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November 27, 2024 • 16 mins

FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) Does It Really Mean Anything?/Social Housing Solutions/More On Ryan's Bags/Limitless Secret Santa/Podcast Roulette

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
You Talk said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to
the bean First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart,
and we are looking back at Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
And people are saying to ask what the government's doing about.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Social housing because they're doing a lot of stuff about
a lot of stuff, but have they been doing much
about that?

Speaker 3 (00:43):
For the second time this week, Ryan.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Is talking about supermarket shopping bags.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
And be in his bonnet there.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Marcus has been included in the Secret Center email and
we're going to play a little bit of podcast roulette.
I know you guys love that, so we're going to
do that at the end of the podcast. Thanks to
Matt and Tyler in the afternoon show. Can't wait to
hear what's going to go on there before any of that. Yes, oh,

(01:14):
cr another fifty basis points? What did they call it?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Slashed man? We're obsessed with us at the moment.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
We're in recession. We know this now, right per capita
GDP which means your personal GDP that has gone back backwards.
That's the wrong direction. It's gone backwards four point six
percent in the last two years or so. That is
worse than what we went through in the global financial crisis.
Why are we still in restrictive mode? As Kiwibank points out,

(01:49):
hardship withdrawals from Kiwi Saver have spiked from ten million
dollars in January last year to thirty eight million dollars
in October this year. Now, those withdrawals are not easy
to make. You don't just rock up to your kiw
Saver provider and go you have some cash. Thanks. You've
got to be in big financial stock and you've got
to be able to prove it and only then do
they give you the money. Now, Treasure has warned, I

(02:09):
think it was last week that the economy is that
much more stuff than they even thought. That they're now
going to downgrade their forecasts in the next few weeks
and it looks like surplus in twenty seven is not
going to happen. So, as always, very very grateful, very
happy to see the ocr come down, happy for the relief.
Just wondering though if yet again the Reserve Bank is
making a mistake and keeping this economy under the crusher

(02:31):
when they actually don't have to.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Did you have to do economic studies or something like
that at school? I vaguely remember that we had to
do it up until a point, and then it became
sort of an optional thing.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
And did it become accounting? I think? Is it called
financial literacy these days? I don't look.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I honestly don't even know, because there were only a
very specific type of people who were interested in that
kind of stuff, and the rest of us pretty much
turned out.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
I believe it was where they learned.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
They taught us how to check, and of course you
can't even I don't think anybody even has those anymore?

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Do they checks?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
So that's changed a bit. I'm assuming that these days
it's all about the OCR and GDP and CPI, because I.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Never heard of any of these things until I did
this job. Obsessed with the OCR.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
And I'll tell you what I feel about the same
about my personal finances today as I did yesterday this
time yesterday.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
But there's probably something I'm listening news talk. Has it been?

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Of course, if you can't afford a house, even to
rent one, government will probably help you out there. This
has been a bonus contention for a number of years.
Isn't it just who's getting help power?

Speaker 3 (04:11):
And is there enough? It's a sticky situation.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Do we need to put more in the hands of
the community housing providers? And will these changes, as far
as you're concerned, make it easier for them to do so?
I think the leasing will probably make it easier. Whether
the changes to the contracts for new housing supply will
make it more intractive for investors, that will be for
them to decide. Do we want kind or to fulfill

(04:40):
its vision of being a developer, bold visionary, large scale
developer of urban renewal projects. I mean, I get where
they were coming from, but they couldn't deliver. They didn't
have the money, they didn't have the governance. They were
operating in a time when the housing market was going

(05:04):
completely and utterly insane and the post pandem years. It
was a perfect storm. So if you're looking for a home,
do you care whether it comes from caying or or
do you care whether it comes from a community housing provider?
If you're living in an area where social housing developments

(05:24):
are being built, are they being done so thoughtfully? Could
we do with a bit more of the vision that
labor had of you know, social housing as were a
mix of private and public housing. I totally get where
he coming from. But we didn't have the money and
it wasn't the right time and they didn't know typical
they had great ideas, but no idea on how to

(05:46):
deliver anyway. Love to hear your thoughts on this on
social housing full stop. You know where it's being done,
Is it being done well? Or will it have to
be done again in another five to six years. What
is the role of the state to provide public housing?
Should it be made, As Karen mcinnaughty said, just give

(06:07):
them loans, give the community housing providers loans. Let them
get on with it because they do it well.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I was listening to a podcast on my way into
work today and they were having a bit of a
go at billionaires in facts multimillionaires, and they were asking
the question, do you really need more than about ten
million dollars as an individual? And after that, could you

