November 21, 2024 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB) A Bit Too Seriously?/Guess What? Breaking the Speed Limit May Result In a Fine/Where Are All These Cheap Drugs Coming From?/Matt Heath Is a Bad Influence
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
May, beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's News.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I am Glen Hart and we are looking back at Thursday.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's been a week where people are moaned about.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Getting tickets for things, and Marcus is going to reflect
on that. Hot off the back of yesterday's guy who
was grumbling about getting a ticket for parking his caravan
where he wasn't supposed to.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
It's been an.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Exciting week for Marcus. Really, our drug use is.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Up because the prices are down, So this is great
news in terms of inflation, probably bad news in terms
of substance abuse. Speaking of seven says what lengths will
you go to to get a coffee? But before any
of that, the gang patch ban is now in effect.
Don't wear that patch or you'll get necked.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
We are talking about them doing crime to be like
violent crime to be able to get a patch. It's
not good hard work, it's bad hard work. So maybe
that could have been pointed out so that the readers
maybe felt a little less sympathy for the porolda pressed
gang member in that instance. I'll tell you what, actually,
none of this matters. I frankly don't care if there
is any evidence for or against the gang patch ban working.
(01:39):
And I actually don't make if. I don't care if
it actually makes us any safer or not safer. I
just like that the gang members have been reminded who's
boss and it's not them, And frankly, for the last
few years they have been allowed to think that they
are the boss and they get to call the shots.
And with them taking over roads in Hawks Bay, various
other cities across the country, basically taking over the whole
(02:00):
town of a portacky for a tongey and forcing normal
law abiding motorists to have to wait on the side
of the road and use the road when it suits
the gangs to let them use the road while they
had something akin to a guard of honor from police.
So after all of that shenanigans that was going on, well,
mates thought that they were in charge of the show.
I don't mind if the only thing that comes from
this patch ban is a reminder that they do not
(02:21):
set the rules in this country. We do those of
us who pay taxes, do the actual hard work, follow
the law, and vote for a tough on crime approach.
That is enough for me.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I feel like Heather has obviously been listened to this
podcast or perhaps the rewrap, because I made that same
point earlier in the week. I think about the in
order to get into a gang, you've got to do
some pretty bad stuff just to be in a gang.
So I'm not particularly interested in whether they have the
(02:53):
rights to do anything at that point.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
News Talk Zi been.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
That's pretty hardline and right wing. Glenn for you, you're
lefty liberal. Well, yeah, just calls it like a sees it.
I'm sure Ryan does too.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Everyone hates gangs unless you're in them. You hate them
because they intimidate, they cause misery, they beat their wives,
they do all sorts of awful things.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But I just.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
Worry that the gang patch ban in and of itself,
it's not really going to solve the underlying causes of it,
is it. And what I worry about is the waste
that could go into this, the waste of time, police energy,
and resources running after you. Every time Betty sees a
gang patch, he rings in one one one oh. I've
(03:40):
seen the makero mob, which is fine because I know
it's intimidating. I'm not just I'm not being disparaging of Betty. However,
that is going to tie up some police time which
could be better spent solving an actual crime. The other
problem here is the design of the insignia the gang patch.
So at the moment the police know the designs of
(04:02):
each of the patches or mobs patches, what they're apparently
doing is going down through and making so suttle changes,
adding words like mani fenua or changing this logo or
that logo. So sure, you will take the patch, you
will collect it as evidence, you will take it to court,
and the lawyers will argue it's different. I mean, and
(04:23):
where are we now with our legal bills and our
legal aid bills, and what have we actually achieved in
doing that? Have we reduced crime or have we increased
the cost of administering administering a fashion police policy?
