September 30, 2024 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) You Know, Like Hospitals/Second Thoughts On Driving Fast/The Last Day of Term/Daylight Saving Freakout
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am blen Hart and we
are looking back at Monday. Are the speed lim it's
going up or not? What's happening here? Why is this
is another one of these things where they promised fast
tracking and kicking ass and it's just come back to
bite them in the ass. As that's what it's weird
(00:46):
feeling about this at school holidays and once again the
debate over whether it's all right to take kids out
of school a little bit early or letting go back
a little bit late so you can avoid the rush.
Oh in daylight saving happened as it does twice a year,
(01:07):
but before any of that hospital. Yeah, we've had to
scale there back. You can't have your flash hospital. We
can't afford it.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
And of course it isn't just Dunedin's residence, right, it
is all of those regional communities that were supposed to
be served by the new hospital, who feel lied to,
who feel misled and If the fury of those crowds
is anything to go by, this is only the start
of what's going to be ongoing, very very public, prominent
(01:38):
protest action. As for the hospital itself, is anyone surprised
that the cost of this thing has spiraled once again?
I'm not even outside of pandemic era supply chain issues.
New Zealand has a consistent habit of blowouts in the
cost of infrastructure development. And look, no one's disputing that
these are tricky economic times. But every time the government
(02:02):
makes one of these high profile cost saving Captain's calls,
the communities on the receiving end will prickle. The Health
and Infrastructure ministers warn that the cost of the need
and hospital could blow out to three billion dollars if
they continue with the original design. But that is awfully
close to the revenue cost of the landlord tax changes,
(02:24):
which the government prioritized when it took office. Governing's about choices.
Governing is about choices, and in the eyes of those
in the Lower South, this choice will not be forgotten
or forgiven any time soon.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
We had quite the interesting discussion emerge in the Breakfast
Show yesterday, pointing out that the government's happy to give
out tax cats, but we've got to scale back how
much for spending on a hospital. I mean, whether or
not it's more expensive than they said it was going
to be. It's a bit of a shame News talk
(03:05):
z been anyway, Jack who has noticed this is going on?
Ryan did as well. I mean it's in the news.
As our host, we're noticing that it was going on.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Problem.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
The reason the government should heed and listen is because
of the size of the protest. Thirty five thousand is
the biggest in decades. But it wasn't just your usual
mob of rent a crowd and serial protests. It was
normal people. Normal people now Dneda normally doesn't vote read
So do you bother listening if you're the government. Well,
the problem is it's not just Duned and it's everywhere.
(03:39):
Give me a region and I'll give you a grievance.
Central North Island plant closures, Marlborough, fairy cancelation, Tatadua. The
tolling of the MNU were two Gorge the West Coast
health cuts. Now, I think the government will compromise on Dunedin,
but for most of the rest of the regions. Waving
placards and marching. The message will be simple, blame labor.
(04:02):
They spent with gayer band and during and after COVID
inflation ran rampant, and now we're having to come in
and clean it up. This is what they'll say. That's
why we need toll roads to get these things finished.
That's why we need to downsize massive new hospitals. It's
why we have to cut that bridge or that school
or this funding. The question for the government is are
(04:23):
these people going to turn around and vote labor and
anger And the answer is probably not, especially not if
they're swing voters. People understand generally why we are in
this mess, and most are just trying to sway the
current government, not change it completely.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, I think, I mean the honeymoon's over, insons well
and truly over. Are we a year? And yet I
feel like we're nearly a year in pretty much a
year in that there's a long animoon.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Really ques talk sit.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So actually speaking of the government trying to get a
little bit of push back about things that we all
wanted to drive faster. We're all happy with that, and
then some people have suddenly gone.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
You hang on on paper, sounds like a great idea
but the reality is people are idiots. You're an idiot,
I'm an idiot. And we all think the fast way
is the only way, don't we. And even if cars
and trucks did have the same speed limit drivers, that's
still gun it well into the hundreds. If they knew
the limit was nighty, that's still gunnet. Can you imagine,
(05:33):
by the way, just imagine this at the peak of
summer people, imagine people being content to sit behind a
truck all the way. Of course they wouldn't because it's
all about getting there as soon as your care and
a That's what it's all about. There's none of this
life's about the journey talk once we get behind the wheel.
