November 4, 2024 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Just As Well He's Such a Great Guy/Why We Don't Go to the Dentist/The Customer Is Always Right/Allowed to Watch Sport/Fireworks Are Just So Dumb
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean
for Tuesday. First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart,
and we are looking back at Monday, where once again
we seem to be discussing the idea of universal dental
care for all, which every time we've talked about it
has never happened, So I'm not quite sure why it
(00:41):
would happen now, our voters, customers, interesting question, which sport
did you watch over the weekend? Not all of it
was at a convenient time, of course, And we'll just
continue this fireworks debate, and much like the free dental debate,
I think it will just go on forever. But before
(01:02):
any of that, a quick head on the US election, right,
who's going to win? So we know, so we'd have
to pay attention to it over the next forty eight
seventy two hours.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
They also included seven hundred thousand people who never voted
in twenty twenty. Now why would they be voting this
time around? You could say it might be the fact
it's you know a female, a woman of color that
they wanted to elect, but the polls show the more
likely motivation is financial. You feel poor, pissed off, and
you vote the current lot out, be it Biden or Harris. Plus,
(01:34):
Harris hasn't helped herself swearing black and blue that Bidenomics
is working when people know in their pockets that it's not.
Blindly defending Biden's mental state despite everyone thinking he's gone
do lally and it's sort of reminiscent actually that of
Jacinda Durne. Remember here she refused to call the constant
living crisis a crisis, despite the fact it's like the
(01:56):
toughest economic period in a generation. It enrages people when
you do that, and calling Trump a Nazi or a
fascist isn't going to stop him because people don't vote
for Trump because he's a saint. Do They add to
that the fact that the markets are pricing in a
Trump victory, the fact he always does better on election
day than in the polls because his voters don't like polsters,
(02:16):
and that while he's not a head in the popular vote,
his polling now is higher at the stage of the
campaign than when he won in twenty sixteen. Add those
things together, you have a pretty strong case. I think
that Donald Trump is going to take back the White
House this week.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, I've got a feeling that's true, and I'm not
super delighted about it, just based on the fact that
he is a convicted felon for electoral fraud over election finances,
(02:54):
and he's also been found guilty in a civil sexual
assault case. Those are the two main reasons I've got.
I mean, there are a lot of other reasons to
not like Donald Trump, but those are like the hard facts,
and you can agree or disagree with the verdicts in
those cases, but as they stand at the moment, guilty anyway.
(03:23):
It doesn't matter, eh, News talk Ze bean Ry. Are
we going to get to go to the deaths to
free No? If we're not, but some people would like
us to be able to, I'm sure they would. It's
never gonna happen, is it?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Is it a case of having to come up with
the money so we save money down the track. Do
you buy even if you don't buy those exact figures,
do you buy that having a universal dental healthcare system
would save us money in the long run? Or is
(03:58):
it something that you just have to deal with yourself.
Pray that your parents gifted you good teeth.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
God.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Back in the old days, the old and olden days,
like the forties, fifties, and sixties, women used to have
their teeth taken up before they got married and fitted
with dentchers so they didn't cost their husbands anything. Can
you imagine perfectly healthy teeth being ripped out of the
mouth of a nineteen year old recently engaged woman as
(04:29):
a kind of dowry paid for by the bride's family.
I mean, it sounds macabre and archaic, and it's quite
tread and happened to everyone, but to a lot of
young women, they had their teeth ripped out and fitted
with dentchers, and they're late teen's, early twenties so that
their husband didn't have to pay for their dental care.
We don't want to get back to that now, do we.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It's hard, isn't it. I mean, because speaking of behalf
of me, I won't go to the dentist unless I
absolutely feel like I have to. It's just so bloody
expenses and one day. I mean, I've been okay so far,
used to have perfect teeth when I was young, that's likely.
(05:10):
That's perfect now. But unless I've got a bit of pain,
I'm not going. And if it was free, I would
go regularly. Like you said, the problem is that when
people go too often it was free. M that's tricky.
