January 22, 2025 • 12 mins
IRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) What Is the Reserve Bank Doing All This Time?/Teaching Sounds Horrific/Have Your Holiday Whenever/AI Oscars/Comet Skepticism
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday. We're going to teach a
shortage again. We'll still or we always will. I don't know.
Summer holidays are they in the wrong place although we're
happening in summer, but maybe somebody wants them somewhere else.
(00:45):
Should we give out oscars for AI performances? And Marcus
stops caring about comments? Welcome to the club, Marcus, before
any of that inflation, Where are we at?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
The US books are a nightmare. Their debt to GDP
levels exceed one hundred percent of GDP. I think it's
one hundred and ten percent. Japan's is at two hundred
and sixty three percent. Makes us look good. Putin will
feel that Russia's getting stronger in its war with Ukraine
because of this week's development. It feels picked on by
the West. That's a threat, and she controls a lot
(01:19):
of the world's energy. And we've got extreme weather events
and natural disasters which are stressing the world's insurance markets.
That la fires are going to affect everyone. I know
that's a negative list, and I don't like being negative
because New Zealand is putting its house in order, even
though there's many saying that we've done it far too ruthlessly.
But look at it. Our dollar is weak, our petrol
(01:41):
prices are starting to rise, imports are on the way
up in price, and inflation is picked to rise again
later this year because of that alone. So we are
sitting here in a weekened state after the last six years,
and you know that. Look at your company's accounts, look
at my company's accounts, look at the warehouse, look at
the body shop. The risk of another big global shock
(02:03):
is pretty high and it's all potentially bad. So as
the year progress, is this just hope calm heads prevail,
particularly the shorter and medium term. But the deeper question
is will this affect our interest rates when the Reserve
Bank meets in February.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I think it already has, isn't it. The Bank's just
gone on. We don't really care what the Reserve Bank's
up to because they're not doing anything. We're lowering our
aids anyway, isn't there what's happening? I miss something, I've
probably missed something. I often miss something.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
News talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Now? We've got I can't get to the bront of us.
We've got teachers. But once again, it's one of these
problems where we've got too many overseas ones and not enough.
It's like nurses all over again, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
We have quietly sat by and allowed to happen what
I think is the most damaging thing that's ever been
done to our education system. The most damaging thing.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Now what that is?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
The modern learning environment? The modern learning environment, in my
opinion anyway, has been an absolute disaster. And you and
I we have allowed that to happen. I know it
gets moaned about, but no one ever takes at next level,
do they. The fact that teachers have been forced to
(03:14):
teach kids in these barn like settings with tents and
bean bags and cheap is all the noise. Again, who
would want to be a teacher and that kind of setup?
I wouldn't, But you and I we have allowed the
Ministry of Education to force these monstrosities on schools. Sure
we might have had a rant about it to our mates.
But that's all we've done. Might have rung up talk
(03:36):
back about it, that's all we've done. And by stopping there,
we have let teachers down big time, all of us
I have. And by letting teachers down big time by
not advocating for them as much as we should, and
by placing such unrealistic expectations on them, by doing too
(03:57):
much of some stuff and not enough of other stuff,
we have done our first class job of telling people
you should forget about being a teacher. And that's why
we have a shortage. Am I on the money or not?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I do wonder if we should stop telling people how
terrible the education system is, because that doesn't make people
want to be a teacher, does it?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
So?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
You know, even if it isn't very good, if we
just pretended that it was, would more people do it
and then it would slowly get better because you have
better people in there. Stupid ideas, because just stop having ideas,
Ben you talk speaking of stupid ideas. Should we move
the holidays? Seems like every holidays somebody seduced that we
(04:47):
should move the holidays.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
This is a really good idea, and I tell you
it would only take it a decent marketing campaign and
both Australia and New Zealand and we'd be away. Like,
I honestly don't think it's that hard. Like you know, businesses,
we can change when we shut down, if we shut down,
or what if we do over that period. Some of
us stay open right throughout the period because that's the
way we do as this is not hard.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
I just wondered what would the advantage to Australia be
because they have very different weather from us.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Well, they already have. I think some of the school
holidays are a week out of things. So if you
go to the South Island skiing when those of us
take holidays of days outside. So I mean even if
you just made it one week apart or however you
did it, But I remember, teachers aren't going to lose
out here. They're going to get the same amount of
holidays because that's their contracts. So yeah, I'm all for it.
