August 5, 2024 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Why Does Sir John Get a Say?/Action On Maths/What Councils Are For/Some Sports Are Silly... Until We Win Them
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Monday. So off the back of
the National Party Conference or a GM or Shouldn't Dig
or whatever it is, they've got an action plan to
help us do maths more, what are councils for? What
(00:47):
are they doing? Why are they calling for an end
to the Israeli Palestinian, Lebanese, Iranian hiszbilla? Who the war?
And we've got some ideas for other Olympic sports that
(01:12):
aren't there that should be well before any of that.
It's back to a national's weekend of being supernational? Why
was John Key there? Exactly?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Section seven AA in the orong Atomitiki Bill is basically
a treaty principle which needs to be removed from the
law because otherwise we will continue to see little Maori
kids being removed from stable, loving homes just because their
foster parents are parking heart the wrong ethnicity. I find
that offensive and also really upsetting. For the children. The
Marine and Coastal Areas Act needs to be amended to
force judges to do what the law says, because you
(01:44):
can't have judges doing the opposite of the laws what
the law says, just because they prefer it that way.
I mean, there is a long list of stuff that
just has to be done, and you can't not do
this stuff because some people want to shout it down.
If you end up doing that, right, if you end
up letting them shout it down, all that you end
up doing is doing nothing. And then you tell the
shouters that you know they will win. If they want
(02:04):
to shut something down in the future, just shout out
some violent things will stop doing it now. I don't
blame John Key for taking this approach because this is
the approach that he took in government.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
For all of his success with the economy and the
finances there, and there were many successes there, he wasn't
very bold when it came to awkward stuff like race relations.
I mean race relations. I get the feeling he actually
tried to actively avoid it because icky things like that
cost political capital and he would much rather just be
in government. Luckily for him, he was the Prime Minister
at a time when he could afford to do that.
He came before Jasinda Arderne, not after Jinda Ardurn and
(02:36):
all the trouble that her government created. It's a different
time now. It calls for boldness. Sure, I would like
everyone to be careful in the language they use, but
I don't want them to cower from a job that
needs to be done.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Okay, wow, So no misunderstanding where heither lies on these issues.
That's look coming in loud and clear news talk. Zeth
Been Dickens, on the other hand, I think he's just
about as sick as I am of hearing people say
(03:07):
we need to bring the temperature down, which I think
Sir John Key, who being seated in America recently thought
I can say that too here.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
And he, I think, feels that the party is going
off brand in relations with Mary. His own governing relied
on a partnership with the Malori Party, which is a
pairing you could never see today. True, the Maori Party
of twenty twenty four is a lot more radical than
the Malordi Party of the day, but still john Keyes
(03:38):
government had positive relations with Mary. Under his watch, they
started the Tewananga or Artelrod. The university was created, Chris
Finnerson had a very good relationship with Mary. He was
well respected as the Treaty negotiations minister at National. In fact,
if you look back through history, has always had good
relationship with Mary, including Doug Graham, even Rob Muldoon. So
(04:03):
John Key's warning to the National Party of today is
that acts New Zealand First's war against the so called
Mardification of New Zealand is going just a bit too far.
And it's in his choice of words, take the temperature
down a bit. And I think that's pretty bang on.
In fact, I think if John Key says it is
(04:24):
pretty bang on. There's a few New Zealanders who vote National.
There's a few New Zealanders who call themselves right wing
Mish was sent to write, who are finding the hostility
towards all things Maori can be a bit jarring.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
What is it with all these ex prime ministers who
keep wanting to have a saying about things I don't understand.
All I've ever wanted her to do is retire. And
believe me, when I walk out of this building for
the last time, I'm not going to be obliged to
have any say on how anything happens at newstor ZV. Ever, again,
(05:05):
I'll probably forget it even existed.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I am actually quite forgetful you talk sivin.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Anyway, So that were talking about the temperature and how
it's getting hard in hair? Was it the only thing
that happened with the natural parties? But they also decided
that they were going to fix maths.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
You have children yourself. You see that they're struggling. How
frustrating to feel powerless to be able to help them,
to see them following in your footsteps and be denied
opportunities that you were denied because the education system failed
first them and now you you can't help them. You
(05:53):
don't know, and you can see they're struggling and they
look to you for help and you can't give it,
and that is just heartbreaking. And you can't afford it.
Your cousin be married to an incredibly successful chap or
woman who have their own incredibly successful company, and all
(06:14):
three of their children go to a private tuition company
which costs them thousands of dollars a year, and that's okay.
They can sure up the gaps in their knowledge because
they can afford it, but you can't. You simply can't.
