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December 18, 2024 • 15 mins

FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) Stop Telling Us What to Do/Life Could Be Worse/Man, We Love Cars/That About Wraps it Up for Shopping

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Wednesday. The New Zealand economy is
going down the Googler, but don't worry about it. Public
transport and car parking and a lot of angst about

(00:48):
just trying to go to work, and.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Also angst about shopping. It's the angstiest.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Time of the year, isn't it come to shopping? Actually,
speaking of retail and holidays for strange religious reasons, I
can't believe the Eastern Trading Bill got voted down the hell.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
So would you support Bob the idea that you have
as George suggested before, he was just floating the idea
that you just have your four weeks holiday and added
to that, we just have we are currently stat holidays,
which would make it to about six weeks legislated holidays
and people take them whenever they want. And Christmas isn't

(01:34):
any different from any other day.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
Exactly if you want to get in your car and
drive all over New your zealand go for it.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
What about Anzac Day?

Speaker 5 (01:42):
The same thing. Anzac Day is long gone and over due.
I appreciate what happened during the war, my father was
in it, but it's time to move on and get
the country back on its feet. It's on its knees
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah. But Anzac Day.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Isn't it just about how long ago it was. It's
that it could happen again at any time. And so
it's a way for us to be aware of the
terrible things that can happen in the world, and the
terrible sacrifice that had to be made for the good
of our nation and the good of a lot of
other nations, and that the idea that that couldn't happen again,

(02:22):
we can just forget about the idea of war. I
couldn't agree with you on that one.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Bob.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Well, I'm not trying to say forget about war. I'm
maybe one years old a few of them and the
people that have been involved in them. But to keep
on dragging out the agony Anzac Day. You can't do this,
Christmas Day, you can't do that Easter Day. The politicians
had got far far too much control over the way

(02:48):
we live our life each Bob.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I'm with Bob all the way. You know, jee to.
If you want.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
To give us the power, you want to take the
day off on Anzac Day, good on you. If you
want to pretend that Jesus was born on the twenty
fifth of December, which didn't even exist back then, Oh
for your life, give.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Us the choice.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Though news talk Z been now so yeah, And we've
had a sort of a week of various different economic signals, measurements, reports, forecasts,
most of them pretty grim.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
How does John McDonald see them?

Speaker 6 (03:40):
And don't get me started on the creative accounting we
saw yesterday, which Treasury was against the government doing in
the first place, and which some economists, some economists think
is a justifiable, justifiable thing to do. No, this has
taken a sec out of the picture. So the numbers
look better sooner. But even though it kind of makes
sense to the experts, even they think it's been on

(04:00):
the cheeky side. And I'm not going to get bold
down in numbers, but I can't resist pointing out that
part of the problem is the government's revenue from tax
being down over four years. It's going to earn thirteen
billion dollars less and the cost of this year's income
tax changes is going to be fourteen point five billion
over five years, just saying but the tax cuts horse,

(04:24):
that's bolted and there's no going back from there. The
other reason too, for the tax take being down is
that businesses aren't earning so much, which of course means
they're paying less tax too, and that's going to be
a key thing for the government. And Nikola will have
said so this morning with Heather. It needs to do
what it can to stimulate economic growth, and it will

(04:44):
say that's what things like the fast tracking legislation will
do all of that stuff. But it can't fix things
with legislation alone. The government needs to keep investing. It
needs suspend to accumulate, which is why it would be
a terrible mistake for it to go all knee jerk
on it and start cutting, cutting, cutting harder, harder, harder.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
But what do you think.

Speaker 6 (05:10):
Are you happy with Nichola willis as steady as she
goes approach. You're happy for the government to stick with
the current plan, or do you think we need something
like Ruth Richardson's Mother of All budgets to really shake
things up.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
If we had another Mother of all budgets? How does
that work, because you can't have two mothers of all budgets?
Does that then relegate the previous mother of all budgets
to just being a sort of an auntie of budgits or.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Don't know you talk?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
So yeah, John abit flummoxed by the state of our economy.
Ryan's actually been complaining about it quite a bit this week,
but maybe he's had.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
A bit of a another think about it.

Speaker 7 (05:52):
Boom, no growth. In fact, we're going to go backwards
per person. It's disappointing, but it's also not the end
of the world. And that's my message this afternoon. When
you look at the rest of the world, we have
plenty to be grateful for. At least we're not France.
Their debts so bad they can't even pass a budget
without collapsing their entire government. They are literally back to

(06:14):
political square one, the same place they were when we
watched the Olympians get Giardia in the Sine during the
Olympics in July. No government, no prime minister, and no budget.
So there we go. Number one, We're not France. We're
doing well. Number two We're not Germany. They also can't
sort a budget without collapsing a three way coalition. They're

(06:35):
back to the polls in January. Number three, see what
are you feeling better?

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Already?

Speaker 7 (06:40):
Number three Britain has care Starmer. We're not them, Australia
has Albanezi. We're not them. And four Yes, technically negative
real growth makes us losers, but at least we're not
losers like the Democrats and Kamala Harris. You see, most
of us saw our misfortunes coming. Those guys spent an

(07:00):
entire one hundred day campaign living in deluded La la land,
thinking that they would beat the Don on their economy.
Didn't happen. So today it's not a great day, it's
not an awful day. And tomorrow, well tomorrow's neither great
nor awful either. But it could always be worse, couldn't it,
And for that we should always be grateful.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
I often think that to myself. You know, I'm having
a bit of a rough time. Al was saying. I say, oh,
at least I'm not in France right now, an't you?

