October 16, 2024 • 14 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) Just Remind Me, Is it Chris or Christopher?/Language Barrier or Racism?/Comet Watch/Why Are the Drinks Always On Me?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Used Talk said, be you Talk said.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart and we
are looking back at Wednesday. We need to talk about
whether or not nurses should speak English or be forced
to speak only English, or.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's just very weird.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Did you see the comet? Have you been watching the comet?
Are your comet obsessed? And a big day at Matt
Heath's household will find out why that was yesterday. But
before any of that, the shine is really wearing off
Luxen at the moment, Isn't it not just Luxon but
(01:05):
alban Easy There seems to be people just don't like
the leader that they voted for. It's a weird thing,
isn't It.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Doesn't matter which side of politics they're on. Albanesi Labor
he's just bought a four million dollar cliff top mansion
north of Sydney. Kiir Starmer Labor. He's worth ten million
New Zealand dollars excluding all the donor freebies. Karmela Harris
worth thirteen million New Zealand dollars dollars. Tory Farno won Lotto,
Richie Soon acts a billionaire just into are doing gets
three hundred thousand dollars per speaking. Chris Sipkins has multiple properties,
(01:35):
so they are all rich. The question is does it
really matter and why the question in the first place.
Would we rather they only got rich through public office,
as Albanese seems to be admitting. He says, I'm fortunate
and much better off as Prime minister. Personally, I'd rather
they managed to build a business, run a company, or
(01:57):
do something productive first to earn their wealth, rather than
just walk into a job as Prime minister and get
rich that way or when lotto. If somebody had experience
it's running a charity or something like that, wasn't paid
very well, but was skilled and motivated and strategic, then
I'd vote for them too. It's about experience. It's not
shouldn't be about surely how wealthy you are or how
(02:20):
poor you are. What matters is how well you can
run an economy so that hard working people can get ahead.
Just ask Donald Trump. He's about to be re elected
despite being born with a silver spoon in his mouth
for exactly that record under his last watch.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
So Ryan's already decided who's going to win the US
presidential election. So that's interesting with most people claiming the
Poles Show it's too tired to call, but Ryan must
have some inside information there. You heard it here first, well,
less you were listening to Ryan yesterday morning, in which
(02:59):
case he heard.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It there first, News Talk seth Bean.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But back to Christopher Laxen specifically, Uh, why is everybody
just sort of over him at the moment?
Speaker 6 (03:11):
That laugh?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Ay?
Speaker 6 (03:12):
That laugh comes out too often. Sounds like a guy
who is trying desperately to make Mike like him.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
The freeze gonna have rail or not.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Look tracks the dawn.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Now if you if you go and watch his tiktoks,
don't go watch his tiktoks. It's awful. It's actually so cringe.
It's unbelievable. I can't explain why his wife to a
bucket of water on him.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
I have no idea.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
I don't know why that happened. It was weird. I
also don't know why he did an entire thirty second
TikTok video just using kids slang.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Any New Zealand back on track, no cap phone batter
School's eight and it left no crumbs slay.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
The only explanation is that he's trying really hard to
make us like him, and he's a try hard now.
In person, I really like Chris Luxon. He's actually a
really nice guy. He's engaging, he's warm, he's got really
good chat. But I do not see that when I
watch him on TV or social media, and I do
not hear that when I hear him on the radio.
That says to me, the problem is a lack of authenticity. Right,
That's a really big problem for a politician. I studied
(04:12):
political science post the graduate level, and there's a lot
of research on the fact that the most important thing
that you have to have is authenticity, and he hasn't
got it. John Key was authentic. He was as goofy
in person as he was on the Telly. Helen was authentic.
She was as stern in person as she was on
the Telly. Right, Luckson's not authentic. That is what he
needs to fix. This is fixable for him. He can
(04:32):
repair this. He needs to be authentic. And I think
that that is what the pole is hinting at. He
is out of touch with himself.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, I mean, don't watch his TikTok and I go
take it a step there there. Don't watch anybody's TikTok.
Don't watch TikTok with's that social media? I think we're
done with it. An'tly, it's kind of it's outlived its welcome.
But yeah, back to Lucks and specifically, I've always had
(05:04):
the feeling that he's just trying to please people. Ever
since a he went from being Christopher to I just
call me Chris, I started getting a bit worried about
what he actually stood for. Anyway, you talk, right, you
up in arms about this? What language people should speak
if they work at hospitals for some reason, we need
(05:30):
hard and past rules on this. There's no gray area here.