Speaker 6 (04:39):
You know that's my only concern.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So you worry that it's going to be a bit
expensive basically to I mean, either you have a gang
crackdown or you don't. You can't just have half a
gang crackdown because you haven't got the budget for it. Yeah,
(05:02):
I mean I want them gone. That's how right wing
and not lefty liberal I am on this issue. Talk
So yeah, Ryan was I think a bit of a
lone voice on this station anyway in terms of the
gang patch debate. But a lot of people they've got
funny attitudes about speeding tickets for they It's that's been
(05:25):
quite revealing this.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Week talking about enforcement of traffic. I was kind of
surprised at how upset those people were by getting a ticket, Like,
when did that happen that we became So it's going
to be tough in traffic policing with people's attitude like that.
(05:49):
They're so opposed to any form of I mean, all
they say is revenue collecting. But I would imagine the
cost of handing out the fines and enforcing the fines
and collecting the fines. I don't know if there's much
money to be made now. I don't know that. And
(06:10):
like I thought a lot of things with numbers, you
could probably run the numbers two different way and get
two different results. But I think just calling it revenue
collecting is slightly slightly simplistic and a fairly easy thing
just to say to people it's revenue colleting. I'm not
quite sure if that's the case.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Which bit is the revenue collecting part, the giving out
the tickets or actually having the speed limits, because I guess,
I mean, we could try just not having speed limits
anywhere and see how that works out.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Give it a go. What's the worst that could happen?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Right, So, we've got concerning stats that had come out
around drug use.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Seems to be.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Skyrocketing, Cocaine very much back in fashion, and it's cheaper
than ever apparently, So is it.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Good news to the economy. Not quite. The issue is it.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
If there are many, many people, like if it's more
than one percent, if we're talking about ten percent of
the population using illicit drugs, then you'd think it would
be time to take the Portuguese approach and decriminalize drugs
to control the source and supply so that it wasn't
in the hands of the gangsters and the mobsters. And
we really don't want Mexican cartels here. Do we nothing
against Mexicans, just the cartels. But then you can't just
(07:42):
take the Portuguese experiment, which has worked in.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Portugal and.
Speaker 8 (07:47):
Just import it. Holess bowlness into your own country and
Canada and British Columbia. They became the first and only
province thus far to decriminalize the possession of a small
amount of hard drugs to reduce the barriers and stigma
quote unquote that bar those with severe drug addiction from
life saving help or treatment. It's running on a pilot
(08:11):
basis until twenty twenty six, but already it's a disaster.
Just in a year. It's come under increasing pressure from
British Columbian residents and political opponents who have called it
a harmful experiment with all the drug users out in
the streets and slumped over and unconscious, no safeguards for
the public, and one that's utterly failed to reduce drug
(08:33):
overdose deaths. So remember the sinnies that were doing so
much damage, especially among the homeless people that seems to
have they seem to have self regulated and thought, no,
we're not going to use those because we're going to
end up dying a horrible death. According to the latest
(08:55):
Drugs Trends survey, drug use is increasing across most drugs
across all regions of New Zealand. The price is dropping.
Its hootes were Hey, you know, party, party time as
we go into summer. But according to the Drug Foundation,
you know, three point six percent of the population using
(09:17):
illicit drugs. It's not a huge amount of people, is it.
So where are we at? What what numbers do you believe?
Is it worth having a moral crisis and you know,
raising the alarm about the amount of drug use and
the cartels moving into here or is it a relatively
small number of people? How is it that three point
(09:42):
six percent of the population can support all those gangs
and all those cartels.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Look, if I've learned one thing from watching Lioness, very
good show, very good tailor Sheridan show, he's the same
guy I wrote Yellowstone, it's about the CIA Special Operations
setting undercover agents too.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
During dangerous situations.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
But if I've relutely anything from that show and from
Sealed Team.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Self explanatory, it's that the Mexican cartels.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Who's behind the Mixican cartels? Who's supplying them? That it's China.
So it's actually and the reason that China are doing
that flooding the market with cheap drugs to destabilized to
the US see here butterfly flax its wings and before.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
You know it.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
You've got cheap cocaine in Silverdale.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Crazy news talk z it bean.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Now the coffee is legal, but just in terms of,
you know, while we're talking in substances that make you
feel good, But stealing it isn't.