You haven't got the thousands of dollars needed to put
two kids through private tuition companies, and so your kids
continue to fall behind, while the kids who can afford
(06:37):
the tuition get the gaps in their knowledge short up.
And that is damn wrong, so wrong, goes against everything
I believe about this country and everything I believe about education.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And the old new tools their b hosts who fired
up yesterday when they are out.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Me.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
On the other hand, I have always been absolutely amazed
when either of my kids did well at anything at school,
because I certainly didn't send them to send them a
very good example. Turned out alright for me.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
Ended up in this job that I just desperately want
to retire.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
From the earliest possibility. Set right councils GC used to
Certainly it seems like none of them can do anything
right at the moment.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
Have you noticed that I'm simply asking, is Netan Yahoo?
Is Biden listening to the thoughts of balt to do
a lakes council? And if not, should they be talking
about things like this? You know, if councils were on
top of their core business, this wouldn't matter to me.
(07:54):
But you've got budget blowouts. This is just it, or
to do it, by the way, budget blowouts on a
sewage scheme. You've got in Buller thirty one percent rate increases.
In Hamilton, you've got nineteen percent rate increases. You've got
an average of fifteen percent rate increases across the country.
You've got infrastructure problems, you've got sewage running into the
ocean and total and they've just held an election the
(08:16):
first time they could vote, I think in five years
and they were in the thirties and turnout and you
wonder why. I mean, people obviously don't have a lot
of faith in their councils and what are they doing?
And it's not just garsa. There are other issues that
councils often jump on, like things to do with the UN.
And I mean, is that your purview. We've got a representative,
(08:38):
We've got a permanent representative on the Security Council, the
UN Security Council, a permanent representative who can make statements
on our behalf, on behalf of the government. Isn't that
where you do it? Are they focusing on local issues?
Shouldn't they only focus on local issues? After all, aren't
they local councils.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I still think there's some merit to my idea of
because you know, we're getting low voter turn out obviously
in local body elections, that those non votes should count
a vote for nobody as one less counselor, and eventually
there'll be a clear majority. Once here's a clear majority,
(09:19):
which there would be in most places, there'll be.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
No council news talk.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Has it been right?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
More controversial opinions? Interesting sports at the Olympics, your speed climbing,
your canoe cross, hyak cross, whatever it is that we
won the gold medal in overnight, just as well, that's
there if.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
You're a fan of the Olympics. The sports climbing is
on now. Boy, oh boy, I'll tell you what. They're
not having much luck with it. Sports climbing is outdoors,
which are surprised. I thought I thought the kids had
been a gymnasium at outdoors with a very geometric looking
design with brightly colored bits of pastic yellow and blue
and red that are on the thing. And boy, talk
(10:02):
about an overhang. Wow, there's the first the base of
the climbing wall. The second wall comes out like almost
horizontal with bits to blow that they've got to extraordinary
and they kind of have brushes. It looks like the
sort of things that people at the intersections washing your
(10:23):
windscreens would have and they rub chalk on some of
the obstacles with that. But wow, it really is. It's
really leany outy, and we're doing very well for anyone
to climb that at all worth watching. I say about
the Olympics, there is one group of people that like
the Olympics. That is children. Oh this is not climbing,
(10:44):
this is bouldering, So it's part of Is there more
than one? There's bouldering lead and speed. Well, the boulderings
tricky as a tree full of monkeys. Goodness, gracious me,
no one looks happy. This sky's fallen three times. He
(11:05):
hasn't really got off the ground bouldering. Who knew. There's
one group of people that love the Olympics. That's children. Man,
the questions I've had fired at by my children about
the Olympics. How many medals are produced five four hundred,
How many countries are there two hundred hundred and three,
(11:25):
and on and on.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
It goes.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Endless questions about the Olympics. But how many throwing events
are there three? How many jumping events are there?
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Well?
Speaker 6 (11:37):
I got stuck talking about jumping events because said, there's
a pole vault, there's the long jump, there's the high jump.
Then I made the mistake of telling them about the
triple jump. What a stupid event that is? I said,
you've got a hop, skip and then leap. I hate
to show them videos. I had no idea what it
was about. But wow, I'm at that lits. I'm at
(11:59):
that stage you watched the Olympics that I'd actually like
to give them kind of a reassessment now, And for me,
triple jump would go yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I mean, this is the discussion that has every Realmpics,
isn't it? And people talk about pure Olympic sports? So
you know, shooting for me is how that's super so pure.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Isn't it?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Shooting and torturing horses to music as well, making them
dance on demand. It's a great support, isn't it. Come on, guys,
it's all ridiculous. I am Glen Hart. Let us be
used to it, said, Bean, it's all ridiculous, so just
enjoy it. Can I complain about a sport that you get?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Golden Right News Talk zied Bean.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
For more from News Talk said b Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Monday. So off the back of
the National Party Conference or a GM or Shouldn't Dig
or whatever it is, they've got an action plan to
help us do maths more, what are councils for? What
(00:47):
are they doing? Why are they calling for an end
to the Israeli Palestinian, Lebanese, Iranian hiszbilla? Who the war?
