August 27, 2024 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) Nah, Me Either. It's Only a Planet/That About Wraps it Up for EVs/Cheap Cheese Is Tempting
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
First with yesterday's news, I.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Am Glen Hart and we are looking back at Tuesday.
We are going to lament the state of ev sales.
Is there a future for EV's really? I mean, they
were the cars of the future, it seems like five
minutes ago, and now nobody wants them cheese once with
the price of cheese, That's the question Marcus will be
(00:48):
asking at the end of the podcast before anything else,
energy security in this country. We need we need some
quick fixes.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
On this, don't we? And is digging up oil and gas?
Is that the answer?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
And if it is, what happens if labor ever gets
back in and you need long term investment to dig
up oil and gas? And who's going to do that
if they think if there's a change of government it's
all going to change back the other way again.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Oh, it's confusing, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
The climate is more important than two hundred and thirty
mil jobs in the Ruapehu district and three hundred jobs
at Methodics in Taranaki, and however many other jobs are
lost around the country at businesses that close down now
because they can't afford the power bills. Because we're running
out of gas and we're not trying to find anymore
because labor won't let us try. That's their argument, the
climate is more important than those jobs. Labour's argument on
(01:41):
why they need to maintain the ban, it's just absolutely
bollocks as well. I mean they go around saying that
there is no more gas out there. Basically, yes there is.
It is. There patently is gas out there. There are
two fields off the coast of the North Island that
have got gas. There's two to off Taranaki and there's
(02:01):
krdre were off Raglin. Both are just sitting there. We
know they've got gas. Nobody's tapping them at the moment,
so it is out there. But even really did believe
what it was saying, right, if it really believed that
there was no more gas out there, then why do
you need a ban. Just lift the band, let the
investors trick themselves and go and keep exploring for this
non existent gas. It's not going to do us any
harm because there's no gas to find apparently, But in
(02:23):
the meantime we're going to benefit from the fact that
these companies bring their equipment down and maintain the wells
we've already got. Now, I do not think that Labour's
in trouble on this just yet. I reckon they've got
a bit of time, which is why they're holding the
line and saying they're going to bring this band back.
And my reason, the reason I reckon they're not in
trouble at the moment is because most kiwis are not
(02:43):
affected yet. Most of us do not work at Method
X or any of these businesses being shut down right now.
But come April, our power balls are all going to
go up. We are in for a nasty shock, and
when we see the cost of this span on every
single one of us, Labour might have to come round
to dropping this policy.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Interesting, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I'm at the beginning of that piece of audio, I
actually think that Heather hitting the nail on the head
completely and she was meeting it facetiously and then went
on to make fun of Labor's put the starts on this.
But is the climate not more important than some jobs.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Difficult to do?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Your job.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
If you planet's dying. But let's not take a long term.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
View on this news talk ze Bean. I'll be interested
to see if Ryan Bridge has got the same point
of view.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
The government yesterday issued a challenge to labor to help
dig our way out of this crisis at four pm
major announcement. What has been the response. Not one tweet,
not one Facebook post, not one press release from them.
They were unavailable to our producers for an interview at
five forty five am this morning. Don't know why. No
statement even we asked them for a statement if they
(04:05):
wouldn't appear on the program. No statement either, folks. This
is spray and walk away politics. It's a classic case.
And it looks a little bit now that they're not
talking like it's cowering in a crisis too. And they
were warned. MB told them a ban would cost one
point two to two twenty three billion dollars in lost royalties.
(04:26):
They told them that Method X would up and leave
if this went ahead. She disagreed, she sprayed, and then
she walked away. Hipkins also not available for our interview
this morning. He has tweeted I'll have more on that later,
but I'm sorry if you've got the energy and resources
(04:47):
to boot the sector up, Shiite Creek at least have
the decency to front up.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So it seems like here at CB we're pretty much unanimous.
Jobs economy overseas investment money, get it in here, keep
the economy ticking along at all costs until the world dies.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I let's worry about that later, No worries.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Qu's talk side My.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Question to you as you personally, would you if somebody
came to you and said, are you prepared to give
up your job in order to save the planet, maybe
you're not.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Chris Hopkins says, there is already consented renewable electricity that
could be built right now, but these big gent tailors
are choosing not to build them because it's in their
commercial interest to keep energy scarce and maximize profits, which
would be economic sabotage if that is true, and you'd
(05:50):
have to take anything. I suppose that politicians say is
with a grain of salt. But if they are already consented,
why aren't they being built now? I have more questions
than I have answers for you, So I am looking
to you for the answers. Those of you who know
more than I, but we know we have an energy
security crisis. Chris Hopkins says that there are consents in place.