Speaker 9 (11:03):
I just ordered two coffees, one for you and one
for me to down at the cafe across the road,
Scratch and.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And I just.
Speaker 9 (11:10):
I ordered them, and then I had sort of thought
about something else, and then I grabbed two and left
and walked out across the road. And I'd stolen someone's coffee.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Oh you didn't after you.
Speaker 9 (11:21):
Yeah, I'd stolen I'd stolen two innocent people's coffees. So
that might not be your order there?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
What is it? Some sort of Makachino number.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I told you, I'm not.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
I'm not at the moment, they collared me and brought
me back and gave me my coffee.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
So you can never go back there. No, No, that's
it for you.
Speaker 9 (11:38):
I don't know what I was thinking. Coffees can't be
made that quickly, you know, sometimes you zone out and
you do something ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
A coffee can't be made in fifteen seconds.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, now you're going to have your picture up there
at the cafe coffee steal a mate.
Speaker 9 (11:49):
My head, my head was in the clouds around the
excellent three hours of radio we've got planned.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, well, thank you for the coffee, mate.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
See, this is exactly what I was afraid of when
they when they gave this Heath guy the job, because
we had that noise complaint story the other day, didn't
We got the noise control officer who rang in and
said that he'd been called around to met Heath's place
once and now he's just taking people's coffees. He's just
(12:19):
so entitled he thinks he can just grab people's coffees.
Serious reservations about this guy, and we've just welcomed and
welcomed him in.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Hold Us polus. I don't think I've ever used the
term holeless polus before. Is it a term?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Now I've said that twice. I'm starting to have come
certain to doubt myself. Holdless polus. The more I say it,
the more ridiculous it sounds. I'm going to stop saying
it now, but I'm going to stop saying anything that
is news. Talks have been for the week. We'll be
back with a weekend edition on Monday, and then I'll
start saying things again.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Then US Talkers Talking Said Bean. For more from News
Talk Said b listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk SEDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio
Used Talk SEDB. You Talk said, Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
May, beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's News.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I am Glen Hart and we are looking back at Thursday.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's been a week where people are moaned about.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Getting tickets for things, and Marcus is going to reflect
on that. Hot off the back of yesterday's guy who
was grumbling about getting a ticket for parking his caravan
where he wasn't supposed to.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
It's been an.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Exciting week for Marcus. Really, our drug use is.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Up because the prices are down, So this is great
news in terms of inflation, probably bad news in terms
of substance abuse. Speaking of seven says what lengths will
you go to to get a coffee? But before any
of that, the gang patch ban is now in effect.
Don't wear that patch or you'll get necked.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
We are talking about them doing crime to be like
violent crime to be able to get a patch. It's
not good hard work, it's bad hard work. So maybe
that could have been pointed out so that the readers
maybe felt a little less sympathy for the porolda pressed
gang member in that instance. I'll tell you what, actually,
none of this matters. I frankly don't care if there
is any evidence for or against the gang patch ban working.
(01:39):
And I actually don't make if. I don't care if
it actually makes us any safer or not safer. I
just like that the gang members have been reminded who's
boss and it's not them, And frankly, for the last
few years they have been allowed to think that they
are the boss and they get to call the shots.
And with them taking over roads in Hawks Bay, various
other cities across the country, basically taking over the whole
(02:00):
town of a portacky for a tongey and forcing normal
law abiding motorists to have to wait on the side
of the road and use the road when it suits
the gangs to let them use the road while they
had something akin to a guard of honor from police.
So after all of that shenanigans that was going on, well,
mates thought that they were in charge of the show.
I don't mind if the only thing that comes from
this patch ban is a reminder that they do not
(02:21):
set the rules in this country. We do those of
us who pay taxes, do the actual hard work, follow
the law, and vote for a tough on crime approach.
