August 28, 2024 • 11 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Used Talk SEDB Talk said.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday and we're going to talk
about kids tidying their rooms for some reason. And we're
also going to talk about the reading robber Marcus has found.
(00:44):
It will be something to look forward to at the
end of the podcast because we've got the downfall of
society at the beginning of the podcast. People who feel
the need to film fatal car accidents and then post
them online.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Close ups of people who are injured lying on the
road not a nice thing to see or to experience.
But so long as you're not driving in film, isn't
it actually potentially useful evidence? Couldn't it help with an
investigation if police are able to review some of this
footage of a crash or the immediate aftermath of a crash.
(01:23):
Was that safety barrier strong enough? By the way, how
often does the truck's tire blowout? I mean that sounds
like a horrible thing to happen and frightening, but it
obviously happens, and then what You've got no control and
it's all over over, way back to the filming. It
is the new word of mouth. People don't just tell
each other what happened anymore. They need to show me.
(01:45):
Have you got the video? Have you got the video?
I mean, this is just the way I think that
society is going. I'm not saying that I on board
with it at all, But it's the way it's going,
isn't it. And there's very little chance we will turn
that ship around now, and trying to do so maybe
a little futile society. We are increasingly desensitized to stuff
(02:07):
and in sensitive to the feelings of those around us.
That's just that's just who we are now, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, I guess. I mean, because people aren't really people anymore,
are they? They just sort of their followers, their thumbs uppers,
their haters, their stats, their likes. That's what they are.
Is that what they are?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
News talk been Is.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
That what they are?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Kerrie, tell me, tell me that's not what they are.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
I know, there are many, many, many problems with mainstream
media today. Many I totally accept that, and mainstream media
are paying for the mistakes they're making with declining audiences
and declining revenues. But no journalist I know would ever
(03:00):
have filmed that crash scene ever, and our online editors
that we have here would never have put that foota johnline,
even if they'd been instructed to, which I can't imagine
in a million years. I know for a fact that
the young people I work with would have said, no,
there's no way we're putting that up on. Even if
a mistake had made and it had been posted and
(03:22):
people had quite rightly complained, we would have been censored
and punished as a media organization. There are no such
boundaries rules censure for the social media platforms. How have
(03:42):
people become so desensitized, so lacking an empathy that they
can think that this is okay? Does it begin with
the stupid pranky slapping the wall with your hand and
then comforting it a baby so it thinks it's been hurt?
I mean, how did? How do people think that's amusing?
(04:05):
Do we get desensitized because we hear of so many
horrific stories of children and babies and other humans being
so violently abused in this country that we think somehow
it's just par for the course. I'll just film it.
(04:27):
I cannot understand it. I would love any insight you
may have. I mean, for the recond I don't watch
any disasters overseas. If I see that there's a disaster,
I don't look. When they say warning distress and content,
I don't go in there. And I'm sorry, I'm going
to judge. If you find watching people dying entertaining, there's
(04:49):
something really wrong with you.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
I mean it.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
It's the biggest cliche in the world, isn't it. You know,
you can't look away from a car crash, but.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
You can.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Just do it.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Nothing. There's nothing making you social media rubbernecking.
Speaker 8 (05:10):
Isn't it.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
At the end of the day, us talk said.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I'm assuming, and I hope that's how he ever seasons
as well.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
It's kind out.
Speaker 9 (05:18):
Not everyone is like that, obviously, thankfully. I mean, some
people the first thing that they did when they saw
that crash was to stop the car, jump out and
try to help the people who were really hurt. They
are good people, they have good values. But there are
clearly enough people who don't have those values and instead
will choose to film what they see instead of helping
what they see. And it's always been like that. This
is not a modern phenomenon. There have always been good
(05:39):
people in this world, and there have always been bad
people in this world, or people who are just bits
of duds. And while I respect what Tony Wakelan was
saying yesterday, he can say it until he's blue in
the face. There will always be crappy people in the
world who do crappy things. And that's just basically what
we saw. We can't stop them putting the stuff online, right,
it's not illegal, and if it's not illegal, they're gonna
do it. And we can try as hard as we like,
(06:01):
but it's not gonna work. I mean, ja cindaar Durn's
christ Church calls a complete failure. That was the whole
point of that thing was to stop people putting stuff
on the Internet that we don't like. Hasn't work. People
still put the stuff on the Internet. And if you
even if you could police the Internet, they just go
to the dark Web. They'll find ways around it. The
only thing that we can do, really, and I've said
this before, but I will say it as many times
as I need to until we all understand it. The
(06:23):
only thing that we can do is choose what we
look at online. We have got to become our own senses.
