September 4, 2024 • 10 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) The Concept, Not the Actual Doctor/We're Still Being Ripped Off. Big Surprise/Welcome to NZ! If You Can Afford It/More Student Flat Terror/Commonwealth Games Now Nigel No-Friends
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am ben Hart and we
are looking back at Wednesday. The grocery. The grocery commissioner
has bad news for everybody. I think that's what we
can say there, especially him. The visitor levy has gone up,
(00:45):
it's more expensive to come here. Is online gambling a problem?
And where will the Commonwealth games go now that they're
not going to christ you today? But first up, Yeah,
so the family the idea of the family doctor is dead.
Apparently there's a GP crisis. Hang on, haven't we heard
(01:07):
this before?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
And this was with winter And you expect to have
to wait. If it's urgent, they do their best. If
it's urgent, you try and get into an after ours clinic,
but you have to have the money to pay, and
there has to be an after ours clinic open near you. So,
like I say, difficulty in accessing GPS no matter where
you are in the country. But if you have money,
(01:29):
if you have disposable income, you can get a result
a lot more easily. Do we try and attract them
from overseas? Do we try and attract young people pay
their student loans if they become a GP. I mean,
we've seen what happens when you when you try and
attract somebody with money and all the add ons and
(01:51):
the bells and whistles to get to talk at all.
If they don't want it. They don't want to have
the days of the family doctor gone, the way of
the more. We just have to adapt to a new
way and new style of doing things.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
It is a bit of a shame, isn't it. La
our doctors. It's a big operation. There's lots of doctors there.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It's kind of like a mini hospital in a way.
And if you want to get seen quickly, you won't
get to see your usual doctor.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
You just go to see a doctor.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And if you've got a particularly sensitive problem, and that
gets a bit orkies, doesn't it. Now you're wondering what
the sensitive problem is that I've got. I'm just speaking hypothetically.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
People don't get excited news talk, has it been?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
The Grocery Commissioner published his findings yesterday. It turns out
even though he's given them the hard word. Yogat's still
thirty three percent more expensive.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
God damn it.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
David, who loves a mountain biker Clark. It was him,
And what he did to fix the grocery system was
he set up a grocery commissioner. He brought in a
mandatory code of conduct, He put compulsory unit pricing on groceries,
and he forced more transparent loyalty schemes. I mean, who
thought that was going to make a difference. Isn't make
a rocket scientist to tell you that ain't going to
change nothing. In fact, on this very show we said
(03:08):
it ain't going to change nothing, it's not going to work,
and look, wow, here we are. It didn't work.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Now.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Actually, I'm not pessimistic about the situation, right because it
was clear that this like I'd baked this in. What
I'm thinking though, of all the things that David the
bike rider might have done, did or rather did that
might make a difference, he did set up the grocery commissioner.
And there's nothing like personal ambition and reputation to motivate someone.
And I get the feeling that Pia van Hiden might
(03:34):
realize that he actually does need to get this right
and sort this out for his own sake, for his
own reputation as the first guy to hold the job.
So I suspect that whatever comes next, whatever he wants
to do in order to fix the situation, may in
fact be more promising. And I am taking heart from
the strong language that he's used today saying we are
being ripped off. But as always, time will tell.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, that was weird, wasn't it. I mean it was
from strict straight out of the no shit Sherlock.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Department, wasn't it. We are being ripped off?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
That was the whole point. How come it's taken a
year to figure that out?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I don't know what's happening, Ques talk sav.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Are we about to e wrapt visitors to this country off?
There's one hundred dollars too much to come here, on
top of everything else that you have to pay, like
you know, not cheap to get here.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
It's a long way.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Our Aussie mates are exempt and they make up forty
percent of our market, so that's a good chunk who
won't be contributing, so shouldn't be affected in terms of
numbers visiting us here. The impact overall impact still quite unclear.
The government, on one hand says they've got MB advice,
which is always good advice, saying that it won't be
(04:43):
a significant impact. The industry says, we will have forty
eight thousand fewer visitors coming here and they'll take their
almost three hundred million dollars spend elsewhere, thank you very much.
The industry says this is alarming. It's possible they're both
right here. The total tourist numbers visiting in the year
to June three point two million, so forty eight thousand
(05:07):
is both not sign eificant if you're the government, but
alarming if you're the industry. The cold, hard reality is
we're not as hot as we used to be when
it comes to a New Zealand as a destination, not
as sexy, you could say. Post COVID, our recovery has stalled.