I don't know where all this money is going to
come from. That's the really tricky part. How do you
(05:33):
feel about it as a customer of the government. We're customers?
Is that really what coves Relux and said anyway, does
it matter if he thinks of this as customers are
not voters?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
If anything, Actually, it's not a bad thing for politicians
to see us as customers, customers who will only come
back for more from what you're selling. If you give
us what we want, policies that we like, promises that
are delivered, not broken, and so on and so on.
What's the problem for a voter and that that's awesome.
You vote for a party, you get what you want.
That is arguably the opposite of what the last labor government.
(06:07):
Just by con I just want to draw contrast for you.
It's the opposite of what the last labor government was
doing the entire time on for example, crime. We kept saying,
as the customers Hey, can you just, you know, like
go a little bit harder on the gangs. And they
kept saying, no, you're wrong, you're not imagining it. We
are going there's no crime, We're going out on gangs.
And so in the end, what happened is the customers
we bug it off, didn't we They would have had
(06:28):
a better showing at the last election if they remembered
the mantra the customer is always right. So a whole
bunch of customers didn't come back for more at the
last election. Now, also, while we're on the subject, Luxon
needs to stop apologizing for corporate speech he brings. I mean,
some of the best stuff that he is doing at
the moment is when he brings a corporate approach to
it. It says, quarterly targets for the government managing the various
(06:49):
factions in the coalition, effectively trying to get efficiencies out
of the public service. Here is a manager. He's good
at being a manager. He needs to lean into that. Yep.
Sometimes obviously you're going to want less transaction and more
principle in politics. But ultimately Luxn's onto something.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Here.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Here's a guy selling us a product. His products the
National Party. We are customers. We want what we want
out of the National Party or who Weather is selling
us their policies, and being seen as customers is not
altogether a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
The customer is always right?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Right? Is the photo always right?
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Though?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And also we can't all be right, can we? And
now I've started thinking about it the other way around,
like can all customers be right? Because you know two
different customers will have opposite ideas about things. Love this
podcast is really doing my head in this morning, my
(07:43):
messive weekende for sports, I don't know there was a
lot of sport, but there was a lot of interesting sport.
I thought it was anyway, and the mat and the
Tyler think it was interesting and interesting enough to get
up in the middle of the night.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
For how great is it sitting your alarm and getting
up to watch the All Blacks in the middle of
the night. You've got to have the hot chocolate, you've
got to take the blanky, and you've got to get
up even though it really really hurts, and you have
those thoughts. I watch the replay, No, you just feel
so good when you get on their couch. You sit
down and watch the game. Patriot, especially a crack a
game like that and awesome to see the All Blacks
winning those close ones again because that's that's the really
(08:24):
good teams. They're not the best team we've ever had,
but they're finding a way to win. And boy, oh boy,
what a great game.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
That was great game to watch.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Can I admit something though, what I didn't get up?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Trade it? Trade hate your country for a yem?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I mean like it's not a World Cup.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Well maybe we have a chat about that a little
bit later on.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
But what a game.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And then the black Caps as well, oh.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
Yeah, and is there anything better than running a barbecue
where you've got the cricket cricket on and what a
phenomenal what a phenomenal win. Is this our greatest ever
cricket result?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Well, definitely for cricket, well over the World Test Championship.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yep, you reckon it is?
Speaker 7 (08:58):
Yeah, I think it is.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:59):
Is it our greatest ever sporting result ever? Does it
surpass climbing Mount Everest?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It's you reckon?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Get the black Caps.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
So there's five million versus one point four to four billion,
so they have two hundred and eighty eight times our
population and they're completely obsessed with cricket. Yes, this hasn't
happened in ninety one years of India playing Test cricket
at home, Australia hasn't done it. So is it our
greatest ever sporting achievement. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I felt pretty you reckon it is. It's pretty close.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
It should be pretty close to number one of all time.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
It felt felt that way yesterday, felt that way yesterday.