And we've got some ideas for other Olympic sports that
(01:12):
aren't there that should be well before any of that.
It's back to a national's weekend of being supernational? Why
was John Key there? Exactly?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Section seven AA in the orong Atomitiki Bill is basically
a treaty principle which needs to be removed from the
law because otherwise we will continue to see little Maori
kids being removed from stable, loving homes just because their
foster parents are parking heart the wrong ethnicity. I find
that offensive and also really upsetting. For the children. The
Marine and Coastal Areas Act needs to be amended to
force judges to do what the law says, because you
(01:44):
can't have judges doing the opposite of the laws what
the law says, just because they prefer it that way.
I mean, there is a long list of stuff that
just has to be done, and you can't not do
this stuff because some people want to shout it down.
If you end up doing that, right, if you end
up letting them shout it down, all that you end
up doing is doing nothing. And then you tell the
shouters that you know they will win. If they want
(02:04):
to shut something down in the future, just shout out
some violent things will stop doing it now. I don't
blame John Key for taking this approach because this is
the approach that he took in government.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
For all of his success with the economy and the
finances there, and there were many successes there, he wasn't
very bold when it came to awkward stuff like race relations.
I mean race relations. I get the feeling he actually
tried to actively avoid it because icky things like that
cost political capital and he would much rather just be
in government. Luckily for him, he was the Prime Minister
at a time when he could afford to do that.
He came before Jasinda Arderne, not after Jinda Ardurn and
(02:36):
all the trouble that her government created. It's a different
time now. It calls for boldness. Sure, I would like
everyone to be careful in the language they use, but
I don't want them to cower from a job that
needs to be done.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Okay, wow, So no misunderstanding where heither lies on these issues.
That's look coming in loud and clear news talk. Zeth
Been Dickens, on the other hand, I think he's just
about as sick as I am of hearing people say
(03:07):
we need to bring the temperature down, which I think
Sir John Key, who being seated in America recently thought
I can say that too here.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
And he, I think, feels that the party is going
off brand in relations with Mary. His own governing relied
on a partnership with the Malori Party, which is a
pairing you could never see today. True, the Maori Party
of twenty twenty four is a lot more radical than
the Malordi Party of the day, but still john Keyes
(03:38):
government had positive relations with Mary. Under his watch, they
started the Tewananga or Artelrod. The university was created, Chris
Finnerson had a very good relationship with Mary. He was
well respected as the Treaty negotiations minister at National. In fact,
if you look back through history, has always had good
relationship with Mary, including Doug Graham, even Rob Muldoon. So
(04:03):
John Key's warning to the National Party of today is
that acts New Zealand First's war against the so called
Mardification of New Zealand is going just a bit too far.
And it's in his choice of words, take the temperature
down a bit. And I think that's pretty bang on.
In fact, I think if John Key says it is
(04:24):
pretty bang on. There's a few New Zealanders who vote National.
There's a few New Zealanders who call themselves right wing
Mish was sent to write, who are finding the hostility
towards all things Maori can be a bit jarring.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
What is it with all these ex prime ministers who
keep wanting to have a saying about things I don't understand.
All I've ever wanted her to do is retire. And
believe me, when I walk out of this building for
the last time, I'm not going to be obliged to
have any say on how anything happens at newstor ZV. Ever, again,
(05:05):
I'll probably forget it even existed.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I am actually quite forgetful you talk sivin.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Anyway, So that were talking about the temperature and how
it's getting hard in hair? Was it the only thing
that happened with the natural parties? But they also decided
that they were going to fix maths.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
You have children yourself. You see that they're struggling. How
frustrating to feel powerless to be able to help them,
to see them following in your footsteps and be denied
opportunities that you were denied because the education system failed
first them and now you you can't help them. You
(05:53):
don't know, and you can see they're struggling and they
look to you for help and you can't give it,
and that is just heartbreaking. And you can't afford it.
Your cousin be married to an incredibly successful chap or
woman who have their own incredibly successful company, and all
(06:14):
three of their children go to a private tuition company
which costs them thousands of dollars a year, and that's okay.
They can sure up the gaps in their knowledge because
they can afford it, but you can't. You simply can't.
You haven't got the thousands of dollars needed to put
two kids through private tuition companies, and so your kids
continue to fall behind, while the kids who can afford
(06:37):
the tuition get the gaps in their knowledge short up.
