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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glenn Hart. Today the
ongoing dramas in the wake of the murder of the
health insurance CEO in the United States. We're going to
get into some holiday eating habits. And speaking of food,
(00:44):
we've got a canned food rivalry to sort out.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I make that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Did I get a bit of sistle going around there?
Does that sound as boring as it probably is? It's
not really a promise to make promises you can't keep.
At the end of the podcast. But before any of that,
so the fairy non announcement, we've still really none the wiser.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Are we long time coming for something that wasn't really anything.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
We don't know how much it will cost yet. We
may know that around the middle of next year, and
I do understand the commercial sensitivities of that. When things
are going up for tender and the like, then of
course there are commercial sensitivities to get the right deal.
There's been assurances that it will be less than what
the original deal was going to be, and I would
absolutely imagine you could. Our quick Google shows roll on,
(01:39):
roll off fairies available for a song around the world.
But we're getting new ones and that's great, we're future proofing.
But it's really not the solution I was expecting. It's
an announcement of a plan, which is all very shades
of Labor Government's past, and just on that Labour's gone
to town. Of course, Chris Hopkins called it an announcement
(02:03):
of an announcement. The only reason that phrase exists is
because of your government, Chris, your government. That was just
we'd never heard of announcements of announcements before you came along,
so using it now is a little bit rich when
it was invented for your government. He's also astounded. I'm
(02:24):
sorry you don't get to be astounded. Not yet. The
memory of your own omni shambles which got us into
this mess is still far, far too raw.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I mean, Carrie's right, Hapkins doesn't get to have any
say about us at all, given they got us into
this mess in the first place. But I think we're
allowed to use the announcement of an announcement thing.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
No we.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
News talk zeph been.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Anyway, Let's see if Andrew Dickins is quite so forgiving
of the Coalition government and their year of inaction on
the fairies.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Herold's headline this morning is fairy plan late on key details,
no kidding like details on a boat of orphan a terminal.
Basically that's everything about about a ferry. When Nichola Willis
blew up Kiwi Rowl's plan for new fairies a year ago,
she promised a better plan. Is this a better plan?
So they're going to form a new company to buy
some fairies. No news about which fairies, which fairies, what
(03:25):
kind of ferries whatever, They're going to form a new company.
That's two seconds work. Nothing about what's happening port side.
Also an invitation to private industry to come up with
a better solution. So let's review again. No new fairies,
no new ports, no ships ordered, and seemingly no idea
that private industry already provides a service that is Bluebridge.
(03:46):
You're going to say, maybe a private person could come
up with some interest, Why don't you just close down
the ferries and give them all to Bluebridge, Because that's
what you just said Nicola was Finance Minister. Chris Hipkins said,
this was an announcement of an announcement. How rich is that.
It's exactly what we lampooned him for. But is it
an announcement of an announcement? It is rather because you
(04:08):
know they've got to still announce the ferries, the wharves
and the terminal. It was ideological. Don't you think the
government came in saw government spending and this government doesn't
make spending, so they canceled it without thinking about the
long term consequences. It was an ideological These guys are
sounding more and more like the Labor Party every day
when I talk like this. This was not based on
business practice or financial logic. It's not on brand and
(04:31):
it's harming reputationally. Think about this as a business. They
broke a contract for ships that was a good deal.
Breaking contracts not good puts flag on head. Not to
mention the break free, which some people are saying could
be as highest round of mill. Now we have basically
a company owned by the government desperately in the market,
and the providers of new boats or second hand boats
(04:52):
will go to these guys a week. Aren't they look
at their week in possession that desperate for a boat.
Let's sell them this piece of rust. The government just
needs a boat to save their face. Sellers will no
longer be sharpening their pencils. Portside costs continue to escalate.
This is a them that prides itself on business acumen
and ability emergers and acquisitions, and they've given themselves a weekend.
