. It is a
cultural sensation here in New Zealand, even though I don't
know if I've ever watched a whole episode all the
way through, but I'm it is such a presence in
(12:56):
New Zealand that you just come into contact with it
without even meaning to.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Be.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
You didn't think that we were going to be talking
about the chase on this podcast unless I put it
in the description? Did I put it in a description?
I haven't done it, actually done the description yet? What
do you think I should do? Should I put it
in the description? Now you're going to go back to
the description and find out, don't you? Are you? I mean,
if you're driving it, probably or not? It's out running.
(13:22):
Listen to this? Do you run?
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Listen to this?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Run a bit faster, in a bit longer, see and
you can tell people, oh, yeah, I listened to the
Newsboks they've been it's I find it's very motivating it
when I run that's I think that you're more of
a rest and recovery kind of a specialist, like now
you aren't you. So you do that rest up, recover,
and we'll see you back here again for another newsborks you've.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Been Tomorrow News Talks Talking Said Bean. For more from
News Talk Said b listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk SEDB You Talk Said.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean the
Weekend Edition. First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart,
and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, which
are the best days to have a weekend on. Traditionally
the Greens head their AGM on this particular weekend. We'll
find out what came out of it. Lucy Lawless has
(00:43):
got her directorial debut coming to Fruition, and ed Byrne
is coming to the country. But he's also been on
The Chase. But before any of that, AH, the Olympics. AH,
the Olympics. So anyway, Jack was watching the opening ceremony
as he was on air.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I think the athlete I'm most excited about these games
outside of the kiwis, of course, is Simone Biles. There
they just aren't really sufficient descriptors for what she is
capable of doing. But seeing her at her best, spinning
and flipping and a kind of blur throwing herself into
(01:23):
unbelievably complex and dangerous contortions, really it really pushes my
ingrained understanding of what the human body is actually capable of.
Like I see Simone Biles at her best, and I
think I sincerely did not know that Homo sapiens were
(01:45):
capable of doing that. I was team Simone when she
pulled out of the last Olympic Games. You know, how
could you throw yourself into the stuff she does without
absolute supreme confidence? And I've watched all of the redemption documentaries.
I've followed her in the years since the last Games.
I know she's getting on a bit in gymnast years,
(02:06):
but she is clearly an all time and I am desperate,
absolutely desperate for her to pull off a gold or
you know five.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
So yeah, interesting that I'm jack so interested in watching
the gymnastics because last weekend Dame Valerie Adams was a
Gymnastics isn't really a thing in New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
So I.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Don't believe nobody really picked up on those comments except me.
Maybe I miss heard her, probably miss heard it, probably
figured it out of context. Don't listen to me, listen
to Dame Valerie.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I do like things like gymnastics, you know, because that's
so such a novelty.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
We don't even really have it here in New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
News talk has it been.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Sorry if I sound a bit jaded when I talk
about the Olympics, and I don't even know why yet.
In fact, just last night my daughter asked me why
I'm not really into it, and I couldn't really explain it.
(03:06):
But I think part of it is because over the
year is we see this tendency to sort of celebrate mediocrity.
And don't get me wrong, all these people who've gone
to the Olympics, they're superhuman, they're differently. You know, I
could never do anything like they're doing. But I don't
know how close we you We need to follow somebody,
(03:29):
you know, who comes eight.
Speaker 7 (03:30):
I get the feeling what you're going to tell me
is that the analysis of the four hundred freestyle can
wait for now.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
There's nothing And there's a great liner like the Pony,
which is there's nothing that you can do now from
a physical perspective that's going to make you any better.
But see, you could do a lot of things to
stuff it up. And I think, what a lot of
inexperienced coaches do you know, first time coaches and the
Olympics quite often what they do is they over analyze
and they say, you know what we've got to do.
(03:58):
We've got to swim it the way Fittmas swim at all.
