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FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Didn't We Vote for This?/Too Many Unis/Just Don't Do Reality TV/The Real Drama
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
You Talk said, Hello, my diffiful beginings, and welcome to
the Bean for Tuesday. First of yesterday's news. I am
Glen Hart, and we are looking back at Monday and
today a universe. We've got too many universities. We'll find
out what's happening there. Camel Cipolony on reality TV getting
(00:44):
paid for that while being paid to be whatever.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It is that she does, bead on and celebrating lydia Co.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
But before any of that, the fast tracking, slow down,
slow down on the fast tracking.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
That's just really hard to do. Fast tracking might be
why I haven't done it.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Before fast track, I was thinking like fast food, like
drive through, like quickly. We can get infrastructure done in
this country, something we haven't been able to do very
well for a very long time. Like you would drive
in to the McDonald's or whatever it is to get
your speedy infrastructure done. What would you like, sir, I'll
have a housing development, I'll have a bridge. Perhaps I'll
(01:26):
have a mine on the west coast. Yes, drive straight
to window three.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Pay.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
There's Uncle Shane, there's cousin you know, Seymour, what's Simeon?
Ready to take your card? And then oh lo and behold,
Chris Bishop gives you a free Sunday. He's on the
milkshake machine. Great, everybody's happy. Bam bam bam, and you're
straight through. But no, not anymore. Now they are going
(01:51):
to revise it and they're going to take away some
of those quick decision making powers. So the decisions will
now be made by you guessed at a panel of experts,
not ministers. There's a new process involves the environmental experts, EWE,
authority representatives, MALDI development until MALDI expt. It's extended time frames.
So this is not fast food anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
People.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
This is like a long lunch for infrastructure construction and
New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Why can we never just get on and build stuff?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Just you know, who cares about a bit of corruption?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Just build it.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's quite well delivered form Ryan as you can hear.
It's just sort of left me almost spectuous. Who cares
about a bit of corruption?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Just build it? Is he being facetious? Is he being serious?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Is he doing satire? Is he paraphrasing the government.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
It's intriguing. I'm going to have to change in it
and again tomorrow for verification.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
News talk has been let's.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
See what Kerry thinks about all this.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yes, that's right, Kerrie's back on deck and yeah she's
fast tracked, straight straight back into her usual hosting role.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
So there was a little bit of concern about three
ministers having that much power. What's actually changed, Well, ministers
will still get the say over which projects will be
put forward to be considered by the expert panel. Chris Bishop,
It's true will no longer have the final sign off.
(03:26):
But as Claire Trivet says in the New Zealand Herald,
if he doesn't like a project, it won't go anywhere.
He's the gatekeeper. So I guess if you are involved
in trying to make things happen, to get things done,
does this give you any thought, any concern, any pause
for thought whatsoever? You know, as clear Trivet says, if
(03:50):
a project doesn't look suitable, it's not going to go anywhere.
As Chris Bishop said, had the three ministers stayed solely
responsible for the decision making, you bet your bippy, there
would have been lawsuits for ying Yan and judicial reviews
(04:10):
and time wasting, and in the end more time and
more money would have been spent fighting the dissenters. And
do we trust ministers to have that level of power?
I'm not entirely sure yet sets a precedent.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Isn't that why we.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Vote for them?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Like seriously, by voting for them, aren't we saying you're
the ones we trust?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Or are we voting for people we don't trust? Why
would you vote for someone you didn't trust. I don't
know what's happening us talk sen right.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So Eddie Dickens Monday afternoons and he's been having a
look at what's happening with university budgets and things. Sounds
like a lot of them are under stress, and he's
wondering if perhaps there might just be too many of them.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
Our university sector is a big, big, big trouble, worse
than expected. Our eight universities lost sixty six million dollars
last year. A drop in capital spending could cause some
universities facilities to become substandard or even unusable. So this
all begs the question have we got too many universities? Honestly,
(05:22):
we've got eight of them. If they don't make the money.
What do they do? Will they come screwing to the
government and says, could you give us some more money? Please?
