December 19, 2024 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk SEDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Used Talk sed B.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
You Talk said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to
the Bean for Friday, for the last time for twenty
twenty four. I'm Glen Hart, and today we're going to
have some nice christmasy cat control, Why buses crash? And
(00:45):
is it all right just to pop in?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Is that still a thing?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And yeah, relating to that, perhaps the best piece of
advice I've heard all year. What a great way to
end the podcast. But I'm not going to give too
much away. You have to listen to the whole thing.
There's definitely no way you can just fast forward to that.
Absolutely not, especially when we're going to start talking about
the fact that we're back in recession or were it
(01:10):
still in recession?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Or what's the story? Who's to blame? Oh, that's right.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
The spendings free that the last lot went on, aided
and abtted by the Reserve Bank led to the drastic
over correction by the very same bank, robbing us blind
with some of the world's highest and most prolonged mortgage
interestrates to try and undo the mess that they made
in the first place. These numbers also tell us I
think that Nikola Willis is probably on about the right path.
(01:36):
Many were asking after the Hayfu results on Tuesday, myself
included whether the state of the state's books and the
debt warranted harsher cuts to the public service. But today
we have seen an ugly truth, and cutting further into
spending with numbers like these, you risk a spiral equally
(01:57):
to those wanting gold plated hospitals and Ferrari fairies. How
much more evidence do you need between Tuesday and today
that now ain't the right time. There's champagne dreams on
a beer budget. The upside to all of this, don't worry.
There is one is that this is backwards looking. Data
rates are coming down and this should be the trough
(02:20):
of the cycle. But let's make sure of that, can
we before we get all peggy with our government spending again.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Oh, if you're a regular listener, you know, mabe. If
you don't know that it's happening, it's not necessarily happening
to you. It's a Schrodinger's show Dinger anyway, the guy
who put the cat in the box with burg I
don't know why I had to be radio as.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
A radioactive that what's boising the cat? Anyway, the two
things exist before you open the box. Either the cat's
alive or the cat's dead.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
You don't know until you open the box. And I
feel that way with the processions, like before the announcement
came out, we may maybe we were, maybe we weren't,
and I chose to believe that we were, and now
I know that we are still be to be honest, now,
can I know where I was going with this whole line.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Of lod too news talk?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Has it been anyway? Let's keep the Christmas cheer going, and.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Hey, we're talking about the payout for people who were
tortured at Lake Alice.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Most of the Lake Alice victims or survivors have received
some form of compensation already, but this is a new
offer because the state has acknowledged that they were tortured. Nevertheless,
I still think the government's jumping the gun making this
offer to Lake Alice victims before it's said anything about
compensation or or redress for abuse and care victims. Because
(03:56):
while Robin Dandy, who I mentioned earlier, while shem, I
think that one hundred and fifty k is perfectly fine. Now,
what if the abuse and care survivors are offered more
of the guy the likes of the guy who thinks
one hundred and fifty k is pitiful? What if he
manages to eventually get himself a better deal from the government.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
You se what I mean?
Speaker 6 (04:19):
The one hundred and fifty thousand dollars It might sound
good now that Robin Dandy might feel very differently down
the track when she sees other people getting more, Which
is why I think the government's making a big mistake
doing what it's doing right now.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, I certainly confused about this. I thought it was
all the same thing that these people in care who
were abused, and it's all under the Apparently it's.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Sticky old business, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And also in both cases, how do you decide how
much money you give people to make up for their
entire lives being screw that?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
You know?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Like I say, Mary, Christmas talk SI right, I think
it's time to.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Get into the really big story of the year.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Going cats, Cat mothers, the really really really really really
love cats. And when you start talking about killing moggies
or microchipping moggies, and people get a bit upset. I
remember one debate when we heard of a kindly lady
who would feed hundreds of feral cats living in a
park and parnell she loved the moggies, but the moggie
is still like to hunt, and no matter how much
he fed them. When confronted with the damage she was doing,
(05:29):
she had many others were outraged at the accusation. You
can't let these poor cats die. But the proof of
the problem putting is at that figure of two million
feral cats. It's a small army, and it exists because
of the irresponsibility of owners, and not just one or
two owners, hundreds of thousands of owners. So many New
Zealanders fail to grasp the responsibility of pet ownership. And
(05:52):
I never understood the complaints when you're told there are
more stringent rules over the ownership of cats. These are
living beings. It's a big deal. We know that for kids,
we know that for dogs, we know that for guns.
