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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glenn Hart, and we
are looking back at Monday. Marcus wants a word on fireworks,
because yes, that's coming up, and we always have lots
of words on fireworks at this time of year, don't we.
But before any of that, a few fireworks around the
(00:46):
place over the America's Cup. Personally, I find it interesting
that the biggest talking point is not the fact that
we won it, but are they ever going to bring
it back here? Interesting? Isn't it? That seems to be
the number one issue.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I think we've all grown up and got past the
whole Old New Zealand's sailors should simply sail for the
love of their country. Remember the Black Hearts campaign just
about tour Z be apart, you know, so at costs
and Emirates Team New Zealand will make whoever wants to
(01:29):
host it pay through the nose for the privilege of
doing so. Is now the right time, doesn't appear to be.
The only thing I'd say in it's favor is that
we've got all that infrastructure there at the viaduct, it's
not being used. It would be at about forty percent capacity,
which is a damn shame. Everything was built and nobody
(01:54):
came because of the extraordinary times. So it would be
nice to see that that investment could be used, could
be capitalized upon. But right now, I would say hosting
a defense of the America's Cup would be and then
(02:16):
nice to have category not in the It is absolutely
imperative that we do so.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Category to the Around the World Race because that used
to stop in at the viaduct as well. That was
quite fun popping down and even I look at all
the different because you know, there were different sort of
classes of boats and and you know, and they'd be
end for quite a while. I did that happened to that?
(02:46):
Is it because we'd stop smoking? Is that why it was?
The wet bread, wasn't it? I think it was something
to do with smoking news talk bean. Yeah, I just
got a bit despective there thinking of fun times I've
had down at the viaducts, and I do remember wandering
around looking at the round the world boats probably actually
(03:09):
enjoyed that more than I did the America's carts. An
it's such a strange fort and all that, you know
the other, all the challenges raise against each other to
then and then the holder only gets to go at the.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
End of the thread.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
The whole thing is so weird, isn't it? So people
still want it?
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Apparently, how much would you be happy with New Zealand
putting into it governmental spending, either council or general government.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
I think they've just got to weigh up how much
it wouldn't packed our economy by having it here. I
mean apparently you know they've made over a billion dollars
in Spain from it on revenue. So I think you've
just got to wait out.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Do you believe those ruth whenever I hear them. I'm
not sure quite how it works. You say this put
this much into the economy, this many people watched it
around the world. You want to know the exis, Zach.
If you could know the exact money going out and
money come back in a very sort of sober investment
(04:18):
sort of strategy, that would be good.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Yeah, And I'll just Helen Clark mentioned she threw out
some numbers here that and I'll just read the quote here.
So an economic impact assessment found the government's investment over
the four year cup cycle this is when she was
in government, and they paid thirty six million dollars to
keep it here added an extra sixty two to seventy
four million to gross domestic product GDP.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Well, I hope Mike Hosking wasn't listening to that. He
gets very angry with people's start quoting Helen clarkas. But
she rang up the station and wanted to have their say.
And also I was thinking about this yesterday. You know,
they're talking about the government putting money into it and
(05:03):
the council, the Auckland Council putting money into it. And
I get that it brings money, and you know, there's
always this argument that it brings you more money in
than what they spent, but the council doesn't necessarily get
that money back very directly, you know what I mean,
Like because a bar or a restaurant down at the
(05:24):
viaduct does three times the business because the Americans caps
it here, that doesn't does that bring our rates bills down?
I don't know that it does, does it? I mean
I'm a bit biased because I've always had a bit
of a problem with the America's Cup, even before the
whole black Cat thing and they took it off to Switzerland,
(05:49):
which was that was a weird turn of events itself.
But you know that whole how much of it, Remember
the days with Dennis Connor and all the rest of it,
and just be in the court room all the time
talking about how big a boat should be and all
the ridiculous to try marine versus a super big boat. Oh,
(06:14):
it's so stupid anyway, how does hear the feel?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
And it's a business decision for New Zealand as well,
and we should be prepared to pay to host the
America's Cup, but no more than we can make of it.