Now what is our government going to say, No, fact,
we need more.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's the number of universities, right, but they just need
more degrees and diplomas.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And things and economics.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
And then it seem to be a lot of people
who just can't balance the books lately.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
You school the city?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Is that why Carmel Sipolone got a little bit confused
about whether she should get paid for being an MP
and being on reality TV at the same time.
Speaker 8 (05:55):
You cannot winge about Carmel Sepaloni going off to do
Celebrity Treasure Island if you didn't winge about David Seymore
doing Dancing with the Stars, and that was fine, wasn't it.
I totally take it. The circumstances are different. I mean,
she's taken from what we can tell, we don't know
for sure, but it sounds like two weeks off the
job completely right. She's away from the office, not even
on the phone. Just buy gone. He took time too,
(06:18):
even though he was still working. That dance schedule is
pretty grueling and time consuming. Now I've had friends do
the show, and it takes a lot of time out
of your day and away from your day job. So
even if you're still popping your head in the office
every day, your mind is elsewhere for a lot of
the time, and so is your body. Frankly, and look,
here's the thing. I actually think we need to get
used to our politicians doing this kind of cringey stuff
(06:40):
on TV because it's pr for them. It's media attention
that is oxygen to politicians, and these shows reach an
audience that sometimes politicians can't reach it all. I mean,
I guarantee you there were a whole bunch of people
turning up or tuning in to Celebrity Treasure Island who've
never heard of Carmel before. So that's catnip to an MP,
and complaining about an MP wanted to go on TV
(07:00):
as like complaining about a kiddie eating cake. It's in
their nature they're going to want to do it. So
I think, actually we should expect more of this and
probably just get used to it and maybe not winge
about it every time they do this, but instead joined
together in a collective cringe session about what we're about
to see on TV.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, I'm actually completely with hither there. In fact, I
said the same thing yesterday about day would Seemore and
Ronnie Hyde, And you know, I wasn't sure whether they
got paid for being on that Chasing with the Stars
or not.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I still don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
But just don't do reality TV. Ever, if we could
just get everybody to stop doing it so we'll would
be surely would be a heavyer fro News talks it Bean,
Why do you need reality TV when you've got real
life opening, You've got real life drama like Lydia Co
sitting there waiting while the people who were two holes
behind her fall apart under the pressure she's put.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
On them, and then she wins a good stuff.
Speaker 9 (07:55):
Words fail there with old Co.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
I just can't believe it always speaks where it always
sys exactly the right things, doesn't mister trick?
Speaker 9 (08:03):
Does she always humble and gracious and defeat and excited
to one? Mind? You, I clicked on it right because
I'm team Co. I thought, let's have a look at this,
Let's watch the shot.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
What terrible weather to be playing golfing?
Speaker 9 (08:21):
What Scotland thinking? It just looked horrible. It looked like
the worst weather ever to play golf. So yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
How they get people tuning up for some of those events,
because it just looked rubbish, like it's coming in sideways.
It's not gonna be the Scottish promotion board much good.
But man oh Man on an extraordinary victory. I wish
i'd watched it live to trouble with golf, if you know,
(08:57):
and she got a win yard, I would have watched it.
But that's the thing with sport, isn't it never quite sure?
Speaker 9 (09:02):
She hadn't led the whole way. She hay led on.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
The last hole, but goodness me looked hyperthermic out there.
Speaker 9 (09:14):
True story.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, I mean I was lucky enough to see it live,
but I mean I wouldn't have got on that for
I'm not that much of a golf fan, but I
just having to be here at work and it was
on TV, and it was dramatic, and the conditions were well,
let's say, changeable sunny one minute and then horrendous falls.
Blizards putting on ear muffs to keep your ears wear.
(09:35):
Apparently you can't play golf without warm ears.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I didn't realize that a lot of them wearing ear muffs.
Out there. Yeah, that was good stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Maybe I am a sports still a sports fan after all.
When the sport gets good, I'll watch anything, you know.
