October 2, 2024 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) Not Quite Yet/Education Not Entirely Sorted Either/Please Don't Say C, G or T/Trying Not to Lose/Let Christmas Begin
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday,
first of years Today's News. I'm Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday. We're just going to check
in on a few things to see if they've been
solved in this podcast today. So like the education system
and NCA and all that. I'm sure that's we've presented,
been talking about this for a long time now, so
I'm sure they've got that under control. We're going to
(00:45):
advance the CGT conversation, which everybody seems to love talking
about so much because it's so damn and interesting because
what happens if you try and sell your business? Is
it going to be a CGT with that? The vice
presidential debate happened? You said, well, neither of them are
vice presidents yet, but they hope to be. And what
(01:06):
has allworth done wrong? Now we'll get to the bottom
of us with Marcus when it was called as at
the end of the podcast. But first up, yeah, speaking
of things that were checking in to see if they fix.
How's a small town crime going?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
A couple of Fridays ago, midday, twelve thirty, I hear
the dairy owner screaming for their life that you know,
your instant reaction is to run down there and see
what technique. I didn't know that it was a robbery.
I thought one of the kids from the school had
been hit by a car or something like that. I
ran straight into a daylight robbery. Being first on the scene.
(01:42):
That was terrifying.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Was it actually happening? Was it in process?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
So it was in process? Yere. So they were running
out with the till. There were three offenders. They were
running out with the till, cigarette and cash. The person
behind me managed to rip the till from them, and
that was a member of the public. Other members of
the public all parked their cars in so they couldn't
(02:09):
get out. Wow, yeah, it was full on. It was
really scary. And two weeks on, everyone's still, you know,
up and up and arms about it because it's just
so terrifying.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Did they actually get away? If the public responded and
sort of surrounded them a bit, did they actually get away?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yet?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
They managed to work a way around the car that
had blocked them off, but they then had an accident
up the road.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So yeah, exciting, exciting stuff out of East Auckland there,
I mean exciting in a bad way. You do get
the impresions sometimes that these idiots, these thugs think that
they're living in a movie, an action show. And then
of course, you know, but things like car chases they
(02:56):
don't usually ing well because guess what, you can't just
drive through busy intersections and magically not get hit and
stuff like that. Yes, so anyway, sounds like we haven't
sold crime. By the way, news talk has been that
have we sold education. I think we've got this the
(03:17):
pp PA the moment, what is it when confused? All
these letters anyway, the teachers are saying that some of
these changes that are going on and on, or are
they saying that some of them are okay, It's all
a bit confusing.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
The proposed curriculum that was being laid out, especially under
Chris Hipkins and then when he was as Minister of
Education and then when he was Prime Minister.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Were.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Extraordinary and there simply wasn't any underpinning to them to
allow the teachers to teach. So they were given these
ideological concepts and very much left to their own devices
to come up with their own kind of underpinning to
teach it. Very few resources. I'll find your own. It's
(04:07):
within your own community, which some teachers could do better
than others. And then now it's all changed again. If
the teachers are confused, I'm not at all surprised. I
don't know how you make this better. And ultimately you know,
(04:28):
and I know that it's the kids who are suffering
because it's you and I who are paying for the
extra classes after school, paying through the nose, finding money
you don't have to shore up gaps and the knowledge
because it's not the teachers. The idea logues are the
(04:52):
ones responsible for the mess that education is in.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Anybody say good things about ideal logs, do you? I
think we should not have them. Whereas an ideologue, this
is what he believes, is something different from the things
that you believe in. No, No, that can't be right.
You talk right, so, oh my god, please, I'm still
(05:21):
talking about CGT. We can't be can we? Somehow? Is
there an implication that the Prime Minister changed the rules
just so he could sell his house and not get texts?
Surely that seems too crazy. And now Ryan suggesting that
(05:44):
businesses should or shouldn't be playing CGT. I'm so sick
of hearing the letters CGT.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
Now, let's really talk about a capital gains tax, because
we essentially have one on investment property. It's the bright
line test. You can argue over how long that should be,
and governments have changed this from red to blue, you know,
ten to two years. So let's sideline property for just
a second and talk about businesses. Do you really think
it's fair to tax the gain on sale of a business?
