November 25, 2024 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) If We Could Just Fix That/Retroactive Outrage/Razor Gets a Pass/Remember Plastic Bags?/The Dangers of DIY
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk SIDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talks Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful Beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart, and we
are looking back at Monday TJ Pirenara's controversial Harker. Some
reason we're talking about this, Scott Robinson's performance as a
(00:44):
coach of the All Blacks.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Generally, does you get a pass?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Remember plastic bags? Ryan Bridge looks back at plastic bags
and Marcus does a bit of YouTube DIY.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
But before any of that.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Obesity, we could just sort obesity. Maybe we could get
a lot of these hospital admissions down and things in
the health system would get better. I think that's what
the Clark Foundation is hoping it's going to happen. Seems
like a good idea in theory.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
They take the injection and they have something to eat,
and their body says, oh, that's enough, well done you.
We've got enough nutrition to get us through, and so
you know when to stop, which sounds amazingly easy. And
if that is all it is, yay, it will make
a huge difference. I mean obviously following the logic that
(01:43):
David Seymour applied to farmac. If you can get people
onto a zmpec or similar a weight drug that regulates
metabolism and regulates appetite, that has got to be better
in the long run than paying all of the health
bills further down the track. I would love to hear
(02:06):
from you from this one. I would love to hear
from those of you who have thought about weight, struggled
with weight, done something about weight. It occupies far too
much about time, but it is a very very real problem.
I mean, look at the figures. Obesity has overtaken smoking
(02:28):
as the leading cause of death and disability in this country.
We need to do something about it.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
What do we do?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Wonder if that injection.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Or any of those drugs, those anti obesity drugs would
work on me, because I feel like my issue is
not that I'm hungry and not that I want to
put more food into my body. It's just an oral fixation.
I just said, constantly got to be putting something in
the mouth.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Have I shared too much?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Maybe news talk has it been.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So the more I think about this, the weirder. It's
all these people who are outraged by TJ.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Pier and Ares Harker carry on.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
But I'm I'm betting one hundred percent they had no
idea what the carry on was until somebody translated it
all for them, for them, after.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Them, well after the fact.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's the oddest thing to be outraged retrospectively like that.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Quite a few of those rusted on view as I
just described to you, would actually disagree with TJ as
to whether or not they support the he Koy And
given how intense this Treaty Principles and Hecoy debate is,
I reckon, quite a few of them might just feel
kind of a bit annoyed with him that he's presumed
that he represents the views of the whole country with
that haka, because he doesn't. And this may be a
(03:56):
surprise to TJR. I don't know, but if he goes
and he has a look at the most recent polling,
he will find that almost twice as many key we
actually like Seymour's principles idea as oppose it. So the
support that the Hikoy has is probably a lot less
than the support that David Seymour has based on that
polling anyway, So for TJ, well known anti meat, anti
(04:18):
government chap. No problem at all with what he's done, right,
because he's heading off on a new career and his
water off a ducks back, and who cares. He's made
a statement and we're all talking about him. He's probably
stoked about that. For New Zealand Rugby, though, fighting to
retain its audience, and for Scott Robertson, fighting to prove
himself as the new All Blacks coach.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Big mistake.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I would like to know where this all came.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
From, yeah, and who it was I presume, yeah, I
just haven't heard who translated them and hosted about it,
presumably supporting what barn Arra said, and then somebody saw
(05:01):
that he got upset about that.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I mean, do we know what.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Other people who've led other harkers have said, Like, is
there a review of there every time?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
It's just at this time because it was I did.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, Like I say, I find it a bad odd
and I don't know how much difference it makes.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's not like.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You're think any of the Italians knew what the hell
he was talking about.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Anyway, Let's move on qu's talk sidden.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
As Heather mentioned here, Scott Robertson as the coach of
we all work to these days. Has he had a
good season?