(06:13):
We could get cracking if the gent tailors wanted to.
They have made squillions, so it's not like they're wondering
where their next buck is coming from. They've made millions
from us. We're the ones paying the price every single
time for decisions made by these big companies and by governments.
So a get cracking with the renewables government, do your
(06:33):
work by fast tracking these already consented projects they need
to start. The gent tailors need to start on those
any that are still waiting for consents. We fast track them.
Oil and gas exploration, sure, reverse the ban, But is
anybody interested in coming here?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It was going so well.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Here.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
He wanted to know who's actually holding the big gentailors
to account as they make record profits while we don't
still have enough energy and perhaps they could be providing
it and renewable and sustainable ways.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
So you see that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, that takes a little bit of investment, you see,
and that takes money off the bottom line.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So you know, we don't like that.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And if you win, blew it all at the end
by saying drill, baby, drill. Oh well, right, so we've
been talking about energy and you know, sustainability and are
we actually going to have infinite power forever or not?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
We're going to need it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
If people go evs right across the border, it looks
like they're not going to And.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
I would suspect that I'm probably where most people sit
when it comes to an EV, and that is is
electric vehicles. The way of the future is a hybrid.
The future is hydrogen. The future rice vehicles, done and dusted.
So I don't want to go and invest a lot
of money in an EV because I know I will
suffer from range anxiety. You know. The second hand market
(08:02):
for EV's is pretty average, I think, and that's what
we want to discuss buying a secondhand EV. Fear Go
did a store and one woman had bought an EV.
She bought it, I think for about thirteen thousand dollars.
It was a leaf fourteen nine hundred and she paid
for this car and the car had a battery health
and a battery of eighty state of health yes, state
(08:24):
of reading, battery health of eighty five percent. In the
range was apparently one hundred and thirty k's. Anyway, the
thing started playing up. It was a bit of a nightmare. Actually,
on her first day the car dealership seemed pretty good.
They said that refunder her money. She didn't want that
because she couldn't afford to upgrade, so she stuck with it.
But then it ended up going to court and the
tribunal found that when they had stated the battery health
(08:46):
and the battery could do one hundred and thirty k's,
that was under optimal driving conditions or desirable conditions, and
when she went on the open road that was not
considered to be desirable.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And it was without using air con or even radio,
which would wear the battery down. Yeah, I mean it
must be pointed out that that happens with ice cars
as well, that they lest off to be a fuel
to me and you will never ever get it to
do that in real life.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
But yeah, no, think I do think of an EV
like a bone.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
The battery does wear out over time, and then you're
going to have to do something about it, and mostly
that means replacing it. So it's just not it doesn't
make economic sense to actually replaced the battery. Oh dear.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
News talk z.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Bean and a further terrible news. Jesus is too expensive?
God damn it? What am I going to do? Move
to Australia.
Speaker 8 (09:44):
Bad news is that cheese is now twenty bucks a block,
and which is in itself a worry, but apparently it's
half that price in Australia. Could someone tell me? Why?
(10:14):
Could someone tell me why cheese would be half the
price in Australia? And I don't know the answer. Is
it because of Fonterra or is it because of the
(10:34):
supermarket jewopoly? Or is there some other factor?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
And how do we change that?
Speaker 8 (10:43):
How could Australia do cheese for half the price? And
I don't know if it's New Zealand cheese or Australian cheese.
I don't know if the cheese you're buying in Australia
is New Zealand cheese or Australia cheese. I just said that,
haven't I.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
Be?
Speaker 8 (10:59):
Could someone explain to me why that is? I don't
often ask difficult questions, but this one's got.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Me beat.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
Unbelievable. So yeah, why would it be half the price
in Australia? At Walworth in Australia, It's home brand Tasty
cheese is nine point fifty akilo.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Even in the.
Speaker 8 (11:31):
UK it's much cheaper. So yeah, what's with the price
of cheese?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
I mean often they said we're going to pay more
because it's worth more on the export market. But if
it's not worth we're on the export market because it's
half the price in Australia. Said, I wouldn't want to
be a farmer selling cheese twice the price in Australia.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I see, I'm torn now.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I've always said I would never move to Australia because
it's full of Australians. But if the cheese is actually
cheaper there, oh, pretty tend thing. I'm gonna have to
have a think about that. I'll go off and have
a think about that and we'll meet back here again
tomorrow for another News Talk said thing.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
See then used Talking Talking zid bean for more from
News Talk sed B. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
First with yesterday's news, I.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Am Glen Hart and we are looking back at Tuesday.
