October 13, 2024 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) Hope I Can Contain Myself/How Many Languages Do We Really Need/Remember the Good Old Days?/No News for Me/Sometimes It's Good to Blow Your Head Off
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said b
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Used Talk said, be you Talk said Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean The Weekend Edition.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
First with yesterday's news.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I am Glen Hart, and we are looking back at
Sunday and Saturday, which is when all the best weekends happen.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Should we be speaking more than one language in New Zealand?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
New Zealand first had its ag em, So there's a
lot of winging and whining going on there. Sixty percent
of us try to avoid the news, and Donna Hay
has got a new cookbook out before.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Any of that. A. Yeah, the America's Cups happening, big wop.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
I think that was one of the big questions Chris
wasn't It was how would Team New Zealand be having
not raced competitively for the best part of a month.
Did they look like a team that had just been
watching on and not racing.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I looked like a team who just have been racing.
I mean they looked great out there today. It wasn't
an easy day either. The wind was sort of all
over the place. It was light and then it sort
of built into the afternoon, but it was still very
patchy and they had to work really hard to sort
of put the pieces together to make a good complete race.
(01:33):
And we saw that in the second race that they
were able to do that. I think it was the
fifth leg, the second to last up wind that they
really started putting the putting the pieces together and built
a good lead in that one. And what really impressed
me about them today was the coms on board. Like
I said, it was a tough day and they were
really just kind of talking it out. And that's a
(01:56):
big part of these boats now that you've got helmsmen
on both sides, so they really only see one side
of the course each. So it was really interesting to
listen to that and just how sort of detail they
go into these things.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Did you find that as interesting as Chris read did.
We'd glued to your what do you watch it on?
So you don't even know what you're supposed to be
watching it on? Do you we're over this? Are we
should we move on? Let's move on news talk?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Has it been all right?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
We think of ourselves as being very multicultural here Copropolitan,
don't we in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
But how many languages can you speak?
Speaker 6 (02:38):
It's really sloppy, it's really insular, and honestly, it's embarrassing
to visit poor neighborhoods in poor countries and realize that,
despite the relative lack of educational opportunities, kids can speak
many more languages than most of us can. It's wonderful
to see the revitalization of today or Maudi, but New
(03:01):
Zealand must still be one of the most monolingual developed
countries on Earth. So here we go again. Like trying
to start a lawn mower that has been sitting in
the shed for fifteen years, I am pulling at the
starter a chord and pleading the engine to fire. The
(03:25):
cat likes to sleep. I would like to buy a
ticket for the train. Ough, it is just so humbling
to go so far back m batazada even, and yet
still so rewarding when you feel something stick exitao. That's
the thing about language, a more than vowels and consonants.
(03:47):
It's the front door to culture, a gate to a
whole new world.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Is it wrong that I have the complete opposite opinion,
and I feel like we should all speak the same language.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Everywhere in the world.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I don't really have strong feelings about what that language
should be. Let's just go with which a one is
the most popular. It's working by the one. Most people
will go with that one, he said, hoping that it
was English. So you did need to go out and
learn on another one. But yeah, I mean, how long
are we going to persist in keeping I just I'm
(04:25):
bit confused about the reason behind keeping old languages alive.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Traversial.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Probably you've talk sid Actually another guy's his controversial racist
stuf quite a lot is our deputy Prome Minister. They
had their annual general meeting over the weekend. When I
say they, I mean there's party in New Zealand. First, yeah, yeah,
it's not just him, he has a whole party.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Were you know awhare of that?
Speaker 7 (04:49):
You seem to spend cool reasonable amount of time having
a crack at labor? Are you making a play for
the some of the more traditional voters.
Speaker 8 (04:59):
Oh, we're certain that we representing they're working people of
this country, who are after all, all sorts of people.
They're the businesses, they're and manual jobs all got the
same struggle on. And then they are elitists and they've
forgotten who they're meant to be talking about.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
Had also talked a lot about some of the international
success stories, maybe the smaller countries. I think it was Ireland, Croatia,
and you know, the success that they have experienced, especially Ireland,
I think, given the terrible conflict internally they had and
now they've turned themselves around. What are the lessons we
can learn from countries like that?