Speaker 7 (05:41):
Yeah, we all wanted him. Well, I wanted him. I
love the man. I enjoyed his break dancing fantastically successful
at the Crusaders. We tortured Fozzy. Yes, and look he's rebuilding. Obviously,
we know that he's rebuilding the team. We had losses
against Argentina, South Africa and France, but we beat England's
your what's your analysis of the year? How do you feel?
(06:02):
How are you feeling about Razor going forward? Are you positive?
Do you think we're on track to win the World Cup?
Speaker 8 (06:07):
A lot of years, a lot of new players he's
brought in over that year. Ten debutant's first time All Blacks.
That's a big number and a lot of have been
made of the fact that he is having to rebuild
the team and now the speculation that Muwanga might be
coming back into the team next year. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
Yeah, he's getting his team together. But then again, he
put forward as strong as possible team against Italy and
on Friday were going geez, what's he doing to Italy?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (06:31):
What did they deserve to do to deserve us? And
then it turned out to be a pretty underwhelming performance
against Italy. In fact that if it wasn't for a
ridiculous clearing CAC near the end, then it would have
been even closer than it was.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Hey, it's my favorite thing when the All Blacks don't
beat a team by as much as everybody thinks they
should have beaten them. So it's not that they lost
to them, they just didn't win by as much as
they should have.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I love it when that.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Happens, almost as much as I love people complaining about
something that they didn't know was happening at the time.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
The city wonderful.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Those people who are upset about DJA Baron Arrison Harker
at the majority of them. The thing they really outset
them is that they felt like he was making foll
of them because they didn't understand that it was on
the time to stop doing hacker. Shall I stop going
on about Hakker?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yes? But it's still plastic bags instead.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
How is this an issue that probably isn't that Ryan
Read remembers pecic bags fondly?
Speaker 9 (07:27):
Does he who's profiting from this?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That's the other thing I wonder.
Speaker 9 (07:30):
I don't know how much supermarkets make every time I
forget my reusable plastic bags and I have to buy
the paper ones. But the price of the paper one
the other day that I paid was forty cents, and
I can remember when they first started telling them, it
was like ten or twenty cents, So there's been a
bit of inflation going on since then. And now they've
got Christmas trees printed on them. How much extra is
(07:54):
that costing. I don't want a Christmas tree on my
paper bag, thank you very much. I want the paper
bag not to break just because I put some wet
milk in it. So annoying. And Australia coson Wall was
apparent profit. This was after they changed their rules, profit
seventy one million dollars a year off their reusable bags.
(08:18):
Now I don't know what the number is here. I
have no idea, but I would have thought we'd be
asking ourselves a few questions. Do I want us going
back to plastic bags? No, I don't necessarily want us
going back to plastic bags, But could we please know
a couple of things. Were our bags actually ending up
(08:40):
in the ocean in the first place, or was that
other people's bags?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You know?
Speaker 9 (08:44):
Were you throwing your plastic bag in the ocean when
you went and checked the beach. Were the bags from Countdown,
New Zealand?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
And how much are the supermarkets making out of us
for the bags that break before we get them to
the boot of our cars. Just a couple of things
I'd like to know.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I just wish the people at my house who.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Who never seem to get this shopping in a reusable
bag and come back with the paper bags every time,
wouldn't they then try and.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Dash the paper bags and the drawer where all the
bags go in the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Because it's like, it's not an infinitely large space, it's
not the tardest that for it stops, squash it and
we never use them. We never reuse the paper bags.
And you just, you know, up with this massive stack
of paper bags put them in the recycling How hard
is it? Is this the right form for me to
complain about things like that? Because my family's not even
(09:42):
listened to this podcast anyway?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Probably probably isn't news talk?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Has it been just on while we're on a little
domestic job. What has Marcus been.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Using YouTube as a as a computer to help them
with some.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Of his home DII sense of a dodge to me, what.