That is enough for me.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I feel like Heather has obviously been listened to this
podcast or perhaps the rewrap, because I made that same
point earlier in the week. I think about the in
order to get into a gang, you've got to do
some pretty bad stuff just to be in a gang.
So I'm not particularly interested in whether they have the
(02:53):
rights to do anything at that point.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
News Talk Zi been.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
That's pretty hardline and right wing. Glenn for you, you're
lefty liberal. Well, yeah, just calls it like a sees it.
I'm sure Ryan does too.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Everyone hates gangs unless you're in them. You hate them
because they intimidate, they cause misery, they beat their wives,
they do all sorts of awful things.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But I just.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
Worry that the gang patch ban in and of itself,
it's not really going to solve the underlying causes of it,
is it. And what I worry about is the waste
that could go into this, the waste of time, police energy,
and resources running after you. Every time Betty sees a
gang patch, he rings in one one one oh. I've
(03:40):
seen the makero mob, which is fine because I know
it's intimidating. I'm not just I'm not being disparaging of Betty. However,
that is going to tie up some police time which
could be better spent solving an actual crime. The other
problem here is the design of the insignia the gang patch.
So at the moment the police know the designs of
(04:02):
each of the patches or mobs patches, what they're apparently
doing is going down through and making so suttle changes,
adding words like mani fenua or changing this logo or
that logo. So sure, you will take the patch, you
will collect it as evidence, you will take it to court,
and the lawyers will argue it's different. I mean, and
(04:23):
where are we now with our legal bills and our
legal aid bills, and what have we actually achieved in
doing that? Have we reduced crime or have we increased
the cost of administering administering a fashion police policy?
Speaker 6 (04:39):
You know that's my only concern.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So you worry that it's going to be a bit
expensive basically to I mean, either you have a gang
crackdown or you don't. You can't just have half a
gang crackdown because you haven't got the budget for it. Yeah,
(05:02):
I mean I want them gone. That's how right wing
and not lefty liberal I am on this issue. Talk
So yeah, Ryan was I think a bit of a
lone voice on this station anyway in terms of the
gang patch debate. But a lot of people they've got
funny attitudes about speeding tickets for they It's that's been
(05:25):
quite revealing this.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Week talking about enforcement of traffic. I was kind of
surprised at how upset those people were by getting a ticket, Like,
when did that happen that we became So it's going
to be tough in traffic policing with people's attitude like that.
(05:49):
They're so opposed to any form of I mean, all
they say is revenue collecting. But I would imagine the
cost of handing out the fines and enforcing the fines
and collecting the fines. I don't know if there's much
money to be made now. I don't know that. And
(06:10):
like I thought a lot of things with numbers, you
could probably run the numbers two different way and get
two different results. But I think just calling it revenue
collecting is slightly slightly simplistic and a fairly easy thing
just to say to people it's revenue colleting. I'm not
quite sure if that's the case.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Which bit is the revenue collecting part, the giving out
the tickets or actually having the speed limits, because I guess,
I mean, we could try just not having speed limits
anywhere and see how that works out.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Give it a go. What's the worst that could happen?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Right, So, we've got concerning stats that had come out
around drug use.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Seems to be.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Skyrocketing, Cocaine very much back in fashion, and it's cheaper
than ever apparently, So is it.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Good news to the economy. Not quite. The issue is it.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
If there are many, many people, like if it's more
than one percent, if we're talking about ten percent of
the population using illicit drugs, then you'd think it would
be time to take the Portuguese approach and decriminalize drugs
to control the source and supply so that it wasn't
in the hands of the gangsters and the mobsters. And
we really don't want Mexican cartels here. Do we nothing
against Mexicans, just the cartels. But then you can't just
(07:42):
take the Portuguese experiment, which has worked in.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Portugal and.
Speaker 8 (07:47):
Just import it. Holess bowlness into your own country and
Canada and British Columbia. They became the first and only
province thus far to decriminalize the possession of a small
amount of hard drugs to reduce the barriers and stigma
quote unquote that bar those with severe drug addiction from
life saving help or treatment. It's running on a pilot
(08:11):
basis until twenty twenty six, but already it's a disaster.
