September 1, 2024 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) It's Kamala's to Lose/Don't Let Democracy Get In the Way of Speed/All Blacks About as Bad as Expected/Meanwhile, Back Here In New Zealand, Not In Paris/Going it Alone
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Used Talk sed BE Talk said.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean the
Weekend edition, first of yesterday's news. We're looking back at
Sunday and Saturday on our Father's Day kind of a weekend,
and today we will be talking speed limits changes being proposed.
(00:43):
They're all blacks. That sort of went pretty much as
everybody expected it, I think, didn't it well the result anyway,
they sort of lost by about the amount that most
people I heard anyway.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Last week.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Predicting Jack decides to talk to somebody who's not at
the Paralympics about the Paralympics.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
And Georgia not goes it alone. But before any of.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
That, Kamala Harris Friday in the interview. Finally an interview,
because that matters, doesn't it. How many interviews you do.
You can't win in an election without doing interviews.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Apparently people love him or hate him. No one's kind
of in the middle, you know what I mean. No
One just feels kind of ambivalent about Donald Trump. No
one's six out of ten on Donald Trump. It just
means that any election in which he is a candidate
is not really going to be an election that focuses
on policy. It just focuses on Trump, right, And I
think that in Kamala Harris's vibe zy campaign, one thing
(01:42):
she is just doing extremely well is not talking about identity.
If she wins, she would be the first woman president,
she would be the first black woman president, she'd be
the first South Asian. All of these things are historic
and arguably significant, but they're also self evident, and I
just I think it's really notable that she and her
(02:03):
supporters and other high profile Democrats aren't talking about them.
And you look at that interview, you look at that question,
you look at that opportunity to talk about identity, and
I thought it was incredible how she immediately shut it down.
And I just contrast that with Hillary Clinton eight years ago,
when so much of the campaign centered on the possibility
(02:24):
of her becoming America's first woman president. Carmala Harris has
chosen a different message instead of I'm with her, she's
chosen I'm not him.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, exactly, I think she's.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
And I don't know that it really matters too much
who the Democrats had put out. There just had to
be somebody who sounded relatively normal, and she does compared
to Trump and Joe Biden. You know, anybody who can
speak and coherent sentences, do their speech, get off the
(03:04):
stage and not just waffle on with random personal attacks
that are mostly unfounded. It's the breath of fresh year,
aren't they?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
News?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Talk z Bean right now? As Sime and Brown.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I feel like we should be paying him here at ZIB.
He seems to be on zb every five minutes. Who
knew that his portfolio was going to be so significant.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
He's got a lot of portfolios, I think.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
But anyway, so speed limits, are we going to get
to go faster on the Call road.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
With these decisions to up the speed limit? Do you
base these decisions on research evidence or just a hunch.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
It's based on the design standard that the road was
built to. These roads are built to a safe standard
of being able to drive at one hundred and ten
kilometers per hour, and so we are going through the
process to have those speed limits applied, to have it
increased one hundred and ten kilometers per so people can
travel quickly and safely, reduce their travel times and get
where they want to go along. There's major pieces of
(04:09):
infrastructure which have been built to that standard.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Do you actually have to sort of consult with anyone
in particular or you just say, look, talk to the
people who designed the roads and say, what was this
designed for?
Speaker 7 (04:19):
Well, that's a really good question. I mean, under the
current speed limit rule, there has to be a public consultation,
and so that is what's happening. The public will be
consulting on whether they want to have that speed limit
increased under the new proposed speed limit rule, which we've
just finished are we're just in the process of completing.
When it comes to roads that are built to one
(04:41):
hundred and ten kilometers per hour, that will allow the
Director of Land Transport to just simply apply that speed
limit when the road opens.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
There seems to be a general feeling, doesn't there about
this fast track? Kick ask government? There's a little bit
too much public consultation going on with a lot of things.
You know, there are some random people in the public,
aren't there. You come across them every day you think, oh, jeez,
(05:08):
prefer you didn't ever say about things.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
But it kind of is how democracy works, isn't it was.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
We just sort of want harsh all democracy that suits us.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
It's tricky. It's tricky talk sib okay. So yes, the
All Blacks in.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Ellis Park in Johannesburg, up high.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I watch the game.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I stead of fast forwarded some of it. Very messy
sort of a game, a lot of mistakes from both sides.