(05:14):
Going forward, they don't seem to know what to do,
and so they're doing nothing, and when they do do something,
they won't have a strong position.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
It's a it's a complete fungal. It really is.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
They really dropped the ball on this one. Did they
just did somebody just forget to do anything. That's what
it feels like, is that they all just forgot to
do something about it.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And then somebody said.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Oh, shure, the theories, Oh that's right.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
We're going to get onto that.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
US talk side.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I don't know that we would normally pay this much
attention to a a New York shooting, except that it's
that it was the slaying of a of a CEO
of a health insurance company carriage in the United States,
(06:11):
and so immediately, of course that divided. It was a
bit divided response It got political straightaway, didn't it. If
you're one of those people chairing on the alleged CEO
shooter in the United States, then shame on you. I
wasn't surprised to see a Pennsylvania university professor yesterday literally
dancing on TikTok celebrating the fact that the shooter went
(06:32):
to her college. What a shallow and ironically for an academic,
rather unthoughtful thing to do. It's not vigilante justice, as
some people are saying. In fact, based on the reports
of his manifesto and the alleged motive, it sounds more
like domestic terrorism. Terrorism's basically violence in the name of
a political cause or ends, in this case, allegedly a
(06:54):
hate for corporate America. Vigilante justice is taking retribution over
somebody harming you, like somebody kills your friend and you
beat that person up. Also not on but different. What's
more worrying is how many Americans, indeed people over the world,
are celebrating this. America has had two assassination attempts during
(07:15):
the last election, how many more next time.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
A poll last.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
Month found most of the people in America most Americans
oppose political violence, but Shockingly, one in five US adults
believe Americans may have to resort to violence to get
their country back on track. In the United States of
America the most advanced democracy on the face of the planet.
The difference between a place like Syria, which has been
(07:40):
on the news a lot this week, and America is
the respect for the rule of law. The callous reaction
to the CEO shooter from some shows that respect for
that rule of law is diminishing, and that is a
shameful thing.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Well, it's a natural regression, though, isn't it. I mean,
people have just become so disillusioned with it. I really
take issue with Ryan naming America as the most advanced democracy.
I think it's been particularly advanced for quite some time.
(08:13):
And yeah, if he thinks that people haven't been if
this hasn't been bubbling along beneath the service surface for
a while now, he's mister trick bear.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So yeah, I do fear that this.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Is just the first of many incidents like this, and the.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Comparing it to Syria might not be that inaccurate. All Right,
that all got a bit heavy.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Let's get into some real philosophical questions now, Like, is
it rude not to pig out at Christmas.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I'm fully on the bandwagon that it is rude that
if I turn up to the Christmas meal and they've
done all this work and there's all this beautiful food
and pastries and all this rubbish food that tastes really good,
I go to town. I think that you absolutely have to.
But it just carries on for me in the summer,
you know. Then you get into New Year and there's
more cocktails and more food on off cocktails.
Speaker 8 (09:17):
Who drinks cocktail?
Speaker 5 (09:18):
I love a cocktail.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
You drink a cocktail here?
Speaker 9 (09:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (09:22):
Jeez mate? All right, okay, fair enough each there. I
even suggested this, and this may seem crazy, but it
got shot down. But I suggested it to my lovely partner.
I said, how about on New Years just for once?
And this sounds insane coming from me, and my twenty
year old self would just be disgusted and get in
(09:42):
a time machoone and punch me in the face for this.
But I suggested, what if we didn't go out on
New Year's Eve? And what if we hadn't early one?
And what if we got up early because we'll be
down in Topau if we got up early and we
climbed Mount Taharta.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Let's not get too carried away. It's funny. I do
actually remember there was a time when I was really
I'd put myself on.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
A very strict guy, and I didn't have any treats
or anything at Christmas, and I think I got into trouble.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
For being a bit of a joint out. Funny, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
News talks that bean.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But let's move from away from like special festive holiday treats.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
When ready to to get to pass to some more
basic staples.
Speaker 9 (10:36):
If you had to choose for the whole future, I've
just been able to eat one between tinned baked beans
or tin spaghetti, which one would you go with? Because
I'm thinking the beans are healthier, but the spaghetti's more delicious.
Would that be a common choice. I'm not saying we'd
(10:58):
live on. I'm not saying it's the food of the gods.
But if you just had to choose one, which way
would you go? The tin spaghetti or the tin baked beans?
I wonder which one you'd tire of earlier?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I think it's I mean, surely nobody's saying spaghetti, are they?
And I think I've already made my decision because I
can't remember the last time I had Tim spaghetti, and
I have Tim baked beans all the time. Sometimes I
eat them straight out of the tin.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Delicious. My mouth's watering just thinking about it, actually.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
And that's usually where I like to end the podcast,
revenously hungry with a watering mouth. I'll see if I
can go and do something about that, and I'll be
back with another week in edition of Newstalks.
