November 13, 2024 • 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart and we
are looking back at Wednesday and it's a it's a
gang crackdown arama. It's one of my favorite aramas, your
Operation Nickel, and we'll also be getting into gang patches
(00:45):
with Matt and Tyler as well. Cold Cold plays in town,
but he Awkan didn't put on some nicer weather for them.
But they've got a couple of concerts left to get
it right. But first up, Yeah, this this hakoi. Where
does the right to protest end and public nuisance start.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's one of the prices we must pay for living
in a democracy. I know this won't be popular with
Aucklanders this morning or others around the country where this
hikoy is heading, but it's a cost we must bear.
They're closing two lanes of the Harbor Bridge this morning,
and if you've got kids getting to an NCAA exam,
then you will be fuming about this. But let's remember
(01:31):
this is a one off protest. It's not like those
dickheads from the Public Rail or whatever they were in Wellington,
remember them. They repeatedly shut down the motorways. They did
it time and time again. They repeatedly stopped the ambulances
from getting to call outs, the kidney patients from getting
to dialysis. They deserved to be swept to the curb,
and it seems like for the most part they have been,
(01:52):
which is a good thing. This is a one off
from a group of people who feel, rightly or wrongly,
that they're getting a hard time from this government. They
feel they're not being heard in our democracy, and whether
you agree with that or not is besides the point.
The point is we live in a democracy and the
right to protest is well a right. It can be
(02:13):
an annoying one, but the minute you say you can't
do it, we all lose. If we learned anything through COVID,
it's that this whole system is rather fragile. When people
feel ostracized or maligned, we do better to listen rather
than suppress and silence debate and dissent.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Talk about hot debate. The subject of the hikoy was
raised in my house last night. Primarily because I made
a terrible decision on my way home from work yesterday.
I go home from work to mid morning, early mid morning,
(02:57):
and yes, it happened to coincide exactly as the Hakoi
was very very very slowly making its way over the
harbor of Bridge. I'll talk more about that shortly.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
News talk set.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Been interesting in the meantime, though, to hear what heathers
their views are on TIKOI.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
They are already all over all of the online news feeds,
are being covered by radio shows like ours today that
will be all over the TV news for multiple stories
undoubtedly tonight. Because the protest is big, and because it
is about a very contentious issue, being the Treaty Principals Bill,
these guys did not have to muck auckland Is around
to get the kind of coverage that they probably want
to get now. Ultimately, I don't think this is a
(03:42):
smart move from them, just like I don't think it's
a smart move to have gang members joining the he
Cooy with their patches on display just days out from
the gang patch band, which indicates that people hate seeing
these patches there. They are just wandering down with the
Hecoy all this is going to do is frustrate Middle
New Zealand and make Middle New Zealand more sympathetic to
the other side, because that is how politics works nowadays.
(04:03):
We pick sides, we don't like that side, we go
to the other side. That's generally how it works. So
all they've done is have just sent people to the
other side. That's ultimately an own goal, because the only
hope that David Seymour has for his bill at the
moment is that it becomes so popular that it has
to survive, that it has to be rescued. That the
Nats changed their mind on killing it, and this hiccore
I reckon will not have hurt his chances at all.
(04:23):
So listen to people planning future protests. Try to not
cause disruption on purpose, because that way the rest of
us are more likely to be sympathetic to your cause,
not less.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, so I got it wrong yesterday for some reason,
I looked at Google's maps. I mean, obviously I knew
this was happening. So I looked at Google Maps and
it said that it going by the Northwestern Motorway, which
is an option for me. As I went my way
back up north to the beautiful hibiscus post where it's
(04:53):
perfect beautiful one day in thut of the next and
it was said it was going to take about seven
minutes longer if I went that way, and I thought, ah, yeah,
or they they've closed off two lanes of the Harbor Bridge.
There'll be a bit of queuing, but it sounds like
(05:15):
it's still going to be quicker to go that that way.
I don't know why I thought that was a good idea,
So anyway, obviously I was a bit frustrated by the
time I got onto the bridge, and it was interesting,
on reflection, I found myself not so frustrated with the
people doing the hakoi themselves, but all the media people
(05:37):
there with their cameras and their microphones, because of course
they are the ones who are really were fueling this.
It's here they pointed out there. If everybody had just
ignored it, it's not a very effective protest, But as
soon as everybody goes crazy on it, then it becomes
more effective. What made it less effective was when I
(06:01):
was on various different social media throughout the day. He
had people like Willie Jackson say let's get rid of
the silly government like that, all words to that effect,
And I don't know that that's what the heckoy is about,
even that we're a long way away from an election.