They both looked like they found the altitude hard. Actually,
the South Africans didn't look like they found it much
easier than the All Blacks, to be fair, they sort
of just sort of looked like, you know, which team
could last and think and make good decisions would win,
(05:59):
And that ended up being the South Africans with us
yet again just kicking the ball away. How many games
we lost doing that?
Speaker 8 (06:06):
Let'st that's say, fourteen penalties five A lot of those
penalties from pressure, as you've mentioned. How big a factor
do you think that was?
Speaker 9 (06:14):
Yeah, Like, obviously compounding penalties make it really tough, and
then then that that results in the yellow and then
you got seven points, and you know, it all sort
of rolls into one. But you know, little things we
can do around. You know, a couple of times we
get down into their end and a little simple things.
Let let the South Africans off the hock where we
could have maybe put them away with fifteen minutes ago
(06:34):
we felt and then you know, not being able to
get out of their corner two or three times as vital.
So you know, those are the little moments which which
mean that the pressure just gets too much for and
ends up with yellow cards or penalties.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
Did you feel in control when when Caleb Clark scored
a second try to make it twenty seven to seventeen,
You do?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
You feel in a pretty good place?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Then?
Speaker 9 (06:58):
Oh, look, you never feel in control Ellis Park when you're.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Not at all.
Speaker 9 (07:03):
But definitely we felt like, you know whereas a real
opportunity to sort of turn the screa get out of
where in the end. And then when we went down there,
I think we're twelve, We had a penalty and we
kicked to the corner.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
If we'd have scored there, maybe it might have felt comfortable.
Speaker 9 (07:17):
But yeah, a big moment where we don't we don't
get points to make up down the other.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
End and she's not thirty four to.
Speaker 9 (07:25):
What would have been you know where we're we're not
thirty four seventeen, we're now twenty seven twenty four.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So a massive swings and tight moments in a test match.
Speaker 8 (07:35):
Yeah, you've talked a couple of times there about not
being able to get out from your own end. What's
the ideal strategy for that?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Is it just better kicking?
Speaker 10 (07:41):
No?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
I think it's please stop kicking.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I mean, I was surprised how well I lose forward
what seemed to be doing and the rack and mall
situation irony. I mean, I'm just from what I can
remember watching, I feel like they grabbed the ball off
us once in a rack of them. All the rest
of the time, we were doing a pretty good job
of retaining it. So why wouldn't we just keep kicking
it away? But yes, obviously giving away all the penalties. Man,
(08:08):
it sounds like such a rugby experann't I I'm so expert.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Ah. There was one of the many all black assistant coaches.
I don't know how many there are.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I mean, I think we've got one lesson we used to,
but they hire somebody else.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
There's a guy named Jason. There was actually two guys
named Jason.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
You know what I think of it?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Now we're sticking with sport. The Paralympics have been on
for a week and Sophie Fasco, of course.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Our most successful paralympian and not there at this time,
so got decided to talk with her.
Speaker 11 (08:45):
I think we first crossed paths when you.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
Were maybe fifteen years old, correct.
Speaker 11 (08:50):
Sculp, So another lifetime, which means that the last time
there was a Paralympic Games being contested in which you
weren't in the pool, you were eleven.
Speaker 9 (09:03):
I was.
Speaker 12 (09:04):
I just missed out actually as well?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Are you serious?
Speaker 9 (09:07):
Yes?
Speaker 12 (09:08):
I was like zero point zero something from qualifying, but
it was I mean, it wasn't as if I was
trying to qualify for those particularly Wolf for Athens at
the time. It was just at Nationals and there was
obviously qualifying times on the sheet. Yeah, and I just
missed out, but it wasn't obviously on my rad a.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (09:29):
Yeah, I don't think it held you back in the end,
to be perfectly honest, So I'm sure eveyone I was
asking you this, but what is it like? How does
it change your perspective on the Games to not be
competing for the first time since before you're a teenager?