(06:15):
Business owners take huge risk. They work incredibly hard, and
I'm not saying we don't, but they do work incredibly hard.
There's the stress, the late nights, the untold hours, have
lost sleep. They employ people, they pay them, they pay
tax on their earnings as they go, They help support jobs,
they grow the economy. They provide that tax base that
we so desperately need for hospitals and education, etc. And
(06:39):
then when they finally are either burnt out or wanting
to move on and grow something else, Bang, we hit
them with a tax on the sale of their business.
That doesn't seem fair to me. We need people to
invest confidently into their businesses. And grow them for the
benefit of all of us. I don't think a capital
(06:59):
gains tax on businesses will achieve that.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I mean, one of the reason I hate talking about
this stuff is because it just makes my head and
round and around. It's so complicated, and it's like when people
keep suggesting that you mess around you don't only have
GST on some things and not other things. And it's like,
please don't make a complicated system. We've more complicated. My
(07:27):
brain will literally just liquefy and pour out of my
ears if we do that. Nice metal limits, isn't it right? Yeah,
speaking of people, people's brains looklifying and pouring out of
thereas se. The BP candidates debated yesterday.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, seriously, you know, for the most part, I don't reckon.
Tim Walltz was terrible. You know. He made a bit
of a weird gaff where it sounded as though he
kind of said something about becoming friends with school shooters,
like he obviously just got his words confused, but that
was a bit weird. And then there was some stuff
around some comments he'd made suggesting he'd been living in
(08:06):
Hong Kong at the same time as Teneman Square. That
turned out not to be true, and I just didn't
think he looked as fresh. He certainly wasn't as self assured,
and he certainly wasn't as slick as JD.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Vance.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
His best moment was directly turning to Vance and asking
if Vance believed Donald Trump won the twenty twenty election,
and of course Jadie Vance immediately did that classic politician
answer and said, you know, I'm focused on the future,
So what does it mean for the race? Are not heaps?
I think there was probably more to lose tonight for
the respective campaigns than there was to win. You know,
(08:41):
it might translate to a we we bump in support,
maybe a few more voters suring up their decisions. But
more than anything, I reckon for Team Trump, it is
probably the first bit of momentum in the right direction
that that campaign has enjoyed for the best part of
six weeks.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It's so odd, is it that we get that this
whole campaign, even back before they got rid of Biden
and brought Harrison, it's been all about not doing anything
to lose support rather than doing things to gain support.
Do you notice that, whether it's Trump, whether it's Biden,
(09:23):
whether it's Harris, whether it's vance whether it's Waltz. You know,
it's like everybody's too afraid to actually go out there
and say things in case it be taken the wrong
way and they get slammed down. Certainly ideal situation in
a thriving democracy.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Isn't news talk?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Has it been?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Of course? The true democracy is te bet radio. And
if you thought that foodstuffs and their problems with the
Commerce Commission was big news, wait, do you hear what
happened with this guy when he went to woo Worth?
Speaker 5 (10:04):
He went to wo Worst today to get out Christmas lexus.
My wife makes thirty or forty Christmas cakes every years
and they're behind the eight ball. There's none, No, don't
mix fruit or anything.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
Oh, that's that's a dereliction of duty. Who did you
say that was worth? Willworth?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Woolworth?
Speaker 8 (10:24):
Yep, sheepers, creepers that you should doll one one one
for that move?
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Well, because I reckon even when they do get it,
and it's going to be three or four dollars dearer
than everywhere else. Yeah, because we got our dog has
Jimbos medallions for the what was it, the salmon medallions?
They were ten dollars last week. This week they've them
thirty nine dollars for jimbos. Yeah, that's the frozen one.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
Hey tell me with how many? How many cakes did
your mother make?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Does you?
Speaker 8 (10:55):
Does your partner?
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Thirty to forty? My wife? Yea, she makes thirty to
forty cakes every year. So how much family and friends?