I don't think the heck boy has the power to
(06:22):
get rid of the government. So if even Willie Jackson
didn't know what the Heckoy was about, I wonder how
many of the other thousands of people who were standing
on the bridge shuffling forward, as I say, very slowly
and split up into separate groups as well, which I
understand what was going on there. Yeah, So, as always
(06:46):
with these things, interesting to know exactly how many people
involved really know what the issues are that they're protesting about.
Hu's talk, Sid boy, don't try and say that in
my house, because then you get to get into a
massive argument about the right to grow gesto or not.
Moving on though, to gangs, you've got absolutely nothing to
(07:11):
do with that, and there's been a big crackdown operation Nicolas. Well,
that's quite a full name.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
You've got the mongrel mob Kingdom, remember them? How frequent caller?
What's her name? They hired a PR woman, Louise.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Louise.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Haven't heard from her in a while. She's been lying
very low, probably because the mongrel Moob Kingdom turned out
to be wolves in sheep's clothing. If you're going to
be a gang, be a gang, be done with it,
sell your drugs, live your life. It's basically a pyramid
scheme to the young ones who are thinking, should I
get a nine to five, which is really hard and
(07:52):
you have to get up five days a week, or
should I go and sell drugs for the gangs. It's
a pyramid scheme. Only a few get really really rich.
If you're a grunt at the bottom, you get the abuse,
you get the jail terms, you get very little money.
You might get a few baubles of trinkets from the
top guys, and that's about it. It's a misogynist. If
(08:14):
you're looking for diversity, equality and what is it d whatever,
you're going to struggle to find that in a gang.
They don't seem to have places for women. You can
work under them, but not in the way you might
want to just be a gang and be a crim
and be done with it. You can't have your cake
(08:36):
and eat it too, or renounce the patch and the
crime and come join us. It's not that bad, it
really really isn't. You don't have to join the gang.
There are other options, but for God's sake, don't dress
(08:57):
yourself up and pretend that you're decent people rarely providing
an alternative to the wayward in the forlorn that the
patriarchal oppressive government has failed to provide. That is total
b s.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It's an interesting turn a phrase. Dress yourself up. I
sometimes think it is weird dress ups, you know, driving
around on your silly motorbikes with the impractical handlebars in
your silly outfits. How is that tough?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Actually?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Speaking of gang pictures, Matt and Tyler, we're speaking of
gang patches.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Literally, have people decide, as Craig says, it's gone too
far and the wrong people are being targeted and the
mood in the nation changes, or then a new government
might just go along with that mood in the nation.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Well, okay, So you say that you're not Tyler, You
say that you're not specifically intimidated, and you don't experience gangs,
and it's not a problem for you, right.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Not on a day to day basis.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
No, But knowing that there are gangs out there, how
do you feel about the gangs?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I don't like them, You don't like them, no.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
Right, And do you think that there are a problem
in New Zealand society?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:08):
Absolutely, okay, So do you think that the police need
to do something about it?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
And so from the police's perspective and from the government's perspective,
this is a tool to do something about it.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
And if they can get into these gang houses and
they've got that opportunity to do that, I think it's
a good thing. Primarily around the drug trade. That's what
I hate most about it. And look, I'll say it
on this show that I had a cousin who was
on the periphery of the gangs, and my auntie has
had a lot to do on sort of the outskirts
of gang life, and she's pretty strong that she doesn't
like gang she doesn't like how they operate. She doesn't
(10:43):
like what happens in the community. But not all of
them are bad people, but how they operate.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
But what do you think gangs? How do you think
gangs make money?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (10:52):
From jokes, from exact crime, right, yeah, from crime? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
So yeah, So I don't know whether this is whether
this is an effective way to hit gangs or not
that that's really the question. But I think we all
agree that gangs aren't a great pathway for someone in life,
a young person going forward.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
It is a bit frustrating when you hear people say
you don't have not everybody in a gang is a
bad person. I'm pretty sure with most gangs, serious gangs,
you've got to do some pretty bad things to get
into the gang in the first place. They're saying news
talk Z been right. Let's finish up talking Coldplay. It's
(11:33):
the biggest tour ever that anybody's ever done. Three Eden
Park concerts here. I know one of my daughters was
there last night. Marcus wasn't there, he was on air.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
What do you think the first complaint will get about
Coldplay will be when the people leave the concert tonight
at ten. Will they be complaining about the trains not arriving,
or that their cars have been towed, all that it
was too loud, all that it was too quiet, or
(12:08):
that the people in front of them were dancing. That's
where it's a great one for the concerts, when appearing
to the fifties up the ground that people dance and
they can't see, I'm sure that's going to be it.