We've got to play the way the French played in
the sevens. We're going to change everything because that's what
they're doing. The dumbest thing you could ever do is
to change what's worked for you leading up. She's a
world champion, you know, she is a hell of a
good swimmer. So the things that you've done to get
to the Olympics and the things that you've done to
(04:21):
be that good will hold you together right now. And mate, look,
I've been in these rooms in Olympic villages and in
Olympic war rooms as you call them, and you sit
down and say, wow, we've got to turn things around quickly.
The most experienced coaches that I've worked with, so the
don Talbots in swimming and some of the great ones
that have been there over and over again, they just
(04:42):
look at you and say when you ask them what
are we going to do, they basically say, don't change anything.
If anything, I know it sounds really crazy, do less.
The general rule before Olympic game starts is work hard.
There general rule once it starts, once you're in the
environment is rest more, recover more.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Risk more. Oh, hang on, certainly, I'm back in. I
could do that, rest more and recover more. Those are
my specualties which stream do I walk that on the
resting and the recovery. I think that might be my
new favorite sport US talk, right, So let's put the
(05:24):
Olympics aside and for about other things on it over
the weekend. The Greens age ye, and of course people
like us have been talking a lot about the Greens lately,
haven't we.
Speaker 8 (05:35):
The elephant of the room still seems to be there.
That the one of the big stories that's still emerging
is that the decision on Darlne Tana has been pushed
down the road to September. First, just quickly, I mean,
I know that you have a sort of party collective
view on this. What is your view on the walker
jumping legislation?
Speaker 9 (05:54):
Yeah, Look, my view, as it is for all of
our quockers, is first of all, that we don't think
Darling Tenna should be an MP, and that we want
to be guided by a membership when it comes to
the use of that legislation. So I mean to the
point at the beginning, it's not it's not that we're
delaying the use of the legislation. Is that we have
(06:18):
to set out a process where Darlene has to respond
in twenty one working days to how she has affected proportionality.
But most importantly that we want to have a meeting
that allows her members to give a mandate to our
MPs and how we proceed with the use of that legislation.
And that is what makes the Green Party different from
other parties where they may make decisions at an executive level.
(06:42):
We take our democratic minded for members really really seriously.
And that's the difference between an executive type party and
a grassroots movement.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
I guess if that I mean this is not going
to happen. But if the membership said, look, let's leave
it up to Riccardo, what would you choose?
Speaker 9 (06:57):
Well, that's not the decision that's going to be in
front of members, right, whis why we would.
Speaker 8 (07:02):
Which would which? Why would you vote?
Speaker 9 (07:04):
Well, we've the caucuses put together basically a consideration for
the members to give as that men date.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You know, even though I've talked about him and heard
stories about him, I don't know that I've ever actually
heard Riccardo a mends match talk before. What a interesting
sort of half an accent he's got there, and it's
completely distracted me from the fact that he didn't really
(07:35):
say anything about anything. Skillfully done right, Lucy Lawless, she's
been directing, he's been giving on a historical sort of
a project. She is with Francesca to talk about it.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
The last time we spoke it was about this time
in twenty twenty two, and at that point you were traveling,
you were interviewing people, you know, you were right in
the middle of it all, and it was all quite
full on. It's been quite intense, hasn't it.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
It was really intense. It was the scariest, most heart
breaking is the wrong word, but the most intense, the
most rewarding, most joyful, all the extreme emotions you can
have on a job. I had on this one. It
took me a lot of places.
Speaker 10 (08:22):
Have you enjoyed that side of it, of pulling it
all together and the research and the directing and the
producing and everything.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Oh, I've enjoyed every moment of it, I must say.
You know, obviously I didn't do it on my own,
so I had experienced editors sort of guiding me and
a wonderful research assistant when Wen Lee, who I hope
to work with her again in some capacity. Anyway, all
I'm saying is it was an amazing team effort by
(08:49):
a lot of fabulous kiwis to bring the story of
New Zealand's least known famous person.