(06:42):
not just start buying a few houses.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
For people who don't have houses. I thought it was
so good question.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I couldn't quite figure out a reason why they couldn't
do that. Again, I'm probably missing something.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Us talk said, right, I'm.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Not quite sure what happened here. I heard Ryan doing
this yesterday morning. He was on about supermarket shopping bags again.
He had already done an editorial on there earlier in
the week.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
So you chop down trees, you make paper bags, and
then you print more trees on them, and we're supposed
to be saving the planet. This is stupid, it's dumb,
and it's forty cents. It's a lot of money. It's
a lot more than free, which is what we used
to get the plastic bags for. And they're not reusable.
You put a two liter of milk in there, it's wet,
it's sulky, and it just falls straight through. It's not

(07:34):
a reusable thing. And here's the problem I think with
environment and no one and people are probably over the
paper bag thing and used to it by now and
take your own bags as the other thing. But I forgot,
So what are you going to do? But here's the
thing with environmental costly environmental policies. This is stuff like

(07:54):
you know, your emissions trading scheme charge on the petrol
that you put in your tank, or on farmers or
the ute tax or the cycle wave bells that we
are paying for. The issue with all of this is
getting us on board with paying to fix the planet
when we're such a small part of it. You know,

(08:15):
are we really saving all the dolphins and whales and
turtles in the ocean by paying forty cents for a
paper bag at countdown?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
No?

Speaker 6 (08:26):
Because the ocean's still filled with plastic. So what's the
point is you know, shi jingpings still opening cold fine
power plants?

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (08:35):
Is Donald Trump about to start drilling healthful leather for
more oil?

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (08:41):
So you know, what are we doing? What difference are
we making? Why should we bother? They just had the
climate change conference in Azerbaijan and the Petro steak for
goodness sakes, and everyone flew there.

Speaker 7 (08:53):
On an aeroplane.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
And I'm paying forty cents for a paper bag?

Speaker 2 (08:58):
How do you forget to take your own bag? Don't
you just always have them in the booty.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Of the card? Doesn't everybody do that?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I feel like this whole thing is just about He's
had one experience where he forgot to take his own
bag and then he had to pay forty cents for
one of a Christmas tree printed on it.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Who else is going to pay for those bags?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
He's right though, you can't put anything from the Frozens.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Or Chill department in a paper bag, can you.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
It's just basic physics. Modernization happens makes the paper wet.
That's the end of the paper bag. It's that perfect solution,
isn't there? Okay, I tell you what I'm looking forward
to podcast Roulette in a couple of minutes. Normally it's
a bit of Marcus's audio that I use for that,

(09:55):
but not this time. This time you're talking about the
Secret Center.

Speaker 8 (09:59):
There was an email at work right and it was
saying about people that wanted to get involved with a
secret Center. And we've got a guy's a bit of
a self starter and he takes upon himself to organize
a secret Center. And I say good on him because
he's a good unit and he's got a sense of enthusiasm.

(10:20):
That's good. And the email says it's time and the
year against Secret Center twenty dollars a minimum. I always
thought with Secret Center it was five. When did it
become twenty? Because I'm thinking, actually, because most people with
Secret Center will be junk from Temu. I'd imagine for

(10:42):
families actually in the bread basket on Christmas Day, you
go fifty bucks limit, but for the workplace that would
be five dollars. Mind you, I might be able to touch
at the bottom of the south thid. I might have
forgotten about the inflation that likes that. So anyway, just
a quick round up. You can tell me what your
work's limit is for secret Center? Is it five?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Is at ten?

Speaker 8 (11:04):
Is at twenty? Because twenty to me it seems steep,
but I'm not. I mean, I appreciate the guy's ability
to organize the whole beautifully written email too, because it's
in the colors of Christmas and alternates red and green.
But what's the limit this year for secret Does that
seem about?

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Write twenty dollars?

Speaker 8 (11:26):
Maybe forty minutes work for the average wage, would it?

Speaker 3 (11:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (11:33):
Bearing in mind, if you are involved in Secret Center,
you can't use as an excuse to harass your workmates
because before long people will be going before the tribunal
say that I was harassed at work because I've not
given raises for my Secret Center or things like that.
You can't kind of or swimming pills or stuff like that.

