October 17, 2024 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB) ACC Falls Down a Hole/That About Wraps it Up for Wellington/You Can Come Back... Under Certain Conditions/We're a Poor Design/So Wrong About Straws
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Thursday. So, yeah, Wellington, what to
do about Wellington? How do you solve a problem like Wellington.
We're going to invite just into our doing back to
(00:45):
solve all our problems, apparently if IVF was a hot
topic on the afternoon show yesterday, And I'm going to
play a little bit of podcast roulette with Marcus, as
I'd sometimes like to do. But before any of that,
ACC has a big budget hole. Is it just that
there's too many of us falling over?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I think for all of those well publicized cases of
those who wrought it. Remember the famous Auckland businessman who
was found playing tennis under his on his very own
tennis called under floodlights and he had been off work
for ages and ages and was exposed on the cover
of the Herald on Sundays. He had been routing the
system for ages. For all of those that wrought there
(01:27):
are very many who contribute towards their own recovery and
towards their own costs could be a whole lot worse.
It means we don't have lawyers suing and counter sewing,
which I think is a very very good thing. And
it does mean that we can be damaged, be fixed,
(01:48):
and go back to work. On the whole, I think
it's still working, and there are surely there are ebbs
and flows in terms of making a profit, investing, putting
money aside, getting a better return some years than others.
As far as I'm concerned, Yep, problems with ACC. Yes,
(02:09):
the seventy four million dollar restructure, that was a U
tune that led to know where unfortunate, But there we go.
We have to live with that, reconcile that into the books,
learn from it, reinstate the case managers, help people get
back into work. As far as I'm concerned, still happy
(02:31):
to pay my levies, Still happy to see ACC continue
to provide the services and the treatments it does.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, my most recent dealings with ACC was last year
when I broke my shoulder, had a bit of an
old man's fall night and it was actually quite difficult
to get off it and get back to work because
I had this medical certificate saying you're excusing me from work.
But the physio was going pretty well, and so I
(03:03):
decided to go back early. Isn't that what everybody wants?
But it turns out to get acc to stop paying
me and also to get somebody had to get somebody
to write me a note to say that I was
allowed to go back to work.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I think some work does need to be done there. Anyway,
I'm here.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Now news talk Zeth.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Been Okay, what to do about Wellington? Is it dying
of death? Wellington? Should we just give up on it?
I don't think Ryan thinks we should.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Like any city, the real pulse, the real engine room
is private enterprise, always has been, always will be. And
there was a tech guru, John Daniel Trusk who spoke
last night. He said we shouldn't always look to the
council to the government to fix our problems or to
make things better, because for the most part we can
(03:57):
actually do it on our own. We can solve problems
on our own. Sure, there are some issues that only
government can and council can look after that only government
and council have a perview you over but for most
things we can actually do it ourselves, and so that
is true of Wellington. Wellington is no exception. Wellington will
(04:19):
come back, and probably doesn't help that people like me
sit in front of microphones in Auckland and bleat about
the place. But you know, it's fun from a distance,
quite different up close.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I've only heard the sort of visited Wellington. I've never
lived there, but I've visited it reasonably regularly. I've always
had a good time, so I don't actually have personal
negative experiences of Wellington. When if you've ever climbed out
Mount Back on a sunny day, it doesn't get much
better than that.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
You talk ZIBB.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Now, Chris Hopkins wants just doing to come back and
solve all our problems? Can she does? Heither think this
is a good idea.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
We are in reasonable economic trouble, right, so the least
we can do is use the person who put us
in the sh to actually get us out of the
stock right, And we need a hell of a lot
of pr out there globally to be done in order
to help us out. And I frankly cannot think of
anybody better than just Cinda to go around shaking hands
and fronting videos and hosting cocktail parties and talking to
investors on our behalf to get them interested in us again. Now,
(05:25):
where are part chuppy part company with Chippy on this?
Is that he thinks, by the sounds of things, all
of us are mad for not wanting her back in
New Zealand public life, and we're all completely unfair on her.
And I do not agree with him on that. I mean,
I think he needs to be a little bit more
honest with himself about it. The woman is frankly single
handedly undermining her own credibility in New Zealand right just
accepting the award at Windsor is unbelievably hypocritical. I mean,
(05:49):
this is from a woman who's a professed Republican who
not only a takes the award, but then but then
goes to the seat of power and takes it from
the future King himself.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
I mean, give me a break. That's just too much.