So Simon Brown's not going to be liking what the
professor is saying today about having the same ninety k
(05:56):
speed limit for every vehicle on the road. Oh, it's
a great idea, but i'm you on paper, I'm picking.
He's also not going to be liking everything the trucking
industry is saying today either, because remember how he's been
banging on about how inc using speed limits is going
to get us all going faster, It's going to increase productivity, blah,
blah blah blah blah, but when it comes to productivity,
that's not going to be the case at all. Yeah,
(06:16):
will be going faster, but nothing will change when it
comes to productivity, because, as the head of Transporting New
Zealand has confirmed, this is the outfit representing the truck
hees the transport sector. It's confirmed that the speed limit
increases will have no direct impact on them because trucks
will still be restricted to in ninety dom Calisia is
(06:37):
his name, and he's saying that this increasing productivity cell
job is nonsense. But where he does see benefits and
cars being allowed to go faster, as he says, drivers
will be able to pass trucks more quickly, which he
reckons will reduce the amount of time drivers spend in
risky situations. He does concede, though, that if the cars
(06:59):
are going faster to get past the trucks, than any
supposed reduction and risk could be outweighed. I'd say definitely
be outweighted by the fact the drivers are going at
high speeds, which of course increases the chance or something
going wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
It's hard to argue, isn't it. He's gone there, We
are all idiots he scoots got there right, I know,
I am. It's one of the only things I know
for sure. Okay, So school holiday time and despite it's
David Seymour, isn't he's he's the truant officer these days,
(07:36):
spite has been cracked down. It was like some people
still are happy to take their kids out of school
just to get a cheap flight.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Charlene, Hi, hey, I was just.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Ranging to say what my kids did on the last
day of the term. That's just gone yep, and a
real fun day. They just watched movies and play games
all day. So I think, you know, in context of
how much learning is actually done on those last few
days of the term, it's kind of a wrap up time.
(08:07):
And I don't think much of you. But the real
savings are probably a week or two before the School
Holidays stat because Australia School Holiday stat which will out
and it's going to kind of hype up around there.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Does it annoy you that the flights are so expensive,
because I guess the airlines will be like, what's just
supplying demand. There are a lot more people wanting, you know,
even though they put on more flights. But I just
sort of feel that families get absolutely screwed by every
business that can screw them.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Well, actually my son lives in Australia with his dad
and so he flights over every school holiday. So this
is a considenttious thing that I have to bear as
the high places on school holidays.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
You see, it's just bad parenting right there. You should
be saying, yeah, sorry, too expensive, we won't be seeing
you again until you're about twenty five. What I'd be
doing it is that's always been the case though, that
whole shale, or to them at school, I remember, you know,
(09:11):
we used to have to put the chairs up on
the desks and clean the everywhere, and then you'd just
be sitting around and on the mat because your chairs
are up on the desks, sometimes for two days. It
seems like that's how I remember it, a very long
time ago. Of course, things were in black and white
begg in those days.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
News talk it bean.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I don't remember having daylight savings back then either. I
think that's quite a new thing, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
So as the last that September, funny, the weather has
become good down south, gorgeous day gorgeous down of course
up so early because you don't know what time it is.
I'm still converting fro about a week I convert to
the old time to work out what's supposed to be happening.
How am I supposed to feel? Do I feel more
awake or less awake? What time? I love daylight saving?
(10:01):
I love what it does to your head. It's just
an hour, but man, did it do tricks with your head? Sheepers.
