November 20, 2024 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) Separation Is a Bit of a Red Flag/Accidental Exercise/The Old Nuclear Question/Where Driveways End/Indignant Ignorance
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Illo, My beautiful Beanings and welcome to the Being Thursday,
first of Yesterday's News. I am blen Hart. We are
looking back at Wednesday Health New Zealand's done our survey.
Some things are good, some things aren't. The nuclear power
debate seems to be raging again because it's really raging
over the ditch here that is annoyed about not being
(00:49):
allowed to park in our own driveway. And some bloke
rang Marcus because he was annoyed that he couldn't pack
his caravan.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Where he wanted to for a night.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So yeah, as you can tell, the podcast is going
to sort of tape her off into interesting places, but
it's going to start with a review of the Hakaoi
Goodese of Ryan Bridge.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Now the hikoy is over at Ahwiti Wayitetti wants to
go further. He wants a separate Maori parliament. He wants
two systems, he references on his website, the Irish, Welsh
and Scottish systems, the latter of which controls its own
justice education, tax systems. How would that work here? Who
(01:33):
would fund such a parliament? Who would fall under the
Maori parliament? Given seventy five percent of Mardi didn't vote
for at Ahiti's lot at the last election. How would
you build a nation within a nation separated not by
borders but ethnicity? Sarah's question. You see, democracy works when
(01:54):
we're all in it, and we're all in it equally.
It's true that not every group will get the same
outcomes from that system, but that's no reason to throw
the system away entirely. What it is, sure is a
call to better use that system to affect chain through
strong and pragmatic leadership, the likes of which Tapati Marti
has been known for in the past. Whether you'll get
(02:17):
that leadership from Debbi and White Tetty, well, we have
to wait and see.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I it makes me uncomfortable the idea of separate things
and not unified things. That sort of where I'm at
with that without getting you know, too lost in the weeds.
Just anytime everybody's talking about having a separate thing, their
own thing rather than the things for everybody fair ways
(02:47):
sort of has me worried.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
News Talk zep been right So there's.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Been a health New Zealand study or survey with some
good news and some bad news. Let's if you can
figure out which bit carry is focusing on.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Eight point two percent of children eight the recommended amount
of vegetables, which means ninety two percent are not so
that I found really concerning. Ninety two percent don't getting
the fruit and veg they need, which I suppose matches
to the one and four children living in households where
food runs out often or sometimes. So I suppose the
(03:24):
one good thing is that we're keeping tabs on this.
If there are targets, if there are statistics, we can
improve on them, if we know what's what, if we
have a baseline. So good news, drinking rates down, smoking
rates flatlining.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Bad news.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
The vaping thirty three thousand daily vapors to four hundred
and eighty thousand in just eight years, fewer than half
of adults meeting physical activity guidelines, and only eight point
two percent of kids age two to fourteen eating the
recommended amount of veggies. We can do better, But how
(04:11):
how do we do better? Love to hear from the
young ones who aren't drinking as much, and those of
you with young ones. Why is that? And for those
adults who are listening who want to exercise, who want
to exercise for the mental wellbeing, it brings as well
(04:35):
as the physical. Would you be getting two and a
half hours a week? Is that a realistic goal or
is that just beyond you?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That is beyond me. But I'm getting about seven hours
a week and it's all the dog's fault. The dog
must be walked, which involves me walking as well, with
the glen must be walked as well, apparently. So yeah,
(05:04):
I was just at the doctor the other day and
with the excit size and oh yeah, that's actually pretty good.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Que talks right.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Now for some reason, just because Australia is going through
a bit of a handringing exercise around nuclear power, suddenly
we're we're discussing it again as well. I still think,
would you getter off we just ignored Australia completely and
pretended it didn't exist.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
We might have to change our mindset because currently in
New Zealand we're very very anti nuclear power. For it
ever to be a reality. If we decide that it's
something that good, we're going to have to start talking
about it in an honest and open and Unafraid fashion.
We're currently thinking about the TV show Chernobyl. We're thinking
about the China syndrome, you know, three of Myle Island
(05:52):
and those those things aren't just unto reality so as
it's and it's you know, it's very expensive to build
a power plant now, but it's going to get cheaper
over time, especially with these small modular reactors that are
being invented. There's a bunch of startups around the world
looking at Yeah, so is it time that we started
thinking about atomic energy? What do you think about it?
(06:14):
Do we need to get rid of this taboo that
we have been nuclear free for a long time, and
that was mainly to do with weapons, right, but that
has clouded our judgment when they look totally different things.
They're not what you use. The fuel you use for
nuclear power plant isn't enriched enough in any way to
be used as a weapon. It's not going to cause
a chain reaction. That's not what it's about. So yeah,
I think I think we need to look into these things.