Speaker 10 (10:00):
Did you manage to fix using YouTube this weekend? Because
I had remarkable, quite a productive weekend, although I almost
ruined a lawnmower, and I almost ruined the lawnmower through stupidity,
(10:24):
and I'm not quite sure whether I can actually tell
that story to everyone. Was when I tell stories about
my own vulnerabilities, you don't even know who's going to
portray it out of context. But anyway, yeah, that's right,
and I just about did something really stupid with the lawnmower. Well,
(10:46):
I did do it, but I don't think I'm confident
enough to explain what I did or why I did it.
I'm not explaining explaining why.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I did it.
Speaker 10 (10:57):
I don't quite know why I did it apart from
a mode of mes stupidity. So I think i'll bury
that one for a while. Vanessa doesn't know, which I'm
sort of concerned about that also, But yes, boy, I
board did I need a story of lordmower. And it
wasn't good, and I'm lucky I didn't. It could have
(11:17):
been a lot worse. That could have been fires, it
could have been all manner of things. And the remarkable
thing is if I had all the talkback slots between
now and twenty thirty five. I don't think anyone could
guess the act of stupidity I did with a lawn mower.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
You'd had to be fairly careful.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I'm assuming it was replacing the blade or shouting the
blade and not doing it up toughly or something, but
who knows. Boyd you know, wedge something into a position
where it shouldn't be for safety reasons and then very
quickly found out why.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
But he's I think probably that was probably the more.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I didn't listen to the whole show, obviously because it
was last night while I was asleep. So when I
say I didn't listen to the whole show, I didn't
listen to any of the shows.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Except for that. But we've just played there.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
But I can I can imagine that there were quite
a few people who talk about how some of that
at DIY. It's because the YouTube lead DIY. You've got
to do it a secret and not let your partner
know that you've done it, and if it turns out
all right, that's good, and if it doesn't, then hopefully
you can keep the ramifications of that secret as well.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I think I think we can all relate to that, can't.
We can't.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It's just me and Marcus Bradac. We'll leave out there.
Then I am being hot. That has been news towards
he has been. It's kind of a DIY podcast in
many ways. I do it myself and I'll do it
again for you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
See then news Talk has talking zid been. For more
from news Talk, said b. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk SIDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talks Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful Beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart, and we
are looking back at Monday TJ Pirenara's controversial Harker. Some
reason we're talking about this, Scott Robinson's performance as a
(00:44):
coach of the All Blacks.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Generally, does you get a pass?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Remember plastic bags? Ryan Bridge looks back at plastic bags
and Marcus does a bit of YouTube DIY.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
But before any of that.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Obesity, we could just sort obesity. Maybe we could get
a lot of these hospital admissions down and things in
the health system would get better. I think that's what
the Clark Foundation is hoping it's going to happen. Seems
like a good idea in theory.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
They take the injection and they have something to eat,
and their body says, oh, that's enough, well done you.
We've got enough nutrition to get us through, and so
you know when to stop, which sounds amazingly easy. And
if that is all it is, yay, it will make
a huge difference. I mean obviously following the logic that
(01:43):
David Seymour applied to farmac. If you can get people
onto a zmpec or similar a weight drug that regulates
metabolism and regulates appetite, that has got to be better
in the long run than paying all of the health
bills further down the track. I would love to hear
(02:06):
from you from this one. I would love to hear
from those of you who have thought about weight, struggled
with weight, done something about weight. It occupies far too
much about time, but it is a very very real problem.
I mean, look at the figures. Obesity has overtaken smoking
(02:28):
as the leading cause of death and disability in this country.
We need to do something about it.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
What do we do?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Wonder if that injection.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Or any of those drugs, those anti obesity drugs would
work on me, because I feel like my issue is
not that I'm hungry and not that I want to
put more food into my body. It's just an oral fixation.