I don't know how long New Zealand's had daylight savings for,
but it feels like it feels like I don't know,
it feels like some of us never really have got
(10:23):
quite used to it. Anyway, Bearing in mind, I still
haven't got around to change in the car. That's forty
eight hours. It's paf well, thirty six hours. It's parf
the course for me, be a week or two before
I change the clock in the car. I like having
the old time. Yeah it's weird. Oh go chah, that's
(10:44):
the old time, I'll say to myself. But bearing in mind,
be careful on the roads, and be careful in general.
The ten days the week after daylight saving. There are
more excellents in New Zealand or anywhere, and that's because
even though it seems like just an hour. It freaks
(11:04):
people out.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Does it. I think most people these days, they just
get their time off their phone or their computer or
their smart speaker or whatever, and they all change automatically
and they and a lot of them probably don't even
notice that anything's happened. And also I was I went
(11:29):
around to Mum's house on Sunday, and I was expecting
to have to change all the flocks for her, but
she'd done them all herself, which I thought wasn't bad
for somebody of her seniority. Although I will have to
admit I did have to do her car one for her.
She's forgotten how to do that. And that is because
it's different. It has to be a different system on
every car, isn't it. Some cars make it easy. Mine's
(11:52):
pretty easy. It's literally just a button, you know, you
look across, you put it in set mode and you
just look across to her. And and this time of
year is that easy one? Going forward in hour is
always an easy one. You don't want to accidentally push
that button twice stone then you've got to go another
(12:13):
world or what you let you know that one even
But but yeah, they need to standardize car clocks. Oh man,
ye know, for mom's sake, and Marcus are safe, then
we can't have them driving around an hour behind everybody
(12:34):
else for an hour ahead. That's the other thing. You
can't remembers it canon. I am gleen hat. Maybe Marcus
is right. Actually, maybe we do freak out, and I'm
going to have to resile from my previous comments. I'm
a glean Hart, grand resiler of news Talks. He'd been
and I'll be back here with more resiliation tomorrow. Is
(12:56):
that the is that the noun probably isn't see you there?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
News Talk been. For more from news Talk said, be
listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said, be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you Talk said, I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am blen Hart and we
are looking back at Monday. Are the speed lim it's
going up or not? What's happening here? Why is this
is another one of these things where they promised fast
tracking and kicking ass and it's just come back to
bite them in the ass. As that's what it's weird
(00:46):
feeling about this at school holidays and once again the
debate over whether it's all right to take kids out
of school a little bit early or letting go back
a little bit late so you can avoid the rush.
Oh in daylight saving happened as it does twice a year,
(01:07):
but before any of that hospital. Yeah, we've had to
scale there back. You can't have your flash hospital. We
can't afford it.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
And of course it isn't just Dunedin's residence, right, it
is all of those regional communities that were supposed to
be served by the new hospital, who feel lied to,
who feel misled and If the fury of those crowds
is anything to go by, this is only the start
of what's going to be ongoing, very very public, prominent
(01:38):
protest action. As for the hospital itself, is anyone surprised
that the cost of this thing has spiraled once again?
I'm not even outside of pandemic era supply chain issues.
New Zealand has a consistent habit of blowouts in the
cost of infrastructure development. And look, no one's disputing that
these are tricky economic times. But every time the government
(02:02):
makes one of these high profile cost saving Captain's calls,
the communities on the receiving end will prickle. The Health
and Infrastructure ministers warn that the cost of the need
and hospital could blow out to three billion dollars if
they continue with the original design. But that is awfully
close to the revenue cost of the landlord tax changes,
(02:24):
which the government prioritized when it took office. Governing's about choices.
Governing is about choices, and in the eyes of those
in the Lower South, this choice will not be forgotten
or forgiven any time soon.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
We had quite the interesting discussion emerge in the Breakfast
Show yesterday, pointing out that the government's happy to give
out tax cats, but we've got to scale back how
much for spending on a hospital. I mean, whether or
not it's more expensive than they said it was going
to be. It's a bit of a shame News talk
(03:05):
z been anyway, Jack who has noticed this is going on?