Speaker 12 (09:43):
Look, to be honest, it has been a little bit
up and down. Yeah, being the first time in sixteen years.
Every time I've been getting ready for a Paralympics. Obviously,
the Olympics is a couple of weeks prior to us,
and I've always been in a staging camp and that's
kind of been almost I like to call the Olympics
the warm up event for hour.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Of course, there you go. I guess what it's like.
Can not go over the Olympics, so I could.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Put an interviewed me about that. I didn't go to
the Allwix either. I guess that's not what he was
really going for.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Then silly again news talk.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Has it been to finish up here? Talking with Georgia
from Brudes? She's not from Brudes at the moment, She's
going it alone.
Speaker 8 (10:33):
After a decade with Brudes. How does it feel going alone?
Speaker 10 (10:37):
It feels like a lot of different things. It feels
really cool in a lot of ways. So just I
don't know, feel like a sense of independency and you know,
feel like I'm yeah, doing like the first first like work,
(11:01):
saying outside of my brother for a for a long time,
and so that's cool. But it's also you know, it's
it's very different. I have to wear a few more.
Speaker 11 (11:10):
Hats and.
Speaker 10 (11:12):
Be a little bit more self efficient, self sufficient. But
it's cool. I like it. I like the challenge.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Are you feeling a little bit grown up?
Speaker 10 (11:25):
Oh yeah, I'm like I'm thirty now, so that on
its own feels like such a significant, like.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
Grown up number.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
But yeah, it feels good.
Speaker 10 (11:40):
It feels like all the stuff that I learned over
the last ten years is coming in handy. But I
still have this feeling that I'm at the beginning of something,
and that's like kind of such a sweet spot, you know,
Like it's really nice to be feeling like it's fresh,
but also I have all this experience to draw upon.
(12:01):
It's nice.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
It makes me feel calm.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I mean, we're all keen on doing calm, aren't we.
I know.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
What makes me feel calm is finishing everything that I've
got to do. And so now that I finished this podcast,
I'm one step closer to calm. It's got this pisky,
my costing griefist to get out of the way, and
then I should have a calm day.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I hope you have one too. And that was more chaos.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Tomorrows News Talk is talking zid bean For more from
news Talk, said b listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Used Talk sed BE Talk said.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean the
Weekend edition, first of yesterday's news. We're looking back at
Sunday and Saturday on our Father's Day kind of a weekend,
and today we will be talking speed limits changes being proposed.
(00:43):
They're all blacks. That sort of went pretty much as
everybody expected it, I think, didn't it well the result anyway,
they sort of lost by about the amount that most
people I heard anyway.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Last week.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Predicting Jack decides to talk to somebody who's not at
the Paralympics about the Paralympics.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
And Georgia not goes it alone. But before any of.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
That, Kamala Harris Friday in the interview. Finally an interview,
because that matters, doesn't it. How many interviews you do.
You can't win in an election without doing interviews.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Apparently people love him or hate him. No one's kind
of in the middle, you know what I mean. No
One just feels kind of ambivalent about Donald Trump. No
one's six out of ten on Donald Trump. It just
means that any election in which he is a candidate
is not really going to be an election that focuses
on policy. It just focuses on Trump, right, And I
think that in Kamala Harris's vibe zy campaign, one thing
(01:42):
she is just doing extremely well is not talking about identity.
If she wins, she would be the first woman president,
she would be the first black woman president, she'd be
the first South Asian. All of these things are historic
and arguably significant, but they're also self evident, and I
just I think it's really notable that she and her
(02:03):
supporters and other high profile Democrats aren't talking about them.
And you look at that interview, you look at that question,
you look at that opportunity to talk about identity, and
I thought it was incredible how she immediately shut it down.
And I just contrast that with Hillary Clinton eight years ago,
when so much of the campaign centered on the possibility
(02:24):
of her becoming America's first woman president. Carmala Harris has
chosen a different message instead of I'm with her, she's
chosen I'm not him.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, exactly, I think she's.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
And I don't know that it really matters too much
who the Democrats had put out. There just had to
be somebody who sounded relatively normal, and she does compared
to Trump and Joe Biden. You know, anybody who can
speak and coherent sentences, do their speech, get off the
(03:04):
stage and not just waffle on with random personal attacks
that are mostly unfounded. It's the breath of fresh year,
aren't they?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
News?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Talk z Bean right now? As Sime and Brown.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I feel like we should be paying him here at ZIB.