Speaker 9 (11:44):
You've been on Monday, news Talk is Talking d Bean.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
For more from news Talk, said B listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said Be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk sed Be You Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glenn Hart. Today the
ongoing dramas in the wake of the murder of the
health insurance CEO in the United States. We're going to
get into some holiday eating habits. And speaking of food,
(00:44):
we've got a canned food rivalry to sort out.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I make that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Did I get a bit of sistle going around there?
Does that sound as boring as it probably is? It's
not really a promise to make promises you can't keep.
At the end of the podcast. But before any of that,
so the fairy non announcement, we've still really none the wiser.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Are we long time coming for something that wasn't really anything.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
We don't know how much it will cost yet. We
may know that around the middle of next year, and
I do understand the commercial sensitivities of that. When things
are going up for tender and the like, then of
course there are commercial sensitivities to get the right deal.
There's been assurances that it will be less than what
the original deal was going to be, and I would
absolutely imagine you could. Our quick Google shows roll on,
(01:39):
roll off fairies available for a song around the world.
But we're getting new ones and that's great, we're future proofing.
But it's really not the solution I was expecting. It's
an announcement of a plan, which is all very shades
of Labor Government's past, and just on that Labour's gone
to town. Of course, Chris Hopkins called it an announcement
(02:03):
of an announcement. The only reason that phrase exists is
because of your government, Chris, your government. That was just
we'd never heard of announcements of announcements before you came along,
so using it now is a little bit rich when
it was invented for your government. He's also astounded. I'm
(02:24):
sorry you don't get to be astounded. Not yet. The
memory of your own omni shambles which got us into
this mess is still far, far too raw.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I mean, Carrie's right, Hapkins doesn't get to have any
say about us at all, given they got us into
this mess in the first place. But I think we're
allowed to use the announcement of an announcement thing.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
No we.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
News talk zeph been.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Anyway, Let's see if Andrew Dickins is quite so forgiving
of the Coalition government and their year of inaction on
the fairies.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Herold's headline this morning is fairy plan late on key details,
no kidding like details on a boat of orphan a terminal.
Basically that's everything about about a ferry. When Nichola Willis
blew up Kiwi Rowl's plan for new fairies a year ago,
she promised a better plan. Is this a better plan?
So they're going to form a new company to buy
some fairies. No news about which fairies, which fairies, what
(03:25):
kind of ferries whatever, They're going to form a new company.
That's two seconds work. Nothing about what's happening port side.
Also an invitation to private industry to come up with
a better solution. So let's review again. No new fairies,
no new ports, no ships ordered, and seemingly no idea
that private industry already provides a service that is Bluebridge.
(03:46):
You're going to say, maybe a private person could come
up with some interest, Why don't you just close down
the ferries and give them all to Bluebridge, Because that's
what you just said Nicola was Finance Minister. Chris Hipkins said,
this was an announcement of an announcement. How rich is that.
It's exactly what we lampooned him for. But is it
an announcement of an announcement? It is rather because you
(04:08):
know they've got to still announce the ferries, the wharves
and the terminal. It was ideological. Don't you think the
government came in saw government spending and this government doesn't
make spending, so they canceled it without thinking about the
long term consequences. It was an ideological These guys are
sounding more and more like the Labor Party every day
when I talk like this. This was not based on
business practice or financial logic. It's not on brand and
(04:31):
it's harming reputationally. Think about this as a business. They
broke a contract for ships that was a good deal.
Breaking contracts not good puts flag on head. Not to
mention the break free, which some people are saying could
be as highest round of mill. Now we have basically
a company owned by the government desperately in the market,
and the providers of new boats or second hand boats
(04:52):
will go to these guys a week. Aren't they look
at their week in possession that desperate for a boat.
Let's sell them this piece of rust. The government just
needs a boat to save their face. Sellers will no
longer be sharpening their pencils. Portside costs continue to escalate.
This is a them that prides itself on business acumen
and ability emergers and acquisitions, and they've given themselves a weekend.