Just in a year. It's come under increasing pressure from
British Columbian residents and political opponents who have called it
a harmful experiment with all the drug users out in
the streets and slumped over and unconscious, no safeguards for
the public, and one that's utterly failed to reduce drug
(08:33):
overdose deaths. So remember the sinnies that were doing so
much damage, especially among the homeless people that seems to
have they seem to have self regulated and thought, no,
we're not going to use those because we're going to
end up dying a horrible death. According to the latest
(08:55):
Drugs Trends survey, drug use is increasing across most drugs
across all regions of New Zealand. The price is dropping.
Its hootes were Hey, you know, party, party time as
we go into summer. But according to the Drug Foundation,
you know, three point six percent of the population using
(09:17):
illicit drugs. It's not a huge amount of people, is it.
So where are we at? What what numbers do you believe?
Is it worth having a moral crisis and you know,
raising the alarm about the amount of drug use and
the cartels moving into here or is it a relatively
small number of people? How is it that three point
(09:42):
six percent of the population can support all those gangs
and all those cartels.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Look, if I've learned one thing from watching Lioness, very
good show, very good tailor Sheridan show, he's the same
guy I wrote Yellowstone, it's about the CIA Special Operations
setting undercover agents too.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
During dangerous situations.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
But if I've relutely anything from that show and from
Sealed Team.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Self explanatory, it's that the Mexican cartels.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Who's behind the Mixican cartels? Who's supplying them? That it's China.
So it's actually and the reason that China are doing
that flooding the market with cheap drugs to destabilized to
the US see here butterfly flax its wings and before.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
You know it.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
You've got cheap cocaine in Silverdale.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Crazy news talk z it bean.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Now the coffee is legal, but just in terms of,
you know, while we're talking in substances that make you
feel good, But stealing it isn't.
Speaker 9 (11:03):
I just ordered two coffees, one for you and one
for me to down at the cafe across the road,
Scratch and.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And I just.
Speaker 9 (11:10):
I ordered them, and then I had sort of thought
about something else, and then I grabbed two and left
and walked out across the road. And I'd stolen someone's coffee.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Oh you didn't after you.
Speaker 9 (11:21):
Yeah, I'd stolen I'd stolen two innocent people's coffees. So
that might not be your order there?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
What is it? Some sort of Makachino number.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I told you, I'm not.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
I'm not at the moment, they collared me and brought
me back and gave me my coffee.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
So you can never go back there. No, No, that's
it for you.
Speaker 9 (11:38):
I don't know what I was thinking. Coffees can't be
made that quickly, you know, sometimes you zone out and
you do something ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
A coffee can't be made in fifteen seconds.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, now you're going to have your picture up there
at the cafe coffee steal a mate.
Speaker 9 (11:49):
My head, my head was in the clouds around the
excellent three hours of radio we've got planned.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, well, thank you for the coffee, mate.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
See, this is exactly what I was afraid of when
they when they gave this Heath guy the job, because
we had that noise complaint story the other day, didn't
We got the noise control officer who rang in and
said that he'd been called around to met Heath's place
once and now he's just taking people's coffees. He's just
(12:19):
so entitled he thinks he can just grab people's coffees.
Serious reservations about this guy, and we've just welcomed and
welcomed him in.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Hold Us polus. I don't think I've ever used the
term holeless polus before. Is it a term?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Now I've said that twice. I'm starting to have come
certain to doubt myself. Holdless polus. The more I say it,
the more ridiculous it sounds. I'm going to stop saying
it now, but I'm going to stop saying anything that
is news. Talks have been for the week. We'll be
back with a weekend edition on Monday, and then I'll
start saying things again.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Then US Talkers Talking Said Bean. For more from News
Talk Said b listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcast on iHeartRadio
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