August 25, 2024 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) Turning Around the Bureaucratic Behemoth/Councils Are No Better/Liam Out on a Limb/When Did We Start Caring About Assistant Coaches?/Having Five Things on Your Plate
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean the
weekly edition, first of yesterday's news. I'm Glen Hart and
we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, which is
when our weekends usually have him the councils versus the government.
This struggle continues. Will William Lawson actually get an F
(00:45):
one seat next year? Never thought it was going to happen.
A Liam McDonald, no idea what he's good doing next
after quitting his assistant coach of the All Blacks, and
Madeline Sami has got a lot on her plate before
any of that. So the fast checkings tending out to
be a little bit more difficult than people thought it
was going to be.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
A lot of people have thought that the special power
resting with those three ministers might make a real diference.
But now we've got an expert panel deciding. As with
the last Labor government's fast track process, have you just
checked out?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
No, this is about listening to the feedback from submitters
and also making the process a bit more clearer and
simpler and more elegant, one would say. So, the Labor
government's fast track process has actually worked pretty well. They've
accelerated a range of different projects, most of which have
been agreed to by the panel, and we've essentially taken
that architecture. But the key difference between their version and
(01:39):
ours is at it's a one stop shop. So the
fast Track under Labor was just about the RMA, only
ours is about all of the various permits and consents
that you need to get on a bill projects. So
it's a much more ambitious regime.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
How confident are you you're going to be able to
get the decisions made that you want because you are
giving up a level of power of influence or power
over it by the ministers no longer having the final say.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, it's about getting the balance right and finding the
sweet spots. So ministers or eight minister the Minister for
Infrastructure will still have the power to essentially accept projects
upon application and send them to the expert Panel and
then the panel will make the final decision.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Interesting, isn't it. You just still get the feeling in
recent with a few recent weeks that some of that
bureaucratic waffles just starting to slip into this kick ass
can do bars tracking government since it's not quite as
easy to turn this bureaucredit behemoth around?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
News talk ze Been.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I don't know why I sound so happy with that,
other than the fact that I've sort of been predicting
that something like this might have been Ath might mean
that anyway when it comes to bureaucratic behemas took about counsels.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
So it's likely the Prime Minister's direct talk this week
was to set the scene for the coming regional deal negotiations. So,
like the regulator idea, regional deals is another little number
we've plucked from Australia. The aim of these partnerships is
to coordinate capital investment to deliver the infrastructure each region
(03:21):
needs the economic growth and productivity. The framework has been
announced the first deals are expected to be finalized in
twenty twenty five. So these partnerships, they're really critical, especially
to a city like Auckland, which is estimated to be
home to forty percent of the country's population by twenty forty.
They will enable regions to come up with housing and
transport policies that will go beyond the local and central
(03:44):
election circles, and that's really important. Maybe we can commit
to getting some stuff done. So as much as a
slap on the risk from the Prime Minister and as
Local Government minister, this week may have been painful. If
it is a step on the way to the government
sorting out its future contribution to local government, the pain
(04:05):
will pass quickly.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
It's going to be interesting to see just how they
can go pushing the councils who are pushing back, and
how much local government reform. Yeah, it's an interesting as
the struggle has never really come to a head quite
like this, has it. Has anybody ever really been as
interested as local body politics.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
As they are?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Right now? Yes you are. You're interested, aren't you? Aren't you?
We've got to move on then, right, Some people are
certainly very interested in Formula one. And for those people
who are interested in it, they'd be interested to hear
Helmut Marco's comments during the week, basically saying that Liam
(04:51):
Lawson and Liam Lawson is guaranteed a seat next year.
We just turned quite nowhere.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
This doesn't seem very fair on Liam Lawson. He's been
given half promises and and I guess you know had
had conversations with I'm sure a lot of people about
what his future might hold. But he needs he needs
the proof and that if he were to take a
seat with Red Bull, whose seat would he take.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Well, once again, they're being very cagy on what they've got.
The only person that does not have a contract between
the RB team which is Visa whatever they call it,
and the Red Bull team, which is Rastapan's team, the
only person that doesn't actually have a contract for next
year is Daniel Ricardo. Now, he hasn't covered himself in
any glory this season at all. He in fact today
(05:38):
or last night, he qualified well below his teammate Yuki Sonoda,
and that's the first thing he has to do, keep
out qualifying him hasn't done that. Ricardo is not going anywhere.
The only place he can go is to stay in
the RB team. The other person, of course, that's in
the Red Bull setup is Perez. He is constantly being
(05:59):
threatened or you could say, with losing his seat because
he's not performing as well as he should. He does
have a contract for next year, but Red Bull and contracts,
you can just you know, they're less than toilet paper.