(06:37):
God knows, we've got problems with our power at the moment.
You know, we're getting warnings that we might you know
that in the middle of winter that power power could
go down. We've had cuts in the past, so we
need to be looking at our power structure and good
bloody luck trying to damn another river in this country.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And just for clarification there, I don't think Matt was
trying to claim Chernobyl wasn't real. I think what he
meant was the risk of another Chernobyl. It's pretty remote.
I think that's what you mean. I'm really confused about
(07:14):
this next one. So Aukan councils have been going around
for getting people who are parked from their own driveways,
the bits of the driveway between the where they set
can ends and the road that's anyway. Head is upset
(07:36):
about it. Let's hear her side of things first.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Who are you hurting? I mean, who are you inconveniencing
by doing this? So I totally get it. If you're
cutting off the footpath and people can't walk in front
of the car, then you're being a bit of a clown, right,
But if you've left space for people to be able
to walk in front of your car, what's the problem.
Why do you need to be ticketed? You know why
you need to be ticketed, don't you? Because Auckland Transport
wants the money. It's a really really easy money grab
(08:00):
for them, especially now that the ticket price is almost doubled. Now,
I reckon this is why Wayne Brown is right to
do what he proposed doing yesterday. He said yesterday he
wants to start moving to shut down Auckland Transports and
Dependence and bring them back into the council because other
councils around the country don't enforce us rule. Now I
stand to be corrected on this, but I can't find
(08:22):
examples of other councils around the country actually enforcing this,
and certainly not with the same vigor that apparently Auckland
Transport is that the transport is at the moment because
it's dumb. If any other council was doing it, it'll
be political suicide for counselors, so they don't do it.
But Auckland Transport does enforce it. Because Auckland Transport is
not answerable to rate payers. They are independent. They can
do whatever they want, however dumb it is, and we
(08:44):
can't do anything about it. So I reckon Auckland Transport
right now is making the case for why they should
not be allowed to run absolutely anything to do with
roads themselves. Take these people off the case because they
make stupid decisions. And frankly, I would challenge you to
find anything dumber that's happening on roads.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Right now, I'm going to go back to the dog
walking thing again. Don't have to be very much in
front of the foot path before you've got a bit
of a situation, especially for like another doms coming the
other way, or you kids on little bikes or people
on scooters. That Yeah, no, I don't think he has
(09:24):
really got me on side with.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
This one news talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
But then I think this is what probated the conversation
about council busy bodies on Marcus's show, And again I
know if this guy's got a lead to stand on.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
We hired a caravan and christ Church, went away down south,
came back, got back a bit later than what I
intended to do to christ Church to drop the caravan off,
and he was closed. But we didn't have much much
money left. We've just been on a holiday with two
young kids, so I thought I would can't really afford
a camping ground, so I pulled him too. One of those.
(09:59):
It was a park down quite a leasty suburb. There
was no one around, and it had a toilet block
and everything there, and I thought I got to be
perfect for the young kids. About nine o'clock at night,
some guy comes pounding on the door and tries to
present me with a sixty dollar ticket for a breaking
counciled by laws. Wow. And I explained to him the situation.
(10:23):
He wasn't interested. He wrote out a sixty dollar ticket,
which I think I used the toilet paper in the finish.
You know, I just no matter what I tried telling me,
he wasn't interested. He had one of these jolly neighborhood
watched something or other and hired by the cancel for
going around. I mean, I can understand that they don't
want two thousand people camping in their pack, but come on,
(10:44):
it was one night, We're on our way home from
a holiday. You're in the family, no money, You're in
the wrong.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
They're wit you, Bob.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Well, no, because I didn't know the women buy laws.
Where did I thought, I just champ here and then
the kids can use the toilets and then then we
go in the morning. I mean, there was no such
thing as freedom camping or anything in those days. That
how long. I did not think twenty years ago, oh hell,
but no, I did not think I was in the
wrong Marcus. I thought I was just God in the morning.
(11:15):
We'll just pack up and we go. We dropped the
caravan off, we go back to the coach.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It's your pleasant situation of your ignorance is no defense
even if you're really ignorant indignant about how ignorant Jesus
said you one, isn't it indignant ignorance? Can I say
that five times fast? But yeah, no matter how indignant,
I can't even say indignant. Man, that's been trying to
(11:41):
be the podcast. But no matter how indignant you are
about how ignorant of the law you were, it's the rule,
the rule made. And even yeah, boys, surprise, I'm sad
to the Christians right up there with indignant ignorant and
(12:03):
I still say, well, I tried to say that last time,
an get the rest of all up with a bow.
