September 3, 2024 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) We Hate Them All Equally/The Problem with the Public Service Is it's Not Private/Flower Rage/Razor Rage
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen harton we are
looking back at Tuesday. Is the reason that public services
like health and education are so bad is because the
public if private, they might do a bit of job
(00:44):
daffodel season, but don't pick them. And everybody is an
expert on the all blacks. But before any of that,
the Land transport plan no speed bumps, more speed, So
let's get some reaction.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Speed bumps feel to me like the new cycle ways
in terms of this culture. Would you know what I mean?
What happened here is much the same problem as with
the cycle ways, not in and of themselves a bad
idea at all. I mean, if you've got to slow
down the cars around a school, which is fair enough,
then a speed bump's a great idea. If you've got
to protect a cyclist from fast moving traffic right next
(01:24):
to them, then a cycle way is a great idea.
But what's gone wrong is that councils appear to be
obsessed with doing the most expensive version of both of
these things, and somehow, magically, against everyone's better judgment, councils
even managed to find a way to make a bump
in the road enormously expensive. I mean, there was the
one in Great Lynn and Auckland that cost half a
(01:44):
million dollars, most of that because of the traffic management, yes,
but half a million dollars. The one in three Kings
in Auckland that was laid, then ripped up and then
laid again within about a year and a half or
something like that, at the cost of six hundred thousand dollars.
Then there were the ones in Wellington that they haven't
built yet, but this is the subject of the council
walk out the other day. Five of them in the
(02:05):
space of one point seven k's that will cost one
hundred and fifty dollars each. That is the problem with
the speed bumps. That is why a few people are
furious about them, because what should just be a simple
job of pouring a lump of tarsal on the road
and then kind of smoothing it out and making it
a bit round, has become a massive engineering feat which
costs the same as building a house somewhere down country.
(02:27):
Very few people are going to be upset about this
with SIME and Brown councils will be on notice as well,
because now every single speed bump that you see popping
up in your local area will be ordered and pay
for out of your rate payer dollars. And it's coming
from the very councils who are jacking up your rates
by huge amounts at the moment. So every single speed
bump from here on in has got to be justified.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I'd say, you come across one of those ones where
you think it's going to be a speed bump and
it's just paint. It's like a because you know how
they often have been where crossings are but Estrin crossings,
and it's painted sort of on an angle, and you think,
oh my goodness, I'm going it's laid down otherwise that
(03:07):
I'll put the bottle of the car through the cover
of the car, and then it turns out, I know
it's just paint. Who kept drivings the middle of.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
The night news talk z been.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
That I have speedbam rage, right, not at all, Not
that I'm frustrated by them. How about Kerry?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Is she one billion was announced for the rail network.
Labor says that's not enough. Tang says the investment is
about eight hundred million lower than advertised. Labour's already put
money towards the Lower North Ireland rail investment package. They
did so in last year's budget, and he says an
effect Simon Brown's rennouncing an announcement, which of course other
(03:47):
political parties never do. Remember the announcement of an announcement,
Remember the infestation of that along with the potholes. So
any transport plan from the coalition government was never going
to please the Greens ever. Ever. Ever, I don't think
any transport plan, even from Labor, please the Greens ever ever.
(04:09):
But Simme and Brown says they were elected to focus
on roads and highways to make New Zealand's transport networks
more efficient, to be able to get us from point
A to point B in a more expeditious fashion, and
that is what the coalition government is doing.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Sammy and Brown is telling us on the mic Hosking
Breakfast yesterday that one of the things they're going to
do is take a more standardized approach to things like bridges,
and again it's one of these things from this kikas
fas Trak government. That just ring distant alarm bells in
the back of my mind because I don't know that
(04:49):
we do actually want all that bridges to be exactly
the same. But then I said that to Mike Hosking
and he said, well, these are hard troubled times, and
you know whiches are forever, aren't they? Well, hopefully they are.
And then in saying that this PenLink thing where had
(05:09):
certainly the bridge was more complicated than they thought it
was going to be. That is an issue when it
makes suddenly makes a project two years longer to complete.
It's complicated, isn't.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's getting for me to be ques talk sippy?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Is the problem is just not enough private input and
there's too much public bureaucracy? Is it the problem?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Is there a reason we have students failing exams, teacher shortages,
low pay, hospital wait times and a lack of access
to quality care? Is the reason for this because they're
all run by the state? I know, big question for
a Tuesday Ryan settled down. The workforces are never happy,
but they heavily unionize too. Is that part of the
problem or is that an attempt at a solution don't
(05:54):
get me wrong. Big corporates have their own issues. We
hate to see them profit, and I don't imagine that
we would stomach big profits off our kids education or
grandma's hip replacement. We consider these things to be right,
and international examples of privatized healthcare done exactly scream success.