I've got that last one.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I mean. The good thing about the end of the
cricket was that that happened at a quite a convenient time,
even though it was an India it was you know,
you could actually watch that. They're not just inconvenience yourself
too much. On a Sunday evening, I had it sneakily
on on my phone while I was barbecuing dinner. Not
(09:59):
that I'm living in a climate affair where I'm not
allowed to watch the sport that I want to watch,
of course, but I certainly wouldn't get up in the
middle of the night. I know those days are long ago.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
News talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Especially if you've been kept awable night with explosions and
bright lights.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Marcus fireworks displays at public events with a spectator extravaganza
of pyrotechnics is reasonable, but having fireworks available to the
public is a bad idea. Commy, Yeah, I think, I mean, yeah,
I stok it slightly irritated by the fireworks discussion because
I think for a lot of people, the whole fireworks
(10:39):
was probably one of the most enjoyable moments of their childhood.
It really seemed to be kind of summer coming along
barbecue's backyard. I mean, it was a fantastic coming together
of different ideas. But then of course they got rid
(11:00):
of the rockets and the bangers, and you now cannot
set them off at public reserves. And people have changed.
We used to all have quarter quarteraker sections. A lot
of people now live in an apartment and stuff like that.
So I think, you know, as the way we become
more urbanized. I think over the years, fireworks will peter out.
(11:25):
I think in twenty years, she's gone ten years maybe,
and maybe we're out growing it. I don't know. I
think it's but yeah, I'm not so. And I don't
think any government would want to ban it because people
have avery dim view of governments. I mean, there's no votes.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
In banning fireworks.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
To put it that way.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
No one's going to say lux and I'm going to
give you another go before you ban because you banned
Guy Fawkes. People don't like politicians interfering. That's my take
on this one.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I just I've never heard an argument, a cogent, reasonable
argument for the in favor of the private sale of
five the sale of fire weeks of private citizens. It
makes no sense to me at all. Why do we
still do it. It's the dumbest thing ever. And I've just
(12:14):
never heard anybody say anything that's even remotely logical or
reasonable in favor of it. It's just so dumb. Since
the guy who has to get up at ten to
three in the morning to go to work and I'll
be here early again tomorrow morning with another News Talks
You've been to you then news talk has talking?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Has it been?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
For? More from news Talk? Said b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean
for Tuesday. First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart,
and we are looking back at Monday, where once again
we seem to be discussing the idea of universal dental
care for all, which every time we've talked about it
has never happened, So I'm not quite sure why it
(00:41):
would happen now, our voters, customers, interesting question, which sport
did you watch over the weekend? Not all of it
was at a convenient time, of course, And we'll just
continue this fireworks debate, and much like the free dental debate,
I think it will just go on forever. But before
(01:02):
any of that, a quick head on the US election, right,
who's going to win? So we know, so we'd have
to pay attention to it over the next forty eight
seventy two hours.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
They also included seven hundred thousand people who never voted
in twenty twenty. Now why would they be voting this
time around? You could say it might be the fact
it's you know a female, a woman of color that
they wanted to elect, but the polls show the more
likely motivation is financial. You feel poor, pissed off, and
you vote the current lot out, be it Biden or Harris. Plus,
(01:34):
Harris hasn't helped herself swearing black and blue that Bidenomics
is working when people know in their pockets that it's not.
Blindly defending Biden's mental state despite everyone thinking he's gone
do lally and it's sort of reminiscent actually that of
Jacinda Durne. Remember here she refused to call the constant
living crisis a crisis, despite the fact it's like the
(01:56):
toughest economic period in a generation. It enrages people when
you do that, and calling Trump a Nazi or a
fascist isn't going to stop him because people don't vote
for Trump because he's a saint. Do They add to
that the fact that the markets are pricing in a
Trump victory, the fact he always does better on election
day than in the polls because his voters don't like polsters,
(02:16):
and that while he's not a head in the popular vote,
his polling now is higher at the stage of the
campaign than when he won in twenty sixteen. Add those
things together, you have a pretty strong case. I think
that Donald Trump is going to take back the White
House this week.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, I've got a feeling that's true, and I'm not
super delighted about it, just based on the fact that
he is a convicted felon for electoral fraud over election finances,
(02:54):
and he's also been found guilty in a civil sexual
assault case. Those are the two main reasons I've got.
