February 2, 2025 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) May as Well Mine It/Our Food Is Killing Us/Sir John Gone/Nadia Seems Nice/Miriam Needs to Know More
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Being
the Weekend edition, first of yesterday's news. I am Glenn Hart,
and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, which
are my favorite days for a weekend. With RFK Junior's
assent to Health Secretary in the United States, it's what
(00:44):
people are asking what's in our food? Among other things.
Sir John Kirwan's called it quits find out what from
Shortly at Nattie read his new music out. Miriam Margolis
has a new TV program out, and Shane there's doing
(01:10):
some more fast tracking and kicking ass when it comes
to mining.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
This mining announcement, you're looking at doubling export from one
point five billion to three billion, which in the context
of GDP is still a tiny fraction. Is the headline
more exciting than the numbers?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Well, the reality is our economy is like a quiver
of arrows. Unless every arrow strikes the target, they are
going to be various regions that never had the chance
to use the endowment that comprises key features of their economy.
So if it's so Pargo, if it's parts of a
(01:50):
bay penty, and why Kado, if it's parts of the
West coast, we need mining because in those localities, the
headline is actually dwarfed by the reality.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, what about the conservation land, because there are different
categories of conservation land that there is a lot of
rhetorica around how it's sacrilege to be doing it on
the conservation land. What can you say to people who
hear those headlines and are concerned about it.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Well, we have about a third of New Zealand and
Docker states. We don't generate enough revenue as a nation
to look after thoroughly the Docker state.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yep, So mine it, baby, mine at mine it for
all it's worth. Look, if you can't look after your
nice things, you shan't be allowed them, and somebody else
will just come along and level them or draw them
or dig into them, move them. It's just sitting there,
isn't it, All that dock stuff sitting there for people
(02:53):
to walk around and look at, not making any money.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
News talk has it been?
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Sometimes?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It sounds like you're a big fan of the fast
tracking policies. I don't know where you got that idea
from now out RFK Junior's a funny old fish, but
it hasn't stopped them being confirmed as the health secretary
(03:20):
in the United States. One of his big things sort
of a gray area about the whole vaccine thing, given
the stuff that he said during his complimation hearing. But
one of his big things is that he thinks our
food is killing us.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
So he returned after four or five weeks, expecting to
find a writhing blob of blue penicillin in his pantry,
only to discover a bag of bread without a single
spot of mold, without a single spore anywhere. Yes, we wondered,
if that bread can survive a month in a warm cupboard,
(03:57):
what's it doing to us? And yet, on average, despite
spending twice as much on healthcare per capita than other large,
wealthy countries, life expectancy in the US is five years lower.
It's bananas A. Well it's not bananas. I suppose it's yeah,
high fruit tose corn syrup. A. They spend twice as
(04:20):
much per person on healthcare only to live five years less.
We can't pin at all on ultraprocessed foods, but diet
certainly plays a role in that about half of the
trillion US dollar supermarket industry they reckon as ultra processed food.
So in New Zealand dollars, that means that the ultra
(04:43):
processed food industry in US supermarkets is worth about eight
hundred and fifty billion New Zealand dollars every year. So
if RFK Junior is confirmed and can break through some
of the vested interests that underpin that, honestly, all power, Tim.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I've never really understood this whole argument that because something
goes off, it's good for you and the things that
don't go off.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Are bad for you.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Did you get there? It's I don't know, is it
a causation or a correlation thing there? I generally speaking,
I'd rather have stuff that doesn't go off, wouldn't you?
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Anyway?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You talk right, So, sir John Coohan one of our
most successful all black wingers, Yes he was, I know
some of you are too young to remember. And then
he coached a few teams and most recently he's been
a you know, a sports commentator. But he's decided to
(05:54):
check it in.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
There are all sorts of texts coming in saying don't retire.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
What's going on, mate, Well, you know, where the stars align,
you just got to sort of listen, to listen to
the voices and bolly you gut. You know, my dad
always said that, you know, don't let your brain get
in the way of what your gut's trying to tell you.
So I just think, you know, a few things have
lined up, and so I just decided it was time
(06:18):
to move on. You know, I don't want to I
don't want to be, you know, ten years from now
because I'm sixteen. Our pony, which is which is a
which is an interesting challenge in it's own right. I
don't want to be ten years from now saying oh
should I wish I'd have done that and this and that.
