November 14, 2024 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB) School Has Always Been a Weird Place/National Loses Any Way You Look at It/How to Close the Gap/We've Always Been Too Far Away/Coldplay Hacks
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean for Friday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn harton we are
looking back at Thursday. Nationals finally sort of explained exactly
why they won't be supporting the Treaty Principal's Bill past
its first reading without make any difference. There's still a
gender pay gap. What's going on there? Tourism is floundering
(00:47):
in this country for some reason, and Marcus has a
coldplay hack I can't wait to hear about. But before
any of that, how about these schools who are basically
making the hikoy a school trip. What's up with that?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I took my fifteen year old girl down to Parliament
grounds during the occupation they had down there, one from
the point of showing her that this is her right
to peace of peacefully protest, and to show her that
(01:28):
what she's watching on TV is not necessarily what's going
on on the site. So she was apprehensives apprehensions at
first about going up to the very front where all
the action was so to speak, but once we left,
she realized that it wasn't what the media was reporting.
(01:49):
You know, there was different different fractions within the group
there that were trouble makers and other people that was people.
And I just believe that is really important for her
as a young child that's growing up, that this is
your fright as a New Zealander to peaceful protest your
(02:10):
opinion and regardless of what side she decides to follow
when she becomes an adult. At the post of the school,
I disagree with them pulling or allowing kids to go
out of protest unless it's the whole school that is it.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
There's a lot of random stuff that goes on at school.
I never liked athletic to day for example, school camps.
I wasn't a big fan of those. I just wanted
I just sort of I think I just wanted school
to be about school, to be honest, I didn't even
really want that eventually, learning how to protest is it
(02:59):
really something something that you should learn at school. I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
News talk anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I believe it or not. This Half Boy is all
about David Seymour's Treaty Principled Bill, which has made that
National won't.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Support given the popular popularity of this bill and the
admission that Paul Goldsmith has made that actually, if it
went to referendum it would pass. I think. I think.
And by the way, when I speak about the popularity,
I'm talking about the fact that the basic idea was
put to a poll and it was very popular. I
think that there will be quite a few National Party
supporters who think that what's happening in race relations in
this country, where one kind of person is entitled to
(03:41):
freebies like free GP visits but others aren't, is an
example of New Zealand being way off track and exactly
the kind of getting us back on track that we
would like to see. And it doesn't really fly to
admit that, yeah, there is a problem, but then to go, well,
I'm not I just don't like this solution. Like, if
(04:02):
you admit that there's a problem, find me a simple
solution to it. Picking your way through myriad legislation to
bits and bobs here and there seems like doing it
the hard way when you have a perfectly simple solution
presented right to you right now the Act Party is
proposing it. Voters ps newsflash to the National Party rarely
love a simple solution, especially if they are a conservative voter.
(04:24):
Gang patches are intimidating. Ban the gang patches, kids aren't
going to school, Punish the parents. Healthcare is falling apart.
Build more hospitals, hire more doctors, hire more nurses. A
simple solution is a thing that a conservative voter loves
the most. Race relations are getting weird because the treaty
principles at the moment are willy and undefined. So the
simple solution is define them, which is what David Seymour
(04:48):
is planning to do in this bill. Saying yeah, there
is a problem, but they're not fixing it with the
most obvious and simple fix is going to sound to
a lot of voters amongst the National Party's own voting
base like the Nats are just making a bunch of excuses.
So while I'm pleased we've got their argument, good luck
to them trying to convince anyone with this one.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, I still I know it's been partially explained, but
I still don't fully understand why they are supporting it
up till the first reading, and then not after that.
It just seems like the most pointless I just don't
understand that I've missed something somewhere along the way. And
(05:29):
given that I work on the nation's leading news program
and I've missed something, I can only imagine how the
general public is feeling about things right now.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You talk, SI, I hope that the general public is.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
A lot more onto it than I am. And there's
a lot of stuff, But I am aware that there
is still a gender pay get though, which is not good.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Perhaps the mother has the first six months off, then
the father has six months off, so that when you
do have a man and a woman applying for a job,
they're both thirty two, they both have the same level
of qualifications for whatever excuse me, for whatever job they're
applying for. Then an employer can look at them both
(06:17):
and go, I know that at some point, if they
want children, I'm going to lose that person for six months,
be it the man, be at the woman. If there
is an expectation that the man will take time off too,
an expectation from within the family, from within the community,
from within the workforce, that men are just as likely
(06:40):
to take six months off as women are. That kind
of evens the playing field. So I think here they
had a point It's not always going to be possible
for a woman to give birth and then skip back
to work the next day, leaving the man literally to
pick up the baby. But I think if there is
(07:00):
an expectation that it will be equally shared between men
and women, it will help level up the playing field.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I mean, the solution that once again is obvious, and
once again I don't understand why people don't seem to
be hearing me on this, But the answer to this issue,
as it is with so many issues, is for people
to never ever never, never never ever, never ever ever
never have children problem solved. Now, we've got some tourism
(07:37):
data out and it's not good. Changed the tourists came
back up to a certain point and then it seems
to have stalled for some reason.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Fifty five thousand for the year September that was our
net migration loss of New Zealand citizens, which is a
new record. Not only are we that un sexy to
foreigners they won't come here and have a piece, but
our own people are off flirting up a storm with
the likes of Australia. They're not even flirting. It's not
a weakend fling. They have left us it's divorce. Sure,
(08:11):
we're getting more people in terms of overall migration, meaning
an overall net positive number. But next year, many economists predict,
for the first time in a long time, excluding COVID,
we'll hit net zero migration. And we need migrants to
support our economy here, and we need tourists to support
our economy here as well. So what's happened to us?