Sit down, sit down, that's probably what it'll be. I
don't know if it's seated or standing or quite what
happens on the flat of there. This is a cold
play that Eden Park tonight, there'll be three nights. They
(12:32):
have Tomorrow off, they'll go to Wahiki. I suppose to
a vineyard. It's what they seem to do on those
sorts of places. But anyway, this is cold play. If
you got involved with the traffic going there, was it smooth?
What do you think the first thing they'll complain about
will be, I reckon it will be that people were
dancing in front of them, that they weren't sitting down.
We're in the Marcus, we're in the seated stands. We
(12:53):
hardly ever go to a concert. I said to Belle,
I said, let's go. We'll fly from christ Church, will
make a week end of it. We don't have a
lot of money, but we did what we could. We've
bought tickets, we sold some shares and the power companies
we bought tickets and we're really looking forward to it.
We got there and straight away they came on and
the people in front of us were standing and we
couldn't see anything, and we can't stand up because we
(13:15):
don't feel good in that way?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Is there?
Speaker 8 (13:19):
You think what's going to be about? By the way,
the song yellow was originally called yellow Pages. Not many
people know that. In fact, I didn't know then to
about two minutes ago. But anyway, what do you think
they'll be complaining about after the concert? Normally it's about
the trains, or their cars have been towed, or the
traffic's gridlocked, or the concert's too loud. I don't think
(13:41):
they'll be complaining about people fighting in front of them,
like in Travis, because they probably won't be doing that
unless they're fighting about people dancing in front of them. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I mean, it's a good argument for more more concerts,
isn't it. And I know that they are. They've the
powers that be proved more concerts, I think in the
name because if it's happening every week and not just
every now and again, then hopefully we won't just keep
losing our minds. I'm there's a concert. I mean, we
(14:13):
seem to be able to go to the rugby when
the rugby is on. Why concerts concess becomes this whole
other thing. Don't they Let's normalize concerts because believe it
or not, it does go on pretty regularly in other
places in the world. I am glen Hart solid take beer.
(14:36):
I thought it'd be in there from me. I was
just listening back to that and thinking of that guy
knows what he's talking about. It happens once every so often,
and today was one of those days. So tomorrow it
will probably be terrible, but you know, come back, have
a listen to see what you think.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart and we
are looking back at Wednesday and it's a it's a
gang crackdown arama. It's one of my favorite aramas, your
Operation Nickel, and we'll also be getting into gang patches
(00:45):
with Matt and Tyler as well. Cold Cold plays in town,
but he Awkan didn't put on some nicer weather for them.
But they've got a couple of concerts left to get
it right. But first up, Yeah, this this hakoi. Where
does the right to protest end and public nuisance start.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's one of the prices we must pay for living
in a democracy. I know this won't be popular with
Aucklanders this morning or others around the country where this
hikoy is heading, but it's a cost we must bear.
They're closing two lanes of the Harbor Bridge this morning,
and if you've got kids getting to an NCAA exam,
then you will be fuming about this. But let's remember
(01:31):
this is a one off protest. It's not like those
dickheads from the Public Rail or whatever they were in Wellington,
remember them. They repeatedly shut down the motorways. They did
it time and time again. They repeatedly stopped the ambulances
from getting to call outs, the kidney patients from getting
to dialysis. They deserved to be swept to the curb,
and it seems like for the most part they have been,
(01:52):
which is a good thing. This is a one off
from a group of people who feel, rightly or wrongly,
that they're getting a hard time from this government. They
feel they're not being heard in our democracy, and whether
you agree with that or not is besides the point.
The point is we live in a democracy and the
right to protest is well a right. It can be
(02:13):
an annoying one, but the minute you say you can't
do it, we all lose. If we learned anything through COVID,
it's that this whole system is rather fragile. When people
feel ostracized or maligned, we do better to listen rather
than suppress and silence debate and dissent.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Talk about hot debate. The subject of the hikoy was
raised in my house last night. Primarily because I made
a terrible decision on my way home from work yesterday.
I go home from work to mid morning, early mid morning,
(02:57):
and yes, it happened to coincide exactly as the Hakoi
was very very very slowly making its way over the
harbor of Bridge. I'll talk more about that shortly.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
News talk set.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Been interesting in the meantime, though, to hear what heathers
their views are on TIKOI.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
They are already all over all of the online news feeds,
are being covered by radio shows like ours today that
will be all over the TV news for multiple stories
undoubtedly tonight. Because the protest is big, and because it
is about a very contentious issue, being the Treaty Principals Bill,
these guys did not have to muck auckland Is around
to get the kind of coverage that they probably want
to get now. Ultimately, I don't think this is a
(03:42):
smart move from them, just like I don't think it's
a smart move to have gang members joining the he
Cooy with their patches on display just days out from
the gang patch band, which indicates that people hate seeing
these patches there. They are just wandering down with the
Hecoy all this is going to do is frustrate Middle
New Zealand and make Middle New Zealand more sympathetic to
the other side, because that is how politics works nowadays.