We are going to lament the state of ev sales.
Is there a future for EV's really? I mean, they
were the cars of the future, it seems like five
minutes ago, and now nobody wants them cheese once with
the price of cheese, That's the question Marcus will be
(00:48):
asking at the end of the podcast before anything else,
energy security in this country. We need we need some
quick fixes.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
On this, don't we? And is digging up oil and gas?
Is that the answer?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
And if it is, what happens if labor ever gets
back in and you need long term investment to dig
up oil and gas? And who's going to do that
if they think if there's a change of government it's
all going to change back the other way again.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Oh, it's confusing, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
The climate is more important than two hundred and thirty
mil jobs in the Ruapehu district and three hundred jobs
at Methodics in Taranaki, and however many other jobs are
lost around the country at businesses that close down now
because they can't afford the power bills. Because we're running
out of gas and we're not trying to find anymore
because labor won't let us try. That's their argument, the
climate is more important than those jobs. Labour's argument on
(01:41):
why they need to maintain the ban, it's just absolutely
bollocks as well. I mean they go around saying that
there is no more gas out there. Basically, yes there is.
It is. There patently is gas out there. There are
two fields off the coast of the North Island that
have got gas. There's two to off Taranaki and there's
(02:01):
krdre were off Raglin. Both are just sitting there. We
know they've got gas. Nobody's tapping them at the moment,
so it is out there. But even really did believe
what it was saying, right, if it really believed that
there was no more gas out there, then why do
you need a ban. Just lift the band, let the
investors trick themselves and go and keep exploring for this
non existent gas. It's not going to do us any
harm because there's no gas to find apparently, But in
(02:23):
the meantime we're going to benefit from the fact that
these companies bring their equipment down and maintain the wells
we've already got. Now, I do not think that Labour's
in trouble on this just yet. I reckon they've got
a bit of time, which is why they're holding the
line and saying they're going to bring this band back.
And my reason, the reason I reckon they're not in
trouble at the moment is because most kiwis are not
(02:43):
affected yet. Most of us do not work at Method
X or any of these businesses being shut down right now.
But come April, our power balls are all going to
go up. We are in for a nasty shock, and
when we see the cost of this span on every
single one of us, Labour might have to come round
to dropping this policy.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Interesting, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I'm at the beginning of that piece of audio, I
actually think that Heather hitting the nail on the head
completely and she was meeting it facetiously and then went
on to make fun of Labor's put the starts on this.
But is the climate not more important than some jobs.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Difficult to do?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Your job.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
If you planet's dying. But let's not take a long term.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
View on this news talk ze Bean. I'll be interested
to see if Ryan Bridge has got the same point
of view.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
The government yesterday issued a challenge to labor to help
dig our way out of this crisis at four pm
major announcement. What has been the response. Not one tweet,
not one Facebook post, not one press release from them.
They were unavailable to our producers for an interview at
five forty five am this morning. Don't know why. No
statement even we asked them for a statement if they
(04:05):
wouldn't appear on the program. No statement either, folks. This
is spray and walk away politics. It's a classic case.
And it looks a little bit now that they're not
talking like it's cowering in a crisis too. And they
were warned. MB told them a ban would cost one
point two to two twenty three billion dollars in lost royalties.
(04:26):
They told them that Method X would up and leave
if this went ahead. She disagreed, she sprayed, and then
she walked away. Hipkins also not available for our interview
this morning. He has tweeted I'll have more on that later,
but I'm sorry if you've got the energy and resources
(04:47):
to boot the sector up, Shiite Creek at least have
the decency to front up.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So it seems like here at CB we're pretty much unanimous.
Jobs economy overseas investment money, get it in here, keep
the economy ticking along at all costs until the world dies.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I let's worry about that later, No worries.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Qu's talk side My.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Question to you as you personally, would you if somebody
came to you and said, are you prepared to give
up your job in order to save the planet, maybe
you're not.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Chris Hopkins says, there is already consented renewable electricity that
could be built right now, but these big gent tailors
are choosing not to build them because it's in their
commercial interest to keep energy scarce and maximize profits, which
would be economic sabotage if that is true, and you'd
(05:50):
have to take anything. I suppose that politicians say is
with a grain of salt. But if they are already consented,
why aren't they being built now? I have more questions
than I have answers for you, So I am looking
to you for the answers. Those of you who know
more than I, but we know we have an energy
security crisis. Chris Hopkins says that there are consents in place.