I mean, there are a lot of other reasons to
not like Donald Trump, but those are like the hard facts,
and you can agree or disagree with the verdicts in
those cases, but as they stand at the moment, guilty anyway.
(03:23):
It doesn't matter, eh, News talk Ze bean Ry. Are
we going to get to go to the deaths to
free No? If we're not, but some people would like
us to be able to, I'm sure they would. It's
never gonna happen, is it?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Is it a case of having to come up with
the money so we save money down the track. Do
you buy even if you don't buy those exact figures,
do you buy that having a universal dental healthcare system
would save us money in the long run? Or is
(03:58):
it something that you just have to deal with yourself.
Pray that your parents gifted you good teeth.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
God.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Back in the old days, the old and olden days,
like the forties, fifties, and sixties, women used to have
their teeth taken up before they got married and fitted
with dentchers so they didn't cost their husbands anything. Can
you imagine perfectly healthy teeth being ripped out of the
mouth of a nineteen year old recently engaged woman as
(04:29):
a kind of dowry paid for by the bride's family.
I mean, it sounds macabre and archaic, and it's quite
tread and happened to everyone, but to a lot of
young women, they had their teeth ripped out and fitted
with dentchers, and they're late teen's, early twenties so that
their husband didn't have to pay for their dental care.
We don't want to get back to that now, do we.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It's hard, isn't it. I mean, because speaking of behalf
of me, I won't go to the dentist unless I
absolutely feel like I have to. It's just so bloody
expenses and one day. I mean, I've been okay so far,
used to have perfect teeth when I was young, that's likely.
(05:10):
That's perfect now. But unless I've got a bit of pain,
I'm not going. And if it was free, I would
go regularly. Like you said, the problem is that when
people go too often it was free. M that's tricky.
I don't know where all this money is going to
come from. That's the really tricky part. How do you
(05:33):
feel about it as a customer of the government. We're customers?
Is that really what coves Relux and said anyway, does
it matter if he thinks of this as customers are
not voters?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
If anything, Actually, it's not a bad thing for politicians
to see us as customers, customers who will only come
back for more from what you're selling. If you give
us what we want, policies that we like, promises that
are delivered, not broken, and so on and so on.
What's the problem for a voter and that that's awesome.
You vote for a party, you get what you want.
That is arguably the opposite of what the last labor government.
(06:07):
Just by con I just want to draw contrast for you.
It's the opposite of what the last labor government was
doing the entire time on for example, crime. We kept saying,
as the customers Hey, can you just, you know, like
go a little bit harder on the gangs. And they
kept saying, no, you're wrong, you're not imagining it. We
are going there's no crime, We're going out on gangs.
And so in the end, what happened is the customers
we bug it off, didn't we They would have had
(06:28):
a better showing at the last election if they remembered
the mantra the customer is always right. So a whole
bunch of customers didn't come back for more at the
last election. Now, also, while we're on the subject, Luxon
needs to stop apologizing for corporate speech he brings. I mean,
some of the best stuff that he is doing at
the moment is when he brings a corporate approach to
it. It says, quarterly targets for the government managing the various
(06:49):
factions in the coalition, effectively trying to get efficiencies out
of the public service. Here is a manager. He's good
at being a manager. He needs to lean into that. Yep.
Sometimes obviously you're going to want less transaction and more
principle in politics. But ultimately Luxn's onto something.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Here.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Here's a guy selling us a product. His products the
National Party. We are customers. We want what we want
out of the National Party or who Weather is selling
us their policies, and being seen as customers is not
altogether a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
The customer is always right?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Right? Is the photo always right?
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Though?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And also we can't all be right, can we? And
now I've started thinking about it the other way around,
like can all customers be right? Because you know two
different customers will have opposite ideas about things. Love this
podcast is really doing my head in this morning, my
(07:43):
messive weekende for sports, I don't know there was a
lot of sport, but there was a lot of interesting sport.