And then on top of that, this is the I
Care about child poverty lady who last I checked as
doing nothing to help child poverty in the country, but
meanwhile as making megabucks for herself overseas off the back
of what she did to the country, and PS also
has taken an honor for services to the country, which
(06:21):
is a country that has gone backwards on every single
measure that I can think of because of decisions that
she made. So there's nothing like services to the country
over here as disservices to the country anyway, you know
how I feel about the thing, right, we can all
see it for what it is. But but despite what
I think, despite what you think, the world loves her,
and so I agree with Chippy, we should actually be
(06:44):
using her as much as we possibly can to go
out there and advocate on behalf of New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I see. So she doesn't want her to come back.
She wants her to stay away, but because that's where
she's more popular overseas and get people go like us again. Okay,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I'm not exactly sure how the topic of IVF came
up on the Afternoon Show yesterday. Perhaps it was because
Trump's made some interesting claims this week about IVF. He
seems to think that he invented it or something. Anyway,
that's what they were talking about.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
We had their first child through IVF. My wife had
a severe case of endometriosis. This is going back to
nineteen ninety eight ninety nine. We went through fertility and associates.
My wife had to do those you know, as you
would know, those stomach injections fertility, and we had to
(07:42):
take the sperm to the clinic and there were eleven
embryos that they were able to make fertilized. We ended
up with the first six of those they failed, and
then we had to wait three more months where the
last five were put in there and we ended up
having a success. And we were told at the time
(08:05):
on the first scan that there were twins, and that
freaked us out quite a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
You're making me tear up here, mate.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
And then a few weeks later the next scan, one
of them had disappeared, and we ended up with our
new son, who was born in two thousand and he's
twenty four now and a wonderful young chap And then
the next child, our daughter, We had through the normal way.
We were told at the time that getting pregnant would
(08:39):
make the endometriosis kind of disappear, and it did. But
at that time, in the late nineties, I had to
witness my wife an excruciating pain pouring a hot bath
lying in there as hot as the water could handle,
and I couldn't do anything. There was nothing I could do.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yes, the human body is design, really, isn't it. But
the whole thing they really need to have a look
at that.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Time for an upgrade news talk z it been.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
We're going to finish up here a little bit of
podcast really because I have been. I've got something here
called straw referendum. So this is where I take a
bit of audio that I've been sent without listening to it,
and I put it in the podcast. I know it's
to do with something we happened on Marcus's show, but
(09:45):
all I've got to go on is straw referendum.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
So here we go, Marcus, we need more referendums. The
Wellington c s are a bunch of green muppets that
have their own agenda. Well, I think are referendums when
we move back canceled in and out the whole point
of it. You can't then vote to have a democracy
and then say we need referendums because we don't like
the results of the democracy. Ask yourself that question. Wow,
(10:14):
and could you use the pringle container like a straw?
Someone asks I'm surprised that people are still complaining about
paper straws. Who need to straw? No adult ever needs
a straw. I can promise you that a number of
(10:35):
times you go to the bar and ask for drink,
they put a straw and they think, what am I?
A child? Feel quite strongly about straws. No one needs them.
I can promise you that.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
See, that's a classic example of podcasts. Really, it blowing
up in my face because Marcus could not be more wrong.
Nobody wants to drink a milkshake just out of the cup.
It's so ridiculous. What a stupid opinion, Marcus. This is
the worst opinion you've ever had. I've got I'm quite
angry about this, actually, I mean, I don't care if
(11:08):
you have a wide metal straw there, have your milkshake with.
But yeah, so we need advances and female physiology. We
need to get that sort of out upgrades there, and
we've got to solve the straw situation because Marcus is
completely wrong. There are times when you need straws. You
(11:30):
can't be drinking a milkshake, I'm sorry, out of a cup.
It's just stupid. What a stupid thing to say. I
know he was sort of talking about cocktails, and to
be honest, there are cocktails as well that are more
fun to drink with a straw. Your margarita, for example,
your icy you know, slushy style margarita, that's more fun
(11:53):
with the straw because the melted pats go to the
bottom and the icy pats stay on the top. That's
just physics. Come on, Marcus, do you research wen? I
got that off my chest. Man. Terrible, terrible decision to
play podcast through at the end of the week. Let's good.