(05:14):
Going forward, they don't seem to know what to do,
and so they're doing nothing, and when they do do something,
they won't have a strong position.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
It's a it's a complete fungal. It really is.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
They really dropped the ball on this one. Did they
just did somebody just forget to do anything. That's what
it feels like, is that they all just forgot to
do something about it.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And then somebody said.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Oh, shure, the theories, Oh that's right.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
We're going to get onto that.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
US talk side.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I don't know that we would normally pay this much
attention to a a New York shooting, except that it's
that it was the slaying of a of a CEO
of a health insurance company carriage in the United States,
(06:11):
and so immediately, of course that divided. It was a
bit divided response It got political straightaway, didn't it. If
you're one of those people chairing on the alleged CEO
shooter in the United States, then shame on you. I
wasn't surprised to see a Pennsylvania university professor yesterday literally
dancing on TikTok celebrating the fact that the shooter went
(06:32):
to her college. What a shallow and ironically for an academic,
rather unthoughtful thing to do. It's not vigilante justice, as
some people are saying. In fact, based on the reports
of his manifesto and the alleged motive, it sounds more
like domestic terrorism. Terrorism's basically violence in the name of
a political cause or ends, in this case, allegedly a
(06:54):
hate for corporate America. Vigilante justice is taking retribution over
somebody harming you, like somebody kills your friend and you
beat that person up. Also not on but different. What's
more worrying is how many Americans, indeed people over the world,
are celebrating this. America has had two assassination attempts during
(07:15):
the last election, how many more next time.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
A poll last.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
Month found most of the people in America most Americans
oppose political violence, but Shockingly, one in five US adults
believe Americans may have to resort to violence to get
their country back on track. In the United States of
America the most advanced democracy on the face of the planet.
The difference between a place like Syria, which has been
(07:40):
on the news a lot this week, and America is
the respect for the rule of law. The callous reaction
to the CEO shooter from some shows that respect for
that rule of law is diminishing, and that is a
shameful thing.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Well, it's a natural regression, though, isn't it. I mean,
people have just become so disillusioned with it. I really
take issue with Ryan naming America as the most advanced democracy.
I think it's been particularly advanced for quite some time.
(08:13):
And yeah, if he thinks that people haven't been if
this hasn't been bubbling along beneath the service surface for
a while now, he's mister trick bear.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So yeah, I do fear that this.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Is just the first of many incidents like this, and the.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Comparing it to Syria might not be that inaccurate. All Right,
that all got a bit heavy.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Let's get into some real philosophical questions now, Like, is
it rude not to pig out at Christmas.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I'm fully on the bandwagon that it is rude that
if I turn up to the Christmas meal and they've
done all this work and there's all this beautiful food
and pastries and all this rubbish food that tastes really good,
I go to town. I think that you absolutely have to.
But it just carries on for me in the summer,
you know. Then you get into New Year and there's
more cocktails and more food on off cocktails.
Speaker 8 (09:17):
Who drinks cocktail?
Speaker 5 (09:18):
I love a cocktail.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
You drink a cocktail here?
Speaker 9 (09:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (09:22):
Jeez mate? All right, okay, fair enough each there. I
even suggested this, and this may seem crazy, but it
got shot down. But I suggested it to my lovely partner.
I said, how about on New Years just for once?
And this sounds insane coming from me, and my twenty
year old self would just be disgusted and get in
(09:42):
a time machoone and punch me in the face for this.
But I suggested, what if we didn't go out on
New Year's Eve? And what if we hadn't early one?
And what if we got up early because we'll be
down in Topau if we got up early and we
climbed Mount Taharta.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Let's not get too carried away. It's funny. I do
actually remember there was a time when I was really
I'd put myself on.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
A very strict guy, and I didn't have any treats
or anything at Christmas, and I think I got into trouble.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
For being a bit of a joint out. Funny, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
News talks that bean.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But let's move from away from like special festive holiday treats.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
When ready to to get to pass to some more
basic staples.
Speaker 9 (10:36):
If you had to choose for the whole future, I've
just been able to eat one between tinned baked beans
or tin spaghetti, which one would you go with? Because
I'm thinking the beans are healthier, but the spaghetti's more delicious.
Would that be a common choice. I'm not saying we'd
(10:58):
live on. I'm not saying it's the food of the gods.
But if you just had to choose one, which way
would you go? The tin spaghetti or the tin baked beans?
I wonder which one you'd tire of earlier?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I think it's I mean, surely nobody's saying spaghetti, are they?
And I think I've already made my decision because I
can't remember the last time I had Tim spaghetti, and
I have Tim baked beans all the time. Sometimes I
eat them straight out of the tin.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Delicious. My mouth's watering just thinking about it, actually.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
And that's usually where I like to end the podcast,
revenously hungry with a watering mouth. I'll see if I
can go and do something about that, and I'll be
back with another week in edition of Newstalks.
Speaker 9 (11:44):
You've been on Monday, news Talk is Talking d Bean.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
For more from news Talk, said B listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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