So but I had a blast Pine, it's been it's
been a it's been an amazing, amazing nine years or
ten years or whatever. So I'll miss it for sure.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Was broadcasting something you thought about doing when you were
playing or coaching.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
It's something that I always felt, you know, I was
brought up in an era where media was sort of
viewed often as the enemy, but you know, I believe
that it was always part of the game and we
were all teammates.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So it's funny, hasn't it how people get tired of
the same brush. I'm the media and I would hate
to think that I'm anybody's in a me really. So
it was weird, wasn't it. I mean I'm weird. I
can't deny that.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Nadia Read very successful New Zealand musician. I'm not a
massive Sean, I don't. It's not I don't have anything
against Nadia Read. It's her. Malon Williams would be the
two New Zealand and possibly Timmy Nilson, three New Zealand
artists that I really don't undis fully understand what it
(07:45):
is they're trying to do with the music, but lots
of people seem to and lots of people seem to
dig it.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Interer out brightness. Mark's a shift on lots of different fronts.
But I suppose it also marks a literal shift for you.
You're speaking to us from Manchester, of all places, and
this is your new home.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
It has been here fourteen months. Yeah, it's it's it's
starting to feel like home now. Yeah, it's taken me
a while. I think anyone that's been to Manchester, well,
anyone that's been the UK knows that arriving in the
depths of winter is a tough one and but it's
(08:25):
it's grown on me and yeah, it's feeling good.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It's a it's a shock, isn't it. When you see
the sun setting like carter A four in the afternoon,
you think, hang on, hang on, I'm being robbed here.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
Totally, and just you know, we're just like taking Vitamin
D every day because you actually don't see I mean,
there was a little bit of sun today, but yeah,
I'm hanging out for a for a for a Kiwi
summer for sure.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
So why Manchester? Why Manchester of all places?
Speaker 7 (08:58):
Mm, well, my management live here, I I and my
press agent lived here, lives here, and so I've visited
over there last well since twenty sixteen. I visited Manchester
a lot, and well, I toured the UK a lot,
and I think initially I was I really was quite
(09:21):
smating with Brighton and you know, I really like London
and I think those places perhaps were just a little
bit well, it just didn't feel like the right time
to be in London. And so we went up north
and knew three people and just kind of took a
(09:44):
bit of a risk really, and it's I mean also,
I think there is a bit of an exodus happening
at the moment, like people are leaving London and moving
sort of all over the place because they want more room.
And you know, even my friends in London who have
(10:06):
very fancy jobs, you know, they're still in very more
flats and I just wanted a bit more.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Space.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I don't get the London thing. I don't get the
England thing.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Really.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I mean, I've never been.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
I should go, really, and then I'll know diffinitely whether
it's for me or not.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Most places where I've gone, when I come back to
New Zealand, I go, no, this is the place for me,
because why I'm still here.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I suppose news talk has it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Been anyway, Let's do it the other way around. Miriam
and my goalies of course from England, but she came
here to figure out the difference between New Zealand and Australia.
Speaker 9 (10:47):
I was surprised that you've never filmed here before, and
even more surprised that you didn't know an awful lot
about New Zealand when you only live three hours away. Sometimes,
how was this possible?
Speaker 10 (10:57):
No, I have been many times to New Zealand because
I've got family in Remoera. But I didn't know about
the country. I've never sort of examined it and certainly
never tried to compare it to Australia. But this time
I was professionally interested. I wanted to see, you know,
(11:18):
what gives in New Zealand, what happens, what makes it different?
And so yes, I came with a with an object
in view and it was a fascinating experience.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
It really was.
Speaker 9 (11:33):
And can I say I've watched the episodes. I was
lucky enough to be traded to a couple of episodes
and I really enjoyed it. So you actually did film
quite a bit here last year, the film That's traveled tour,
and you also toured a stage show and you voiced
bad Jelly from here. Also, I believe, so are we
winning you? Are we winning you over? Can you see
yourself buying a home somewhere in New Zealand at some point?
Speaker 10 (11:56):
Well, look, I'm eighty three and I don't think that
I'm going to start buying property anywhere. But if I'd
come to New Zealand first, I would definitely have settled here.
I mean in New zeal Definitely. I've gone off of Australia.
That's the truth.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Really.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
Was it the people or the food or a combination.
Speaker 10 (12:20):
I think the main reason was because of the result
of the referendum vote. That shook me. And I just
think that somehow there is a sweetness and a surprise
about New Zealand. It's unusual and it's not Americanized, and
(12:43):
Australia is very Americanized, and that I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Like boom okay that America, Miriam isn't about you.