Speaker 8 (11:03):
How much fruit makes? Would you need for that?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I don't know. She's not here at the moment. That's
why I'm ringing?
Speaker 8 (11:10):
Okay, but she said you you must have had in
order how much to buy? Did you find some anyway?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Move? No, we'll have to go and go elsewhere. I
think though it could be at Pack and Save. I
think we saw some there the other day. So we'll
start buying them now. Because she makes them. You have
them all done and break all the fruit's done and
brandy And when the cake comes out of the oven,
there's a cup of brandy port over the top and
(11:37):
they laugh for a whole year.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It does sound like a logistical exercise, isn't it? Because
he doesn't know exactly how much they need, so he
obviously is sent out on a like a reconnaissance mission
to see who has it, who doesn't and that's they'll
need a lot of brandy. But this sounds like there's
a lot of brandy involved, a sort of more brandy
(12:01):
cakes than Christmas cakes. Good though, and they last all year.
I guess if you make thirty or forties, how many
I wonder how many they do kick for themselves. My
stepmother in law makes a very good Christmas pack, but
she's quite protective of it. She doesn't make thirty or forty.
(12:24):
She only seems to make one or two, and then
if you're lucky, you'll get a piece if you go
and stay there. But she's certainly not giving anybody a
whole cake to have for the rest of the Year's
supposed to have little pieces of Christmas gag, aren't you
know those really square pieces you can't have like like
(12:46):
some cakes. You know you have a week of cake.
You don't get that with Christmas pack for the year.
Any phenomenon. Is it a worldwide thing or is it
just in New Zealanders?
Speaker 5 (12:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Anyway, Come on, it's only the third of October, nerve
get the supermarket to break. Do you really need to
be making the Christmas cakes yet? Get your Halloween cakes
out of the way first, then we'll talk Christmas k
I am Glen Heart. That has been used to it
zid bean. It's not rushed for year away. We've still
(13:19):
got basically a quarter of it to go, so back,
enjoy it. We'll see you back here again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
News Talking Talking zid Bean. For more from News Talk
said b listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk SEDB You Talk said Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday,
first of years Today's News. I'm Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday. We're just going to check
in on a few things to see if they've been
solved in this podcast today. So like the education system
and NCA and all that. I'm sure that's we've presented,
been talking about this for a long time now, so
I'm sure they've got that under control. We're going to
(00:45):
advance the CGT conversation, which everybody seems to love talking
about so much because it's so damn and interesting because
what happens if you try and sell your business? Is
it going to be a CGT with that? The vice
presidential debate happened? You said, well, neither of them are
vice presidents yet, but they hope to be. And what
(01:06):
has allworth done wrong? Now we'll get to the bottom
of us with Marcus when it was called as at
the end of the podcast. But first up, yeah, speaking
of things that were checking in to see if they fix.
How's a small town crime going?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
A couple of Fridays ago, midday, twelve thirty, I hear
the dairy owner screaming for their life that you know,
your instant reaction is to run down there and see
what technique. I didn't know that it was a robbery.
I thought one of the kids from the school had
been hit by a car or something like that. I
ran straight into a daylight robbery. Being first on the scene.