I think we're at about seventy three percent of pre
COVID levels in terms of visitors. Largely this is about costs,
(05:29):
not because our mountains are any less beautiful, our lakes
less attractive. Largely about the cost of getting here. But
those issues, you know, the plane supply, the roots, etc.
Should subside, and when that happens. Don't we want the
extra money to maintain our walking tracks and to give
the Germans somewhere to go to the loop? I would
(05:49):
have thought so. And if it's going to put anyone off,
wouldn't it be the low spending, high infrastructure using smelly
backpacker variety of which I have been one, of which
I have been one. I'm not disparaging them, well I
suppose I am a little disparaging myself. But don't we
want sort of higher spending, higher yield tourists coming here
(06:15):
using less of the country and less of its resources
and infrastructure, but spending more.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It is I mean, it is a funny thing, isn't it?
Like it is just like we've we've had a good
luck and we've we've thought, where can we squeeze some
money out of this industry? I know when they first
get here, just create this out of nothing, and you know,
(06:43):
and you just know that they'll just keep.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Putting it up and up and up, probably over.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
The years, just to keep squeezing some more money out.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
No, but nobody's going to notice. Let's move on, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So a bit of there's a bit of free song
around gambling gambling ads, gambling rules, gambling generally.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
And what about online game lag how's that working out?
Speaker 7 (07:12):
Hello Reese, Yeah, I think it gets worse.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (07:16):
My son's just come back from university and you know
all of his mates have piled in from Dunedin and
christ Church and Wellington. And in a flatting situation, picture
this your audio pizza and your box of beers, and
you have your sixty inch TV in the middle of
the living room, and these boys will bring up their
(07:36):
various online Poky accounts. One particular flat six boys, the
flats down fifty grand this year.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
What this is a student Uni student.
Speaker 9 (07:47):
Pack of students, six students communality. They're down fifty grand
in total.
Speaker 10 (07:51):
What are they betting on?
Speaker 9 (07:52):
It's just just online flots online Pokey's and it's flat
after flat after flat after flat down there.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Is it going on their student loan? Can they do that?
Speaker 9 (08:01):
You'd assume? So like one lad's down nine grand, the
other one's down five, and they're round sort of. And
then and then they can go on line and ban
themselves from these websites so that they gamble on. So
you know a handful of them have now gone on
and done that. But you know that's crippling at eighteen nineteen,
and it's Ben and talking a little bit to them
about it. It's done out of a place of boredom.
(08:22):
They're sort of sitting around, not much to do, like
we might have sat around and played cards. They just
it's someone's turn that night to be the person that's
going to spin their account, and they all sit around
and live the ups and downs for that guy for
the night he loses. Next night someone else loads their account.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
What a bizarre story, rece that's too scary. What are
they studying for? I just want to know that.
Speaker 9 (08:44):
Oh no, Look, it's a wide range of stuff down there,
done in christ heurge, and it's a wide cross section.
This squad maybe fifteen lads that I'm aware of. But
then they've all got stories about other flats doing the
same thing. It's almost like a bit of an investigative
journalism opportunity down it's having with online gambling in student
flat that.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Is terrifying, terrifying, Reese, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It is again, most stuff that goes on and student.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
Flats are terrifying.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Just you know, the piles of dishes.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I sent one of my kids off to their student
flat with their own coffee machine.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
There was an old coppee machine that we didn't use anymore,
and the state of it as we moved out of
that student flat. Talk about Yeah, biological experiments, news talk.
Has it been right? Let's finish up here.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Wondering about the Commonwealth Games is you know? I think
we all often do you know what's the point of them?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
No? No, no, where we're going to have them?
Speaker 10 (09:44):
Calm games in Christ You're not going ahead with them anymore.
They did a report and the report told them the
blondingly obvious. It was a daft idea from the beginning.
But why have the report? I think kind of the
same it was, didn't hurt. We've got more information now
we know well, I think we're pretty obvious to know beforehand.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Jeep has crazy.
Speaker 10 (10:10):
If Victoria don't want it, dub but don't want it,
you don't want it, it's a dud.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
So that pretty much leaves space and move them to space.