Speaker 8 (05:34):
More credit to the people who do, who do pass
their English proficiency when they've come from somewhere else. Well,
I'm sure I wouldn't be able to pass my Mandarin
proficiency or my Hindi. You know so much more than
what you're communicating, and yet all the person here is
on the other end is a basic, one dimensional other.
(05:57):
So any chance you get to be you, to be
all of the you rather than the basic you. I
can understand why people would take that. Again, at no
point should clinical safety be compromised, At no point should
(06:19):
a patient's treatment be in any way misinterpreted because there
is a lack of understanding. But if you have the
time to talk to somebody in their own language, in
their first language, wouldn't you take it? I mean, anybody
who's lived overseas must know what that is like. And
(06:42):
the relief when you start to build upon the basic
structural foundation of the language you're learning to be able
to offer more of yourself through words is immense. So
two people who have chosen to make their life in
this country, who have learned English at school quite different
(07:05):
to using it in day to day life. Credit to you.
Where clinical safety is paramount, English must be spoken. But
if you've got a bit of downtime, can you possibly
blame somebody for wanting to be all that they can
(07:27):
be through the expression of their own language.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, is this really an issue?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
It sounds like somebody.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Caused a bit of a stir because they were a
bit racist when they went to hospital when they didn't
want people who couldn't speak English doing things to them.
And probably those people could speak English, but they just
happened to not speak English at some point. That's what
it sounds like happened to me and saying that.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Like accents.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I don't know whether it's just me getting old or death.
I do find myself sometimes if somebody English is not
their first language and they've got a thick accent, I
find myself turning into one of those people are saying,
I'm sorry, I can't understand what you're saying. Is that
just when I'm on hold to call centers that ask
(08:25):
for technical advice? I think that is mostly when an athelestatic,
but it's not when I've been in hospital. When I've
been in hospital, I've found everybody the big perfect I
guess what I'm saying is if I call a call center,
can you please speak in English that I can understand?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That's what I'm asking for.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
This is really it's the only thing I've got to
go on at that point. Now, have you been obsessed
with this comic that only comes around every eighty thousand
years or something?
Speaker 5 (08:50):
So you've got to go to a West Coast beach?
Carry or tahi? Oh there's another eye and there that's
what gets me carry Oi Tahi. You might be there,
or any of those beaches right down there the country,
even as far down as an audity beach, or in
fact Mason's Bay and Stewart Island, that'd be a good
place to be. So you go there, you go to
the each on the west coast, and you look for
(09:11):
the first star that appears after sunset. But the trick
is it's not a star, it's Venus. So you look
for Venus in the sky, which will bear a twinkling
star that's actually a planet. And from there you come
down towards the horizon, and then about halfway down you
go to the right, and there you should see the comet.
(09:36):
I'd love to, but I'm at work and I don't
think the comet's a big enough deal yet to say
to the boss. And I'm going to broadcast from the
beach because one thing I know about broadcasting, one of
the golden rules about broadcasting. I'll put this in the book.
The key to broadcasting is to be able to control
what you can control. Very rarely does it warrant doing
(10:00):
an outside broadcast, because what normally happens with people and
outside broadcast, the sound is terrible. And halfway through the
go back to the studio because no one can hear it.
That's front of mine for me when it comes to
outside broadcast. But if you are on the West coast beach,
let us know what you can see the trouble, Dan,
(10:20):
and I'd like you to do something about this. Dan,
as I try and think of something brilliant to say,
is anything on Twitter? Is anyone saying they've seen it?
I don't even know what you'd google? Has it got
to handle because it's got a recomplicated name, right, what
would you search for on Twitter? We just Dan said,
long and confoluted. I'm going to just do it myself.
(10:42):
But that's talking to the audience. Do you not that
you do anything wrong? Dan, I'm thinking, actually, I just
put comment and I'll see if anyone's posted anything on
Twitter or anything else. Could I want to bring total
coverage for this?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Nothing.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I mean, I love Space News, but I actually am
really really over being told that this is a once
in a lifetime opportunity to see something because it happens.
I feel like it happens more than once a week.