I'm inning the week and a half. I'll try and
(12:15):
calm down over the weekend. I'll see you back here
on Monday with a weekend edition of the new.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Talk s head Things Us Talking is Talkings it Bean.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
For more from News Talk sed B, listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk SEDB Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Thursday. So, yeah, Wellington, what to
do about Wellington? How do you solve a problem like Wellington.
We're going to invite just into our doing back to
(00:45):
solve all our problems, apparently if IVF was a hot
topic on the afternoon show yesterday, And I'm going to
play a little bit of podcast roulette with Marcus, as
I'd sometimes like to do. But before any of that,
ACC has a big budget hole. Is it just that
there's too many of us falling over?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I think for all of those well publicized cases of
those who wrought it. Remember the famous Auckland businessman who
was found playing tennis under his on his very own
tennis called under floodlights and he had been off work
for ages and ages and was exposed on the cover
of the Herald on Sundays. He had been routing the
system for ages. For all of those that wrought there
(01:27):
are very many who contribute towards their own recovery and
towards their own costs could be a whole lot worse.
It means we don't have lawyers suing and counter sewing,
which I think is a very very good thing. And
it does mean that we can be damaged, be fixed,
(01:48):
and go back to work. On the whole, I think
it's still working, and there are surely there are ebbs
and flows in terms of making a profit, investing, putting
money aside, getting a better return some years than others.
As far as I'm concerned, Yep, problems with ACC. Yes,
(02:09):
the seventy four million dollar restructure, that was a U
tune that led to know where unfortunate, But there we go.
We have to live with that, reconcile that into the books,
learn from it, reinstate the case managers, help people get
back into work. As far as I'm concerned, still happy
(02:31):
to pay my levies, Still happy to see ACC continue
to provide the services and the treatments it does.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, my most recent dealings with ACC was last year
when I broke my shoulder, had a bit of an
old man's fall night and it was actually quite difficult
to get off it and get back to work because
I had this medical certificate saying you're excusing me from work.
But the physio was going pretty well, and so I
(03:03):
decided to go back early. Isn't that what everybody wants?
But it turns out to get acc to stop paying
me and also to get somebody had to get somebody
to write me a note to say that I was
allowed to go back to work.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I think some work does need to be done there. Anyway,
I'm here.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Now news talk Zeth.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Been Okay, what to do about Wellington? Is it dying
of death? Wellington? Should we just give up on it?
I don't think Ryan thinks we should.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Like any city, the real pulse, the real engine room
is private enterprise, always has been, always will be. And
there was a tech guru, John Daniel Trusk who spoke
last night. He said we shouldn't always look to the
council to the government to fix our problems or to
make things better, because for the most part we can
(03:57):
actually do it on our own. We can solve problems
on our own. Sure, there are some issues that only
government can and council can look after that only government
and council have a perview you over but for most
things we can actually do it ourselves, and so that
is true of Wellington. Wellington is no exception. Wellington will
(04:19):
come back, and probably doesn't help that people like me
sit in front of microphones in Auckland and bleat about
the place. But you know, it's fun from a distance,
quite different up close.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I've only heard the sort of visited Wellington. I've never
lived there, but I've visited it reasonably regularly. I've always
had a good time, so I don't actually have personal
negative experiences of Wellington. When if you've ever climbed out
Mount Back on a sunny day, it doesn't get much
better than that.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
You talk ZIBB.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Now, Chris Hopkins wants just doing to come back and
solve all our problems? Can she does? Heither think this
is a good idea.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
We are in reasonable economic trouble, right, so the least
we can do is use the person who put us
in the sh to actually get us out of the
stock right, And we need a hell of a lot
of pr out there globally to be done in order
to help us out. And I frankly cannot think of
anybody better than just Cinda to go around shaking hands
and fronting videos and hosting cocktail parties and talking to
investors on our behalf to get them interested in us again. Now,
(05:25):
where are part chuppy part company with Chippy on this?
Is that he thinks, by the sounds of things, all
of us are mad for not wanting her back in
New Zealand public life, and we're all completely unfair on her.
And I do not agree with him on that. I mean,
I think he needs to be a little bit more
honest with himself about it. The woman is frankly single
handedly undermining her own credibility in New Zealand right just
accepting the award at Windsor is unbelievably hypocritical. I mean,
(05:49):
this is from a woman who's a professed Republican who
not only a takes the award, but then but then
goes to the seat of power and takes it from
the future King himself.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
I mean, give me a break. That's just too much.