You should break a lot of records if you head
them in space, which is you know, I jump and
stuff like that. Yeah, if nobody wants them, let's just
not help them. This is a distance I am a
(10:37):
green hat. There's been newstalks it'd been. We'll be back
here breaking more records for you again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yearsly news Talkers talks it been for more from news
Talk said, be listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk sed B Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am ben Hart and we
are looking back at Wednesday. The grocery. The grocery commissioner
has bad news for everybody. I think that's what we
can say there, especially him. The visitor levy has gone up,
(00:45):
it's more expensive to come here. Is online gambling a problem?
And where will the Commonwealth games go now that they're
not going to christ you today? But first up, Yeah,
so the family the idea of the family doctor is dead.
Apparently there's a GP crisis. Hang on, haven't we heard
(01:07):
this before?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
And this was with winter And you expect to have
to wait. If it's urgent, they do their best. If
it's urgent, you try and get into an after ours clinic,
but you have to have the money to pay, and
there has to be an after ours clinic open near you. So,
like I say, difficulty in accessing GPS no matter where
you are in the country. But if you have money,
(01:29):
if you have disposable income, you can get a result
a lot more easily. Do we try and attract them
from overseas? Do we try and attract young people pay
their student loans if they become a GP. I mean,
we've seen what happens when you when you try and
attract somebody with money and all the add ons and
(01:51):
the bells and whistles to get to talk at all.
If they don't want it. They don't want to have
the days of the family doctor gone, the way of
the more. We just have to adapt to a new
way and new style of doing things.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
It is a bit of a shame, isn't it. La
our doctors. It's a big operation. There's lots of doctors there.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It's kind of like a mini hospital in a way.
And if you want to get seen quickly, you won't
get to see your usual doctor.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
You just go to see a doctor.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And if you've got a particularly sensitive problem, and that
gets a bit orkies, doesn't it. Now you're wondering what
the sensitive problem is that I've got. I'm just speaking hypothetically.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
People don't get excited news talk, has it been?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
The Grocery Commissioner published his findings yesterday. It turns out
even though he's given them the hard word. Yogat's still
thirty three percent more expensive.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
God damn it.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
David, who loves a mountain biker Clark. It was him,
And what he did to fix the grocery system was
he set up a grocery commissioner. He brought in a
mandatory code of conduct, He put compulsory unit pricing on groceries,
and he forced more transparent loyalty schemes. I mean, who
thought that was going to make a difference. Isn't make
a rocket scientist to tell you that ain't going to
change nothing. In fact, on this very show we said
(03:08):
it ain't going to change nothing, it's not going to work,
and look, wow, here we are. It didn't work.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Now.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Actually, I'm not pessimistic about the situation, right because it
was clear that this like I'd baked this in. What
I'm thinking though, of all the things that David the
bike rider might have done, did or rather did that
might make a difference, he did set up the grocery commissioner.
And there's nothing like personal ambition and reputation to motivate someone.
And I get the feeling that Pia van Hiden might
(03:34):
realize that he actually does need to get this right
and sort this out for his own sake, for his
own reputation as the first guy to hold the job.
So I suspect that whatever comes next, whatever he wants
to do in order to fix the situation, may in
fact be more promising. And I am taking heart from
the strong language that he's used today saying we are
being ripped off. But as always, time will tell.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, that was weird, wasn't it. I mean it was
from strict straight out of the no shit Sherlock.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Department, wasn't it. We are being ripped off?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
That was the whole point. How come it's taken a
year to figure that out?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I don't know what's happening, Ques talk sav.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Are we about to e wrapt visitors to this country off?
There's one hundred dollars too much to come here, on
top of everything else that you have to pay, like
you know, not cheap to get here.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
It's a long way.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Our Aussie mates are exempt and they make up forty
percent of our market, so that's a good chunk who
won't be contributing, so shouldn't be affected in terms of
numbers visiting us here. The impact overall impact still quite unclear.
The government, on one hand says they've got MB advice,
which is always good advice, saying that it won't be
(04:43):
a significant impact. The industry says, we will have forty
eight thousand fewer visitors coming here and they'll take their
almost three hundred million dollars spend elsewhere, thank you very much.
The industry says this is alarming. It's possible they're both
right here. The total tourist numbers visiting in the year
to June three point two million, so forty eight thousand
(05:07):
is both not sign eificant if you're the government, but
alarming if you're the industry. The cold, hard reality is
we're not as hot as we used to be when
it comes to a New Zealand as a destination, not
as sexy, you could say. Post COVID, our recovery has stalled.