I thought it was anyway, and the mat and the
Tyler think it was interesting and interesting enough to get
up in the middle of the night.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
For how great is it sitting your alarm and getting
up to watch the All Blacks in the middle of
the night. You've got to have the hot chocolate, you've
got to take the blanky, and you've got to get
up even though it really really hurts, and you have
those thoughts. I watch the replay, No, you just feel
so good when you get on their couch. You sit
down and watch the game. Patriot, especially a crack a
game like that and awesome to see the All Blacks
winning those close ones again because that's that's the really
(08:24):
good teams. They're not the best team we've ever had,
but they're finding a way to win. And boy, oh boy,
what a great game.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
That was great game to watch.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Can I admit something though, what I didn't get up?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Trade it? Trade hate your country for a yem?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I mean like it's not a World Cup.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Well maybe we have a chat about that a little
bit later on.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
But what a game.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And then the black Caps as well, oh.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
Yeah, and is there anything better than running a barbecue
where you've got the cricket cricket on and what a
phenomenal what a phenomenal win. Is this our greatest ever
cricket result?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Well, definitely for cricket, well over the World Test Championship.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yep, you reckon it is?
Speaker 7 (08:58):
Yeah, I think it is.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:59):
Is it our greatest ever sporting result ever? Does it
surpass climbing Mount Everest?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It's you reckon?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Get the black Caps.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
So there's five million versus one point four to four billion,
so they have two hundred and eighty eight times our
population and they're completely obsessed with cricket. Yes, this hasn't
happened in ninety one years of India playing Test cricket
at home, Australia hasn't done it. So is it our
greatest ever sporting achievement. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I felt pretty you reckon it is. It's pretty close.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
It should be pretty close to number one of all time.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
It felt felt that way yesterday, felt that way yesterday.
I've got that last one.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I mean. The good thing about the end of the
cricket was that that happened at a quite a convenient time,
even though it was an India it was you know,
you could actually watch that. They're not just inconvenience yourself
too much. On a Sunday evening, I had it sneakily
on on my phone while I was barbecuing dinner. Not
(09:59):
that I'm living in a climate affair where I'm not
allowed to watch the sport that I want to watch,
of course, but I certainly wouldn't get up in the
middle of the night. I know those days are long ago.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
News talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Especially if you've been kept awable night with explosions and
bright lights.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Marcus fireworks displays at public events with a spectator extravaganza
of pyrotechnics is reasonable, but having fireworks available to the
public is a bad idea. Commy, Yeah, I think, I mean, yeah,
I stok it slightly irritated by the fireworks discussion because
I think for a lot of people, the whole fireworks
(10:39):
was probably one of the most enjoyable moments of their childhood.
It really seemed to be kind of summer coming along
barbecue's backyard. I mean, it was a fantastic coming together
of different ideas. But then of course they got rid
(11:00):
of the rockets and the bangers, and you now cannot
set them off at public reserves. And people have changed.
We used to all have quarter quarteraker sections. A lot
of people now live in an apartment and stuff like that.
So I think, you know, as the way we become
more urbanized. I think over the years, fireworks will peter out.
(11:25):
I think in twenty years, she's gone ten years maybe,
and maybe we're out growing it. I don't know. I
think it's but yeah, I'm not so. And I don't
think any government would want to ban it because people
have avery dim view of governments. I mean, there's no votes.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
In banning fireworks.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
To put it that way.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
No one's going to say lux and I'm going to
give you another go before you ban because you banned
Guy Fawkes. People don't like politicians interfering. That's my take
on this one.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I just I've never heard an argument, a cogent, reasonable
argument for the in favor of the private sale of
five the sale of fire weeks of private citizens. It
makes no sense to me at all. Why do we
still do it. It's the dumbest thing ever. And I've just
(12:14):
never heard anybody say anything that's even remotely logical or
reasonable in favor of it. It's just so dumb. Since
the guy who has to get up at ten to
three in the morning to go to work and I'll
be here early again tomorrow morning with another News Talks
You've been to you then news talk has talking?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Has it been?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
For? More from news Talk? Said b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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