(06:13):
We could get cracking if the gent tailors wanted to.
They have made squillions, so it's not like they're wondering
where their next buck is coming from. They've made millions
from us. We're the ones paying the price every single
time for decisions made by these big companies and by governments.
So a get cracking with the renewables government, do your
(06:33):
work by fast tracking these already consented projects they need
to start. The gent tailors need to start on those
any that are still waiting for consents. We fast track them.
Oil and gas exploration, sure, reverse the ban, But is
anybody interested in coming here?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It was going so well.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Here.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
He wanted to know who's actually holding the big gentailors
to account as they make record profits while we don't
still have enough energy and perhaps they could be providing
it and renewable and sustainable ways.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
So you see that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, that takes a little bit of investment, you see,
and that takes money off the bottom line.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So you know, we don't like that.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And if you win, blew it all at the end
by saying drill, baby, drill. Oh well, right, so we've
been talking about energy and you know, sustainability and are
we actually going to have infinite power forever or not?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
We're going to need it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
If people go evs right across the border, it looks
like they're not going to And.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
I would suspect that I'm probably where most people sit
when it comes to an EV, and that is is
electric vehicles. The way of the future is a hybrid.
The future is hydrogen. The future rice vehicles, done and dusted.
So I don't want to go and invest a lot
of money in an EV because I know I will
suffer from range anxiety. You know. The second hand market
(08:02):
for EV's is pretty average, I think, and that's what
we want to discuss buying a secondhand EV. Fear Go
did a store and one woman had bought an EV.
She bought it, I think for about thirteen thousand dollars.
It was a leaf fourteen nine hundred and she paid
for this car and the car had a battery health
and a battery of eighty state of health yes, state
(08:24):
of reading, battery health of eighty five percent. In the
range was apparently one hundred and thirty k's. Anyway, the
thing started playing up. It was a bit of a nightmare. Actually,
on her first day the car dealership seemed pretty good.
They said that refunder her money. She didn't want that
because she couldn't afford to upgrade, so she stuck with it.
But then it ended up going to court and the
tribunal found that when they had stated the battery health
(08:46):
and the battery could do one hundred and thirty k's,
that was under optimal driving conditions or desirable conditions, and
when she went on the open road that was not
considered to be desirable.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And it was without using air con or even radio,
which would wear the battery down. Yeah, I mean it
must be pointed out that that happens with ice cars
as well, that they lest off to be a fuel
to me and you will never ever get it to
do that in real life.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
But yeah, no, think I do think of an EV
like a bone.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
The battery does wear out over time, and then you're
going to have to do something about it, and mostly
that means replacing it. So it's just not it doesn't
make economic sense to actually replaced the battery. Oh dear.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
News talk z.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Bean and a further terrible news. Jesus is too expensive?
God damn it? What am I going to do? Move
to Australia.
Speaker 8 (09:44):
Bad news is that cheese is now twenty bucks a block,
and which is in itself a worry, but apparently it's
half that price in Australia. Could someone tell me? Why?
(10:14):
Could someone tell me why cheese would be half the
price in Australia? And I don't know the answer. Is
it because of Fonterra or is it because of the
(10:34):
supermarket jewopoly? Or is there some other factor?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
And how do we change that?
Speaker 8 (10:43):
How could Australia do cheese for half the price? And
I don't know if it's New Zealand cheese or Australian cheese.
I don't know if the cheese you're buying in Australia
is New Zealand cheese or Australia cheese. I just said that,
haven't I.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
Be?
Speaker 8 (10:59):
Could someone explain to me why that is? I don't
often ask difficult questions, but this one's got.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Me beat.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
Unbelievable. So yeah, why would it be half the price
in Australia? At Walworth in Australia, It's home brand Tasty
cheese is nine point fifty akilo.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Even in the.
Speaker 8 (11:31):
UK it's much cheaper. So yeah, what's with the price
of cheese?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
I mean often they said we're going to pay more
because it's worth more on the export market. But if
it's not worth we're on the export market because it's
half the price in Australia. Said, I wouldn't want to
be a farmer selling cheese twice the price in Australia.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I see, I'm torn now.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I've always said I would never move to Australia because
it's full of Australians. But if the cheese is actually
cheaper there, oh, pretty tend thing. I'm gonna have to
have a think about that. I'll go off and have
a think about that and we'll meet back here again
tomorrow for another News Talk said thing.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
See then used Talking Talking zid bean for more from
News Talk sed B. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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