There's no point whatso we ever in losing money on
the America's Cup, which is what happened last time around
when we lost one hundred and fifty million bucks plus,
which to be fair, was exacerbated by COVID. But we
shouldn't be expecting some sort of a favor from Grant
because Grant is a Kiwi citizen and we're a bunch
(06:39):
of Kiwis. If we accept it's a business decision. We're
going to have to strip out the lingering anger that
we appear to have at Grant Dalton's attitude in his
way of going about stuff. We have to strip out
the nonsense about sailing being an elitist sport. It may
or may not be, but it's also something we're just
damned good at and we should be proud of. And
we also have to strip out any kind of sentimentality
(06:59):
that we deserve to have some sort of a nice
event here. You don't deserve to have a nice event
if it's going to cost us millions and millions and
millions and millions of dollars that we do not have
because we're broke. This is a transaction in which we
want to make money. We want to come out in
the black on this one. And then on top of
all of that, we have to accept another fact, which
is we're playing with the big boys. Now, we're playing
with the Saudi Arabias and the Barcelonas, and some of
(07:21):
those guys have got very deep pockets. And it already sounds,
if you listen to the people in Team New Zealand,
it already sounds like we don't really have a shot.
So even if we do put our best foot forward,
it might not be enough. We're just gonna have to
leave it at that because if the event comes back,
it should be coming back because New Zealand wants to
make money off the event, nothing else.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah. So again I asked a question, how will I me, Glenn?
How will I make money? Me? Personally? Are my text
is going to go down and my rate's going to
go down? What is in it for me if we
host the America's Kafier again? I think they often they tried.
(08:04):
I don't get me wrong. I love a restaurant or
a bar or whatever down at the I think that's great.
What's in it for me?
Speaker 8 (08:15):
So?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I hope that my husking is not listening. I also
I hope that Pete Montgomery's not listening because he really
seems to love it. Boy boy, he loves it, doesn't
He's a whole industry, you could say that that's behind
it and thrives, particularly in Auckland, off the back of it. Peter,
we have more than.
Speaker 9 (08:31):
The whole industry, more than just a tourism industry and
fans coming to fill hotel rooms or whatever, and more
than sale makers and spa makers. There's been a byproduct
that's come out of it that no other sport brings,
and I think that that there's an important factor. I
(08:53):
mean here ten years it well, Inyos had Messidi's Formula one,
ALINGI had Red Bull Formula one, Lula Rossa had Ferrari
Formal one, and Team New Zealand didn't have any of that.
And yet they had blokes with the brains and the
width to be able to do that, particularly with their foils,
(09:15):
but no one's giving them any credit for that. It's more, well,
I don't want the America's Cup to come to New
Zealand because it's cost you know, rich white, wealthy people
they can pay their own way, when in fact it's
creating a whole bunch of jobs and income in an
area that people are not aware of.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay, maybe I'm just not aware of them. Maybe I'm
not the stuff going on that I'm not aware of,
and that is how it's personally going to benefit me personally. Okay,
News talk has it been right so nearly fireworks time,
which is probably the stupidest time of the year in
(09:56):
any ways, I'm against them, primarily because I go to
bed shortly out at eight o'clock at night because they
could get up early in the morning and around fire
week's time going to sleep good. That sounds like we'll
be a fregainger around is this? I know that some
people's dogs go crazy, and that's why there's a petition going.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
Animates the pet shop have started a campaign to get
rid of fireworks, and part of me thought, big call
for a commercial organization getting involved in trying to get
something banned. And the last person that was outspoken about
(10:41):
fireworks was the warehouse, and they took the moral high
brow and said they're going to stop selling them. I
just wondered whether they're regretting that, considering their fiscal returns
don't look that good. It looks like it's touch and
go whether the warehouse is going.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
To be around.
Speaker 8 (11:00):
So yeah, I suppose Animates to be fair, they are
a pet shop, so they know their market. But I
thought was a strange thing to get involved with. I
went to their online petition. They haven't and there have
a huge number of signatures, about two thousand, but I
think you can get your pets to sign it as well.
They are taking poor prints.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
I suppose that could be quite powerful at Parliament. Or
the poor prints of dogs.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
My dog doesn't seem particularly fast about it. In fact,
when we get bad thunderstorms that seems to bother him
more so. I think we should definitely ban those as
well while we're at it. But yes, that is quite cute,
doesn't it, having a petition with a bunch of four
points on it. As long as the poor prints are
(11:57):
like fingerprints, are they like? No two are executed the same,
Know what they are? Maybe they are. I'll leave you
with that we think about and we'll come back from
our stop thinking for ten fifteen minutes or so. This
podcast place the no thinking.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Zone se News Talk is Talking zid bean. For more
from News Talk zied B listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk SEDB, You Talk Said.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glenn Hart, and we
are looking back at Monday. Marcus wants a word on fireworks,
because yes, that's coming up, and we always have lots
of words on fireworks at this time of year, don't we.