Get a America. But if we're paying taxes an adequate
(06:19):
service for basic needs is not being provided. Is it
not fair to ask whether the fact that their public
entities might just be part of the problem.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yes, exactly, Oh I'm my goodness had to get pass,
isn't it? And then you would like when you break
it down to the council level as well, and you
realize the kinds of people who are on councils are
the kinds of people who want to be on councils,
and they had often not the kind of people you
won't running anything, let alone an entire city or town.
(06:51):
Oh dear, got a lot of unsolvable problems on the
podcast this morning. A difficult season, of course. I think
it was deficuel day the other day, wasn't it. But man,
people get protective of about them.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
I guess she don't know why sam My eldest daughter says,
let's go and take some photos within the daffodils with
all the kids.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Definitive gardens that they're famous for.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
And it's beautiful. There's like a million daffodils. Now, this
is hand on heart gospel truth. What there was lots
of daffinitil heads that had been packed by obviously little kids,
and there was trample marks around the big beds of
daffodils where people were having the photographs. Little so Miller
is three, Zeb is like one and a half. And
(07:38):
I gave them some dafinil heads off the ground. I
ordinarily would have picked them, but because there was so
much pushback on front of them. But not pick dafidils
you get hung, drawn and courted.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
But these were daffodils that were broken off and lying
on the ground.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
Gave them to the little kiddies. They go thanks chief.
Well Zeb didn't because he can't talk, he's one and
a half. Then this woman, what bowl, she Karen, comes
up and she she remonstrates and says, don't you give
those children like full noise, really saying that to you
to me right? And I said, ah a, we didn't
(08:12):
pick them, right, So were you listening to radio on Friday?
We didn't pick them on the ground. And then my
daughter's arcd up a bit and they said, hey, excuse me,
we didn't pick these, and she would not look back up.
She was just like And then after we'd said we
didn't pick them, after my daughter had said that, my children,
I've told them we don't pick. They're not picked.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Let it go.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
They were lying on the ground.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
She goes up to Zib who's one and a half
and says, now, don't you pick those flowers and points
of finger at this guy. She what, And he's one
and a half and this is old duck, old duck. Seriously,
I mean you don't. You just don't do that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Well, no, so what did you do to that? Because
I would have ACKed up as the grand parent.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
I just walked away because I thought, well, it's like
road rage. This is staff at all rage, and I
didn't want to be a part of it.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Flowers are a very ironic thing to get angry about,
don't they You're like getting angry about butterflies. Clouds. People
do get angry about clouds, of course, prayed against clouds, which.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Great World News talks it bean.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
If you're going to get angry. It should be something
about It should be about something you know, decent, proper,
you know, like again being played between Betty guys.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Ah.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
So everyone's enjoying Lowest a great deal and I didn't
know about that. But people are loving Lowest online. So
if you want to say something about that Facebook page,
Marcus Lush and nights. But here's what people are saying.
Just got this text through Marcus mate slightly off topic
and just tuned in for the Tuesday night debrief. But
have you heard back from Lowest tonight? Just thought she
(09:58):
might have a mature response to Dalton properly been available
this weekend.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
I actually can't to.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Recap on Lowest. I think she just thought that.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Scott Robertson was terrible. Basically.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
I don't think there was anything about the players. I
think she was happy with the players, wasn't you Dan,
It was just it was just if it's just hated Scott,
hated him, And I suspect she hated him because he's
from christ Jurich and because he breakdancers. I'll tell you what,
(10:34):
and I've often said that I've no, I won't even
go to that long, boring anecdote. Anyway, Lois is going
to watch the game on Sunday and she's going to
call us back on Monday. Obviously the All Blacks will win,
but she doesn't want the All Blacks to win. She
wants him to lose because she wants Scott Robertson to
(10:55):
lose his job. She keept going on about was it
who's going about Wayne Gatland?
Speaker 5 (11:03):
What was the caller?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
The caller?
Speaker 7 (11:05):
After he was going about that Wayne Gatland should have
been the coach, I said, warriorshed him too. Anyway, But
you know, I'm always split because I love the fact
that once upon a time we were that passionate about rugby.
But these days you've got weekend shopping, You've got the Kadeshians,
(11:27):
You've got selling sunset. There's so much more, Ah, there's
so much more.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Do you think people who were watching rugby before are
now watching the Kardashians been cool a week I've never
really watched it, perfect Cadashians, bitters, I've watched any of rugby.
Maybe I should give it a go because I certainly
(11:54):
got prospeated watching the rugby in the weekend. Please stopped
Girom the ball the way it's all I asked to
stop taking our position away. Who's responsible for that?