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Did we stop.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Brushing our hair and cleaning our teeth? Do we look
like some antipody and mole at the bottom of the
world that you'd rather skip over. The Aussies are rebounding
much better than us on tourism, and they're taking all
of our young workers. And you look at all the
places that are so overcrowded by tourists. They're introducing limits
in Florence. Just yesterday they announced that they're banning key
(08:52):
boxes to stop airbnbs in the city. Rome, Amsterdam, Athens, Pouquette,
just to name a few. They're all doing similar things.
Last year, we ranked one hundred and fifty seventh out
of one hundred and eighty countries on growth and things
haven't improved much there since we are a very expensive
place to come and we are at the bottom of
the world. The heart of the matter, though, is we've
(09:13):
lost a bit of our mojo. Apart from cutting spending
and focusing on the basics, which are important, what is
this country's big plan to grow our economic future and fortunes?
What industries are we targeting? Until we can answer that
big question, we'll still look a little bit ugly to
the rest of the world.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I keep hearing about this mojo booms, and I'm not
sure can you ever once you've lost your mojo, can
you ever get it back? Is it something like letting
the genie out of the bottles? Losing your mojo? And also, yeah,
(09:58):
people do complain about us being very far away, but
we're not further away than we used to bet b
are we? I mean, yeah, we are far away, but
we've always I don't think we've got any further away,
have we? Because there been some kind of tectonic shift.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
News talk z it been right.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So as we stand, it's early Friday morning. There's two
Cold Play concerts to go. One down, two to go.
Marcus has some kind of hack. I haven't heard this yet.
I can't wait too.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
What are we going to do for the opening of
the other city rail loop. We're going to do this
show from the train? Probably not, but I would like
to see that that's not twenty twenty six, just thinking
how that's it's gonna be quite a big deal for
New Zealand, I reckond, or certainly for Auckland. I might
be a bit of a Jeffer story though that one.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Well what about us?
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Down here? People?
Speaker 6 (10:50):
We say, what about us?
Speaker 7 (10:52):
We're sick of the train. What about us? I have
spoken to people today that went to cold Play. I'd preload.
I'd preload and hide a Lime scooter and a hedge.
(11:14):
Oh is it irresponsible? That's what I'd do. And then
I'd get the Lime scooter out of the hedge and
take off and get the train. But the woman that
paid twenty dollars for two centimeters of champagne and people
(11:34):
are talking today, had one guy spoke to today walked
for an hour to get an uber because we were
no ubers, there was no internet. I even reckon a
pushback could be a good idea. You could chain that somewhere,
chain it to a hedge and get on that and
then just drive like the wind and then check that
(11:55):
in the back of your double cab mute. That's my
advice to you. I think that'd be a great way
to do it. That's how I'd be doing it if
I was going there. Yeah, park and then bike. But park,
say you're far enough away that you can beat the
(12:16):
traffic jam. That's for free, that advice kind of for
a tiny moment there yesterday I thought, at last I
thought I wouldn't mind going to the concert. But unless
probably not.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, I'm quite happy if I never go to another
concert ever again. I don't find I mean, it sounded
like Coldplay was super amazing and if you could just
sort of teleport yourself there just for the concert and
then teleport yourself away again.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
But cheese.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
There is a lot of colaba around it, isn't there.
It's a hot you've got basically got to mudicate a
whole day to it. Although my daughter who went the
other night had a great time. They just parked. They
parked about the feen minutes away, a few minutes walk away.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
And.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Didn't see to have any issues at all. Those are
the stories you don't really hear, right anyway, I am
glen hat. I think I'll just love give my concert
experiences vicariously through other people from now on, if you
showed me the pictures of the videos.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
There was enough.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I got the idea, and hopefully I'll give you a
good idea of what happened on newsbooks. You'd be yesterday,
and I'll give you a good idea of what's going
to happen on newsbooks. You'll be over the weekend on Monday.