I'd even watch the America's cap if it was good.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
But I just can't be botherable.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
As I've been saying over the last few days, it's
all the behind the scenes stuff. It's all like all
the carry out of the F one. I'm not interested
in that stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Just go right and around the track. That's what we
want to see.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I'm Glen Hart and I'll be round the track again
for you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Susan news Talk is Talking zid bean. For more from
News Talk zid B, listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk SIBB.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You Talk said, Hello, my diffiful beginings, and welcome to
the Bean for Tuesday. First of yesterday's news. I am
Glen Hart, and we are looking back at Monday and
today a universe. We've got too many universities. We'll find
out what's happening there. Camel Cipolony on reality TV getting
(00:44):
paid for that while being paid to be whatever.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It is that she does, bead on and celebrating lydia Co.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
But before any of that, the fast tracking, slow down,
slow down on the fast tracking.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
That's just really hard to do. Fast tracking might be
why I haven't done it.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Before fast track, I was thinking like fast food, like
drive through, like quickly. We can get infrastructure done in
this country, something we haven't been able to do very
well for a very long time. Like you would drive
in to the McDonald's or whatever it is to get
your speedy infrastructure done. What would you like, sir, I'll
have a housing development, I'll have a bridge. Perhaps I'll
(01:26):
have a mine on the west coast. Yes, drive straight
to window three.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Pay.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
There's Uncle Shane, there's cousin you know, Seymour, what's Simeon?
Ready to take your card? And then oh lo and behold,
Chris Bishop gives you a free Sunday. He's on the
milkshake machine. Great, everybody's happy. Bam bam bam, and you're
straight through. But no, not anymore. Now they are going
(01:51):
to revise it and they're going to take away some
of those quick decision making powers. So the decisions will
now be made by you guessed at a panel of experts,
not ministers. There's a new process involves the environmental experts, EWE,
authority representatives, MALDI development until MALDI expt. It's extended time frames.
So this is not fast food anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
People.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
This is like a long lunch for infrastructure construction and
New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Why can we never just get on and build stuff?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Just you know, who cares about a bit of corruption?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Just build it.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's quite well delivered form Ryan as you can hear.
It's just sort of left me almost spectuous. Who cares
about a bit of corruption?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Just build it? Is he being facetious? Is he being serious?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Is he doing satire? Is he paraphrasing the government.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
It's intriguing. I'm going to have to change in it
and again tomorrow for verification.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
News talk has been let's.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
See what Kerry thinks about all this.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yes, that's right, Kerrie's back on deck and yeah she's
fast tracked, straight straight back into her usual hosting role.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
So there was a little bit of concern about three
ministers having that much power. What's actually changed, Well, ministers
will still get the say over which projects will be
put forward to be considered by the expert panel. Chris Bishop,
It's true will no longer have the final sign off.
(03:26):
But as Claire Trivet says in the New Zealand Herald,
if he doesn't like a project, it won't go anywhere.
He's the gatekeeper. So I guess if you are involved
in trying to make things happen, to get things done,
does this give you any thought, any concern, any pause
for thought whatsoever? You know, as clear Trivet says, if
(03:50):
a project doesn't look suitable, it's not going to go anywhere.
As Chris Bishop said, had the three ministers stayed solely
responsible for the decision making, you bet your bippy, there
would have been lawsuits for ying Yan and judicial reviews
(04:10):
and time wasting, and in the end more time and
more money would have been spent fighting the dissenters. And
do we trust ministers to have that level of power?
I'm not entirely sure yet sets a precedent.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Isn't that why we.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Vote for them?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Like seriously, by voting for them, aren't we saying you're
the ones we trust?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Or are we voting for people we don't trust? Why
would you vote for someone you didn't trust. I don't
know what's happening us talk sen right.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So Eddie Dickens Monday afternoons and he's been having a
look at what's happening with university budgets and things. Sounds
like a lot of them are under stress, and he's
wondering if perhaps there might just be too many of them.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
Our university sector is a big, big, big trouble, worse
than expected. Our eight universities lost sixty six million dollars
last year. A drop in capital spending could cause some
universities facilities to become substandard or even unusable. So this
all begs the question have we got too many universities? Honestly,
(05:22):
we've got eight of them. If they don't make the money.
What do they do? Will they come screwing to the
government and says, could you give us some more money? Please?
Now what is our government going to say, No, fact,
we need more.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's the number of universities, right, but they just need
more degrees and diplomas.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And things and economics.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
And then it seem to be a lot of people
who just can't balance the books lately.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
You school the city?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Is that why Carmel Sipolone got a little bit confused
about whether she should get paid for being an MP
and being on reality TV at the same time.