(04:03):
We pick sides, we don't like that side, we go
to the other side. That's generally how it works. So
all they've done is have just sent people to the
other side. That's ultimately an own goal, because the only
hope that David Seymour has for his bill at the
moment is that it becomes so popular that it has
to survive, that it has to be rescued. That the
Nats changed their mind on killing it, and this hiccore
I reckon will not have hurt his chances at all.
(04:23):
So listen to people planning future protests. Try to not
cause disruption on purpose, because that way the rest of
us are more likely to be sympathetic to your cause,
not less.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, so I got it wrong yesterday for some reason,
I looked at Google's maps. I mean, obviously I knew
this was happening. So I looked at Google Maps and
it said that it going by the Northwestern Motorway, which
is an option for me. As I went my way
back up north to the beautiful hibiscus post where it's
(04:53):
perfect beautiful one day in thut of the next and
it was said it was going to take about seven
minutes longer if I went that way, and I thought, ah, yeah,
or they they've closed off two lanes of the Harbor Bridge.
There'll be a bit of queuing, but it sounds like
(05:15):
it's still going to be quicker to go that that way.
I don't know why I thought that was a good idea,
So anyway, obviously I was a bit frustrated by the
time I got onto the bridge, and it was interesting,
on reflection, I found myself not so frustrated with the
people doing the hakoi themselves, but all the media people
(05:37):
there with their cameras and their microphones, because of course
they are the ones who are really were fueling this.
It's here they pointed out there. If everybody had just
ignored it, it's not a very effective protest, But as
soon as everybody goes crazy on it, then it becomes
more effective. What made it less effective was when I
(06:01):
was on various different social media throughout the day. He
had people like Willie Jackson say let's get rid of
the silly government like that, all words to that effect,
And I don't know that that's what the heckoy is about,
even that we're a long way away from an election.
I don't think the heck boy has the power to
(06:22):
get rid of the government. So if even Willie Jackson
didn't know what the Heckoy was about, I wonder how
many of the other thousands of people who were standing
on the bridge shuffling forward, as I say, very slowly
and split up into separate groups as well, which I
understand what was going on there. Yeah, So, as always
(06:46):
with these things, interesting to know exactly how many people
involved really know what the issues are that they're protesting about.
Hu's talk, Sid boy, don't try and say that in
my house, because then you get to get into a
massive argument about the right to grow gesto or not.
Moving on though, to gangs, you've got absolutely nothing to
(07:11):
do with that, and there's been a big crackdown operation Nicolas. Well,
that's quite a full name.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
You've got the mongrel mob Kingdom, remember them? How frequent caller?
What's her name? They hired a PR woman, Louise.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Louise.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Haven't heard from her in a while. She's been lying
very low, probably because the mongrel Moob Kingdom turned out
to be wolves in sheep's clothing. If you're going to
be a gang, be a gang, be done with it,
sell your drugs, live your life. It's basically a pyramid
scheme to the young ones who are thinking, should I
get a nine to five, which is really hard and
(07:52):
you have to get up five days a week, or
should I go and sell drugs for the gangs. It's
a pyramid scheme. Only a few get really really rich.
If you're a grunt at the bottom, you get the abuse,
you get the jail terms, you get very little money.
You might get a few baubles of trinkets from the
top guys, and that's about it. It's a misogynist. If
(08:14):
you're looking for diversity, equality and what is it d whatever,
you're going to struggle to find that in a gang.
They don't seem to have places for women. You can
work under them, but not in the way you might
want to just be a gang and be a crim
and be done with it. You can't have your cake
(08:36):
and eat it too, or renounce the patch and the
crime and come join us. It's not that bad, it
really really isn't. You don't have to join the gang.