In fact, the other person interestingly that may leave is
(06:19):
for Staffin himself. The rumors still persist that for Staffin
is being courted for Mercedes. Now I can't see that
happening for next year, but those rumors are there, so
where can Liam go? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's all the sort of bs, this very sort of
political nepotistic wrangling behind the scenes that puts me off
the sport. It's very much like what happens with America's Cup.
There's a lot of stuff that happens that doesn't seem
to be entirely related to what actually happens with the
(06:58):
sport itself. And yeah, I guess some people that's why
some people are into it, because you know, they becomings
and goings is all part of it. But it's not
for me. And I really hope you all backs aren't
going this way as well. Was the parting of the
(07:20):
ways of Lena McDonald and raisor Robertson?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
It was that like that?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Or was it actually pretty clean cart.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
And look, it's just so easy to imagine an alternative,
don't you think, to just imagine it for a moment,
another world where they didn't recognize or didn't acknowledge that
things weren't working or tried to hide it. You know
that they didn't accept that things weren't clicking, and whatever
tension existed fested and grew into something much more damaging.
(07:50):
You just know that rumors would start. The odd you know,
the odd news report would intimate something wasn't quite right.
Greg Or Paul would get a bit of a sniff.
There would be cliques, there would be factions, players might
have split loyalties, and ultimately the whole thing would hurt
the team. Again, we don't know everything, but given the
frankness of the explanation, it's the best we have, right
(08:13):
And man, there's just so much to be said for
calling it early. They didn't battle on for a couple
of seasons. They didn't try and fake anything for the
rugby loving public. They called it. Leon McDonald clearly has
I mean, I think Leon McDonald clearly has a lot
of money, and as a coach he has had real success.
(08:34):
I'm sure he will get a great coaching job somewhere different. Obviously,
thirteen year old me would be gutted to see two
of his sporting heroes split. But twenty years or twenty
four years since they won that third title. Their collective
handling of this situation I think has been mature and
strangely refreshing.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I've found it very hard to care about this story
actually at all. But do we always care of who
the assistant coaches? And I think what has been revealing
is had just how many assistant coaches there are. I
think it just seems to be going up and up
and up the number of experts and analysts and specialists
(09:20):
are involved anyway, big business.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I guess news talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Meanwhile, Mandel and Sami has got all sorts of things
that she's doing her just herself. I mean, obviously she
does them with other people, but yeah, she just seems
to flip between projects to project.
Speaker 9 (09:38):
Double Packed is out. Now you're in the thick of
promotion for that. You're heading back to OZ to film
season two of Deadlock. We've had to move this interview
by day because you've been working here in New Zealand
as while picking up some more work. I did read
that you were the kind of person who likes to
have five projects on the go.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
We've seen that that is the case.
Speaker 10 (09:57):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's like in our industry.
I don't know, you start, when you start out, you're
so desperate for work, You're so grateful for any work
you get because it's you know, it's a tough industry
to be and there's a lot of competition, and so
I feel like it's kind of a mentality from back
when I was like eighteen and starting out in the industry,
(10:17):
I was like, must take work because you never know
when the next job will come. So yeah, I probably
am a bit of a workerholic. I also do, definitely
probably have undiagnosed ADHD. I also do just like working,
and I think when you get good opportunities, you got
to take them.
Speaker 9 (10:34):
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
I mean you'll say, notice something you don't want to do?
Speaker 10 (10:37):
Oh, definitely definitely. I mean that's something I've learned the
older I've got. In fact, I think like the pandemic
was really good for that, sort of like sitting back
and having a bit of time out to be like,
how do I want to lead my life? And why
do I want to feel so tired all the time
and not necessarily doing the thing I love, you know,
and sort of taught me a bit to narrow things down.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
So how did that change?
Speaker 9 (11:00):
Were you just more discerning about the projects side.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
I think so, yeah.
Speaker 10 (11:04):
I think I was just like, oh, look, I don't
just have to wear myself out and do everything I can.
I can pick the things that I love more. And yeah,
it's and for me, it's like, you know, a variety.
I love variety, and I love you know, I love
doing a bit of directing and acting and writing. Having
those it's also survival because like sometimes one of those
(11:24):
things is all right up and the other things are
going going good guns and you know.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I'm just saying, so, she's the kind of person who
likes to have five projects on the go. I'm the
kind of person who likes to have no projects on
the go. I'm constantly trying to get my inbox empty
and down to nothing and then I can just sit
on the couch and melt cheese on things. Takes you.
You got to get that in the ride or order
melt cheese on things, then take it with you to
(11:48):
the couch and then you can sit there and eat
it well watching something. That's that's that's the main project
I'm trying to get to. But unfortunately I obviously have
to prioritize things ahead of that, but that's my ultimate destination.
Have I revealed too much? I am gly in heart.