(05:36):
I just think, hey, it makes sense. I like nice
weather when I go aun holiday. It kind of makes
it go better.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
I guess the thing we need if we wanted to
make this happen, and look there's some complications, but you
need a slogan. That was Peter Dunn's problem. He didn't
have a slogan. You know, you know I've never listened
in my life because I've brought up with bear tidy KEI.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Keep New Zealand beautiful.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Yeah, you need a slogan. I'm struggling.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Holiday in the sun, Yeah yeah, Holiday in the sun. Yeah,
the kind of works. I think we can work on
that nine two.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
If you've got a great yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Then well then we'll hit the street with some placards
and yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
I mean you know, we're into protesting, get.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Out there for a good court exactly, love it, positive protests.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
What we do would go to protest holiday parks.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Up, get some billboards going on the march towards Parliament
to shift.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
The protests schools, you know, put a picket line on
schools to stop kids going out.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Can we sort out my idea first, it's not just
my idea, but of not having any public holidays anymore
and just adding those on too everybody's leave allowance so
they can have holidays whenever we want, and then you
won't have any controversy about White Tangy Day or Anzac
Day or anything like that. If you want to celebrate
those days, Christmas, Easter, even celebrate take the day off
(07:01):
if you want. But maybe everybody wants to just have
U summer holiday set. All right. So it's been a
podcast of innovative, controversial, perhaps thinking hanging outside the box today.
And now they're going to give oscars to artificial intelligence?
(07:25):
Is that what's happening?
Speaker 7 (07:26):
In The Brutalist, Adrian Brody and Felicity Jones play Jewish
Hungarians who survived the Nazi camps and escaped to the US.
The actors spent two months working with a dialect coach
to perfect their accents, but the filmmakers wanted their Hungarian
to sound perfect, so added individual sounds and letters to
both Brody and Jones's Hungarian language dialogue to perfect it.
(07:49):
This has caused quite an uproar, and The Brutalist director
Brady Corbett was forced to issue a statement to Hollywood
Trade Publication saying Adrian and Felicity's performance is completely their own,
who went on to say the aim was to preserve
the authenticity of Adrian and Felicity's performance in another language,
not to replace altered them, and done with the utmost
(08:10):
respect for the craft Their performances in this film which
I have seen, are extraordinary. The film is stunning, ambitious, audacious,
and if a tool was used to tweak their Hungarian
along the way, well, Hungarians are probably grateful with Amelia
Peeras it has emerged, AI cloning was used to enhance
the singing voice of Amelia Peire's as Carlo Sophia Garson
(08:32):
to increase the range of Garson's vocal register. Their singing
was then blended with that of Camille, the French pop
star who co wrote the film's score. People are upset
really in the film Elvis Austin Butler's voices mixed with Elds's.
Marilyn Monroe did not hit her own high notes. Zac
Efron has a ghost singer in high school musical films
(08:54):
have been tricking us for years, but suddenly, because it's AI,
everyone is up in arms about it. And it's not
just correcting accents and singing voices where AI is used.
It's already embedded in everything from production to writing to
visual effects. Just don't expect anyone to shout it from
the rooftops. Some say it's more of a pr problem
than a tech problem, and that it's just another tool
(09:14):
like CGI to be used to make better films. Obviously,
there are concerns about the prolific use of AI. No
one wants to see whole sectors of the industry replaced,
such as writers or graphic artists or background actors. It's
often the lowest paid on the call sheet who suffer.