So I see no problem with microshipping your cat. I
did that seventeen years ago with my dog Dook called Saffie.
God Rest her song. Cats, dogs and guns are not
(06:12):
a right. They are a privilege.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Oh right, So we're not killing the cats. We're just
market to bring the cats.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
My cats.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
We don't have any cats currently, we've had something We've
had had a few.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Over the years. Always get the microship, I mean, apart
from anything else.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So they wander off. It's nice if somebody takes them
to somewhere where they can read the microship and then
we can. And also we had a cat door that
would only open and close two specific cats in your head.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
To have a chip for that to work as well,
and then we stopped using it because it made a
clicking sound. They clicked and that annoyed some people in
the house.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
So that was kind of now that I think about,
that was a massive waste of time, especially.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Given now that we've taken that out and put a
dog door and giving a tremendous amount of trouble. I'm
staying on top of this podcast today. Is it just
because I'm you know, it's four forty.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Five am as I recalled this, and.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Four hours and fifteen minutes on basically from holiday.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
It's not that I'm gunning down or anything, as you
might like to know that. Hey, it's very bad time
of year to be having a bus crash and.
Speaker 8 (07:27):
Just I'm saying that we have no idea what's caused
as extent, but as an accident in an area whereas
as dB sit one hundred buses twice a day down
a really winding it's a good road, but it's a
oh she's a convent. I mean they've got the Devil's
staircase for a reason. And then you get someone over
to and you also get a lot of people hiring
(07:47):
vans and cars and stuff, you know, who might who
might be tired, who might be party type people on there,
you know, camper Vent holiday. You see some pretty bad driving.
I've never seen bad driving. I've done that road a lot.
I've never seen bad driving from the buses, never, But
I've seen a lot of bad overtaking on that road.
(08:10):
And there you go, I might becoming one of those
traffic balls that goes on about how bad drivers are,
but on that road sometimes it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You ever been on the bus at the remarkables that's
the herasing experience.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
It's like I'm an amusement park ride.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
There's something about being high up in a bus and
then looking down for one less drop. I feel like
you're really it's it's exciting.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Stuff news talk. Has it been right?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I've saved the best for lasts. I think here.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I think this caller into Matt and Tyler yesterday afternoon
is probably my caller of the year, just because his
advice is so extraordinarily good.
Speaker 9 (09:00):
Are you still into the old pop in, particularly if
you live rually, if you're in the country, Is that
still a thing? Neville get a ye.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Hi, guys, Yeah, it can be a real nuisance, especially
if you've just been to the toilet or so. My
system is simple, always answered the door with a jacket on.
And if you don't want them to come and say
you're just going out, or if you want them to
come and say you've just got home easy.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
That is, that is brilliant.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
So you.
Speaker 10 (09:32):
So you've just you've just grabbed the jacket, you open
the door, and you're surprised I was just going out.
That that's actually, that's actually quite brilliant. I feel like
my downstairs bathroom excites career drivers to arrive as soon
as if I'm at home alone, I visit the bathroom
and I've got to spend a bit of time in there.
That's immediately when a courier.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Arrives so exactly, or your next or neighbor want to
row a cup of sugar or something. Anyway, that's that's
my fathen sworst guys have fun Neville.
Speaker 10 (10:01):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
See is there something wrong in the world where I've
never had a neighbor that's asked me to borrow a
cup of sugar? In fact, I've never in my life
had a neighbor that's ever asked me to borrow anything.
But that's one of the big cliches of life.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Does that still happen?
Speaker 9 (10:16):
It's a bit sad, isn't it. And we know our
front neighbors alertle Bit because it's a little bit more
closer up here in Auckland than it was in christ
juch We didn't really know our neighbors down in christ Juche.