Now that there's something that you won't see again until
the year twenty fifty. But there will be another one
just like it tomorrow. I think there's one comment look
(11:27):
massively different to another, especially if you're just standing there
on a beach.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Looking west news talk ze bean.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Right, So we did a bit of birthday call news
on the afternoon day yesterday. Why not Maddy today?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (11:46):
Huge day in my household? Certainly is my son is
buying me a beer tonight. My son is going to
take me out and buy me a beer. He's eighteen today.
Can I just say to anyone that's got young kids,
goes so incredibly fast. I know it's a cliche, but
I'm just I'm tearing up today looking at pictures when
he was just little. I mean, at one point he
(12:07):
could sit in my hand. He can literally sit in
my hand, and now I can basically sit in his hand.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
Mate.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
That's a beautiful moment, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Eighteen and buying as first beer for you?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
What's he going for?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
What brand?
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Well, I don't know. He's a big fan of Guinness Gnnis. Yeah,
so he might be buying me that. But you know,
there's is a little bit of stuff around there. He's
got to get his id together. But I've seen this before, actually,
I've seen that situation where you can you can buy
a beer and you want to buy a beer for
your dad and your mum, and you head up and
it's a big moment and there's just the swagger and
(12:38):
you step but they don't ask you for id it's
just the way you walk up to the bar when
you when you're when you're completely and utterly legit, where
they just serve it to you. But it's going to
be a big, big moment.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Or Charlie's a strapping lad, isn't he six point two?
Speaker 7 (12:52):
Yeah he's up there. Yeah he's pretty buff. He's a big,
big guy. But yeah, boy, it goes so incredibly fast.
And as much as you're proud and the joy and
seeing this big fellow walking around, you just miss all
those all the different at moments in the life and
you love to live them over.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Again, beautifully said mate, And enjoy it tonight. That's going
to be good.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
That's interesting that he's making the sun by him a drink.
Because my kids, I don't I don't think they've ever
they will jump out the opportunity to have a dinner
out or you know, go somewhere for a drink and
(13:35):
some food, and they've never offered to pay, I don't
think so that's that's he's done something right.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I've got wrong.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Also, it's amazing when you hear people talking about their
kids like that. They obviously have a completely different attitudes
of perioding than I do, where all I've ever wanted
for my kids is for them to go away from me,
and we can just put that hole. So I was
a thing behind us.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
So I guess that's just me.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
On that note that there's been news SOK said been,
and we'll do it all again tomorrow with more helpful
parent andufts like that.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Used Talk said, be you Talk said.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart and we
are looking back at Wednesday. We need to talk about
whether or not nurses should speak English or be forced
to speak only English, or.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's just very weird.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Did you see the comet? Have you been watching the comet?
Are your comet obsessed? And a big day at Matt
Heath's household will find out why that was yesterday. But
before any of that, the shine is really wearing off
Luxen at the moment, Isn't it not just Luxon but
(01:05):
alban Easy There seems to be people just don't like
the leader that they voted for. It's a weird thing,
isn't It.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Doesn't matter which side of politics they're on. Albanesi Labor
he's just bought a four million dollar cliff top mansion
north of Sydney. Kiir Starmer Labor. He's worth ten million
New Zealand dollars excluding all the donor freebies. Karmela Harris
worth thirteen million New Zealand dollars dollars. Tory Farno won Lotto,
Richie Soon acts a billionaire just into are doing gets
three hundred thousand dollars per speaking. Chris Sipkins has multiple properties,
(01:35):
so they are all rich. The question is does it
really matter and why the question in the first place.
Would we rather they only got rich through public office,
as Albanese seems to be admitting. He says, I'm fortunate
and much better off as Prime minister. Personally, I'd rather
they managed to build a business, run a company, or
(01:57):
do something productive first to earn their wealth, rather than
just walk into a job as Prime minister and get
rich that way or when lotto. If somebody had experience
it's running a charity or something like that, wasn't paid
very well, but was skilled and motivated and strategic, then
I'd vote for them too. It's about experience. It's not
shouldn't be about surely how wealthy you are or how
(02:20):
poor you are. What matters is how well you can
run an economy so that hard working people can get ahead.
Just ask Donald Trump. He's about to be re elected
despite being born with a silver spoon in his mouth
for exactly that record under his last watch.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
So Ryan's already decided who's going to win the US
presidential election. So that's interesting with most people claiming the
Poles Show it's too tired to call, but Ryan must
have some inside information there. You heard it here first, well,
less you were listening to Ryan yesterday morning, in which
(02:59):
case he heard.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It there first, News Talk seth Bean.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But back to Christopher Laxen specifically, Uh, why is everybody
just sort of over him at the moment?