So it is up to the industry to draw the
(09:35):
line and work towards safeguards and regulation so the industry
can find a way to use AI for good and
love or hate it. AI is going to be part
of our lives in ways we can already see, in
ways we can't imagine. Just don't let the controversy ruin
a good film for you.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, it is kind of weird, isn't it. I thought
that's what we wanted movies to do, is to because otherwise,
like star Wars, wouldn't be very interesting things if they
just did stuff that can only happen in real life
the movies. Isn't it? The outset about things these days?
(10:19):
Aren't the.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
News talk? Has it been?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Now? It only happens once iver one hundred and seventy
thousand years or something? What oh? Things are happen every week?
Speaker 8 (10:33):
By the way, too, there is the last chance to
see this atless comet up over comets until a comet
actually lights up the sky. I can't be bothered because
the last couple of being duds. Mind, if anyone has
seen it, it looks extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Do let us know?
Speaker 8 (10:55):
I guess I'm a comets comet septic skiptic. Anyway, the
ickon p Harrold Bethel's is good for this. One of
the next few nights you look at Venux, look at Venus,
and go to the left one and a half. Why
don't I have handspans? I guess it depends how long
your arm is, me saying I'm not interested in comment to.
The more I get down the story, the more fast
(11:16):
that I am.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I don't think arm length effects handspan with does it?
More of the habit your hands are situation there, which
is why it's an interesting way to measure how poor
horses are. But no, stay strong, Marcus be against telling
people to look in the night sky for things that
(11:37):
will always seemed to be up there every night. I mean, yeah, okay,
this particular comet, it's the only time year are going
to see it unless you live for another one hundred
and seventy thousand years or whatever it is. But it
could be another one next week, or a super moon
or a blood moon or I mean, I'm into space.
(11:59):
I remember my whole Star Wars comment. It's from earlier
on in the podcast. But come on, guys ugly and
heart space, skiptic from it, Skiptic, like Marcus hard To say,
for some reason, I'll see you back here and give
(12:22):
them more skippism about things tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Us Talking Talking zid Bean for more from us, Talk
said B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio US Talk sed B Talk said.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday. We're going to teach a
shortage again. We'll still or we always will. I don't know.
Summer holidays are they in the wrong place although we're
happening in summer, but maybe somebody wants them somewhere else.
(00:45):
Should we give out oscars for AI performances? And Marcus
stops caring about comments? Welcome to the club, Marcus, before
any of that inflation, Where are we at?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
The US books are a nightmare. Their debt to GDP
levels exceed one hundred percent of GDP. I think it's
one hundred and ten percent. Japan's is at two hundred
and sixty three percent. Makes us look good. Putin will
feel that Russia's getting stronger in its war with Ukraine
because of this week's development. It feels picked on by
the West. That's a threat, and she controls a lot
(01:19):
of the world's energy. And we've got extreme weather events
and natural disasters which are stressing the world's insurance markets.
That la fires are going to affect everyone. I know
that's a negative list, and I don't like being negative
because New Zealand is putting its house in order, even
though there's many saying that we've done it far too ruthlessly.
But look at it. Our dollar is weak, our petrol
(01:41):
prices are starting to rise, imports are on the way
up in price, and inflation is picked to rise again
later this year because of that alone. So we are
sitting here in a weekened state after the last six years,
and you know that. Look at your company's accounts, look
at my company's accounts, look at the warehouse, look at
the body shop. The risk of another big global shock
(02:03):
is pretty high and it's all potentially bad. So as
the year progress, is this just hope calm heads prevail,
particularly the shorter and medium term. But the deeper question
is will this affect our interest rates when the Reserve
Bank meets in February.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I think it already has, isn't it. The Bank's just
gone on. We don't really care what the Reserve Bank's
up to because they're not doing anything. We're lowering our
aids anyway, isn't there what's happening? I miss something, I've
probably missed something. I often miss something.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
News talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Now? We've got I can't get to the bront of us.