(01:42):
That was terrifying.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Was it actually happening? Was it in process?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
So it was in process? Yere. So they were running
out with the till. There were three offenders. They were
running out with the till, cigarette and cash. The person
behind me managed to rip the till from them, and
that was a member of the public. Other members of
the public all parked their cars in so they couldn't
(02:09):
get out. Wow, yeah, it was full on. It was
really scary. And two weeks on, everyone's still, you know,
up and up and arms about it because it's just
so terrifying.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Did they actually get away? If the public responded and
sort of surrounded them a bit, did they actually get away?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yet?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
They managed to work a way around the car that
had blocked them off, but they then had an accident
up the road.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So yeah, exciting, exciting stuff out of East Auckland there,
I mean exciting in a bad way. You do get
the impresions sometimes that these idiots, these thugs think that
they're living in a movie, an action show. And then
of course, you know, but things like car chases they
(02:56):
don't usually ing well because guess what, you can't just
drive through busy intersections and magically not get hit and
stuff like that. Yes, so anyway, sounds like we haven't
sold crime. By the way, news talk has been that
have we sold education. I think we've got this the
(03:17):
pp PA the moment, what is it when confused? All
these letters anyway, the teachers are saying that some of
these changes that are going on and on, or are
they saying that some of them are okay, It's all
a bit confusing.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
The proposed curriculum that was being laid out, especially under
Chris Hipkins and then when he was as Minister of
Education and then when he was Prime Minister.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Were.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Extraordinary and there simply wasn't any underpinning to them to
allow the teachers to teach. So they were given these
ideological concepts and very much left to their own devices
to come up with their own kind of underpinning to
teach it. Very few resources. I'll find your own. It's
(04:07):
within your own community, which some teachers could do better
than others. And then now it's all changed again. If
the teachers are confused, I'm not at all surprised. I
don't know how you make this better. And ultimately you know,
(04:28):
and I know that it's the kids who are suffering
because it's you and I who are paying for the
extra classes after school, paying through the nose, finding money
you don't have to shore up gaps and the knowledge
because it's not the teachers. The idea logues are the
(04:52):
ones responsible for the mess that education is in.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Anybody say good things about ideal logs, do you? I
think we should not have them. Whereas an ideologue, this
is what he believes, is something different from the things
that you believe in. No, No, that can't be right.
You talk right, so, oh my god, please, I'm still
(05:21):
talking about CGT. We can't be can we? Somehow? Is
there an implication that the Prime Minister changed the rules
just so he could sell his house and not get texts?
Surely that seems too crazy. And now Ryan suggesting that
(05:44):
businesses should or shouldn't be playing CGT. I'm so sick
of hearing the letters CGT.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
Now, let's really talk about a capital gains tax, because
we essentially have one on investment property. It's the bright
line test. You can argue over how long that should be,
and governments have changed this from red to blue, you know,
ten to two years. So let's sideline property for just
a second and talk about businesses. Do you really think
it's fair to tax the gain on sale of a business?
(06:15):
Business owners take huge risk. They work incredibly hard, and
I'm not saying we don't, but they do work incredibly hard.
There's the stress, the late nights, the untold hours, have
lost sleep. They employ people, they pay them, they pay
tax on their earnings as they go, They help support jobs,
they grow the economy. They provide that tax base that
we so desperately need for hospitals and education, etc. And
(06:39):
then when they finally are either burnt out or wanting
to move on and grow something else, Bang, we hit
them with a tax on the sale of their business.
That doesn't seem fair to me. We need people to
invest confidently into their businesses. And grow them for the
benefit of all of us. I don't think a capital
(06:59):
gains tax on businesses will achieve that.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I mean, one of the reason I hate talking about
this stuff is because it just makes my head and
round and around. It's so complicated, and it's like when people
keep suggesting that you mess around you don't only have
GST on some things and not other things. And it's like,
please don't make a complicated system. We've more complicated. My
(07:27):
brain will literally just liquefy and pour out of my
ears if we do that. Nice metal limits, isn't it right? Yeah,
speaking of people, people's brains looklifying and pouring out of
thereas se. The BP candidates debated yesterday.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, seriously, you know, for the most part, I don't reckon.
Tim Walltz was terrible. You know. He made a bit
of a weird gaff where it sounded as though he
kind of said something about becoming friends with school shooters,
like he obviously just got his words confused, but that
was a bit weird. And then there was some stuff
around some comments he'd made suggesting he'd been living in
(08:06):
Hong Kong at the same time as Teneman Square. That
turned out not to be true, and I just didn't
think he looked as fresh. He certainly wasn't as self assured,
and he certainly wasn't as slick as JD.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Vance.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
His best moment was directly turning to Vance and asking
if Vance believed Donald Trump won the twenty twenty election,
and of course Jadie Vance immediately did that classic politician
answer and said, you know, I'm focused on the future,
So what does it mean for the race? Are not heaps?