But even I talked about my line Triumer and I
love my line Trommer, but we share the kind of
part of the fence where the weeds was popping up,
and for some part of me, I just thought, do
(10:36):
I just lined from this for the neighbors? And I didn't,
and I felt real bad about that. But there is
that lack of loving your neighbor in today's eight.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
So yeah, I like to cover off there.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Firstly, as I say, the advice of having the jacket,
maybe have your car keys in your hand as well.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I never thought of that. Ah, I was just going
out brilliant, so good.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And then the borrowing things off your neighbors.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I mean it's good. It is good to make an effort.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
We've always when we've moved into the house that have
gone around and met the neighbor knocked on the door.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
So we've done the popping because you know, I don't
think of it. They've banced the door with the jacket
on how many cakes?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
And for a lot of the times the weird wodsiness,
isn't it? But and sometimes it's worked out well. We
had some neighbors at our last place that used to
bring over fresh maid dumplings Chinese dumplings on Christmas Day.
But that's the kind of proplem that you certainly don't
(11:45):
mind that they were great. The current neighbors, they are loud,
welcomers and fearwellers, you know what I mean, people who
will stand in the driveway.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
So not actually in the entrance way of the house,
but go right out to the where the people are.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Getting in or out of the car and have a
low loud conversations with those people before they leave for
as they arrive. And that's I guess that's nice for them.
But when I've got an alarm that's going off at
ten to three in the morning, I start to feel
(12:27):
a little bit resimful. So I wouldn't I don't know
if i'd be so inclined to let them borrow my
line trimmer didn't finish up feeling as Christmas as I'd
hoped that these of this podcast, But it is Christmas.
That's the year, the year of newsbooks has been.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I'm off on quite a long break.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
But it's because of the I think with that team
to three alarm. Not that I bring that up off them,
do I the team to three alarm? But I mentioned
the team of three alarms.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I a lot to ear.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Anyway, that's off. Now this was the last day for
quite some time. I see you in the new year.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I think it's like the twentieth of January something like that.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You see the news Talk is talking zid bean
Speaker 1 (13:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Used Talk sed B.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
You Talk said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to
the Bean for Friday, for the last time for twenty
twenty four. I'm Glen Hart, and today we're going to
have some nice christmasy cat control, Why buses crash? And
(00:45):
is it all right just to pop in?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Is that still a thing?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And yeah, relating to that, perhaps the best piece of
advice I've heard all year. What a great way to
end the podcast. But I'm not going to give too
much away. You have to listen to the whole thing.
There's definitely no way you can just fast forward to that.
Absolutely not, especially when we're going to start talking about
the fact that we're back in recession or were it
(01:10):
still in recession?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Or what's the story? Who's to blame? Oh, that's right.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
The spendings free that the last lot went on, aided
and abtted by the Reserve Bank led to the drastic
over correction by the very same bank, robbing us blind
with some of the world's highest and most prolonged mortgage
interestrates to try and undo the mess that they made
in the first place. These numbers also tell us I
think that Nikola Willis is probably on about the right path.
(01:36):
Many were asking after the Hayfu results on Tuesday, myself
included whether the state of the state's books and the
debt warranted harsher cuts to the public service. But today
we have seen an ugly truth, and cutting further into
spending with numbers like these, you risk a spiral equally
(01:57):
to those wanting gold plated hospitals and Ferrari fairies. How
much more evidence do you need between Tuesday and today
that now ain't the right time. There's champagne dreams on
a beer budget. The upside to all of this, don't worry.