Speaker 8 (05:35):
Well, Surbarvis, do you ask that question? Because Ireland was
when I first went there, a very very poor country
and their biggest export were highly educated young people going
to some other country, and they in a short time
became the Celtic Tiger with some sound policies to attract investment,
new industries, new jobs, and new wealth. And they were
just duplicating what Taiwan had done and what Singapore had done,
(05:57):
and what other countries wise he hare doing now like
Croatia free from the chapels of communism, and it's taken off.
And so I'm saying, why are we standing here not
learning from them in doing things that we used to
be the world leaders of when we were number one?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
What will we number one at? Just checking.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
This is the kind of rhetoric that grinds my gears.
You know, harken back to better times which may or
may not have existed and been as better as we
claim they are, depending on the metrics of which things
were being measured, whether those things were actually being measured
in all the countries in the world.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
And it wasn't always great.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
We weren't actually the best in the world at every
single thing back in the old days, but some politicians
would have you believed that we were.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Are you a fan of news? I certainly am not.
I can't stand.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It interesting that I'm not in the minority. Apparently sixty
percent of us avoid the news.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
We act we avoid it.
Speaker 9 (07:09):
What reasons were given for avoiding.
Speaker 10 (07:11):
News, Well, the number one reason why kiwis avoid the
news is because of how the news makes them feel
are depressed, and that's probably because of the number of
events that have been going on in the last few years,
the pandemic, the number of wars, crises, and I think
that's having an accumulative effect. There's also the perceived quality
(07:31):
or lack of quality to the news, So there's a
perception of bias growing mistrust towards the media, and some
people simply think that the media doesn't really offer any
utility in their day to day lives.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
Okay, do we have any pre COVID figures that we
compare these ones too, just out of curiosity.
Speaker 10 (07:49):
Unfortunately not in New Zealand, but I believe so internationally,
and I think the pandemic it is wide. The acknowledge
that it's had an effect on people's sort of appetite
for the news.
Speaker 9 (07:59):
Made a bit of a dent in terms of demographic
Are there trends on who was more likely to avoid
the news?
Speaker 10 (08:07):
Yes, So we ask questions around gender, age, and political beliefs,
and we found that women are more likely to avoid
the news than men, and that's perhaps because of some
sort of outdated but lingering gender norms around the news
is for men and isn't for women. Of course we
know that's not true these days, but those norms can
sort of linger and then people with more center are
(08:29):
more right wing sorry beliefs, then left wing we're more
likely to distrust the news as well. Or people whose
views go off to the ends of the spectrum are
also more likely to avoid the news, and that's because
their views are less likely to be represented in the
mainstream news.
Speaker 9 (08:44):
Maybe women are just busy just throwing that out there.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
There you go, That's why I avoid the news so much.
I'm in touch with the feminine side of my brain.
You weren't expecting that we're so anyway. That is something
that we're number one at apparently, is avoiding the Newsboy
voiaged the news like we do now under organizations like
(09:13):
DV and Z are in such.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
A trouble news talk zid Bean.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
News talk, You'll be fine. We're going to finish up
here with a bit of food talk zib. Here's Dona
Hay with a new cookbook.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Where does the inspo come from?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Is it you?
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Is it the publisher? Is someone saying, Donna, can you
write a book about this? Or do you automatically know
when you're publishing something new the kind of themes that
you want to extol through your recipes.
Speaker 11 (09:41):
I wish it was that easy. It's kind of a
combination of all of it. You know, I'm a busy
working mum. I have friends who are asking me questions
all the time, and then of course my publisher is involved.