But before any of that, a few fireworks around the
(00:46):
place over the America's Cup. Personally, I find it interesting
that the biggest talking point is not the fact that
we won it, but are they ever going to bring
it back here? Interesting? Isn't it? That seems to be
the number one issue.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I think we've all grown up and got past the
whole Old New Zealand's sailors should simply sail for the
love of their country. Remember the Black Hearts campaign just
about tour Z be apart, you know, so at costs
and Emirates Team New Zealand will make whoever wants to
(01:29):
host it pay through the nose for the privilege of
doing so. Is now the right time, doesn't appear to be.
The only thing I'd say in it's favor is that
we've got all that infrastructure there at the viaduct, it's
not being used. It would be at about forty percent capacity,
which is a damn shame. Everything was built and nobody
(01:54):
came because of the extraordinary times. So it would be
nice to see that that investment could be used, could
be capitalized upon. But right now, I would say hosting
a defense of the America's Cup would be and then
(02:16):
nice to have category not in the It is absolutely
imperative that we do so.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Category to the Around the World Race because that used
to stop in at the viaduct as well. That was
quite fun popping down and even I look at all
the different because you know, there were different sort of
classes of boats and and you know, and they'd be
end for quite a while. I did that happened to that?
(02:46):
Is it because we'd stop smoking? Is that why it was?
The wet bread, wasn't it? I think it was something
to do with smoking news talk bean. Yeah, I just
got a bit despective there thinking of fun times I've
had down at the viaducts, and I do remember wandering
around looking at the round the world boats probably actually
(03:09):
enjoyed that more than I did the America's carts. An
it's such a strange fort and all that, you know
the other, all the challenges raise against each other to
then and then the holder only gets to go at the.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
End of the thread.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
The whole thing is so weird, isn't it? So people
still want it?
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Apparently, how much would you be happy with New Zealand
putting into it governmental spending, either council or general government.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
I think they've just got to weigh up how much
it wouldn't packed our economy by having it here. I
mean apparently you know they've made over a billion dollars
in Spain from it on revenue. So I think you've
just got to wait out.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Do you believe those ruth whenever I hear them. I'm
not sure quite how it works. You say this put
this much into the economy, this many people watched it
around the world. You want to know the exis, Zach.
If you could know the exact money going out and
money come back in a very sort of sober investment
(04:18):
sort of strategy, that would be good.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Yeah, And I'll just Helen Clark mentioned she threw out
some numbers here that and I'll just read the quote here.
So an economic impact assessment found the government's investment over
the four year cup cycle this is when she was
in government, and they paid thirty six million dollars to
keep it here added an extra sixty two to seventy
four million to gross domestic product GDP.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Well, I hope Mike Hosking wasn't listening to that. He
gets very angry with people's start quoting Helen clarkas. But
she rang up the station and wanted to have their say.
And also I was thinking about this yesterday. You know,
they're talking about the government putting money into it and
(05:03):
the council, the Auckland Council putting money into it. And
I get that it brings money, and you know, there's
always this argument that it brings you more money in
than what they spent, but the council doesn't necessarily get
that money back very directly, you know what I mean,
Like because a bar or a restaurant down at the
(05:24):
viaduct does three times the business because the Americans caps
it here, that doesn't does that bring our rates bills down?
I don't know that it does, does it? I mean
I'm a bit biased because I've always had a bit
of a problem with the America's Cup, even before the
whole black Cat thing and they took it off to Switzerland,
(05:49):
which was that was a weird turn of events itself.
But you know that whole how much of it, Remember
the days with Dennis Connor and all the rest of it,
and just be in the court room all the time
talking about how big a boat should be and all
the ridiculous to try marine versus a super big boat. Oh,
(06:14):
it's so stupid anyway, how does hear the feel?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
And it's a business decision for New Zealand as well,
and we should be prepared to pay to host the
America's Cup, but no more than we can make of it.