We cannot have a chief censor anymore. They cannot stop
what's on the internet. We've got to censor it for ourselves.
We've got to police what we consume on the internet,
and we more importantly have to teach our kids to
police what they consume on the internet for their mental
health as well, and to guard what they see. The algorithm, well,
(06:46):
sometimes get around it, but the algorithm will be guided
by what you show an interest in. You click on
this kind of stuff, you'll get more of it fed
to you. So don't click on it. So, yes, what
happened yesterday was disgusting, or what happened earlier this week
was discussing was called out yesterday was disgusting, But it
is not going to stop. The only thing you can
do is choose what you look at.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, look away, guys, look away. Don't click. Don't click, Uh,
don't click, just don't click. It's like then you just
say no, isn't it? Don't click right now? So I
(07:23):
think part of the problem is kids had they raised
part of one problem. All problems and there are certain people.
Have you believed that at all stems from not keeping
their bedrooms tidy?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I think that's going a little bit too.
Speaker 8 (07:40):
What is the best technique to get your teenagers to
tidy their room? Because yet we've all been there, and
I reckon boys are worse than girls. Although I had
a debate with a colleague about that, and she has
daughters and she said her daughter's were fealthyre.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Was our kids?
Speaker 8 (07:58):
Oh? Actually a couple of them were pretty filky.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Yeah, well, my two youngest women. One was wonderful, she
was great, She kept everything neat and tidy. The other
you knew where you'd been through the house because of
her clothes everywhere and going, what the how does that happen?
Speaker 8 (08:13):
Same way, same investment in them.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, what is the the age where you're not allowed
to leave them out in the snow anymore? What do
you mean you can't ever do that?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
What are you talking about? News talks?
Speaker 6 (08:33):
That bean?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
It was satire. It was right there, that's gels you
were worrying. We're going to finish up here with the
curious case of the Reading Robber.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
A thief in Rome robbed a house and found a
book called about Homer's Iliad from the point of view
of the god, so engrossed that he just stayed there
reading the book and ended up getting caught. Yeah, for interesting,
(09:08):
isn't it. That's the story. There's probably more to it.
Once inside, he became stratted by a book on a
bedside tape and halted the burglary so he could read.
The seventy one year old homeowner woke up in front
of the man who was sitting down on bed engrossed
in the pages, tried to escape, arrested shortly afterwards. The
(09:29):
book Gillie Day as Laddie Penitifol examined home as Alid
from the point of view of the gods. The author
it's still a book with an author around, told the newspaper,
I'd like to collect connect with the alleged thief, so
give him a copy of the book. Nice story. Don't
even want to talk to me about the book that's
(09:50):
got your most engrossed. Well, I imagine most bank robbers
wouldn't start reading once they went on a job, would they.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
We never create a lot of these stories about people
robbing houses and stuff like that. You don't really know
what state of mind there and do you it is
sometimes one of their role in drugon They don't really
know where they are anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I think probably we've been underestimating criminals maybe, and perhaps
there's spend less money on security cameras and more money
on a decent library. Definitely you want some real doorstop
(10:32):
books in there, get the Dune books in there that
they're pretty heavyweight. I certainly recommend the three Body Problem
books translated from the original Chinese. I think, yeah, this
(10:57):
sounds like a great way to come back crime this
with literature into it. I am glen hat that has
been news talks of. We'll be met with more great
ideas like that and hopefully, you know, we'll find that
a society hasn't met its end just quite yet.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Tomorrow, News Talk is Talking zid bean
Speaker 1 (11:25):
For more from US Talk sid B, listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk SEDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Used Talk SEDB Talk said.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday and we're going to talk
about kids tidying their rooms for some reason. And we're
also going to talk about the reading robber Marcus has found.