But you know, as you mentioned in your intro, the
one pan under Lasagnia, I realized I hadn't cooked my
children lasagna for a very very long time, because even
(10:06):
on the weekend, Jack, I not coming home and layering
up that deliciousness and taking two hours out of my
life for it to be consumed by very hungry boys
in a matter of minutes. So I kind of look
at things that I want to redo or is there
a quicker way to do this while getting all the
you know, the gorgeous layers and the younginness of lasagna,
(10:28):
And how can I reinvent mac and cheese? Is there
a better way to do this? I cannot stand at
the stove making cheese sauce for my beautiful son who
is addicted to mac and cheese anymore. So, you know,
it's just I guess it's I guess it's just life
that kind of dictates what I'm going to try and
twist and turn into a great recipe.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Well see that's I think there's the term right there,
twist and turn right, because it seems to me for
the way that you look at things as you are
often reimagining right, so you're often tweaking, and certainly and
too easy. That's the kind of approach you've taken. You
you've found ways that are like really not convenience food necessary,
but stuff that would take a bit longer for you know,
(11:10):
like if you're going to spend two hours cooking at
lasagne're and actually there might be an easy way to
do things.
Speaker 11 (11:15):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, And I think you can find those shortcuts.
And and you said, I'm not in to process food,
but I think there are some things that you can
definitely keep in your pantry that just punch above their weights.
You know, things that you might only use like wasabi
paste for example. You know you think, oh, yeah, we
just have that with sushi. Well, actually, when you add
(11:36):
it to a dressing or a marinade, it adds that
extra zing and it doesn't have to blow your head off.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Quite fun when it does, though, Isn't it is you
that little.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Explosion behind the sinuses. There's like your brain's coming out
in the front of your head.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And it's why you do it, Isn't it just you
know you just need and you never quite know when
it's going to happen either, do you.
Speaker 12 (12:03):
That's a fun part of wisabi good good stuff in
your I am clean hard, got me a little bit hungry,
then I'll go.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Ahead, my what about book. I'm gonna say lunch this.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Morning, I'm when I say large, and I mean greekless.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
But by the time I get around of eating it
at seven am at basically is my lunch gone. Ah
that's right, a banana, I wonder whatever tastes like a
little bit of a save art.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Anyway, we'll see I'm going to go after eat that,
and we'll see back here and get tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Cos Us Talk is talking sid Bean. For more from
used Talk said b. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you Talk said Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean The Weekend Edition.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
First with yesterday's news.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I am Glen Hart, and we are looking back at
Sunday and Saturday, which is when all the best weekends happen.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Should we be speaking more than one language in New Zealand?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
New Zealand first had its ag em, So there's a
lot of winging and whining going on there. Sixty percent
of us try to avoid the news, and Donna Hay
has got a new cookbook out before.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Any of that. A. Yeah, the America's Cups happening, big wop.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
I think that was one of the big questions Chris
wasn't It was how would Team New Zealand be having
not raced competitively for the best part of a month.
Did they look like a team that had just been
watching on and not racing.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I looked like a team who just have been racing.
I mean they looked great out there today. It wasn't
an easy day either. The wind was sort of all
over the place. It was light and then it sort
of built into the afternoon, but it was still very
patchy and they had to work really hard to sort
of put the pieces together to make a good complete race.
(01:33):
And we saw that in the second race that they
were able to do that. I think it was the
fifth leg, the second to last up wind that they
really started putting the putting the pieces together and built
a good lead in that one. And what really impressed
me about them today was the coms on board. Like
I said, it was a tough day and they were
really just kind of talking it out. And that's a
(01:56):
big part of these boats now that you've got helmsmen
on both sides, so they really only see one side
of the course each. So it was really interesting to
listen to that and just how sort of detail they
go into these things.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Did you find that as interesting as Chris read did.
We'd glued to your what do you watch it on?
So you don't even know what you're supposed to be
watching it on? Do you we're over this? Are we
should we move on? Let's move on news talk?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Has it been all right?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
We think of ourselves as being very multicultural here Copropolitan,
don't we in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
But how many languages can you speak?