There's no point whatso we ever in losing money on
the America's Cup, which is what happened last time around
when we lost one hundred and fifty million bucks plus,
which to be fair, was exacerbated by COVID. But we
shouldn't be expecting some sort of a favor from Grant
because Grant is a Kiwi citizen and we're a bunch
(06:39):
of Kiwis. If we accept it's a business decision. We're
going to have to strip out the lingering anger that
we appear to have at Grant Dalton's attitude in his
way of going about stuff. We have to strip out
the nonsense about sailing being an elitist sport. It may
or may not be, but it's also something we're just
damned good at and we should be proud of. And
we also have to strip out any kind of sentimentality
(06:59):
that we deserve to have some sort of a nice
event here. You don't deserve to have a nice event
if it's going to cost us millions and millions and
millions and millions of dollars that we do not have
because we're broke. This is a transaction in which we
want to make money. We want to come out in
the black on this one. And then on top of
all of that, we have to accept another fact, which
is we're playing with the big boys. Now, we're playing
with the Saudi Arabias and the Barcelonas, and some of
(07:21):
those guys have got very deep pockets. And it already sounds,
if you listen to the people in Team New Zealand,
it already sounds like we don't really have a shot.
So even if we do put our best foot forward,
it might not be enough. We're just gonna have to
leave it at that because if the event comes back,
it should be coming back because New Zealand wants to
make money off the event, nothing else.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah. So again I asked a question, how will I me, Glenn?
How will I make money? Me? Personally? Are my text
is going to go down and my rate's going to
go down? What is in it for me if we
host the America's Kafier again? I think they often they tried.
(08:04):
I don't get me wrong. I love a restaurant or
a bar or whatever down at the I think that's great.
What's in it for me?
Speaker 8 (08:15):
So?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I hope that my husking is not listening. I also
I hope that Pete Montgomery's not listening because he really
seems to love it. Boy boy, he loves it, doesn't
He's a whole industry, you could say that that's behind
it and thrives, particularly in Auckland, off the back of it. Peter,
we have more than.
Speaker 9 (08:31):
The whole industry, more than just a tourism industry and
fans coming to fill hotel rooms or whatever, and more
than sale makers and spa makers. There's been a byproduct
that's come out of it that no other sport brings,
and I think that that there's an important factor. I
(08:53):
mean here ten years it well, Inyos had Messidi's Formula one,
ALINGI had Red Bull Formula one, Lula Rossa had Ferrari
Formal one, and Team New Zealand didn't have any of that.
And yet they had blokes with the brains and the
width to be able to do that, particularly with their foils,
(09:15):
but no one's giving them any credit for that. It's more, well,
I don't want the America's Cup to come to New
Zealand because it's cost you know, rich white, wealthy people
they can pay their own way, when in fact it's
creating a whole bunch of jobs and income in an
area that people are not aware of.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay, maybe I'm just not aware of them. Maybe I'm
not the stuff going on that I'm not aware of,
and that is how it's personally going to benefit me personally. Okay,
News talk has it been right so nearly fireworks time,
which is probably the stupidest time of the year in
(09:56):
any ways, I'm against them, primarily because I go to
bed shortly out at eight o'clock at night because they
could get up early in the morning and around fire
week's time going to sleep good. That sounds like we'll
be a fregainger around is this? I know that some
people's dogs go crazy, and that's why there's a petition going.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
Animates the pet shop have started a campaign to get
rid of fireworks, and part of me thought, big call
for a commercial organization getting involved in trying to get
something banned. And the last person that was outspoken about
(10:41):
fireworks was the warehouse, and they took the moral high
brow and said they're going to stop selling them. I
just wondered whether they're regretting that, considering their fiscal returns
don't look that good. It looks like it's touch and
go whether the warehouse is going.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
To be around.
Speaker 8 (11:00):
So yeah, I suppose Animates to be fair, they are
a pet shop, so they know their market. But I
thought was a strange thing to get involved with. I
went to their online petition. They haven't and there have
a huge number of signatures, about two thousand, but I
think you can get your pets to sign it as well.
They are taking poor prints.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
I suppose that could be quite powerful at Parliament. Or
the poor prints of dogs.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
My dog doesn't seem particularly fast about it. In fact,
when we get bad thunderstorms that seems to bother him
more so. I think we should definitely ban those as
well while we're at it. But yes, that is quite cute,
doesn't it, having a petition with a bunch of four
points on it. As long as the poor prints are
(11:57):
like fingerprints, are they like? No two are executed the same,
Know what they are? Maybe they are. I'll leave you
with that we think about and we'll come back from
our stop thinking for ten fifteen minutes or so. This
podcast place the no thinking.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
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