Speaker 6 (03:11):
That laugh?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Ay?
Speaker 6 (03:12):
That laugh comes out too often. Sounds like a guy
who is trying desperately to make Mike like him.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
The freeze gonna have rail or not.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Look tracks the dawn.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Now if you if you go and watch his tiktoks,
don't go watch his tiktoks. It's awful. It's actually so cringe.
It's unbelievable. I can't explain why his wife to a
bucket of water on him.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
I have no idea.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
I don't know why that happened. It was weird. I
also don't know why he did an entire thirty second
TikTok video just using kids slang.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Any New Zealand back on track, no cap phone batter
School's eight and it left no crumbs slay.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
The only explanation is that he's trying really hard to
make us like him, and he's a try hard now.
In person, I really like Chris Luxon. He's actually a
really nice guy. He's engaging, he's warm, he's got really
good chat. But I do not see that when I
watch him on TV or social media, and I do
not hear that when I hear him on the radio.
That says to me, the problem is a lack of authenticity. Right,
That's a really big problem for a politician. I studied
(04:12):
political science post the graduate level, and there's a lot
of research on the fact that the most important thing
that you have to have is authenticity, and he hasn't
got it. John Key was authentic. He was as goofy
in person as he was on the Telly. Helen was authentic.
She was as stern in person as she was on
the Telly. Right, Luckson's not authentic. That is what he
needs to fix. This is fixable for him. He can
(04:32):
repair this. He needs to be authentic. And I think
that that is what the pole is hinting at. He
is out of touch with himself.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, I mean, don't watch his TikTok and I go
take it a step there there. Don't watch anybody's TikTok.
Don't watch TikTok with's that social media? I think we're
done with it. An'tly, it's kind of it's outlived its welcome.
But yeah, back to Lucks and specifically, I've always had
(05:04):
the feeling that he's just trying to please people. Ever
since a he went from being Christopher to I just
call me Chris, I started getting a bit worried about
what he actually stood for. Anyway, you talk, right, you
up in arms about this? What language people should speak
if they work at hospitals for some reason, we need
(05:30):
hard and past rules on this. There's no gray area here.
Speaker 8 (05:34):
More credit to the people who do, who do pass
their English proficiency when they've come from somewhere else. Well,
I'm sure I wouldn't be able to pass my Mandarin
proficiency or my Hindi. You know so much more than
what you're communicating, and yet all the person here is
on the other end is a basic, one dimensional other.
(05:57):
So any chance you get to be you, to be
all of the you rather than the basic you. I
can understand why people would take that. Again, at no
point should clinical safety be compromised, At no point should
(06:19):
a patient's treatment be in any way misinterpreted because there
is a lack of understanding. But if you have the
time to talk to somebody in their own language, in
their first language, wouldn't you take it? I mean, anybody
who's lived overseas must know what that is like. And
(06:42):
the relief when you start to build upon the basic
structural foundation of the language you're learning to be able
to offer more of yourself through words is immense. So
two people who have chosen to make their life in
this country, who have learned English at school quite different
(07:05):
to using it in day to day life. Credit to you.
Where clinical safety is paramount, English must be spoken. But
if you've got a bit of downtime, can you possibly
blame somebody for wanting to be all that they can
(07:27):
be through the expression of their own language.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, is this really an issue?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
It sounds like somebody.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Caused a bit of a stir because they were a
bit racist when they went to hospital when they didn't
want people who couldn't speak English doing things to them.
And probably those people could speak English, but they just
happened to not speak English at some point. That's what
it sounds like happened to me and saying that.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Like accents.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I don't know whether it's just me getting old or death.
I do find myself sometimes if somebody English is not
their first language and they've got a thick accent, I
find myself turning into one of those people are saying,
I'm sorry, I can't understand what you're saying. Is that
just when I'm on hold to call centers that ask
(08:25):
for technical advice? I think that is mostly when an athelestatic,
but it's not when I've been in hospital. When I've
been in hospital, I've found everybody the big perfect I
guess what I'm saying is if I call a call center,
can you please speak in English that I can understand?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That's what I'm asking for.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
This is really it's the only thing I've got to
go on at that point. Now, have you been obsessed
with this comic that only comes around every eighty thousand
years or something?
Speaker 5 (08:50):
So you've got to go to a West Coast beach?