There are other options, but for God's sake, don't dress
(08:57):
yourself up and pretend that you're decent people rarely providing
an alternative to the wayward in the forlorn that the
patriarchal oppressive government has failed to provide. That is total
b s.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It's an interesting turn a phrase. Dress yourself up. I
sometimes think it is weird dress ups, you know, driving
around on your silly motorbikes with the impractical handlebars in
your silly outfits. How is that tough?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Actually?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Speaking of gang pictures, Matt and Tyler, we're speaking of
gang patches.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Literally, have people decide, as Craig says, it's gone too
far and the wrong people are being targeted and the
mood in the nation changes, or then a new government
might just go along with that mood in the nation.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Well, okay, So you say that you're not Tyler, You
say that you're not specifically intimidated, and you don't experience gangs,
and it's not a problem for you, right.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Not on a day to day basis.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
No, But knowing that there are gangs out there, how
do you feel about the gangs?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I don't like them, You don't like them, no.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
Right, And do you think that there are a problem
in New Zealand society?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:08):
Absolutely, okay, So do you think that the police need
to do something about it?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
And so from the police's perspective and from the government's perspective,
this is a tool to do something about it.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
And if they can get into these gang houses and
they've got that opportunity to do that, I think it's
a good thing. Primarily around the drug trade. That's what
I hate most about it. And look, I'll say it
on this show that I had a cousin who was
on the periphery of the gangs, and my auntie has
had a lot to do on sort of the outskirts
of gang life, and she's pretty strong that she doesn't
like gang she doesn't like how they operate. She doesn't
(10:43):
like what happens in the community. But not all of
them are bad people, but how they operate.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
But what do you think gangs? How do you think
gangs make money?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (10:52):
From jokes, from exact crime, right, yeah, from crime? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
So yeah, So I don't know whether this is whether
this is an effective way to hit gangs or not
that that's really the question. But I think we all
agree that gangs aren't a great pathway for someone in life,
a young person going forward.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
It is a bit frustrating when you hear people say
you don't have not everybody in a gang is a
bad person. I'm pretty sure with most gangs, serious gangs,
you've got to do some pretty bad things to get
into the gang in the first place. They're saying news
talk Z been right. Let's finish up talking Coldplay. It's
(11:33):
the biggest tour ever that anybody's ever done. Three Eden
Park concerts here. I know one of my daughters was
there last night. Marcus wasn't there, he was on air.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
What do you think the first complaint will get about
Coldplay will be when the people leave the concert tonight
at ten. Will they be complaining about the trains not arriving,
or that their cars have been towed, all that it
was too loud, all that it was too quiet, or
(12:08):
that the people in front of them were dancing. That's
where it's a great one for the concerts, when appearing
to the fifties up the ground that people dance and
they can't see, I'm sure that's going to be it.
Sit down, sit down, that's probably what it'll be. I
don't know if it's seated or standing or quite what
happens on the flat of there. This is a cold
play that Eden Park tonight, there'll be three nights. They
(12:32):
have Tomorrow off, they'll go to Wahiki. I suppose to
a vineyard. It's what they seem to do on those
sorts of places. But anyway, this is cold play. If
you got involved with the traffic going there, was it smooth?
What do you think the first thing they'll complain about
will be, I reckon it will be that people were
dancing in front of them, that they weren't sitting down.
We're in the Marcus, we're in the seated stands. We
(12:53):
hardly ever go to a concert. I said to Belle,
I said, let's go. We'll fly from christ Church, will
make a week end of it. We don't have a
lot of money, but we did what we could. We've
bought tickets, we sold some shares and the power companies
we bought tickets and we're really looking forward to it.
We got there and straight away they came on and
the people in front of us were standing and we
couldn't see anything, and we can't stand up because we
(13:15):
don't feel good in that way?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Is there?
Speaker 8 (13:19):
You think what's going to be about? By the way,
the song yellow was originally called yellow Pages. Not many
people know that. In fact, I didn't know then to
about two minutes ago. But anyway, what do you think
they'll be complaining about after the concert? Normally it's about
the trains, or their cars have been towed, or the
traffic's gridlocked, or the concert's too loud. I don't think
(13:41):
they'll be complaining about people fighting in front of them,
like in Travis, because they probably won't be doing that
unless they're fighting about people dancing in front of them. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I mean, it's a good argument for more more concerts,
isn't it. And I know that they are. They've the
powers that be proved more concerts, I think in the
name because if it's happening every week and not just
every now and again, then hopefully we won't just keep
losing our minds. I'm there's a concert. I mean, we
(14:13):
seem to be able to go to the rugby when
the rugby is on. Why concerts concess becomes this whole
other thing. Don't they Let's normalize concerts because believe it
or not, it does go on pretty regularly in other
places in the world. I am glen Hart solid take beer.
(14:36):
I thought it'd be in there from me. I was
just listening back to that and thinking of that guy
knows what he's talking about. It happens once every so often,
and today was one of those days. So tomorrow it
will probably be terrible, but you know, come back, have
a listen to see what you think.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
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