I just said, constantly got to be putting something in
the mouth.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Have I shared too much?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Maybe news talk has it been.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So the more I think about this, the weirder. It's
all these people who are outraged by TJ.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Pier and Ares Harker carry on.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
But I'm I'm betting one hundred percent they had no
idea what the carry on was until somebody translated it
all for them, for them, after.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Them, well after the fact.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's the oddest thing to be outraged retrospectively like that.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Quite a few of those rusted on view as I
just described to you, would actually disagree with TJ as
to whether or not they support the he Koy And
given how intense this Treaty Principles and Hecoy debate is,
I reckon, quite a few of them might just feel
kind of a bit annoyed with him that he's presumed
that he represents the views of the whole country with
that haka, because he doesn't. And this may be a
(03:56):
surprise to TJR. I don't know, but if he goes
and he has a look at the most recent polling,
he will find that almost twice as many key we
actually like Seymour's principles idea as oppose it. So the
support that the Hikoy has is probably a lot less
than the support that David Seymour has based on that
polling anyway, So for TJ, well known anti meat, anti
(04:18):
government chap. No problem at all with what he's done, right,
because he's heading off on a new career and his
water off a ducks back, and who cares. He's made
a statement and we're all talking about him. He's probably
stoked about that. For New Zealand Rugby, though, fighting to
retain its audience, and for Scott Robertson, fighting to prove
himself as the new All Blacks coach.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Big mistake.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I would like to know where this all came.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
From, yeah, and who it was I presume, yeah, I
just haven't heard who translated them and hosted about it,
presumably supporting what barn Arra said, and then somebody saw
(05:01):
that he got upset about that.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I mean, do we know what.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Other people who've led other harkers have said, Like, is
there a review of there every time?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
It's just at this time because it was I did.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, Like I say, I find it a bad odd
and I don't know how much difference it makes.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's not like.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You're think any of the Italians knew what the hell
he was talking about.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Anyway, Let's move on qu's talk sidden.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
As Heather mentioned here, Scott Robertson as the coach of
we all work to these days. Has he had a
good season?
Speaker 7 (05:41):
Yeah, we all wanted him. Well, I wanted him. I
love the man. I enjoyed his break dancing fantastically successful
at the Crusaders. We tortured Fozzy. Yes, and look he's rebuilding. Obviously,
we know that he's rebuilding the team. We had losses
against Argentina, South Africa and France, but we beat England's
your what's your analysis of the year? How do you feel?
(06:02):
How are you feeling about Razor going forward? Are you positive?
Do you think we're on track to win the World Cup?
Speaker 8 (06:07):
A lot of years, a lot of new players he's
brought in over that year. Ten debutant's first time All Blacks.
That's a big number and a lot of have been
made of the fact that he is having to rebuild
the team and now the speculation that Muwanga might be
coming back into the team next year. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
Yeah, he's getting his team together. But then again, he
put forward as strong as possible team against Italy and
on Friday were going geez, what's he doing to Italy?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (06:31):
What did they deserve to do to deserve us? And
then it turned out to be a pretty underwhelming performance
against Italy. In fact that if it wasn't for a
ridiculous clearing CAC near the end, then it would have
been even closer than it was.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Hey, it's my favorite thing when the All Blacks don't
beat a team by as much as everybody thinks they
should have beaten them. So it's not that they lost
to them, they just didn't win by as much as
they should have.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I love it when that.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Happens, almost as much as I love people complaining about
something that they didn't know was happening at the time.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
The city wonderful.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Those people who are upset about DJA Baron Arrison Harker
at the majority of them. The thing they really outset
them is that they felt like he was making foll
of them because they didn't understand that it was on
the time to stop doing hacker. Shall I stop going
on about Hakker?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yes? But it's still plastic bags instead.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
How is this an issue that probably isn't that Ryan
Read remembers pecic bags fondly?
Speaker 9 (07:27):
Does he who's profiting from this?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That's the other thing I wonder.