Speaker 6 (02:38):
It's really sloppy, it's really insular, and honestly, it's embarrassing
to visit poor neighborhoods in poor countries and realize that,
despite the relative lack of educational opportunities, kids can speak
many more languages than most of us can. It's wonderful
to see the revitalization of today or Maudi, but New
(03:01):
Zealand must still be one of the most monolingual developed
countries on Earth. So here we go again. Like trying
to start a lawn mower that has been sitting in
the shed for fifteen years, I am pulling at the
starter a chord and pleading the engine to fire. The
(03:25):
cat likes to sleep. I would like to buy a
ticket for the train. Ough, it is just so humbling
to go so far back m batazada even, and yet
still so rewarding when you feel something stick exitao. That's
the thing about language, a more than vowels and consonants.
(03:47):
It's the front door to culture, a gate to a
whole new world.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Is it wrong that I have the complete opposite opinion,
and I feel like we should all speak the same language.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Everywhere in the world.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I don't really have strong feelings about what that language
should be. Let's just go with which a one is
the most popular. It's working by the one. Most people
will go with that one, he said, hoping that it
was English. So you did need to go out and
learn on another one. But yeah, I mean, how long
are we going to persist in keeping I just I'm
(04:25):
bit confused about the reason behind keeping old languages alive.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Traversial.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Probably you've talk sid Actually another guy's his controversial racist
stuf quite a lot is our deputy Prome Minister. They
had their annual general meeting over the weekend. When I
say they, I mean there's party in New Zealand. First, yeah, yeah,
it's not just him, he has a whole party.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Were you know awhare of that?
Speaker 7 (04:49):
You seem to spend cool reasonable amount of time having
a crack at labor? Are you making a play for
the some of the more traditional voters.
Speaker 8 (04:59):
Oh, we're certain that we representing they're working people of
this country, who are after all, all sorts of people.
They're the businesses, they're and manual jobs all got the
same struggle on. And then they are elitists and they've
forgotten who they're meant to be talking about.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
Had also talked a lot about some of the international
success stories, maybe the smaller countries. I think it was Ireland, Croatia,
and you know, the success that they have experienced, especially Ireland,
I think, given the terrible conflict internally they had and
now they've turned themselves around. What are the lessons we
can learn from countries like that?
Speaker 8 (05:35):
Well, Surbarvis, do you ask that question? Because Ireland was
when I first went there, a very very poor country
and their biggest export were highly educated young people going
to some other country, and they in a short time
became the Celtic Tiger with some sound policies to attract investment,
new industries, new jobs, and new wealth. And they were
just duplicating what Taiwan had done and what Singapore had done,
(05:57):
and what other countries wise he hare doing now like
Croatia free from the chapels of communism, and it's taken off.
And so I'm saying, why are we standing here not
learning from them in doing things that we used to
be the world leaders of when we were number one?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
What will we number one at? Just checking.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
This is the kind of rhetoric that grinds my gears.
You know, harken back to better times which may or
may not have existed and been as better as we
claim they are, depending on the metrics of which things
were being measured, whether those things were actually being measured
in all the countries in the world.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
And it wasn't always great.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
We weren't actually the best in the world at every
single thing back in the old days, but some politicians
would have you believed that we were.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Are you a fan of news? I certainly am not.
I can't stand.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It interesting that I'm not in the minority. Apparently sixty
percent of us avoid the news.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
We act we avoid it.
Speaker 9 (07:09):
What reasons were given for avoiding.
Speaker 10 (07:11):
News, Well, the number one reason why kiwis avoid the
news is because of how the news makes them feel
are depressed, and that's probably because of the number of
events that have been going on in the last few years,
the pandemic, the number of wars, crises, and I think
that's having an accumulative effect. There's also the perceived quality
(07:31):
or lack of quality to the news, So there's a
perception of bias growing mistrust towards the media, and some
people simply think that the media doesn't really offer any
utility in their day to day lives.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
Okay, do we have any pre COVID figures that we
compare these ones too, just out of curiosity.
Speaker 10 (07:49):
Unfortunately not in New Zealand, but I believe so internationally,
and I think the pandemic it is wide. The acknowledge
that it's had an effect on people's sort of appetite
for the news.