(11:55):
You can't do that.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
And I wouldn't mind the swimming pearls. I think I
can probably do with those.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I'm not going in it though I have done the
Secret Center before, but it does involve staying a little
bit later at work. And also sometimes you get somebody
who you have no idea who it is, and that's
not quite so fun because then you've got to ask
people what this person's like, you know, do they need
some swimming pills?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
What are these swimming pills? That magic you're talking about? Anyway, But.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
He also completely missed the fact, and I thought that
this was interesting. And Ethan, that's who he was talking about,
who wrote the email that it was a twenty dollars minimum.
In the email, it wasn't a maximum. You can start
with twenty dollars and work your way up from there.
And I don't know if that was a mistake from Ethan.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Or if people have just had a paradigm shift.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
There is no upper limit. Buy somebody a car, if
you want to buy them a social house, if.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
You want to news talks.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
It been right here at the moment we've all been
waiting for podcast really at this time.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Courtesy of the Afternoon Math and Taylor. The audio is
simply cool. Hair gel and bathroom hanging on to your hats.

Speaker 9 (13:17):
Guys, got a question for you. You know, my hair
is a bit fluffy. It's a bit boofy today. I've
just washed it.

Speaker 7 (13:22):
Hard to tell though, because you love a good cap.
You've got some nice cap.

Speaker 9 (13:25):
Look if my hair isn't a bad state, or we're
a cat. But I was just in the bathroom here
at News Talks. He'd be in the palatial News Talk's
head be my Costing Memorial bathrooms.

Speaker 7 (13:33):
It's beautiful bathroom.

Speaker 9 (13:34):
And someone had left their hair gel there. They'd gone
on to do their hair, not the sort of their
hair fudge. It was in like a little tin, and
they left the lid off it, and they'd been doing
their hair and they've walked out. Is it kocher for
me to just dip my fingers in there and do
my hair with that yuck?

Speaker 7 (13:50):
What was it like brool cream or something? Was that clay?

Speaker 9 (13:53):
It was sort of some whitey, sort of sort of
fudgy kind of stuff. I want to find out with
the moral before I admit to what I have or
have not done.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
I want what's the moral? What's the can?

Speaker 9 (14:06):
Because they've left it hanging out there? I mean, is
it a hygiens issue for me. You wouldn't put your
fingers in someone else's fudge because they left it lying out.

Speaker 7 (14:14):
Well, I think you're well within your rights to dip
your fingers in that fudge. But if they did, they
walk in as you were about to sample some of
their croup.

Speaker 9 (14:22):
No, I know that the bathroom was empty.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
It was just me.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
Well, then it's free for all. It might have been
Hoskings here, staybe it is. Maybe that's supplied by the company.

Speaker 9 (14:30):
He is great here. Yeah, I could go for that Hosking. Look,
I mean I wouldn't have someone left their role on
deodoran in there. I wouldn't be I wouldn't be getting into.

Speaker 7 (14:38):
A step too far, is it? Yeah, a moral dilemma.

Speaker 9 (14:42):
You know, these moral dilemmas. They pop up in life
all the time.

Speaker 7 (14:44):
They certainly do few texts here and Matt, go for
your life.

Speaker 9 (14:46):
If someone stupid enough to leave their fudge out in public,
fill your boots. Someone else has said, hell, yeah, Hosking
won't mind if you use his here fudge.

Speaker 7 (14:53):
There you go, Well, we'll find me tomorrow morning.

Speaker 9 (14:55):
I mean, I'm not sure if it's Hosking. I'm just
saying it could be you know, we know he uses
the bathroom.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
Yeah, he's got good here, Hosking.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
There's twice in the Tyler claim that hust care is
good here.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
I refute that.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I've always sort of it as being all over the place.
That might just be me being jealous because I don't
have any hearing he does. Also, I'm uncomfortable about the
idea of fingering fudge in the bathroom. I sometimes it

(15:30):
depends how public the bathroom is too. You know, when
you're in a public bathroom sometimes and you and you
know there's a liquid soap for Spencer, and.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
You think, does that really look good soap in there?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
So that's a that's a bit of an issue, honey,
isn't it that we're this evolved society and yet there's
still a lot of weird stuff that goes.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
On in public bathrooms. Probably, I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Did that episode of podcasts really blow up in our face?

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Or was it all right? You'd be the judge if
you thought it was all right. You'll probably be back
here again tomorrow and we'll do it all again. We
can't promise podcast really, it just happens sporadically. But we'll
see you then.

Speaker 8 (16:16):
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Speaker 1 (16:21):
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