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Coach?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Players, please stop doing me. I'm Glenn Hat. There's been
new talks. I've been I'll be back here with more
pointless requests to supports, teams and coaches who can't hear me.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Ma used Talking Talking zid bean. For more from News
Talk sid B, listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk, sed B Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen harton we are
looking back at Tuesday. Is the reason that public services
like health and education are so bad is because the
public if private, they might do a bit of job
(00:44):
daffodel season, but don't pick them. And everybody is an
expert on the all blacks. But before any of that,
the Land transport plan no speed bumps, more speed, So
let's get some reaction.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Speed bumps feel to me like the new cycle ways
in terms of this culture. Would you know what I mean?
What happened here is much the same problem as with
the cycle ways, not in and of themselves a bad
idea at all. I mean, if you've got to slow
down the cars around a school, which is fair enough,
then a speed bump's a great idea. If you've got
to protect a cyclist from fast moving traffic right next
(01:24):
to them, then a cycle way is a great idea.
But what's gone wrong is that councils appear to be
obsessed with doing the most expensive version of both of
these things, and somehow, magically, against everyone's better judgment, councils
even managed to find a way to make a bump
in the road enormously expensive. I mean, there was the
one in Great Lynn and Auckland that cost half a
(01:44):
million dollars, most of that because of the traffic management, yes,
but half a million dollars. The one in three Kings
in Auckland that was laid, then ripped up and then
laid again within about a year and a half or
something like that, at the cost of six hundred thousand dollars.
Then there were the ones in Wellington that they haven't
built yet, but this is the subject of the council
walk out the other day. Five of them in the
(02:05):
space of one point seven k's that will cost one
hundred and fifty dollars each. That is the problem with
the speed bumps. That is why a few people are
furious about them, because what should just be a simple
job of pouring a lump of tarsal on the road
and then kind of smoothing it out and making it
a bit round, has become a massive engineering feat which
costs the same as building a house somewhere down country.
(02:27):
Very few people are going to be upset about this
with SIME and Brown councils will be on notice as well,
because now every single speed bump that you see popping
up in your local area will be ordered and pay
for out of your rate payer dollars. And it's coming
from the very councils who are jacking up your rates
by huge amounts at the moment. So every single speed
bump from here on in has got to be justified.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I'd say, you come across one of those ones where
you think it's going to be a speed bump and
it's just paint. It's like a because you know how
they often have been where crossings are but Estrin crossings,
and it's painted sort of on an angle, and you think,
oh my goodness, I'm going it's laid down otherwise that
(03:07):
I'll put the bottle of the car through the cover
of the car, and then it turns out, I know
it's just paint. Who kept drivings the middle of.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
The night news talk z been.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
That I have speedbam rage, right, not at all, Not
that I'm frustrated by them. How about Kerry?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Is she one billion was announced for the rail network.
Labor says that's not enough. Tang says the investment is
about eight hundred million lower than advertised. Labour's already put
money towards the Lower North Ireland rail investment package. They
did so in last year's budget, and he says an
effect Simon Brown's rennouncing an announcement, which of course other
(03:47):
political parties never do. Remember the announcement of an announcement,
Remember the infestation of that along with the potholes. So
any transport plan from the coalition government was never going
to please the Greens ever. Ever. Ever, I don't think
any transport plan, even from Labor, please the Greens ever ever.
(04:09):
But Simme and Brown says they were elected to focus
on roads and highways to make New Zealand's transport networks
more efficient, to be able to get us from point
A to point B in a more expeditious fashion, and
that is what the coalition government is doing.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Sammy and Brown is telling us on the mic Hosking
Breakfast yesterday that one of the things they're going to
do is take a more standardized approach to things like bridges,
and again it's one of these things from this kikas
fas Trak government. That just ring distant alarm bells in
the back of my mind because I don't know that
(04:49):
we do actually want all that bridges to be exactly
the same. But then I said that to Mike Hosking
and he said, well, these are hard troubled times, and
you know whiches are forever, aren't they? Well, hopefully they are.
And then in saying that this PenLink thing where had
(05:09):
certainly the bridge was more complicated than they thought it
was going to be. That is an issue when it
makes suddenly makes a project two years longer to complete.
It's complicated, isn't.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's getting for me to be ques talk sippy?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Is the problem is just not enough private input and
there's too much public bureaucracy? Is it the problem?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Is there a reason we have students failing exams, teacher shortages,
low pay, hospital wait times and a lack of access
to quality care? Is the reason for this because they're
all run by the state? I know, big question for
a Tuesday Ryan settled down. The workforces are never happy,
but they heavily unionize too. Is that part of the
problem or is that an attempt at a solution don't
(05:54):
get me wrong. Big corporates have their own issues. We
hate to see them profit, and I don't imagine that
we would stomach big profits off our kids education or
grandma's hip replacement. We consider these things to be right,
and international examples of privatized healthcare done exactly scream success.