He seems to be on zb every five minutes. Who
knew that his portfolio was going to be so significant.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
He's got a lot of portfolios, I think.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
But anyway, so speed limits, are we going to get
to go faster on the Call road.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
With these decisions to up the speed limit? Do you
base these decisions on research evidence or just a hunch.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
It's based on the design standard that the road was
built to. These roads are built to a safe standard
of being able to drive at one hundred and ten
kilometers per hour, and so we are going through the
process to have those speed limits applied, to have it
increased one hundred and ten kilometers per so people can
travel quickly and safely, reduce their travel times and get
where they want to go along. There's major pieces of
(04:09):
infrastructure which have been built to that standard.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Do you actually have to sort of consult with anyone
in particular or you just say, look, talk to the
people who designed the roads and say, what was this
designed for?
Speaker 7 (04:19):
Well, that's a really good question. I mean, under the
current speed limit rule, there has to be a public consultation,
and so that is what's happening. The public will be
consulting on whether they want to have that speed limit
increased under the new proposed speed limit rule, which we've
just finished are we're just in the process of completing.
When it comes to roads that are built to one
(04:41):
hundred and ten kilometers per hour, that will allow the
Director of Land Transport to just simply apply that speed
limit when the road opens.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
There seems to be a general feeling, doesn't there about
this fast track? Kick ask government? There's a little bit
too much public consultation going on with a lot of things.
You know, there are some random people in the public,
aren't there. You come across them every day you think, oh, jeez,
(05:08):
prefer you didn't ever say about things.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
But it kind of is how democracy works, isn't it was.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
We just sort of want harsh all democracy that suits us.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
It's tricky. It's tricky talk sib okay. So yes, the
All Blacks in.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Ellis Park in Johannesburg, up high.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I watch the game.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I stead of fast forwarded some of it. Very messy
sort of a game, a lot of mistakes from both sides.
They both looked like they found the altitude hard. Actually,
the South Africans didn't look like they found it much
easier than the All Blacks, to be fair, they sort
of just sort of looked like, you know, which team
could last and think and make good decisions would win,
(05:59):
And that ended up being the South Africans with us
yet again just kicking the ball away. How many games
we lost doing that?
Speaker 8 (06:06):
Let'st that's say, fourteen penalties five A lot of those
penalties from pressure, as you've mentioned. How big a factor
do you think that was?
Speaker 9 (06:14):
Yeah, Like, obviously compounding penalties make it really tough, and
then then that that results in the yellow and then
you got seven points, and you know, it all sort
of rolls into one. But you know, little things we
can do around. You know, a couple of times we
get down into their end and a little simple things.
Let let the South Africans off the hock where we
could have maybe put them away with fifteen minutes ago
(06:34):
we felt and then you know, not being able to
get out of their corner two or three times as vital.
So you know, those are the little moments which which
mean that the pressure just gets too much for and
ends up with yellow cards or penalties.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
Did you feel in control when when Caleb Clark scored
a second try to make it twenty seven to seventeen,
You do?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
You feel in a pretty good place?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Then?
Speaker 9 (06:58):
Oh, look, you never feel in control Ellis Park when you're.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Not at all.
Speaker 9 (07:03):
But definitely we felt like, you know whereas a real
opportunity to sort of turn the screa get out of
where in the end. And then when we went down there,
I think we're twelve, We had a penalty and we
kicked to the corner.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
If we'd have scored there, maybe it might have felt comfortable.
Speaker 9 (07:17):
But yeah, a big moment where we don't we don't
get points to make up down the other.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
End and she's not thirty four to.
Speaker 9 (07:25):
What would have been you know where we're we're not
thirty four seventeen, we're now twenty seven twenty four.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So a massive swings and tight moments in a test match.
Speaker 8 (07:35):
Yeah, you've talked a couple of times there about not
being able to get out from your own end. What's
the ideal strategy for that?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Is it just better kicking?