Ryan did as well. I mean it's in the news.
As our host, we're noticing that it was going on.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Problem.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
The reason the government should heed and listen is because
of the size of the protest. Thirty five thousand is
the biggest in decades. But it wasn't just your usual
mob of rent a crowd and serial protests. It was
normal people. Normal people now Dneda normally doesn't vote read
So do you bother listening if you're the government. Well,
the problem is it's not just Duned and it's everywhere.
(03:39):
Give me a region and I'll give you a grievance.
Central North Island plant closures, Marlborough, fairy cancelation, Tatadua. The
tolling of the MNU were two Gorge the West Coast
health cuts. Now, I think the government will compromise on Dunedin,
but for most of the rest of the regions. Waving
placards and marching. The message will be simple, blame labor.
(04:02):
They spent with gayer band and during and after COVID
inflation ran rampant, and now we're having to come in
and clean it up. This is what they'll say. That's
why we need toll roads to get these things finished.
That's why we need to downsize massive new hospitals. It's
why we have to cut that bridge or that school
or this funding. The question for the government is are
(04:23):
these people going to turn around and vote labor and
anger And the answer is probably not, especially not if
they're swing voters. People understand generally why we are in
this mess, and most are just trying to sway the
current government, not change it completely.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, I think, I mean the honeymoon's over, insons well
and truly over. Are we a year? And yet I
feel like we're nearly a year in pretty much a
year in that there's a long animoon.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Really ques talk sit.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So actually speaking of the government trying to get a
little bit of push back about things that we all
wanted to drive faster. We're all happy with that, and
then some people have suddenly gone.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
You hang on on paper, sounds like a great idea
but the reality is people are idiots. You're an idiot,
I'm an idiot. And we all think the fast way
is the only way, don't we. And even if cars
and trucks did have the same speed limit drivers, that's
still gun it well into the hundreds. If they knew
the limit was nighty, that's still gunnet. Can you imagine,
(05:33):
by the way, just imagine this at the peak of
summer people, imagine people being content to sit behind a
truck all the way. Of course they wouldn't because it's
all about getting there as soon as your care and
a That's what it's all about. There's none of this
life's about the journey talk once we get behind the wheel.
So Simon Brown's not going to be liking what the
professor is saying today about having the same ninety k
(05:56):
speed limit for every vehicle on the road. Oh, it's
a great idea, but i'm you on paper, I'm picking.
He's also not going to be liking everything the trucking
industry is saying today either, because remember how he's been
banging on about how inc using speed limits is going
to get us all going faster, It's going to increase productivity, blah,
blah blah blah blah, but when it comes to productivity,
that's not going to be the case at all. Yeah,
(06:16):
will be going faster, but nothing will change when it
comes to productivity, because, as the head of Transporting New
Zealand has confirmed, this is the outfit representing the truck
hees the transport sector. It's confirmed that the speed limit
increases will have no direct impact on them because trucks
will still be restricted to in ninety dom Calisia is
(06:37):
his name, and he's saying that this increasing productivity cell
job is nonsense. But where he does see benefits and
cars being allowed to go faster, as he says, drivers
will be able to pass trucks more quickly, which he
reckons will reduce the amount of time drivers spend in
risky situations. He does concede, though, that if the cars
(06:59):
are going faster to get past the trucks, than any
supposed reduction and risk could be outweighed. I'd say definitely
be outweighted by the fact the drivers are going at
high speeds, which of course increases the chance or something
going wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
It's hard to argue, isn't it. He's gone there, We
are all idiots he scoots got there right, I know,
I am. It's one of the only things I know
for sure. Okay, So school holiday time and despite it's
David Seymour, isn't he's he's the truant officer these days,
(07:36):
spite has been cracked down. It was like some people
still are happy to take their kids out of school
just to get a cheap flight.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Charlene, Hi, hey, I was just.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Ranging to say what my kids did on the last
day of the term. That's just gone yep, and a
real fun day. They just watched movies and play games
all day. So I think, you know, in context of
how much learning is actually done on those last few
days of the term, it's kind of a wrap up time.