(00:44):
It will be something to look forward to at the
end of the podcast because we've got the downfall of
society at the beginning of the podcast. People who feel
the need to film fatal car accidents and then post
them online.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Close ups of people who are injured lying on the
road not a nice thing to see or to experience.
But so long as you're not driving in film, isn't
it actually potentially useful evidence? Couldn't it help with an
investigation if police are able to review some of this
footage of a crash or the immediate aftermath of a crash.
(01:23):
Was that safety barrier strong enough? By the way, how
often does the truck's tire blowout? I mean that sounds
like a horrible thing to happen and frightening, but it
obviously happens, and then what You've got no control and
it's all over over, way back to the filming. It
is the new word of mouth. People don't just tell
each other what happened anymore. They need to show me.
(01:45):
Have you got the video? Have you got the video?
I mean, this is just the way I think that
society is going. I'm not saying that I on board
with it at all, But it's the way it's going,
isn't it. And there's very little chance we will turn
that ship around now, and trying to do so maybe
a little futile society. We are increasingly desensitized to stuff
(02:07):
and in sensitive to the feelings of those around us.
That's just that's just who we are now, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, I guess. I mean, because people aren't really people anymore,
are they? They just sort of their followers, their thumbs uppers,
their haters, their stats, their likes. That's what they are.
Is that what they are?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
News talk been Is.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
That what they are?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Kerrie, tell me, tell me that's not what they are.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
I know, there are many, many, many problems with mainstream
media today. Many I totally accept that, and mainstream media
are paying for the mistakes they're making with declining audiences
and declining revenues. But no journalist I know would ever
(03:00):
have filmed that crash scene ever, and our online editors
that we have here would never have put that foota johnline,
even if they'd been instructed to, which I can't imagine
in a million years. I know for a fact that
the young people I work with would have said, no,
there's no way we're putting that up on. Even if
a mistake had made and it had been posted and
(03:22):
people had quite rightly complained, we would have been censored
and punished as a media organization. There are no such
boundaries rules censure for the social media platforms. How have
(03:42):
people become so desensitized, so lacking an empathy that they
can think that this is okay? Does it begin with
the stupid pranky slapping the wall with your hand and
then comforting it a baby so it thinks it's been hurt?
I mean, how did? How do people think that's amusing?
(04:05):
Do we get desensitized because we hear of so many
horrific stories of children and babies and other humans being
so violently abused in this country that we think somehow
it's just par for the course. I'll just film it.
(04:27):
I cannot understand it. I would love any insight you
may have. I mean, for the recond I don't watch
any disasters overseas. If I see that there's a disaster,
I don't look. When they say warning distress and content,
I don't go in there. And I'm sorry, I'm going
to judge. If you find watching people dying entertaining, there's
(04:49):
something really wrong with you.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
I mean it.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
It's the biggest cliche in the world, isn't it. You know,
you can't look away from a car crash, but.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
You can.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Just do it.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Nothing. There's nothing making you social media rubbernecking.
Speaker 8 (05:10):
Isn't it.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
At the end of the day, us talk said.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I'm assuming, and I hope that's how he ever seasons
as well.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
It's kind out.
Speaker 9 (05:18):
Not everyone is like that, obviously, thankfully. I mean, some
people the first thing that they did when they saw
that crash was to stop the car, jump out and
try to help the people who were really hurt. They
are good people, they have good values. But there are
clearly enough people who don't have those values and instead
will choose to film what they see instead of helping
what they see. And it's always been like that. This
is not a modern phenomenon. There have always been good
(05:39):
people in this world, and there have always been bad
people in this world, or people who are just bits
of duds. And while I respect what Tony Wakelan was
saying yesterday, he can say it until he's blue in
the face. There will always be crappy people in the
world who do crappy things. And that's just basically what
we saw. We can't stop them putting the stuff online, right,
it's not illegal, and if it's not illegal, they're gonna
do it. And we can try as hard as we like,
(06:01):
but it's not gonna work. I mean, ja cindaar Durn's
christ Church calls a complete failure. That was the whole
point of that thing was to stop people putting stuff
on the Internet that we don't like. Hasn't work. People
still put the stuff on the Internet. And if you
even if you could police the Internet, they just go
to the dark Web. They'll find ways around it. The
only thing that we can do, really, and I've said
this before, but I will say it as many times
as I need to until we all understand it. The
(06:23):
only thing that we can do is choose what we
look at online. We have got to become our own senses.