Speaker 9 (07:30):
I don't know how much supermarkets make every time I
forget my reusable plastic bags and I have to buy
the paper ones. But the price of the paper one
the other day that I paid was forty cents, and
I can remember when they first started telling them, it
was like ten or twenty cents, So there's been a
bit of inflation going on since then. And now they've
got Christmas trees printed on them. How much extra is
(07:54):
that costing. I don't want a Christmas tree on my
paper bag, thank you very much. I want the paper
bag not to break just because I put some wet
milk in it. So annoying. And Australia coson Wall was
apparent profit. This was after they changed their rules, profit
seventy one million dollars a year off their reusable bags.
(08:18):
Now I don't know what the number is here. I
have no idea, but I would have thought we'd be
asking ourselves a few questions. Do I want us going
back to plastic bags? No, I don't necessarily want us
going back to plastic bags, But could we please know
a couple of things. Were our bags actually ending up
(08:40):
in the ocean in the first place, or was that
other people's bags?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You know?
Speaker 9 (08:44):
Were you throwing your plastic bag in the ocean when
you went and checked the beach. Were the bags from Countdown,
New Zealand?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
And how much are the supermarkets making out of us
for the bags that break before we get them to
the boot of our cars. Just a couple of things
I'd like to know.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I just wish the people at my house who.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Who never seem to get this shopping in a reusable
bag and come back with the paper bags every time,
wouldn't they then try and.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Dash the paper bags and the drawer where all the
bags go in the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Because it's like, it's not an infinitely large space, it's
not the tardest that for it stops, squash it and
we never use them. We never reuse the paper bags.
And you just, you know, up with this massive stack
of paper bags put them in the recycling How hard
is it? Is this the right form for me to
complain about things like that? Because my family's not even
(09:42):
listened to this podcast anyway?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Probably probably isn't news talk?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Has it been just on while we're on a little
domestic job. What has Marcus been.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Using YouTube as a as a computer to help them
with some.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Of his home DII sense of a dodge to me, what.
Speaker 10 (10:00):
Did you manage to fix using YouTube this weekend? Because
I had remarkable, quite a productive weekend, although I almost
ruined a lawnmower, and I almost ruined the lawnmower through stupidity,
(10:24):
and I'm not quite sure whether I can actually tell
that story to everyone. Was when I tell stories about
my own vulnerabilities, you don't even know who's going to
portray it out of context. But anyway, yeah, that's right,
and I just about did something really stupid with the lawnmower. Well,
(10:46):
I did do it, but I don't think I'm confident
enough to explain what I did or why I did it.
I'm not explaining explaining why.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I did it.
Speaker 10 (10:57):
I don't quite know why I did it apart from
a mode of mes stupidity. So I think i'll bury
that one for a while. Vanessa doesn't know, which I'm
sort of concerned about that also, But yes, boy, I
board did I need a story of lordmower. And it
wasn't good, and I'm lucky I didn't. It could have
(11:17):
been a lot worse. That could have been fires, it
could have been all manner of things. And the remarkable
thing is if I had all the talkback slots between
now and twenty thirty five. I don't think anyone could
guess the act of stupidity I did with a lawn mower.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
You'd had to be fairly careful.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I'm assuming it was replacing the blade or shouting the
blade and not doing it up toughly or something, but
who knows. Boyd you know, wedge something into a position
where it shouldn't be for safety reasons and then very
quickly found out why.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
But he's I think probably that was probably the more.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I didn't listen to the whole show, obviously because it
was last night while I was asleep. So when I
say I didn't listen to the whole show, I didn't
listen to any of the shows.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Except for that. But we've just played there.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
But I can I can imagine that there were quite
a few people who talk about how some of that
at DIY. It's because the YouTube lead DIY. You've got
to do it a secret and not let your partner
know that you've done it, and if it turns out
all right, that's good, and if it doesn't, then hopefully
you can keep the ramifications of that secret as well.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I think I think we can all relate to that, can't.
We can't.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It's just me and Marcus Bradac. We'll leave out there.
Then I am being hot. That has been news towards
he has been. It's kind of a DIY podcast in
many ways. I do it myself and I'll do it
again for you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
See then news Talk has talking zid been. For more
from news Talk, said b. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcast on iHeartRadio
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