We've got teachers. But once again, it's one of these
problems where we've got too many overseas ones and not enough.
It's like nurses all over again, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
We have quietly sat by and allowed to happen what
I think is the most damaging thing that's ever been
done to our education system. The most damaging thing.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Now what that is?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
The modern learning environment? The modern learning environment, in my
opinion anyway, has been an absolute disaster. And you and
I we have allowed that to happen. I know it
gets moaned about, but no one ever takes at next level,
do they. The fact that teachers have been forced to
(03:14):
teach kids in these barn like settings with tents and
bean bags and cheap is all the noise. Again, who
would want to be a teacher and that kind of setup?
I wouldn't, But you and I we have allowed the
Ministry of Education to force these monstrosities on schools. Sure
we might have had a rant about it to our mates.
But that's all we've done. Might have rung up talk
(03:36):
back about it, that's all we've done. And by stopping there,
we have let teachers down big time, all of us
I have. And by letting teachers down big time by
not advocating for them as much as we should, and
by placing such unrealistic expectations on them, by doing too
(03:57):
much of some stuff and not enough of other stuff,
we have done our first class job of telling people
you should forget about being a teacher. And that's why
we have a shortage. Am I on the money or not?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I do wonder if we should stop telling people how
terrible the education system is, because that doesn't make people
want to be a teacher, does it?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
So?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
You know, even if it isn't very good, if we
just pretended that it was, would more people do it
and then it would slowly get better because you have
better people in there. Stupid ideas, because just stop having ideas,
Ben you talk speaking of stupid ideas. Should we move
the holidays? Seems like every holidays somebody seduced that we
(04:47):
should move the holidays.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
This is a really good idea, and I tell you
it would only take it a decent marketing campaign and
both Australia and New Zealand and we'd be away. Like,
I honestly don't think it's that hard. Like you know, businesses,
we can change when we shut down, if we shut down,
or what if we do over that period. Some of
us stay open right throughout the period because that's the
way we do as this is not hard.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
I just wondered what would the advantage to Australia be
because they have very different weather from us.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Well, they already have. I think some of the school
holidays are a week out of things. So if you
go to the South Island skiing when those of us
take holidays of days outside. So I mean even if
you just made it one week apart or however you
did it, But I remember, teachers aren't going to lose
out here. They're going to get the same amount of
holidays because that's their contracts. So yeah, I'm all for it.
(05:36):
I just think, hey, it makes sense. I like nice
weather when I go aun holiday. It kind of makes
it go better.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
I guess the thing we need if we wanted to
make this happen, and look there's some complications, but you
need a slogan. That was Peter Dunn's problem. He didn't
have a slogan. You know, you know I've never listened
in my life because I've brought up with bear tidy KEI.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Keep New Zealand beautiful.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Yeah, you need a slogan. I'm struggling.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Holiday in the sun, Yeah yeah, Holiday in the sun. Yeah,
the kind of works. I think we can work on
that nine two.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
If you've got a great yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Then well then we'll hit the street with some placards
and yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
I mean you know, we're into protesting, get.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Out there for a good court exactly, love it, positive protests.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
What we do would go to protest holiday parks.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Up, get some billboards going on the march towards Parliament
to shift.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
The protests schools, you know, put a picket line on
schools to stop kids going out.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Can we sort out my idea first, it's not just
my idea, but of not having any public holidays anymore
and just adding those on too everybody's leave allowance so
they can have holidays whenever we want, and then you
won't have any controversy about White Tangy Day or Anzac
Day or anything like that. If you want to celebrate
those days, Christmas, Easter, even celebrate take the day off
(07:01):
if you want. But maybe everybody wants to just have
U summer holiday set. All right. So it's been a
podcast of innovative, controversial, perhaps thinking hanging outside the box today.
And now they're going to give oscars to artificial intelligence?
(07:25):
Is that what's happening?
Speaker 7 (07:26):
In The Brutalist, Adrian Brody and Felicity Jones play Jewish
Hungarians who survived the Nazi camps and escaped to the US.