Speaker 9 (07:59):
Made a bit of a dent in terms of demographic
Are there trends on who was more likely to avoid
the news?
Speaker 10 (08:07):
Yes, So we ask questions around gender, age, and political beliefs,
and we found that women are more likely to avoid
the news than men, and that's perhaps because of some
sort of outdated but lingering gender norms around the news
is for men and isn't for women. Of course we
know that's not true these days, but those norms can
sort of linger and then people with more center are
(08:29):
more right wing sorry beliefs, then left wing we're more
likely to distrust the news as well. Or people whose
views go off to the ends of the spectrum are
also more likely to avoid the news, and that's because
their views are less likely to be represented in the
mainstream news.
Speaker 9 (08:44):
Maybe women are just busy just throwing that out there.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
There you go, That's why I avoid the news so much.
I'm in touch with the feminine side of my brain.
You weren't expecting that we're so anyway. That is something
that we're number one at apparently, is avoiding the Newsboy
voiaged the news like we do now under organizations like
(09:13):
DV and Z are in such.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
A trouble news talk zid Bean.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
News talk, You'll be fine. We're going to finish up
here with a bit of food talk zib. Here's Dona
Hay with a new cookbook.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Where does the inspo come from?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Is it you?
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Is it the publisher? Is someone saying, Donna, can you
write a book about this? Or do you automatically know
when you're publishing something new the kind of themes that
you want to extol through your recipes.
Speaker 11 (09:41):
I wish it was that easy. It's kind of a
combination of all of it. You know, I'm a busy
working mum. I have friends who are asking me questions
all the time, and then of course my publisher is involved.
But you know, as you mentioned in your intro, the
one pan under Lasagnia, I realized I hadn't cooked my
children lasagna for a very very long time, because even
(10:06):
on the weekend, Jack, I not coming home and layering
up that deliciousness and taking two hours out of my
life for it to be consumed by very hungry boys
in a matter of minutes. So I kind of look
at things that I want to redo or is there
a quicker way to do this while getting all the
you know, the gorgeous layers and the younginness of lasagna,
(10:28):
And how can I reinvent mac and cheese? Is there
a better way to do this? I cannot stand at
the stove making cheese sauce for my beautiful son who
is addicted to mac and cheese anymore. So, you know,
it's just I guess it's I guess it's just life
that kind of dictates what I'm going to try and
twist and turn into a great recipe.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Well see that's I think there's the term right there,
twist and turn right, because it seems to me for
the way that you look at things as you are
often reimagining right, so you're often tweaking, and certainly and
too easy. That's the kind of approach you've taken. You
you've found ways that are like really not convenience food necessary,
but stuff that would take a bit longer for you know,
(11:10):
like if you're going to spend two hours cooking at
lasagne're and actually there might be an easy way to
do things.
Speaker 11 (11:15):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, And I think you can find those shortcuts.
And and you said, I'm not in to process food,
but I think there are some things that you can
definitely keep in your pantry that just punch above their weights.
You know, things that you might only use like wasabi
paste for example. You know you think, oh, yeah, we
just have that with sushi. Well, actually, when you add
(11:36):
it to a dressing or a marinade, it adds that
extra zing and it doesn't have to blow your head off.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Quite fun when it does, though, Isn't it is you
that little.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Explosion behind the sinuses. There's like your brain's coming out
in the front of your head.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And it's why you do it, Isn't it just you
know you just need and you never quite know when
it's going to happen either, do you.
Speaker 12 (12:03):
That's a fun part of wisabi good good stuff in
your I am clean hard, got me a little bit hungry,
then I'll go.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Ahead, my what about book. I'm gonna say lunch this.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Morning, I'm when I say large, and I mean greekless.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
But by the time I get around of eating it
at seven am at basically is my lunch gone. Ah
that's right, a banana, I wonder whatever tastes like a
little bit of a save art.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Anyway, we'll see I'm going to go after eat that,
and we'll see back here and get tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Cos Us Talk is talking sid Bean. For more from
used Talk said b. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcast on iHeartRadio
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