When I look back at it, well, that see's got
a bit comes to towards the end, isn't it. You
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
News Talk has Talking Said Been. For more from news
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean for Friday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn harton we are
looking back at Thursday. Nationals finally sort of explained exactly
why they won't be supporting the Treaty Principal's Bill past
its first reading without make any difference. There's still a
gender pay gap. What's going on there? Tourism is floundering
(00:47):
in this country for some reason, and Marcus has a
coldplay hack I can't wait to hear about. But before
any of that, how about these schools who are basically
making the hikoy a school trip. What's up with that?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I took my fifteen year old girl down to Parliament
grounds during the occupation they had down there, one from
the point of showing her that this is her right
to peace of peacefully protest, and to show her that
(01:28):
what she's watching on TV is not necessarily what's going
on on the site. So she was apprehensives apprehensions at
first about going up to the very front where all
the action was so to speak, but once we left,
she realized that it wasn't what the media was reporting.
(01:49):
You know, there was different different fractions within the group
there that were trouble makers and other people that was people.
And I just believe that is really important for her
as a young child that's growing up, that this is
your fright as a New Zealander to peaceful protest your
(02:10):
opinion and regardless of what side she decides to follow
when she becomes an adult. At the post of the school,
I disagree with them pulling or allowing kids to go
out of protest unless it's the whole school that is it.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
There's a lot of random stuff that goes on at school.
I never liked athletic to day for example, school camps.
I wasn't a big fan of those. I just wanted
I just sort of I think I just wanted school
to be about school, to be honest, I didn't even
really want that eventually, learning how to protest is it
(02:59):
really something something that you should learn at school. I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
News talk anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I believe it or not. This Half Boy is all
about David Seymour's Treaty Principled Bill, which has made that
National won't.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Support given the popular popularity of this bill and the
admission that Paul Goldsmith has made that actually, if it
went to referendum it would pass. I think. I think.
And by the way, when I speak about the popularity,
I'm talking about the fact that the basic idea was
put to a poll and it was very popular. I
think that there will be quite a few National Party
supporters who think that what's happening in race relations in
this country, where one kind of person is entitled to
(03:41):
freebies like free GP visits but others aren't, is an
example of New Zealand being way off track and exactly
the kind of getting us back on track that we
would like to see. And it doesn't really fly to
admit that, yeah, there is a problem, but then to go, well,
I'm not I just don't like this solution. Like, if
(04:02):
you admit that there's a problem, find me a simple
solution to it. Picking your way through myriad legislation to
bits and bobs here and there seems like doing it
the hard way when you have a perfectly simple solution
presented right to you right now the Act Party is
proposing it. Voters ps newsflash to the National Party rarely
love a simple solution, especially if they are a conservative voter.
(04:24):
Gang patches are intimidating. Ban the gang patches, kids aren't
going to school, Punish the parents. Healthcare is falling apart.
Build more hospitals, hire more doctors, hire more nurses. A
simple solution is a thing that a conservative voter loves
the most. Race relations are getting weird because the treaty
principles at the moment are willy and undefined. So the
simple solution is define them, which is what David Seymour
(04:48):
is planning to do in this bill. Saying yeah, there
is a problem, but they're not fixing it with the
most obvious and simple fix is going to sound to
a lot of voters amongst the National Party's own voting
base like the Nats are just making a bunch of excuses.
So while I'm pleased we've got their argument, good luck
to them trying to convince anyone with this one.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, I still I know it's been partially explained, but
I still don't fully understand why they are supporting it
up till the first reading, and then not after that.
It just seems like the most pointless I just don't
understand that I've missed something somewhere along the way. And
(05:29):
given that I work on the nation's leading news program
and I've missed something, I can only imagine how the
general public is feeling about things right now.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You talk, SI, I hope that the general public is.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
A lot more onto it than I am. And there's
a lot of stuff, But I am aware that there
is still a gender pay get though, which is not good.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Perhaps the mother has the first six months off, then
the father has six months off, so that when you
do have a man and a woman applying for a job,
they're both thirty two, they both have the same level
of qualifications for whatever excuse me, for whatever job they're
applying for. Then an employer can look at them both
(06:17):
and go, I know that at some point, if they
want children, I'm going to lose that person for six months,
be it the man, be at the woman. If there
is an expectation that the man will take time off too,
an expectation from within the family, from within the community,
from within the workforce, that men are just as likely
(06:40):
to take six months off as women are. That kind
of evens the playing field. So I think here they
had a point It's not always going to be possible
for a woman to give birth and then skip back
to work the next day, leaving the man literally to
pick up the baby. But I think if there is
(07:00):
an expectation that it will be equally shared between men
and women, it will help level up the playing field.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I mean, the solution that once again is obvious, and
once again I don't understand why people don't seem to
be hearing me on this, But the answer to this issue,
as it is with so many issues, is for people
to never ever never, never never ever, never ever ever
never have children problem solved. Now, we've got some tourism
(07:37):
data out and it's not good. Changed the tourists came
back up to a certain point and then it seems
to have stalled for some reason.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Fifty five thousand for the year September that was our
net migration loss of New Zealand citizens, which is a
new record. Not only are we that un sexy to
foreigners they won't come here and have a piece, but
our own people are off flirting up a storm with
the likes of Australia. They're not even flirting. It's not
a weakend fling. They have left us it's divorce. Sure,
(08:11):
we're getting more people in terms of overall migration, meaning
an overall net positive number. But next year, many economists predict,
for the first time in a long time, excluding COVID,
we'll hit net zero migration. And we need migrants to
support our economy here, and we need tourists to support
our economy here as well. So what's happened to us?