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Seventy right, We've got a sort of a public transports
slash parking situation slash private vehicles. This is the wrong
kind of PPP, A different kind of PPP public transport,

(07:55):
parking private vehicles.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Does Edrew Dickers have any solution?

Speaker 8 (08:00):
Average wage and all than seventy two thousand a year
after tax. That's nine hundred dollars a week. The medium
rent is seven hundred dollars a week. You need one
hundred dollars a week for power, phone, internet and gas
and oh, by the way, you need to eat. So
where's a spare money for that park? At seventy four
dollars for a day, the only people paying that are
paid way more than seventy two grand on having no alternatives, well,

(08:22):
we don't have any. Fifty percent of the workers in
Auckland CBD take public transport into work. That's because they
don't get a park from their employer, and they don't
earn enough to face the parking charges. After all, seventy
four dollars a day twenty two bucks an hour. It's
not their choice to take the public transport. It's an
economic necessity. That's why public transport is critical to our productivity.

(08:43):
Fifty percent of the workers in the CBD need it.
Remember that the next time you can plan about a
bus lane. And finally, we love our cars because actually
there are plenty of cars. Sorry, there are plenty of
parks that don't cost seventy four bucks an hour in
the CBD, like the city owned Downtown car Park, a
car park which on most days is half empty, which

(09:05):
is why the council has now sold the car park
to developers to become a skyscraper because it's half empty.
Part there you may have to walk, so many don't
and so they go and pay a fortune on waste
of productivity. Yeah there, here's here's the thing. The fact
that so many Orchanders are prepared to pay so much

(09:25):
to park a car and the CBD makes me believe
that the idea of congestion charges reducing traffic will fail
because we're prepared to pay this rubbish. We're just going
to pay to stay stuck in the same traffic queues.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah. I quite like the way Andrews did there.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
I mean, too many effects and figures. My head starts
spinning around around.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
And I've ever been exactly clear on where Andrew stands.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
I think he drives an electric vehicle, but I think
he's also but yeah, he still drives a vehicle.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
But yeah, I think with the philosophic please, I mean,
there must come a point where they make it.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Too expensive food drive. That part of that equation has
got to make the public transport cheaper and less expensive.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
News talk ze been.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
I mean, if you just you know, I want to
go into town for a bit of Christmas shopping.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
It's but hard to.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Do it on a bus or a train, isn't it,
Because she's you end up with a few bags.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
I've been in the Big Smoke for a couple of days.

Speaker 9 (10:42):
But it does seem to me that I don't know
if you agree with this, but what I suspect is
that I don't know how to say this without freaking
people out too much. It feels to me that the

(11:04):
pendulum has swung and but physically shopping for presents for
Christmas is now no longer worth doing. Most things you
want to buy you can't buy because they're only available online.
It's happened very quickly, and I certainly sense that that, Yeah,

(11:28):
you go and try and find things, they're just not there.
Because retail suddenly seems to have it's not performing like
it used to perform. There's not the range. There's not
the stock. The shops have closed down. It's all got online.
Are people experiencing that? I think that's a fair summation.

(11:50):
That's certainly the impression I got today.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, I think the majority of the Christmas shopping in
my house. I mean, I don't notice for a fact
that I have seen a lot of packages arriving on
the doorsteads.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Seems to be done on the line. I know, one
man from member of my family. Every single thing means
before online.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
I bought some stuff online yesterday. Do you think I'm
going to get it like yesterday Wednesday? So we've got
in terms of actual what do they call them business days?

Speaker 3 (12:25):
So that's going to change as well, their old business days.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
So I've got today, Friday, Monday, Tuesday, and it said
usually delivers in one to two business days.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Say you said, so I'm going to get here in
front of it.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
So then do I wrap up an iou? And then
you know, is it going to come between Christmas and
New Year's Probably not. It could be February by the
time you see those prisons.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Anyway, it could be with the way I don't know
that I would have found that. I think it's as
the Marcus just sit in in an actual shop.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Hey, can I just quickly tell you about a sort
of a combination of the two experiences.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I was tasked to create a Christmas cab.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
From our family with a picture of our dogs sitting
on Sander's knee.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Great picture.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Designed the Christmas card Harvey Norman. They've got a photo service.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
They seem to be doing the best deal on Christmas.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Surprising expensive to do this or we should just tried
to do it own myself. Anyway, they were advertising photos
really printed the same day, next day, day after the
next day.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Whatever. Yeah, this is the end of last week. I
was making all this happen. Popped into Harvey Norman to pick.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Up my Christmas cards yesterday and was told, oh, no, no,
they come from Australia. They sent them, but they probably
ran awry for another ten days or so. So yeah,
at that point, they're not Christos cards anymore either, do
it no matter what's on the front of them, and
so the and I said, well that's ridiculous, I want

(14:01):
my money back, and the person literally opened up the
website and showed me the link to click on the
contact the people who were sending the photos and I said,
this is just terrible service, and she didn't care. So yeah,
that was a case of both the online and the
bricks and mortar not really cutting it. Bad bad show,

(14:27):
Harvey Norman. Sorry, but yeah, I will not be using
that serance again. I'm not I'm not even sure I
used it this time again.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah. Eventually I complained enough and threatened to talk the
managers enough that I don't got my money back. Still
I need that stress at this time of year. They
was that a very I said it was gonna be
a quick story. It wasn't a very quick story. I
hope it was interesting though.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I found it interesting, interesting, world interesting yet quotes. I'll
be back here with one last collection of interesting stories
of our I hope they are us.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
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