I think we're at about seventy three percent of pre
COVID levels in terms of visitors. Largely this is about costs,
(05:29):
not because our mountains are any less beautiful, our lakes
less attractive. Largely about the cost of getting here. But
those issues, you know, the plane supply, the roots, etc.
Should subside, and when that happens. Don't we want the
extra money to maintain our walking tracks and to give
the Germans somewhere to go to the loop? I would
(05:49):
have thought so. And if it's going to put anyone off,
wouldn't it be the low spending, high infrastructure using smelly
backpacker variety of which I have been one, of which
I have been one. I'm not disparaging them, well I
suppose I am a little disparaging myself. But don't we
want sort of higher spending, higher yield tourists coming here
(06:15):
using less of the country and less of its resources
and infrastructure, but spending more.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It is I mean, it is a funny thing, isn't it?
Like it is just like we've we've had a good
luck and we've we've thought, where can we squeeze some
money out of this industry? I know when they first
get here, just create this out of nothing, and you know,
(06:43):
and you just know that they'll just keep.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Putting it up and up and up, probably over.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
The years, just to keep squeezing some more money out.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
No, but nobody's going to notice. Let's move on, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So a bit of there's a bit of free song
around gambling gambling ads, gambling rules, gambling generally.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
And what about online game lag how's that working out?
Speaker 7 (07:12):
Hello Reese, Yeah, I think it gets worse.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (07:16):
My son's just come back from university and you know
all of his mates have piled in from Dunedin and
christ Church and Wellington. And in a flatting situation, picture
this your audio pizza and your box of beers, and
you have your sixty inch TV in the middle of
the living room, and these boys will bring up their
(07:36):
various online Poky accounts. One particular flat six boys, the
flats down fifty grand this year.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
What this is a student Uni student.
Speaker 9 (07:47):
Pack of students, six students communality. They're down fifty grand
in total.
Speaker 10 (07:51):
What are they betting on?
Speaker 9 (07:52):
It's just just online flots online Pokey's and it's flat
after flat after flat after flat down there.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Is it going on their student loan? Can they do that?
Speaker 9 (08:01):
You'd assume? So like one lad's down nine grand, the
other one's down five, and they're round sort of. And
then and then they can go on line and ban
themselves from these websites so that they gamble on. So
you know a handful of them have now gone on
and done that. But you know that's crippling at eighteen nineteen,
and it's Ben and talking a little bit to them
about it. It's done out of a place of boredom.
(08:22):
They're sort of sitting around, not much to do, like
we might have sat around and played cards. They just
it's someone's turn that night to be the person that's
going to spin their account, and they all sit around
and live the ups and downs for that guy for
the night he loses. Next night someone else loads their account.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
What a bizarre story, rece that's too scary. What are
they studying for? I just want to know that.
Speaker 9 (08:44):
Oh no, Look, it's a wide range of stuff down there,
done in christ heurge, and it's a wide cross section.
This squad maybe fifteen lads that I'm aware of. But
then they've all got stories about other flats doing the
same thing. It's almost like a bit of an investigative
journalism opportunity down it's having with online gambling in student
flat that.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Is terrifying, terrifying, Reese, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It is again, most stuff that goes on and student.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
Flats are terrifying.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Just you know, the piles of dishes.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I sent one of my kids off to their student
flat with their own coffee machine.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
There was an old coppee machine that we didn't use anymore,
and the state of it as we moved out of
that student flat. Talk about Yeah, biological experiments, news talk.
Has it been right? Let's finish up here.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Wondering about the Commonwealth Games is you know? I think
we all often do you know what's the point of them?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
No? No, no, where we're going to have them?
Speaker 10 (09:44):
Calm games in Christ You're not going ahead with them anymore.
They did a report and the report told them the
blondingly obvious. It was a daft idea from the beginning.
But why have the report? I think kind of the
same it was, didn't hurt. We've got more information now
we know well, I think we're pretty obvious to know beforehand.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Jeep has crazy.
Speaker 10 (10:10):
If Victoria don't want it, dub but don't want it,
you don't want it, it's a dud.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
So that pretty much leaves space and move them to space.
You should break a lot of records if you head
them in space, which is you know, I jump and
stuff like that. Yeah, if nobody wants them, let's just
not help them. This is a distance I am a
(10:37):
green hat. There's been newstalks it'd been. We'll be back
here breaking more records for you again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yearsly news Talkers talks it been for more from news
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