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Did we stop.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Brushing our hair and cleaning our teeth? Do we look
like some antipody and mole at the bottom of the
world that you'd rather skip over. The Aussies are rebounding
much better than us on tourism, and they're taking all
of our young workers. And you look at all the
places that are so overcrowded by tourists. They're introducing limits
in Florence. Just yesterday they announced that they're banning key
(08:52):
boxes to stop airbnbs in the city. Rome, Amsterdam, Athens, Pouquette,
just to name a few. They're all doing similar things.
Last year, we ranked one hundred and fifty seventh out
of one hundred and eighty countries on growth and things
haven't improved much there since we are a very expensive
place to come and we are at the bottom of
the world. The heart of the matter, though, is we've
(09:13):
lost a bit of our mojo. Apart from cutting spending
and focusing on the basics, which are important, what is
this country's big plan to grow our economic future and fortunes?
What industries are we targeting? Until we can answer that
big question, we'll still look a little bit ugly to
the rest of the world.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I keep hearing about this mojo booms, and I'm not
sure can you ever once you've lost your mojo, can
you ever get it back? Is it something like letting
the genie out of the bottles? Losing your mojo? And also, yeah,
(09:58):
people do complain about us being very far away, but
we're not further away than we used to bet b
are we? I mean, yeah, we are far away, but
we've always I don't think we've got any further away,
have we? Because there been some kind of tectonic shift.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
News talk z it been right.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So as we stand, it's early Friday morning. There's two
Cold Play concerts to go. One down, two to go.
Marcus has some kind of hack. I haven't heard this yet.
I can't wait too.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
What are we going to do for the opening of
the other city rail loop. We're going to do this
show from the train? Probably not, but I would like
to see that that's not twenty twenty six, just thinking
how that's it's gonna be quite a big deal for
New Zealand, I reckond, or certainly for Auckland. I might
be a bit of a Jeffer story though that one.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Well what about us?
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Down here? People?
Speaker 6 (10:50):
We say, what about us?
Speaker 7 (10:52):
We're sick of the train. What about us? I have
spoken to people today that went to cold Play. I'd preload.
I'd preload and hide a Lime scooter and a hedge.
(11:14):
Oh is it irresponsible? That's what I'd do. And then
I'd get the Lime scooter out of the hedge and
take off and get the train. But the woman that
paid twenty dollars for two centimeters of champagne and people
(11:34):
are talking today, had one guy spoke to today walked
for an hour to get an uber because we were
no ubers, there was no internet. I even reckon a
pushback could be a good idea. You could chain that somewhere,
chain it to a hedge and get on that and
then just drive like the wind and then check that
(11:55):
in the back of your double cab mute. That's my
advice to you. I think that'd be a great way
to do it. That's how I'd be doing it if
I was going there. Yeah, park and then bike. But park,
say you're far enough away that you can beat the
(12:16):
traffic jam. That's for free, that advice kind of for
a tiny moment there yesterday I thought, at last I
thought I wouldn't mind going to the concert. But unless
probably not.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, I'm quite happy if I never go to another
concert ever again. I don't find I mean, it sounded
like Coldplay was super amazing and if you could just
sort of teleport yourself there just for the concert and
then teleport yourself away again.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
But cheese.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
There is a lot of colaba around it, isn't there.
It's a hot you've got basically got to mudicate a
whole day to it. Although my daughter who went the
other night had a great time. They just parked. They
parked about the feen minutes away, a few minutes walk away.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
And.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Didn't see to have any issues at all. Those are
the stories you don't really hear, right anyway, I am
glen hat. I think I'll just love give my concert
experiences vicariously through other people from now on, if you
showed me the pictures of the videos.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
There was enough.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I got the idea, and hopefully I'll give you a
good idea of what happened on newsbooks. You'd be yesterday,
and I'll give you a good idea of what's going
to happen on newsbooks. You'll be over the weekend on Monday.
When I look back at it, well, that see's got
a bit comes to towards the end, isn't it. You
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
News Talk has Talking Said Been. For more from news
Talk Said B listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcast on iHeartRadio
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