That has been though it Bean. We'll see back here
(12:09):
again tomorrow with more startling revelations.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
US Talk is Talking zid bean. For more from News
Talk zid B, listen live on air or online, and
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You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean the
weekly edition, first of yesterday's news. I'm Glen Hart and
we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, which is
when our weekends usually have him the councils versus the government.
This struggle continues. Will William Lawson actually get an F
(00:45):
one seat next year? Never thought it was going to happen.
A Liam McDonald, no idea what he's good doing next
after quitting his assistant coach of the All Blacks, and
Madeline Sami has got a lot on her plate before
any of that. So the fast checkings tending out to
be a little bit more difficult than people thought it
was going to be.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
A lot of people have thought that the special power
resting with those three ministers might make a real diference.
But now we've got an expert panel deciding. As with
the last Labor government's fast track process, have you just
checked out?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
No, this is about listening to the feedback from submitters
and also making the process a bit more clearer and
simpler and more elegant, one would say. So, the Labor
government's fast track process has actually worked pretty well. They've
accelerated a range of different projects, most of which have
been agreed to by the panel, and we've essentially taken
that architecture. But the key difference between their version and
(01:39):
ours is at it's a one stop shop. So the
fast Track under Labor was just about the RMA, only
ours is about all of the various permits and consents
that you need to get on a bill projects. So
it's a much more ambitious regime.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
How confident are you you're going to be able to
get the decisions made that you want because you are
giving up a level of power of influence or power
over it by the ministers no longer having the final say.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, it's about getting the balance right and finding the
sweet spots. So ministers or eight minister the Minister for
Infrastructure will still have the power to essentially accept projects
upon application and send them to the expert Panel and
then the panel will make the final decision.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Interesting, isn't it. You just still get the feeling in
recent with a few recent weeks that some of that
bureaucratic waffles just starting to slip into this kick ass
can do bars tracking government since it's not quite as
easy to turn this bureaucredit behemoth around?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
News talk ze Been.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I don't know why I sound so happy with that,
other than the fact that I've sort of been predicting
that something like this might have been Ath might mean
that anyway when it comes to bureaucratic behemas took about counsels.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
So it's likely the Prime Minister's direct talk this week
was to set the scene for the coming regional deal negotiations. So,
like the regulator idea, regional deals is another little number
we've plucked from Australia. The aim of these partnerships is
to coordinate capital investment to deliver the infrastructure each region
(03:21):
needs the economic growth and productivity. The framework has been
announced the first deals are expected to be finalized in
twenty twenty five. So these partnerships, they're really critical, especially
to a city like Auckland, which is estimated to be
home to forty percent of the country's population by twenty forty.
They will enable regions to come up with housing and
transport policies that will go beyond the local and central
(03:44):
election circles, and that's really important. Maybe we can commit
to getting some stuff done. So as much as a
slap on the risk from the Prime Minister and as
Local Government minister, this week may have been painful. If
it is a step on the way to the government
sorting out its future contribution to local government, the pain
(04:05):
will pass quickly.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
It's going to be interesting to see just how they
can go pushing the councils who are pushing back, and
how much local government reform. Yeah, it's an interesting as
the struggle has never really come to a head quite
like this, has it. Has anybody ever really been as
interested as local body politics.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
As they are?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Right now? Yes you are. You're interested, aren't you? Aren't you?
We've got to move on then, right, Some people are
certainly very interested in Formula one. And for those people
who are interested in it, they'd be interested to hear
Helmut Marco's comments during the week, basically saying that Liam
(04:51):
Lawson and Liam Lawson is guaranteed a seat next year.
We just turned quite nowhere.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
This doesn't seem very fair on Liam Lawson. He's been
given half promises and and I guess you know had
had conversations with I'm sure a lot of people about
what his future might hold. But he needs he needs
the proof and that if he were to take a
seat with Red Bull, whose seat would he take.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Well, once again, they're being very cagy on what they've got.
The only person that does not have a contract between
the RB team which is Visa whatever they call it,
and the Red Bull team, which is Rastapan's team, the
only person that doesn't actually have a contract for next
year is Daniel Ricardo. Now, he hasn't covered himself in
any glory this season at all. He in fact today
(05:38):
or last night, he qualified well below his teammate Yuki Sonoda,
and that's the first thing he has to do, keep
out qualifying him hasn't done that. Ricardo is not going anywhere.
The only place he can go is to stay in
the RB team. The other person, of course, that's in
the Red Bull setup is Perez. He is constantly being
(05:59):
threatened or you could say, with losing his seat because
he's not performing as well as he should. He does
have a contract for next year, but Red Bull and contracts,
you can just you know, they're less than toilet paper.