And then on top of that, this is the I
Care about child poverty lady who last I checked as
doing nothing to help child poverty in the country, but
meanwhile as making megabucks for herself overseas off the back
of what she did to the country, and PS also
has taken an honor for services to the country, which
(06:21):
is a country that has gone backwards on every single
measure that I can think of because of decisions that
she made. So there's nothing like services to the country
over here as disservices to the country anyway, you know
how I feel about the thing, right, we can all
see it for what it is. But but despite what
I think, despite what you think, the world loves her,
and so I agree with Chippy, we should actually be
(06:44):
using her as much as we possibly can to go
out there and advocate on behalf of New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I see. So she doesn't want her to come back.
She wants her to stay away, but because that's where
she's more popular overseas and get people go like us again. Okay,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I'm not exactly sure how the topic of IVF came
up on the Afternoon Show yesterday. Perhaps it was because
Trump's made some interesting claims this week about IVF. He
seems to think that he invented it or something. Anyway,
that's what they were talking about.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
We had their first child through IVF. My wife had
a severe case of endometriosis. This is going back to
nineteen ninety eight ninety nine. We went through fertility and associates.
My wife had to do those you know, as you
would know, those stomach injections fertility, and we had to
(07:42):
take the sperm to the clinic and there were eleven
embryos that they were able to make fertilized. We ended
up with the first six of those they failed, and
then we had to wait three more months where the
last five were put in there and we ended up
having a success. And we were told at the time
(08:05):
on the first scan that there were twins, and that
freaked us out quite a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
You're making me tear up here, mate.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
And then a few weeks later the next scan, one
of them had disappeared, and we ended up with our
new son, who was born in two thousand and he's
twenty four now and a wonderful young chap And then
the next child, our daughter, We had through the normal way.
We were told at the time that getting pregnant would
(08:39):
make the endometriosis kind of disappear, and it did. But
at that time, in the late nineties, I had to
witness my wife an excruciating pain pouring a hot bath
lying in there as hot as the water could handle,
and I couldn't do anything. There was nothing I could do.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yes, the human body is design, really, isn't it. But
the whole thing they really need to have a look
at that.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Time for an upgrade news talk z it been.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
We're going to finish up here a little bit of
podcast really because I have been. I've got something here
called straw referendum. So this is where I take a
bit of audio that I've been sent without listening to it,
and I put it in the podcast. I know it's
to do with something we happened on Marcus's show, but
(09:45):
all I've got to go on is straw referendum.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
So here we go, Marcus, we need more referendums. The
Wellington c s are a bunch of green muppets that
have their own agenda. Well, I think are referendums when
we move back canceled in and out the whole point
of it. You can't then vote to have a democracy
and then say we need referendums because we don't like
the results of the democracy. Ask yourself that question. Wow,
(10:14):
and could you use the pringle container like a straw?
Someone asks I'm surprised that people are still complaining about
paper straws. Who need to straw? No adult ever needs
a straw. I can promise you that a number of
(10:35):
times you go to the bar and ask for drink,
they put a straw and they think, what am I?
A child? Feel quite strongly about straws. No one needs them.
I can promise you that.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
See, that's a classic example of podcasts. Really, it blowing
up in my face because Marcus could not be more wrong.
Nobody wants to drink a milkshake just out of the cup.
It's so ridiculous. What a stupid opinion, Marcus. This is
the worst opinion you've ever had. I've got I'm quite
angry about this, actually, I mean, I don't care if
(11:08):
you have a wide metal straw there, have your milkshake with.
But yeah, so we need advances and female physiology. We
need to get that sort of out upgrades there, and
we've got to solve the straw situation because Marcus is
completely wrong. There are times when you need straws. You
(11:30):
can't be drinking a milkshake, I'm sorry, out of a cup.
It's just stupid. What a stupid thing to say. I
know he was sort of talking about cocktails, and to
be honest, there are cocktails as well that are more
fun to drink with a straw. Your margarita, for example,
your icy you know, slushy style margarita, that's more fun
(11:53):
with the straw because the melted pats go to the
bottom and the icy pats stay on the top. That's
just physics. Come on, Marcus, do you research wen? I
got that off my chest. Man. Terrible, terrible decision to
play podcast through at the end of the week. Let's good.
I'm inning the week and a half. I'll try and
(12:15):
calm down over the weekend. I'll see you back here
on Monday with a weekend edition of the new.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Talk s head Things Us Talking is Talkings it Bean.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
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air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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