Speaker 10 (08:56):
For those who aren't familiar with Margaret Moth, tell us
about her.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
So Margaret Moth grew She was born in Gisbon and
then raised in wangan Nui, and she had five siblings,
all born to a couple who really never wanted children,
and all the things that transpired in her childhood made
her somebody who just was hungry for extreme life experiences
(09:24):
sky diving and X and drugs and rollerskating, like night
roller skating, urban environments kind of behavior, you know. And
eventually she went off to war as a camera person
and found her metier it's where she belonged. And then
(09:47):
Madison's used it's kind of a humph for who is
this person really?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
So the next time you know somebody who's who've been
engaging in a bit of nighttime rollerskating, don't write them
off because they could be you know, a valuable war correspondent.
Next thing, you know, news Talk Dan, We're gonna finish
up talking to Burn. I've got a lot of time
(10:14):
for it.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Burn.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
He's hilarious and he's also knowledgeable. Apparently he won the chase?
Did you know in the UK?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Excited as Evonne is to see your show. I really
going to get more than a few questions about the chase.
Speaker 11 (10:25):
You want to know about that? Well, it was actually
my second time appearing on the chase. Yeah, first time
I did it as a as a you know these
was it was me. It was me and Eric Bristow
ended up being the two that went through. I can't
even remember who else was on that episode was. I
feel bad because it was two other celebrities and one
of them was Nadine Daries who was it was an
(10:49):
MP to be the culture secretary despite not understanding anything
about culture or you know. Yeah, and she yeah, she
went to take I remember she went to take the
lower offer. The audience booed her, so she took the
middle offer, showing you know, how easily swayed she was
(11:11):
by public opinion, and then having taken the middle of
her you know, was thick.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
So she got.
Speaker 11 (11:22):
I'm no, I'm not a fan of this.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I'm taking I'm picking that up you.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (11:27):
And then so then it was me and Eric Bristow,
who's no longer with us, but who was It was
a darts player and I got to admit, was not,
you know, the greatest teammate for the final chase. At
one point he buzzed in on a golf question and
then stood there and I literally stand the next to
going past dude pass So that even though the money
(11:50):
I took back to the table was at the time
it was actually a record amount. It was something like
one hundred and sixty thousand or something like that. But
we didn't win it, so it means nothing.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (12:00):
And the second time I did it was four of us.
We all made it through. It was a guy called
doctor Ranch saying it was like this TV.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Doctor who was the red in Kate Bartley, who is
you know she does like she's a reverend, but who
does deeply presenting a lot of your faith based stuff.
And a reality TV star called Tough who came from
a TV show called Made in Chelsea, and me and
between us, yes, we managed it.
Speaker 11 (12:26):
Rump home with the with the Lion's show. So yeah,
the light of it, but they do. I mean, I can,
I can talk about this all night. I know you
feel like I'm not letting you in.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
We did get a lot of detail about the chase there.
I just feel like Jack's not wrong. It is a
cultural sensation here in New Zealand, even though I don't
know if I've ever watched a whole episode all the
way through, but I'm it is such a presence in
(12:56):
New Zealand that you just come into contact with it
without even meaning to.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Be.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
You didn't think that we were going to be talking
about the chase on this podcast unless I put it
in the description? Did I put it in a description?
I haven't done it, actually done the description yet? What
do you think I should do? Should I put it
in the description? Now you're going to go back to
the description and find out, don't you? Are you? I mean,
if you're driving it, probably or not? It's out running.
(13:22):
Listen to this? Do you run?
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Listen to this?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Run a bit faster, in a bit longer, see and
you can tell people, oh, yeah, I listened to the
Newsboks they've been it's I find it's very motivating it
when I run that's I think that you're more of
a rest and recovery kind of a specialist, like now
you aren't you. So you do that rest up, recover,
and we'll see you back here again for another newsborks you've.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Been Tomorrow News Talks Talking Said Bean. For more from
News Talk Said b listen live on air or online,
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