I've forgot what we're even talking about. So yeah, stop
there and start again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So news Talks Talking zid bean for more from news
Talk said b listen live on air or online and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio,
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk SEDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio
Used Talk SEDB, You Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Illo, My beautiful Beanings and welcome to the Being Thursday,
first of Yesterday's News. I am blen Hart. We are
looking back at Wednesday Health New Zealand's done our survey.
Some things are good, some things aren't. The nuclear power
debate seems to be raging again because it's really raging
over the ditch here that is annoyed about not being
(00:49):
allowed to park in our own driveway. And some bloke
rang Marcus because he was annoyed that he couldn't pack
his caravan.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Where he wanted to for a night.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So yeah, as you can tell, the podcast is going
to sort of tape her off into interesting places, but
it's going to start with a review of the Hakaoi
Goodese of Ryan Bridge.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Now the hikoy is over at Ahwiti Wayitetti wants to
go further. He wants a separate Maori parliament. He wants
two systems, he references on his website, the Irish, Welsh
and Scottish systems, the latter of which controls its own
justice education, tax systems. How would that work here? Who
(01:33):
would fund such a parliament? Who would fall under the
Maori parliament? Given seventy five percent of Mardi didn't vote
for at Ahiti's lot at the last election. How would
you build a nation within a nation separated not by
borders but ethnicity? Sarah's question. You see, democracy works when
(01:54):
we're all in it, and we're all in it equally.
It's true that not every group will get the same
outcomes from that system, but that's no reason to throw
the system away entirely. What it is, sure is a
call to better use that system to affect chain through
strong and pragmatic leadership, the likes of which Tapati Marti
has been known for in the past. Whether you'll get
(02:17):
that leadership from Debbi and White Tetty, well, we have
to wait and see.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I it makes me uncomfortable the idea of separate things
and not unified things. That sort of where I'm at
with that without getting you know, too lost in the weeds.
Just anytime everybody's talking about having a separate thing, their
own thing rather than the things for everybody fair ways
(02:47):
sort of has me worried.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
News Talk zep been right So there's.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Been a health New Zealand study or survey with some
good news and some bad news. Let's if you can
figure out which bit carry is focusing on.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Eight point two percent of children eight the recommended amount
of vegetables, which means ninety two percent are not so
that I found really concerning. Ninety two percent don't getting
the fruit and veg they need, which I suppose matches
to the one and four children living in households where
food runs out often or sometimes. So I suppose the
(03:24):
one good thing is that we're keeping tabs on this.
If there are targets, if there are statistics, we can
improve on them, if we know what's what, if we
have a baseline. So good news, drinking rates down, smoking
rates flatlining.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Bad news.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
The vaping thirty three thousand daily vapors to four hundred
and eighty thousand in just eight years, fewer than half
of adults meeting physical activity guidelines, and only eight point
two percent of kids age two to fourteen eating the
recommended amount of veggies. We can do better, But how
(04:11):
how do we do better? Love to hear from the
young ones who aren't drinking as much, and those of
you with young ones. Why is that? And for those
adults who are listening who want to exercise, who want
to exercise for the mental wellbeing, it brings as well
(04:35):
as the physical. Would you be getting two and a
half hours a week? Is that a realistic goal or
is that just beyond you?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That is beyond me. But I'm getting about seven hours
a week and it's all the dog's fault. The dog
must be walked, which involves me walking as well, with
the glen must be walked as well, apparently. So yeah,
(05:04):
I was just at the doctor the other day and
with the excit size and oh yeah, that's actually pretty good.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Que talks right.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Now for some reason, just because Australia is going through
a bit of a handringing exercise around nuclear power, suddenly
we're we're discussing it again as well. I still think,
would you getter off we just ignored Australia completely and
pretended it didn't exist.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
We might have to change our mindset because currently in
New Zealand we're very very anti nuclear power. For it
ever to be a reality. If we decide that it's
something that good, we're going to have to start talking
about it in an honest and open and Unafraid fashion.
We're currently thinking about the TV show Chernobyl. We're thinking
about the China syndrome, you know, three of Myle Island
(05:52):
and those those things aren't just unto reality so as
it's and it's you know, it's very expensive to build
a power plant now, but it's going to get cheaper
over time, especially with these small modular reactors that are
being invented. There's a bunch of startups around the world
looking at Yeah, so is it time that we started
thinking about atomic energy? What do you think about it?
(06:14):
Do we need to get rid of this taboo that
we have been nuclear free for a long time, and
that was mainly to do with weapons, right, but that
has clouded our judgment when they look totally different things.
They're not what you use. The fuel you use for
nuclear power plant isn't enriched enough in any way to
be used as a weapon. It's not going to cause
a chain reaction. That's not what it's about. So yeah,
I think I think we need to look into these things.