There is one is that this is backwards looking. Data
rates are coming down and this should be the trough
(02:20):
of the cycle. But let's make sure of that, can
we before we get all peggy with our government spending again.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Oh, if you're a regular listener, you know, mabe. If
you don't know that it's happening, it's not necessarily happening
to you. It's a Schrodinger's show Dinger anyway, the guy
who put the cat in the box with burg I
don't know why I had to be radio as.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
A radioactive that what's boising the cat? Anyway, the two
things exist before you open the box. Either the cat's
alive or the cat's dead.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
You don't know until you open the box. And I
feel that way with the processions, like before the announcement
came out, we may maybe we were, maybe we weren't,
and I chose to believe that we were, and now
I know that we are still be to be honest, now,
can I know where I was going with this whole line.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Of lod too news talk?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Has it been anyway? Let's keep the Christmas cheer going, and.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Hey, we're talking about the payout for people who were
tortured at Lake Alice.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Most of the Lake Alice victims or survivors have received
some form of compensation already, but this is a new
offer because the state has acknowledged that they were tortured. Nevertheless,
I still think the government's jumping the gun making this
offer to Lake Alice victims before it's said anything about
compensation or or redress for abuse and care victims. Because
(03:56):
while Robin Dandy, who I mentioned earlier, while shem, I
think that one hundred and fifty k is perfectly fine. Now,
what if the abuse and care survivors are offered more
of the guy the likes of the guy who thinks
one hundred and fifty k is pitiful? What if he
manages to eventually get himself a better deal from the government.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
You se what I mean?
Speaker 6 (04:19):
The one hundred and fifty thousand dollars It might sound
good now that Robin Dandy might feel very differently down
the track when she sees other people getting more, Which
is why I think the government's making a big mistake
doing what it's doing right now.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, I certainly confused about this. I thought it was
all the same thing that these people in care who
were abused, and it's all under the Apparently it's.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Sticky old business, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And also in both cases, how do you decide how
much money you give people to make up for their
entire lives being screw that?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
You know?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Like I say, Mary, Christmas talk SI right, I think
it's time to.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Get into the really big story of the year.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Going cats, Cat mothers, the really really really really really
love cats. And when you start talking about killing moggies
or microchipping moggies, and people get a bit upset. I
remember one debate when we heard of a kindly lady
who would feed hundreds of feral cats living in a
park and parnell she loved the moggies, but the moggie
is still like to hunt, and no matter how much
he fed them. When confronted with the damage she was doing,
(05:29):
she had many others were outraged at the accusation. You
can't let these poor cats die. But the proof of
the problem putting is at that figure of two million
feral cats. It's a small army, and it exists because
of the irresponsibility of owners, and not just one or
two owners, hundreds of thousands of owners. So many New
Zealanders fail to grasp the responsibility of pet ownership. And
(05:52):
I never understood the complaints when you're told there are
more stringent rules over the ownership of cats. These are
living beings. It's a big deal. We know that for kids,
we know that for dogs, we know that for guns.
So I see no problem with microshipping your cat. I
did that seventeen years ago with my dog Dook called Saffie.
God Rest her song. Cats, dogs and guns are not
(06:12):
a right. They are a privilege.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Oh right, So we're not killing the cats. We're just
market to bring the cats.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
My cats.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
We don't have any cats currently, we've had something We've
had had a few.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Over the years. Always get the microship, I mean, apart
from anything else.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So they wander off. It's nice if somebody takes them
to somewhere where they can read the microship and then
we can. And also we had a cat door that
would only open and close two specific cats in your head.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
To have a chip for that to work as well,
and then we stopped using it because it made a
clicking sound. They clicked and that annoyed some people in
the house.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
So that was kind of now that I think about,
that was a massive waste of time, especially.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Given now that we've taken that out and put a
dog door and giving a tremendous amount of trouble. I'm
staying on top of this podcast today. Is it just
because I'm you know, it's four forty.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Five am as I recalled this, and.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Four hours and fifteen minutes on basically from holiday.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
It's not that I'm gunning down or anything, as you
might like to know that. Hey, it's very bad time
of year to be having a bus crash and.
Speaker 8 (07:27):
Just I'm saying that we have no idea what's caused
as extent, but as an accident in an area whereas
as dB sit one hundred buses twice a day down
a really winding it's a good road, but it's a
oh she's a convent. I mean they've got the Devil's
staircase for a reason. And then you get someone over
to and you also get a lot of people hiring
(07:47):
vans and cars and stuff, you know, who might who
might be tired, who might be party type people on there,
you know, camper Vent holiday. You see some pretty bad driving.