Carry or tahi? Oh there's another eye and there that's
what gets me carry Oi Tahi. You might be there,
or any of those beaches right down there the country,
even as far down as an audity beach, or in
fact Mason's Bay and Stewart Island, that'd be a good
place to be. So you go there, you go to
the each on the west coast, and you look for
(09:11):
the first star that appears after sunset. But the trick
is it's not a star, it's Venus. So you look
for Venus in the sky, which will bear a twinkling
star that's actually a planet. And from there you come
down towards the horizon, and then about halfway down you
go to the right, and there you should see the comet.
(09:36):
I'd love to, but I'm at work and I don't
think the comet's a big enough deal yet to say
to the boss. And I'm going to broadcast from the
beach because one thing I know about broadcasting, one of
the golden rules about broadcasting. I'll put this in the book.
The key to broadcasting is to be able to control
what you can control. Very rarely does it warrant doing
(10:00):
an outside broadcast, because what normally happens with people and
outside broadcast, the sound is terrible. And halfway through the
go back to the studio because no one can hear it.
That's front of mine for me when it comes to
outside broadcast. But if you are on the West coast beach,
let us know what you can see the trouble, Dan,
(10:20):
and I'd like you to do something about this. Dan,
as I try and think of something brilliant to say,
is anything on Twitter? Is anyone saying they've seen it?
I don't even know what you'd google? Has it got
to handle because it's got a recomplicated name, right, what
would you search for on Twitter? We just Dan said,
long and confoluted. I'm going to just do it myself.
(10:42):
But that's talking to the audience. Do you not that
you do anything wrong? Dan, I'm thinking, actually, I just
put comment and I'll see if anyone's posted anything on
Twitter or anything else. Could I want to bring total
coverage for this?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Nothing.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I mean, I love Space News, but I actually am
really really over being told that this is a once
in a lifetime opportunity to see something because it happens.
I feel like it happens more than once a week.
Now that there's something that you won't see again until
the year twenty fifty. But there will be another one
just like it tomorrow. I think there's one comment look
(11:27):
massively different to another, especially if you're just standing there
on a beach.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Looking west news talk ze bean.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Right, So we did a bit of birthday call news
on the afternoon day yesterday. Why not Maddy today?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (11:46):
Huge day in my household? Certainly is my son is
buying me a beer tonight. My son is going to
take me out and buy me a beer. He's eighteen today.
Can I just say to anyone that's got young kids,
goes so incredibly fast. I know it's a cliche, but
I'm just I'm tearing up today looking at pictures when
he was just little. I mean, at one point he
(12:07):
could sit in my hand. He can literally sit in
my hand, and now I can basically sit in his hand.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
Mate.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
That's a beautiful moment, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Eighteen and buying as first beer for you?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
What's he going for?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
What brand?
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Well, I don't know. He's a big fan of Guinness Gnnis. Yeah,
so he might be buying me that. But you know,
there's is a little bit of stuff around there. He's
got to get his id together. But I've seen this before, actually,
I've seen that situation where you can you can buy
a beer and you want to buy a beer for
your dad and your mum, and you head up and
it's a big moment and there's just the swagger and
(12:38):
you step but they don't ask you for id it's
just the way you walk up to the bar when
you when you're when you're completely and utterly legit, where
they just serve it to you. But it's going to
be a big, big moment.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Or Charlie's a strapping lad, isn't he six point two?
Speaker 7 (12:52):
Yeah he's up there. Yeah he's pretty buff. He's a big,
big guy. But yeah, boy, it goes so incredibly fast.
And as much as you're proud and the joy and
seeing this big fellow walking around, you just miss all
those all the different at moments in the life and
you love to live them over.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Again, beautifully said mate, And enjoy it tonight. That's going
to be good.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
That's interesting that he's making the sun by him a drink.
Because my kids, I don't I don't think they've ever
they will jump out the opportunity to have a dinner
out or you know, go somewhere for a drink and
(13:35):
some food, and they've never offered to pay, I don't
think so that's that's he's done something right.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I've got wrong.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Also, it's amazing when you hear people talking about their
kids like that. They obviously have a completely different attitudes
of perioding than I do, where all I've ever wanted
for my kids is for them to go away from me,
and we can just put that hole. So I was
a thing behind us.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
So I guess that's just me.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
On that note that there's been news SOK said been,
and we'll do it all again tomorrow with more helpful
parent andufts like that.
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