(08:07):
And I don't think much of you. But the real
savings are probably a week or two before the School
Holidays stat because Australia School Holiday stat which will out
and it's going to kind of hype up around there.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Does it annoy you that the flights are so expensive,
because I guess the airlines will be like, what's just
supplying demand. There are a lot more people wanting, you know,
even though they put on more flights. But I just
sort of feel that families get absolutely screwed by every
business that can screw them.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Well, actually my son lives in Australia with his dad
and so he flights over every school holiday. So this
is a considenttious thing that I have to bear as
the high places on school holidays.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
You see, it's just bad parenting right there. You should
be saying, yeah, sorry, too expensive, we won't be seeing
you again until you're about twenty five. What I'd be
doing it is that's always been the case though, that
whole shale, or to them at school, I remember, you know,
(09:11):
we used to have to put the chairs up on
the desks and clean the everywhere, and then you'd just
be sitting around and on the mat because your chairs
are up on the desks, sometimes for two days. It
seems like that's how I remember it, a very long
time ago. Of course, things were in black and white
begg in those days.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
News talk it bean.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I don't remember having daylight savings back then either. I
think that's quite a new thing, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
So as the last that September, funny, the weather has
become good down south, gorgeous day gorgeous down of course
up so early because you don't know what time it is.
I'm still converting fro about a week I convert to
the old time to work out what's supposed to be happening.
How am I supposed to feel? Do I feel more
awake or less awake? What time? I love daylight saving?
(10:01):
I love what it does to your head. It's just
an hour, but man, did it do tricks with your head? Sheepers.
I don't know how long New Zealand's had daylight savings for,
but it feels like it feels like I don't know,
it feels like some of us never really have got
(10:23):
quite used to it. Anyway, Bearing in mind, I still
haven't got around to change in the car. That's forty
eight hours. It's paf well, thirty six hours. It's parf
the course for me, be a week or two before
I change the clock in the car. I like having
the old time. Yeah it's weird. Oh go chah, that's
(10:44):
the old time, I'll say to myself. But bearing in mind,
be careful on the roads, and be careful in general.
The ten days the week after daylight saving. There are
more excellents in New Zealand or anywhere, and that's because
even though it seems like just an hour. It freaks
(11:04):
people out.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Does it. I think most people these days, they just
get their time off their phone or their computer or
their smart speaker or whatever, and they all change automatically
and they and a lot of them probably don't even
notice that anything's happened. And also I was I went
(11:29):
around to Mum's house on Sunday, and I was expecting
to have to change all the flocks for her, but
she'd done them all herself, which I thought wasn't bad
for somebody of her seniority. Although I will have to
admit I did have to do her car one for her.
She's forgotten how to do that. And that is because
it's different. It has to be a different system on
every car, isn't it. Some cars make it easy. Mine's
(11:52):
pretty easy. It's literally just a button, you know, you
look across, you put it in set mode and you
just look across to her. And and this time of
year is that easy one? Going forward in hour is
always an easy one. You don't want to accidentally push
that button twice stone then you've got to go another
(12:13):
world or what you let you know that one even
But but yeah, they need to standardize car clocks. Oh man,
ye know, for mom's sake, and Marcus are safe, then
we can't have them driving around an hour behind everybody
(12:34):
else for an hour ahead. That's the other thing. You
can't remembers it canon. I am gleen hat. Maybe Marcus
is right. Actually, maybe we do freak out, and I'm
going to have to resile from my previous comments. I'm
a glean Hart, grand resiler of news Talks. He'd been
and I'll be back here with more resiliation tomorrow. Is
(12:56):
that the is that the noun probably isn't see you there?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
News Talk been. For more from news Talk said, be
listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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