In fact, the other person interestingly that may leave is
(06:19):
for Staffin himself. The rumors still persist that for Staffin
is being courted for Mercedes. Now I can't see that
happening for next year, but those rumors are there, so
where can Liam go? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's all the sort of bs, this very sort of
political nepotistic wrangling behind the scenes that puts me off
the sport. It's very much like what happens with America's Cup.
There's a lot of stuff that happens that doesn't seem
to be entirely related to what actually happens with the
(06:58):
sport itself. And yeah, I guess some people that's why
some people are into it, because you know, they becomings
and goings is all part of it. But it's not
for me. And I really hope you all backs aren't
going this way as well. Was the parting of the
(07:20):
ways of Lena McDonald and raisor Robertson?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
It was that like that?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Or was it actually pretty clean cart.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
And look, it's just so easy to imagine an alternative,
don't you think, to just imagine it for a moment,
another world where they didn't recognize or didn't acknowledge that
things weren't working or tried to hide it. You know
that they didn't accept that things weren't clicking, and whatever
tension existed fested and grew into something much more damaging.
(07:50):
You just know that rumors would start. The odd you know,
the odd news report would intimate something wasn't quite right.
Greg Or Paul would get a bit of a sniff.
There would be cliques, there would be factions, players might
have split loyalties, and ultimately the whole thing would hurt
the team. Again, we don't know everything, but given the
frankness of the explanation, it's the best we have, right
(08:13):
And man, there's just so much to be said for
calling it early. They didn't battle on for a couple
of seasons. They didn't try and fake anything for the
rugby loving public. They called it. Leon McDonald clearly has
I mean, I think Leon McDonald clearly has a lot
of money, and as a coach he has had real success.
(08:34):
I'm sure he will get a great coaching job somewhere different. Obviously,
thirteen year old me would be gutted to see two
of his sporting heroes split. But twenty years or twenty
four years since they won that third title. Their collective
handling of this situation I think has been mature and
strangely refreshing.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I've found it very hard to care about this story
actually at all. But do we always care of who
the assistant coaches? And I think what has been revealing
is had just how many assistant coaches there are. I
think it just seems to be going up and up
and up the number of experts and analysts and specialists
(09:20):
are involved anyway, big business.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I guess news talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Meanwhile, Mandel and Sami has got all sorts of things
that she's doing her just herself. I mean, obviously she
does them with other people, but yeah, she just seems
to flip between projects to project.
Speaker 9 (09:38):
Double Packed is out. Now you're in the thick of
promotion for that. You're heading back to OZ to film
season two of Deadlock. We've had to move this interview
by day because you've been working here in New Zealand
as while picking up some more work. I did read
that you were the kind of person who likes to
have five projects on the go.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
We've seen that that is the case.
Speaker 10 (09:57):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's like in our industry.
I don't know, you start, when you start out, you're
so desperate for work, You're so grateful for any work
you get because it's you know, it's a tough industry
to be and there's a lot of competition, and so
I feel like it's kind of a mentality from back
when I was like eighteen and starting out in the industry,
(10:17):
I was like, must take work because you never know
when the next job will come. So yeah, I probably
am a bit of a workerholic. I also do, definitely
probably have undiagnosed ADHD. I also do just like working,
and I think when you get good opportunities, you got
to take them.
Speaker 9 (10:34):
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
I mean you'll say, notice something you don't want to do?
Speaker 10 (10:37):
Oh, definitely definitely. I mean that's something I've learned the
older I've got. In fact, I think like the pandemic
was really good for that, sort of like sitting back
and having a bit of time out to be like,
how do I want to lead my life? And why
do I want to feel so tired all the time
and not necessarily doing the thing I love, you know,
and sort of taught me a bit to narrow things down.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
So how did that change?
Speaker 9 (11:00):
Were you just more discerning about the projects side.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
I think so, yeah.
Speaker 10 (11:04):
I think I was just like, oh, look, I don't
just have to wear myself out and do everything I can.
I can pick the things that I love more. And yeah,
it's and for me, it's like, you know, a variety.
I love variety, and I love you know, I love
doing a bit of directing and acting and writing. Having
those it's also survival because like sometimes one of those
(11:24):
things is all right up and the other things are
going going good guns and you know.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I'm just saying, so, she's the kind of person who
likes to have five projects on the go. I'm the
kind of person who likes to have no projects on
the go. I'm constantly trying to get my inbox empty
and down to nothing and then I can just sit
on the couch and melt cheese on things. Takes you.
You got to get that in the ride or order
melt cheese on things, then take it with you to
(11:48):
the couch and then you can sit there and eat
it well watching something. That's that's that's the main project
I'm trying to get to. But unfortunately I obviously have
to prioritize things ahead of that, but that's my ultimate destination.
Have I revealed too much? I am gly in heart.
That has been though it Bean. We'll see back here
(12:09):
again tomorrow with more startling revelations.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
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