(06:37):
God knows, we've got problems with our power at the moment.
You know, we're getting warnings that we might you know
that in the middle of winter that power power could
go down. We've had cuts in the past, so we
need to be looking at our power structure and good
bloody luck trying to damn another river in this country.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And just for clarification there, I don't think Matt was
trying to claim Chernobyl wasn't real. I think what he
meant was the risk of another Chernobyl. It's pretty remote.
I think that's what you mean. I'm really confused about
(07:14):
this next one. So Aukan councils have been going around
for getting people who are parked from their own driveways,
the bits of the driveway between the where they set
can ends and the road that's anyway. Head is upset
(07:36):
about it. Let's hear her side of things first.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Who are you hurting? I mean, who are you inconveniencing
by doing this? So I totally get it. If you're
cutting off the footpath and people can't walk in front
of the car, then you're being a bit of a clown, right,
But if you've left space for people to be able
to walk in front of your car, what's the problem.
Why do you need to be ticketed? You know why
you need to be ticketed, don't you? Because Auckland Transport
wants the money. It's a really really easy money grab
(08:00):
for them, especially now that the ticket price is almost doubled. Now,
I reckon this is why Wayne Brown is right to
do what he proposed doing yesterday. He said yesterday he
wants to start moving to shut down Auckland Transports and
Dependence and bring them back into the council because other
councils around the country don't enforce us rule. Now I
stand to be corrected on this, but I can't find
(08:22):
examples of other councils around the country actually enforcing this,
and certainly not with the same vigor that apparently Auckland
Transport is that the transport is at the moment because
it's dumb. If any other council was doing it, it'll
be political suicide for counselors, so they don't do it.
But Auckland Transport does enforce it. Because Auckland Transport is
not answerable to rate payers. They are independent. They can
do whatever they want, however dumb it is, and we
(08:44):
can't do anything about it. So I reckon Auckland Transport
right now is making the case for why they should
not be allowed to run absolutely anything to do with
roads themselves. Take these people off the case because they
make stupid decisions. And frankly, I would challenge you to
find anything dumber that's happening on roads.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Right now, I'm going to go back to the dog
walking thing again. Don't have to be very much in
front of the foot path before you've got a bit
of a situation, especially for like another doms coming the
other way, or you kids on little bikes or people
on scooters. That Yeah, no, I don't think he has
(09:24):
really got me on side with.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
This one news talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
But then I think this is what probated the conversation
about council busy bodies on Marcus's show, And again I
know if this guy's got a lead to stand on.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
We hired a caravan and christ Church, went away down south,
came back, got back a bit later than what I
intended to do to christ Church to drop the caravan off,
and he was closed. But we didn't have much much
money left. We've just been on a holiday with two
young kids, so I thought I would can't really afford
a camping ground, so I pulled him too. One of those.
(09:59):
It was a park down quite a leasty suburb. There
was no one around, and it had a toilet block
and everything there, and I thought I got to be
perfect for the young kids. About nine o'clock at night,
some guy comes pounding on the door and tries to
present me with a sixty dollar ticket for a breaking
counciled by laws. Wow. And I explained to him the situation.
(10:23):
He wasn't interested. He wrote out a sixty dollar ticket,
which I think I used the toilet paper in the finish.
You know, I just no matter what I tried telling me,
he wasn't interested. He had one of these jolly neighborhood
watched something or other and hired by the cancel for
going around. I mean, I can understand that they don't
want two thousand people camping in their pack, but come on,
(10:44):
it was one night, We're on our way home from
a holiday. You're in the family, no money, You're in
the wrong.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
They're wit you, Bob.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Well, no, because I didn't know the women buy laws.
Where did I thought, I just champ here and then
the kids can use the toilets and then then we
go in the morning. I mean, there was no such
thing as freedom camping or anything in those days. That
how long. I did not think twenty years ago, oh hell,
but no, I did not think I was in the
wrong Marcus. I thought I was just God in the morning.
(11:15):
We'll just pack up and we go. We dropped the
caravan off, we go back to the coach.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It's your pleasant situation of your ignorance is no defense
even if you're really ignorant indignant about how ignorant Jesus
said you one, isn't it indignant ignorance? Can I say
that five times fast? But yeah, no matter how indignant,
I can't even say indignant. Man, that's been trying to
(11:41):
be the podcast. But no matter how indignant you are
about how ignorant of the law you were, it's the rule,
the rule made. And even yeah, boys, surprise, I'm sad
to the Christians right up there with indignant ignorant and
(12:03):
I still say, well, I tried to say that last time,
an get the rest of all up with a bow.
I've forgot what we're even talking about. So yeah, stop
there and start again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So news Talks Talking zid bean for more from news
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