Speaker 8 (05:55):
You cannot winge about Carmel Sepaloni going off to do
Celebrity Treasure Island if you didn't winge about David Seymore
doing Dancing with the Stars, and that was fine, wasn't it.
I totally take it. The circumstances are different. I mean,
she's taken from what we can tell, we don't know
for sure, but it sounds like two weeks off the
job completely right. She's away from the office, not even
on the phone. Just buy gone. He took time too,
(06:18):
even though he was still working. That dance schedule is
pretty grueling and time consuming. Now I've had friends do
the show, and it takes a lot of time out
of your day and away from your day job. So
even if you're still popping your head in the office
every day, your mind is elsewhere for a lot of
the time, and so is your body. Frankly, and look,
here's the thing. I actually think we need to get
used to our politicians doing this kind of cringey stuff
(06:40):
on TV because it's pr for them. It's media attention
that is oxygen to politicians, and these shows reach an
audience that sometimes politicians can't reach it all. I mean,
I guarantee you there were a whole bunch of people
turning up or tuning in to Celebrity Treasure Island who've
never heard of Carmel before. So that's catnip to an MP,
and complaining about an MP wanted to go on TV
(07:00):
as like complaining about a kiddie eating cake. It's in
their nature they're going to want to do it. So
I think, actually we should expect more of this and
probably just get used to it and maybe not winge
about it every time they do this, but instead joined
together in a collective cringe session about what we're about
to see on TV.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, I'm actually completely with hither there. In fact, I
said the same thing yesterday about day would Seemore and
Ronnie Hyde, And you know, I wasn't sure whether they
got paid for being on that Chasing with the Stars
or not.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I still don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
But just don't do reality TV. Ever, if we could
just get everybody to stop doing it so we'll would
be surely would be a heavyer fro News talks it Bean,
Why do you need reality TV when you've got real
life opening, You've got real life drama like Lydia Co
sitting there waiting while the people who were two holes
behind her fall apart under the pressure she's put.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
On them, and then she wins a good stuff.
Speaker 9 (07:55):
Words fail there with old Co.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
I just can't believe it always speaks where it always
sys exactly the right things, doesn't mister trick?
Speaker 9 (08:03):
Does she always humble and gracious and defeat and excited
to one? Mind? You, I clicked on it right because
I'm team Co. I thought, let's have a look at this,
Let's watch the shot.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
What terrible weather to be playing golfing?
Speaker 9 (08:21):
What Scotland thinking? It just looked horrible. It looked like
the worst weather ever to play golf. So yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
How they get people tuning up for some of those events,
because it just looked rubbish, like it's coming in sideways.
It's not gonna be the Scottish promotion board much good.
But man oh Man on an extraordinary victory. I wish
i'd watched it live to trouble with golf, if you know,
(08:57):
and she got a win yard, I would have watched it.
But that's the thing with sport, isn't it never quite sure?
Speaker 9 (09:02):
She hadn't led the whole way. She hay led on.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
The last hole, but goodness me looked hyperthermic out there.
Speaker 9 (09:14):
True story.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, I mean I was lucky enough to see it live,
but I mean I wouldn't have got on that for
I'm not that much of a golf fan, but I
just having to be here at work and it was
on TV, and it was dramatic, and the conditions were well,
let's say, changeable sunny one minute and then horrendous falls.
Blizards putting on ear muffs to keep your ears wear.
(09:35):
Apparently you can't play golf without warm ears.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I didn't realize that a lot of them wearing ear muffs.
Out there. Yeah, that was good stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Maybe I am a sports still a sports fan after all.
When the sport gets good, I'll watch anything, you know.
I'd even watch the America's cap if it was good.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
But I just can't be botherable.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
As I've been saying over the last few days, it's
all the behind the scenes stuff. It's all like all
the carry out of the F one. I'm not interested
in that stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Just go right and around the track. That's what we
want to see.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I'm Glen Hart and I'll be round the track again
for you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Susan news Talk is Talking zid bean. For more from
News Talk zid B, listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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