And that is damn wrong, so wrong, goes against everything
I believe about this country and everything I believe about education.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And the old new tools their b hosts who fired
up yesterday when they are out.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Me.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
On the other hand, I have always been absolutely amazed
when either of my kids did well at anything at school,
because I certainly didn't send them to send them a
very good example. Turned out alright for me.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
Ended up in this job that I just desperately want
to retire.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
From the earliest possibility. Set right councils GC used to
Certainly it seems like none of them can do anything
right at the moment.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
Have you noticed that I'm simply asking, is Netan Yahoo?
Is Biden listening to the thoughts of balt to do
a lakes council? And if not, should they be talking
about things like this? You know, if councils were on
top of their core business, this wouldn't matter to me.
(07:54):
But you've got budget blowouts. This is just it, or
to do it, by the way, budget blowouts on a
sewage scheme. You've got in Buller thirty one percent rate increases.
In Hamilton, you've got nineteen percent rate increases. You've got
an average of fifteen percent rate increases across the country.
You've got infrastructure problems, you've got sewage running into the
ocean and total and they've just held an election the
(08:16):
first time they could vote, I think in five years
and they were in the thirties and turnout and you
wonder why. I mean, people obviously don't have a lot
of faith in their councils and what are they doing?
And it's not just garsa. There are other issues that
councils often jump on, like things to do with the UN.
And I mean, is that your purview. We've got a representative,
(08:38):
We've got a permanent representative on the Security Council, the
UN Security Council, a permanent representative who can make statements
on our behalf, on behalf of the government. Isn't that
where you do it? Are they focusing on local issues?
Shouldn't they only focus on local issues? After all, aren't
they local councils.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I still think there's some merit to my idea of
because you know, we're getting low voter turn out obviously
in local body elections, that those non votes should count
a vote for nobody as one less counselor, and eventually
there'll be a clear majority. Once here's a clear majority,
(09:19):
which there would be in most places, there'll be.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
No council news talk.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Has it been right?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
More controversial opinions? Interesting sports at the Olympics, your speed climbing,
your canoe cross, hyak cross, whatever it is that we
won the gold medal in overnight, just as well, that's
there if.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
You're a fan of the Olympics. The sports climbing is
on now. Boy, oh boy, I'll tell you what. They're
not having much luck with it. Sports climbing is outdoors,
which are surprised. I thought I thought the kids had
been a gymnasium at outdoors with a very geometric looking
design with brightly colored bits of pastic yellow and blue
and red that are on the thing. And boy, talk
(10:02):
about an overhang. Wow, there's the first the base of
the climbing wall. The second wall comes out like almost
horizontal with bits to blow that they've got to extraordinary
and they kind of have brushes. It looks like the
sort of things that people at the intersections washing your
(10:23):
windscreens would have and they rub chalk on some of
the obstacles with that. But wow, it really is. It's
really leany outy, and we're doing very well for anyone
to climb that at all worth watching. I say about
the Olympics, there is one group of people that like
the Olympics. That is children. Oh this is not climbing,
(10:44):
this is bouldering, So it's part of Is there more
than one? There's bouldering lead and speed. Well, the boulderings
tricky as a tree full of monkeys. Goodness, gracious me,
no one looks happy. This sky's fallen three times. He
(11:05):
hasn't really got off the ground bouldering. Who knew. There's
one group of people that love the Olympics. That's children. Man,
the questions I've had fired at by my children about
the Olympics. How many medals are produced five four hundred,
How many countries are there two hundred hundred and three,
(11:25):
and on and on.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
It goes.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Endless questions about the Olympics. But how many throwing events
are there three? How many jumping events are there?
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Well?
Speaker 6 (11:37):
I got stuck talking about jumping events because said, there's
a pole vault, there's the long jump, there's the high jump.
Then I made the mistake of telling them about the
triple jump. What a stupid event that is? I said,
you've got a hop, skip and then leap. I hate
to show them videos. I had no idea what it
was about. But wow, I'm at that lits. I'm at
(11:59):
that stage you watched the Olympics that I'd actually like
to give them kind of a reassessment now, And for me,
triple jump would go yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I mean, this is the discussion that has every Realmpics,
isn't it? And people talk about pure Olympic sports? So
you know, shooting for me is how that's super so pure.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Isn't it?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Shooting and torturing horses to music as well, making them
dance on demand. It's a great support, isn't it. Come on, guys,
it's all ridiculous. I am Glen Hart. Let us be
used to it, said, Bean, it's all ridiculous, so just
enjoy it. Can I complain about a sport that you get?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Golden Right News Talk zied Bean.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
For more from News Talk said b Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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