Get a America. But if we're paying taxes an adequate
(06:19):
service for basic needs is not being provided. Is it
not fair to ask whether the fact that their public
entities might just be part of the problem.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yes, exactly, Oh I'm my goodness had to get pass,
isn't it? And then you would like when you break
it down to the council level as well, and you
realize the kinds of people who are on councils are
the kinds of people who want to be on councils,
and they had often not the kind of people you
won't running anything, let alone an entire city or town.
(06:51):
Oh dear, got a lot of unsolvable problems on the
podcast this morning. A difficult season, of course. I think
it was deficuel day the other day, wasn't it. But man,
people get protective of about them.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
I guess she don't know why sam My eldest daughter says,
let's go and take some photos within the daffodils with
all the kids.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Definitive gardens that they're famous for.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
And it's beautiful. There's like a million daffodils. Now, this
is hand on heart gospel truth. What there was lots
of daffinitil heads that had been packed by obviously little kids,
and there was trample marks around the big beds of
daffodils where people were having the photographs. Little so Miller
is three, Zeb is like one and a half. And
(07:38):
I gave them some dafinil heads off the ground. I
ordinarily would have picked them, but because there was so
much pushback on front of them. But not pick dafidils
you get hung, drawn and courted.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
But these were daffodils that were broken off and lying
on the ground.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
Gave them to the little kiddies. They go thanks chief.
Well Zeb didn't because he can't talk, he's one and
a half. Then this woman, what bowl, she Karen, comes
up and she she remonstrates and says, don't you give
those children like full noise, really saying that to you
to me right? And I said, ah a, we didn't
(08:12):
pick them, right, So were you listening to radio on Friday?
We didn't pick them on the ground. And then my
daughter's arcd up a bit and they said, hey, excuse me,
we didn't pick these, and she would not look back up.
She was just like And then after we'd said we
didn't pick them, after my daughter had said that, my children,
I've told them we don't pick. They're not picked.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Let it go.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
They were lying on the ground.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
She goes up to Zib who's one and a half
and says, now, don't you pick those flowers and points
of finger at this guy. She what, And he's one
and a half and this is old duck, old duck. Seriously,
I mean you don't. You just don't do that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Well, no, so what did you do to that? Because
I would have ACKed up as the grand parent.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
I just walked away because I thought, well, it's like
road rage. This is staff at all rage, and I
didn't want to be a part of it.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Flowers are a very ironic thing to get angry about,
don't they You're like getting angry about butterflies. Clouds. People
do get angry about clouds, of course, prayed against clouds, which.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Great World News talks it bean.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
If you're going to get angry. It should be something
about It should be about something you know, decent, proper,
you know, like again being played between Betty guys.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Ah.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
So everyone's enjoying Lowest a great deal and I didn't
know about that. But people are loving Lowest online. So
if you want to say something about that Facebook page,
Marcus Lush and nights. But here's what people are saying.
Just got this text through Marcus mate slightly off topic
and just tuned in for the Tuesday night debrief. But
have you heard back from Lowest tonight? Just thought she
(09:58):
might have a mature response to Dalton properly been available
this weekend.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
I actually can't to.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Recap on Lowest. I think she just thought that.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Scott Robertson was terrible. Basically.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
I don't think there was anything about the players. I
think she was happy with the players, wasn't you Dan,
It was just it was just if it's just hated Scott,
hated him, And I suspect she hated him because he's
from christ Jurich and because he breakdancers. I'll tell you what,
(10:34):
and I've often said that I've no, I won't even
go to that long, boring anecdote. Anyway, Lois is going
to watch the game on Sunday and she's going to
call us back on Monday. Obviously the All Blacks will win,
but she doesn't want the All Blacks to win. She
wants him to lose because she wants Scott Robertson to
(10:55):
lose his job. She keept going on about was it
who's going about Wayne Gatland?
Speaker 5 (11:03):
What was the caller?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
The caller?
Speaker 7 (11:05):
After he was going about that Wayne Gatland should have
been the coach, I said, warriorshed him too. Anyway, But
you know, I'm always split because I love the fact
that once upon a time we were that passionate about rugby.
But these days you've got weekend shopping, You've got the Kadeshians,
(11:27):
You've got selling sunset. There's so much more, Ah, there's
so much more.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Do you think people who were watching rugby before are
now watching the Kardashians been cool a week I've never
really watched it, perfect Cadashians, bitters, I've watched any of rugby.
Maybe I should give it a go because I certainly
(11:54):
got prospeated watching the rugby in the weekend. Please stopped
Girom the ball the way it's all I asked to
stop taking our position away. Who's responsible for that?
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Coach?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Players, please stop doing me. I'm Glenn Hat. There's been
new talks. I've been I'll be back here with more
pointless requests to supports, teams and coaches who can't hear me.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Ma used Talking Talking zid bean. For more from News
Talk sid B, listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
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