The actors spent two months working with a dialect coach
to perfect their accents, but the filmmakers wanted their Hungarian
to sound perfect, so added individual sounds and letters to
both Brody and Jones's Hungarian language dialogue to perfect it.
(07:49):
This has caused quite an uproar, and The Brutalist director
Brady Corbett was forced to issue a statement to Hollywood
Trade Publication saying Adrian and Felicity's performance is completely their own,
who went on to say the aim was to preserve
the authenticity of Adrian and Felicity's performance in another language,
not to replace altered them, and done with the utmost
(08:10):
respect for the craft Their performances in this film which
I have seen, are extraordinary. The film is stunning, ambitious, audacious,
and if a tool was used to tweak their Hungarian
along the way, well, Hungarians are probably grateful with Amelia
Peeras it has emerged, AI cloning was used to enhance
the singing voice of Amelia Peire's as Carlo Sophia Garson
(08:32):
to increase the range of Garson's vocal register. Their singing
was then blended with that of Camille, the French pop
star who co wrote the film's score. People are upset
really in the film Elvis Austin Butler's voices mixed with Elds's.
Marilyn Monroe did not hit her own high notes. Zac
Efron has a ghost singer in high school musical films
(08:54):
have been tricking us for years, but suddenly, because it's AI,
everyone is up in arms about it. And it's not
just correcting accents and singing voices where AI is used.
It's already embedded in everything from production to writing to
visual effects. Just don't expect anyone to shout it from
the rooftops. Some say it's more of a pr problem
than a tech problem, and that it's just another tool
(09:14):
like CGI to be used to make better films. Obviously,
there are concerns about the prolific use of AI. No
one wants to see whole sectors of the industry replaced,
such as writers or graphic artists or background actors. It's
often the lowest paid on the call sheet who suffer.
So it is up to the industry to draw the
(09:35):
line and work towards safeguards and regulation so the industry
can find a way to use AI for good and
love or hate it. AI is going to be part
of our lives in ways we can already see, in
ways we can't imagine. Just don't let the controversy ruin
a good film for you.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, it is kind of weird, isn't it. I thought
that's what we wanted movies to do, is to because otherwise,
like star Wars, wouldn't be very interesting things if they
just did stuff that can only happen in real life
the movies. Isn't it? The outset about things these days?
(10:19):
Aren't the.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
News talk? Has it been?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Now? It only happens once iver one hundred and seventy
thousand years or something? What oh? Things are happen every week?
Speaker 8 (10:33):
By the way, too, there is the last chance to
see this atless comet up over comets until a comet
actually lights up the sky. I can't be bothered because
the last couple of being duds. Mind, if anyone has
seen it, it looks extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Do let us know?
Speaker 8 (10:55):
I guess I'm a comets comet septic skiptic. Anyway, the
ickon p Harrold Bethel's is good for this. One of
the next few nights you look at Venux, look at Venus,
and go to the left one and a half. Why
don't I have handspans? I guess it depends how long
your arm is, me saying I'm not interested in comment to.
The more I get down the story, the more fast
(11:16):
that I am.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I don't think arm length effects handspan with does it?
More of the habit your hands are situation there, which
is why it's an interesting way to measure how poor
horses are. But no, stay strong, Marcus be against telling
people to look in the night sky for things that
(11:37):
will always seemed to be up there every night. I mean, yeah, okay,
this particular comet, it's the only time year are going
to see it unless you live for another one hundred
and seventy thousand years or whatever it is. But it
could be another one next week, or a super moon
or a blood moon or I mean, I'm into space.
(11:59):
I remember my whole Star Wars comment. It's from earlier
on in the podcast. But come on, guys ugly and
heart space, skiptic from it, Skiptic, like Marcus hard To say,
for some reason, I'll see you back here and give
(12:22):
them more skippism about things tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Us Talking Talking zid Bean for more from us, Talk
said B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
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