We cannot have a chief censor anymore. They cannot stop
what's on the internet. We've got to censor it for ourselves.
We've got to police what we consume on the internet,
and we more importantly have to teach our kids to
police what they consume on the internet for their mental
health as well, and to guard what they see. The algorithm, well,
(06:46):
sometimes get around it, but the algorithm will be guided
by what you show an interest in. You click on
this kind of stuff, you'll get more of it fed
to you. So don't click on it. So, yes, what
happened yesterday was disgusting, or what happened earlier this week
was discussing was called out yesterday was disgusting, But it
is not going to stop. The only thing you can
do is choose what you look at.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, look away, guys, look away. Don't click. Don't click, Uh,
don't click, just don't click. It's like then you just
say no, isn't it? Don't click right now? So I
(07:23):
think part of the problem is kids had they raised
part of one problem. All problems and there are certain people.
Have you believed that at all stems from not keeping
their bedrooms tidy?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I think that's going a little bit too.
Speaker 8 (07:40):
What is the best technique to get your teenagers to
tidy their room? Because yet we've all been there, and
I reckon boys are worse than girls. Although I had
a debate with a colleague about that, and she has
daughters and she said her daughter's were fealthyre.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Was our kids?
Speaker 8 (07:58):
Oh? Actually a couple of them were pretty filky.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Yeah, well, my two youngest women. One was wonderful, she
was great, She kept everything neat and tidy. The other
you knew where you'd been through the house because of
her clothes everywhere and going, what the how does that happen?
Speaker 8 (08:13):
Same way, same investment in them.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, what is the the age where you're not allowed
to leave them out in the snow anymore? What do
you mean you can't ever do that?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
What are you talking about? News talks?
Speaker 6 (08:33):
That bean?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
It was satire. It was right there, that's gels you
were worrying. We're going to finish up here with the
curious case of the Reading Robber.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
A thief in Rome robbed a house and found a
book called about Homer's Iliad from the point of view
of the god, so engrossed that he just stayed there
reading the book and ended up getting caught. Yeah, for interesting,
(09:08):
isn't it. That's the story. There's probably more to it.
Once inside, he became stratted by a book on a
bedside tape and halted the burglary so he could read.
The seventy one year old homeowner woke up in front
of the man who was sitting down on bed engrossed
in the pages, tried to escape, arrested shortly afterwards. The
(09:29):
book Gillie Day as Laddie Penitifol examined home as Alid
from the point of view of the gods. The author
it's still a book with an author around, told the newspaper,
I'd like to collect connect with the alleged thief, so
give him a copy of the book. Nice story. Don't
even want to talk to me about the book that's
(09:50):
got your most engrossed. Well, I imagine most bank robbers
wouldn't start reading once they went on a job, would they.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
We never create a lot of these stories about people
robbing houses and stuff like that. You don't really know
what state of mind there and do you it is
sometimes one of their role in drugon They don't really
know where they are anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I think probably we've been underestimating criminals maybe, and perhaps
there's spend less money on security cameras and more money
on a decent library. Definitely you want some real doorstop
(10:32):
books in there, get the Dune books in there that
they're pretty heavyweight. I certainly recommend the three Body Problem
books translated from the original Chinese. I think, yeah, this
(10:57):
sounds like a great way to come back crime this
with literature into it. I am glen hat that has
been news talks of. We'll be met with more great
ideas like that and hopefully, you know, we'll find that
a society hasn't met its end just quite yet.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Tomorrow, News Talk is Talking zid bean
Speaker 1 (11:25):
For more from US Talk sid B, listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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