I've never seen bad driving. I've done that road a lot.
I've never seen bad driving from the buses, never, But
I've seen a lot of bad overtaking on that road.
(08:10):
And there you go, I might becoming one of those
traffic balls that goes on about how bad drivers are,
but on that road sometimes it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You ever been on the bus at the remarkables that's
the herasing experience.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
It's like I'm an amusement park ride.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
There's something about being high up in a bus and
then looking down for one less drop. I feel like
you're really it's it's exciting.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Stuff news talk. Has it been right?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I've saved the best for lasts. I think here.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I think this caller into Matt and Tyler yesterday afternoon
is probably my caller of the year, just because his
advice is so extraordinarily good.
Speaker 9 (09:00):
Are you still into the old pop in, particularly if
you live rually, if you're in the country, Is that
still a thing? Neville get a ye.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Hi, guys, Yeah, it can be a real nuisance, especially
if you've just been to the toilet or so. My
system is simple, always answered the door with a jacket on.
And if you don't want them to come and say
you're just going out, or if you want them to
come and say you've just got home easy.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
That is, that is brilliant.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
So you.
Speaker 10 (09:32):
So you've just you've just grabbed the jacket, you open
the door, and you're surprised I was just going out.
That that's actually, that's actually quite brilliant. I feel like
my downstairs bathroom excites career drivers to arrive as soon
as if I'm at home alone, I visit the bathroom
and I've got to spend a bit of time in there.
That's immediately when a courier.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Arrives so exactly, or your next or neighbor want to
row a cup of sugar or something. Anyway, that's that's
my fathen sworst guys have fun Neville.
Speaker 10 (10:01):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
See is there something wrong in the world where I've
never had a neighbor that's asked me to borrow a
cup of sugar? In fact, I've never in my life
had a neighbor that's ever asked me to borrow anything.
But that's one of the big cliches of life.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Does that still happen?
Speaker 9 (10:16):
It's a bit sad, isn't it. And we know our
front neighbors alertle Bit because it's a little bit more
closer up here in Auckland than it was in christ
juch We didn't really know our neighbors down in christ Juche.
But even I talked about my line Triumer and I
love my line Trommer, but we share the kind of
part of the fence where the weeds was popping up,
and for some part of me, I just thought, do
(10:36):
I just lined from this for the neighbors? And I didn't,
and I felt real bad about that. But there is
that lack of loving your neighbor in today's eight.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
So yeah, I like to cover off there.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Firstly, as I say, the advice of having the jacket,
maybe have your car keys in your hand as well.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I never thought of that. Ah, I was just going
out brilliant, so good.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And then the borrowing things off your neighbors.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I mean it's good. It is good to make an effort.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
We've always when we've moved into the house that have
gone around and met the neighbor knocked on the door.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
So we've done the popping because you know, I don't
think of it. They've banced the door with the jacket
on how many cakes?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
And for a lot of the times the weird wodsiness,
isn't it? But and sometimes it's worked out well. We
had some neighbors at our last place that used to
bring over fresh maid dumplings Chinese dumplings on Christmas Day.
But that's the kind of proplem that you certainly don't
(11:45):
mind that they were great. The current neighbors, they are loud,
welcomers and fearwellers, you know what I mean, people who
will stand in the driveway.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
So not actually in the entrance way of the house,
but go right out to the where the people are.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Getting in or out of the car and have a
low loud conversations with those people before they leave for
as they arrive. And that's I guess that's nice for them.
But when I've got an alarm that's going off at
ten to three in the morning, I start to feel
(12:27):
a little bit resimful. So I wouldn't I don't know
if i'd be so inclined to let them borrow my
line trimmer didn't finish up feeling as Christmas as I'd
hoped that these of this podcast, But it is Christmas.
That's the year, the year of newsbooks has been.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I'm off on quite a long break.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
But it's because of the I think with that team
to three alarm. Not that I bring that up off them,
do I the team to three alarm? But I mentioned
the team of three alarms.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I a lot to ear.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Anyway, that's off. Now this was the last day for
quite some time. I see you in the new year.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
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