Speaker 10 (07:41):
No?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
I think it's please stop kicking.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I mean, I was surprised how well I lose forward
what seemed to be doing and the rack and mall
situation irony. I mean, I'm just from what I can
remember watching, I feel like they grabbed the ball off
us once in a rack of them. All the rest
of the time, we were doing a pretty good job
of retaining it. So why wouldn't we just keep kicking
it away? But yes, obviously giving away all the penalties. Man,
(08:08):
it sounds like such a rugby experann't I I'm so expert.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Ah. There was one of the many all black assistant coaches.
I don't know how many there are.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I mean, I think we've got one lesson we used to,
but they hire somebody else.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
There's a guy named Jason. There was actually two guys
named Jason.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
You know what I think of it?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Now we're sticking with sport. The Paralympics have been on
for a week and Sophie Fasco, of course.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Our most successful paralympian and not there at this time,
so got decided to talk with her.
Speaker 11 (08:45):
I think we first crossed paths when you.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
Were maybe fifteen years old, correct.
Speaker 11 (08:50):
Sculp, So another lifetime, which means that the last time
there was a Paralympic Games being contested in which you
weren't in the pool, you were eleven.
Speaker 9 (09:03):
I was.
Speaker 12 (09:04):
I just missed out actually as well?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Are you serious?
Speaker 9 (09:07):
Yes?
Speaker 12 (09:08):
I was like zero point zero something from qualifying, but
it was I mean, it wasn't as if I was
trying to qualify for those particularly Wolf for Athens at
the time. It was just at Nationals and there was
obviously qualifying times on the sheet. Yeah, and I just
missed out, but it wasn't obviously on my rad a.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (09:29):
Yeah, I don't think it held you back in the end,
to be perfectly honest, So I'm sure eveyone I was
asking you this, but what is it like? How does
it change your perspective on the Games to not be
competing for the first time since before you're a teenager?
Speaker 12 (09:43):
Look, to be honest, it has been a little bit
up and down. Yeah, being the first time in sixteen years.
Every time I've been getting ready for a Paralympics. Obviously,
the Olympics is a couple of weeks prior to us,
and I've always been in a staging camp and that's
kind of been almost I like to call the Olympics
the warm up event for hour.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Of course, there you go. I guess what it's like.
Can not go over the Olympics, so I could.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Put an interviewed me about that. I didn't go to
the Allwix either. I guess that's not what he was
really going for.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Then silly again news talk.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Has it been to finish up here? Talking with Georgia
from Brudes? She's not from Brudes at the moment, She's
going it alone.
Speaker 8 (10:33):
After a decade with Brudes. How does it feel going alone?
Speaker 10 (10:37):
It feels like a lot of different things. It feels
really cool in a lot of ways. So just I
don't know, feel like a sense of independency and you know,
feel like I'm yeah, doing like the first first like work,
(11:01):
saying outside of my brother for a for a long time,
and so that's cool. But it's also you know, it's
it's very different. I have to wear a few more.
Speaker 11 (11:10):
Hats and.
Speaker 10 (11:12):
Be a little bit more self efficient, self sufficient. But
it's cool. I like it. I like the challenge.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Are you feeling a little bit grown up?
Speaker 10 (11:25):
Oh yeah, I'm like I'm thirty now, so that on
its own feels like such a significant, like.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
Grown up number.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
But yeah, it feels good.
Speaker 10 (11:40):
It feels like all the stuff that I learned over
the last ten years is coming in handy. But I
still have this feeling that I'm at the beginning of something,
and that's like kind of such a sweet spot, you know,
Like it's really nice to be feeling like it's fresh,
but also I have all this experience to draw upon.
(12:01):
It's nice.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
It makes me feel calm.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I mean, we're all keen on doing calm, aren't we.
I know.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
What makes me feel calm is finishing everything that I've
got to do. And so now that I finished this podcast,
I'm one step closer to calm. It's got this pisky,
my costing griefist to get out of the way, and
then I should have a calm day.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I hope you have one too. And that was more chaos.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Tomorrows News Talk is talking zid bean For more from
news Talk, said b listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.