I think there was probably more to lose tonight for
the respective campaigns than there was to win. You know,
(08:41):
it might translate to a we we bump in support,
maybe a few more voters suring up their decisions. But
more than anything, I reckon for Team Trump, it is
probably the first bit of momentum in the right direction
that that campaign has enjoyed for the best part of
six weeks.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It's so odd, is it that we get that this
whole campaign, even back before they got rid of Biden
and brought Harrison, it's been all about not doing anything
to lose support rather than doing things to gain support.
Do you notice that, whether it's Trump, whether it's Biden,
(09:23):
whether it's Harris, whether it's vance whether it's Waltz. You know,
it's like everybody's too afraid to actually go out there
and say things in case it be taken the wrong
way and they get slammed down. Certainly ideal situation in
a thriving democracy.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Isn't news talk?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Has it been?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Of course? The true democracy is te bet radio. And
if you thought that foodstuffs and their problems with the
Commerce Commission was big news, wait, do you hear what
happened with this guy when he went to woo Worth?
Speaker 5 (10:04):
He went to wo Worst today to get out Christmas lexus.
My wife makes thirty or forty Christmas cakes every years
and they're behind the eight ball. There's none, No, don't
mix fruit or anything.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
Oh, that's that's a dereliction of duty. Who did you
say that was worth? Willworth?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Woolworth?
Speaker 8 (10:24):
Yep, sheepers, creepers that you should doll one one one
for that move?
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Well, because I reckon even when they do get it,
and it's going to be three or four dollars dearer
than everywhere else. Yeah, because we got our dog has
Jimbos medallions for the what was it, the salmon medallions?
They were ten dollars last week. This week they've them
thirty nine dollars for jimbos. Yeah, that's the frozen one.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
Hey tell me with how many? How many cakes did
your mother make?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Does you?
Speaker 8 (10:55):
Does your partner?
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Thirty to forty? My wife? Yea, she makes thirty to
forty cakes every year. So how much family and friends?
Speaker 8 (11:03):
How much fruit makes? Would you need for that?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I don't know. She's not here at the moment. That's
why I'm ringing?
Speaker 8 (11:10):
Okay, but she said you you must have had in
order how much to buy? Did you find some anyway?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Move? No, we'll have to go and go elsewhere. I
think though it could be at Pack and Save. I
think we saw some there the other day. So we'll
start buying them now. Because she makes them. You have
them all done and break all the fruit's done and
brandy And when the cake comes out of the oven,
there's a cup of brandy port over the top and
(11:37):
they laugh for a whole year.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It does sound like a logistical exercise, isn't it? Because
he doesn't know exactly how much they need, so he
obviously is sent out on a like a reconnaissance mission
to see who has it, who doesn't and that's they'll
need a lot of brandy. But this sounds like there's
a lot of brandy involved, a sort of more brandy
(12:01):
cakes than Christmas cakes. Good though, and they last all year.
I guess if you make thirty or forties, how many
I wonder how many they do kick for themselves. My
stepmother in law makes a very good Christmas pack, but
she's quite protective of it. She doesn't make thirty or forty.
(12:24):
She only seems to make one or two, and then
if you're lucky, you'll get a piece if you go
and stay there. But she's certainly not giving anybody a
whole cake to have for the rest of the Year's
supposed to have little pieces of Christmas gag, aren't you
know those really square pieces you can't have like like
(12:46):
some cakes. You know you have a week of cake.
You don't get that with Christmas pack for the year.
Any phenomenon. Is it a worldwide thing or is it
just in New Zealanders?
Speaker 5 (12:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Anyway, Come on, it's only the third of October, nerve
get the supermarket to break. Do you really need to
be making the Christmas cakes yet? Get your Halloween cakes
out of the way first, then we'll talk Christmas k
I am Glen Heart. That has been used to it
zid bean. It's not rushed for year away. We've still
(13:19):
got basically a quarter of it to go, so back,
enjoy it. We'll see you back here again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
News Talking Talking zid Bean. For more from News Talk
said b listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
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