Speaker 8 (12:52):
It's damn sure. I was fucky said so here there actually,
So what we've established here really is that I'm not
a fan of London and not a fan of America
generally speaking, and America. I have been two bits of that.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Nice to visit, wouldn't want to live there. Well, I
can tell you about that, So there you go. I
think basically what we've established out of this podcast is
that I'm quite closed minded about all sorts of things.
I thought I was open minded, but it is out.
I'm not his music. I don't like these places. I
don't like to have a grumpy old man, aren't I
(13:38):
Go away and reevaluate, come back to keen tomorrow, I'll
see you.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Being
the Weekend edition, first of yesterday's news. I am Glenn Hart,
and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, which
are my favorite days for a weekend. With RFK Junior's
assent to Health Secretary in the United States, it's what
(00:44):
people are asking what's in our food? Among other things.
Sir John Kirwan's called it quits find out what from
Shortly at Nattie read his new music out. Miriam Margolis
has a new TV program out, and Shane there's doing
(01:10):
some more fast tracking and kicking ass when it comes
to mining.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
This mining announcement, you're looking at doubling export from one
point five billion to three billion, which in the context
of GDP is still a tiny fraction. Is the headline
more exciting than the numbers?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Well, the reality is our economy is like a quiver
of arrows. Unless every arrow strikes the target, they are
going to be various regions that never had the chance
to use the endowment that comprises key features of their economy.
So if it's so Pargo, if it's parts of a
(01:50):
bay penty, and why Kado, if it's parts of the
West coast, we need mining because in those localities, the
headline is actually dwarfed by the reality.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, what about the conservation land, because there are different
categories of conservation land that there is a lot of
rhetorica around how it's sacrilege to be doing it on
the conservation land. What can you say to people who
hear those headlines and are concerned about it.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Well, we have about a third of New Zealand and
Docker states. We don't generate enough revenue as a nation
to look after thoroughly the Docker state.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yep, So mine it, baby, mine at mine it for
all it's worth. Look, if you can't look after your
nice things, you shan't be allowed them, and somebody else
will just come along and level them or draw them
or dig into them, move them. It's just sitting there,
isn't it, All that dock stuff sitting there for people
(02:53):
to walk around and look at, not making any money.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
News talk has it been?
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Sometimes?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It sounds like you're a big fan of the fast
tracking policies. I don't know where you got that idea
from now out RFK Junior's a funny old fish, but
it hasn't stopped them being confirmed as the health secretary
(03:20):
in the United States. One of his big things sort
of a gray area about the whole vaccine thing, given
the stuff that he said during his complimation hearing. But
one of his big things is that he thinks our
food is killing us.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
So he returned after four or five weeks, expecting to
find a writhing blob of blue penicillin in his pantry,
only to discover a bag of bread without a single
spot of mold, without a single spore anywhere. Yes, we wondered,
if that bread can survive a month in a warm cupboard,
(03:57):
what's it doing to us? And yet, on average, despite
spending twice as much on healthcare per capita than other large,
wealthy countries, life expectancy in the US is five years lower.
It's bananas A. Well it's not bananas. I suppose it's yeah,
high fruit tose corn syrup. A. They spend twice as
(04:20):
much per person on healthcare only to live five years less.
We can't pin at all on ultraprocessed foods, but diet
certainly plays a role in that about half of the
trillion US dollar supermarket industry they reckon as ultra processed food.
So in New Zealand dollars, that means that the ultra
(04:43):
processed food industry in US supermarkets is worth about eight
hundred and fifty billion New Zealand dollars every year. So
if RFK Junior is confirmed and can break through some
of the vested interests that underpin that, honestly, all power, Tim.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I've never really understood this whole argument that because something
goes off, it's good for you and the things that
don't go off.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Are bad for you.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Did you get there? It's I don't know, is it
a causation or a correlation thing there? I generally speaking,
I'd rather have stuff that doesn't go off, wouldn't you?
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Anyway?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You talk right, So, sir John Coohan one of our
most successful all black wingers, Yes he was, I know
some of you are too young to remember. And then
he coached a few teams and most recently he's been
a you know, a sports commentator. But he's decided to
(05:54):
check it in.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
There are all sorts of texts coming in saying don't retire.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
What's going on, mate, Well, you know, where the stars align,
you just got to sort of listen, to listen to
the voices and bolly you gut. You know, my dad
always said that, you know, don't let your brain get
in the way of what your gut's trying to tell you.
So I just think, you know, a few things have
lined up, and so I just decided it was time
(06:18):
to move on. You know, I don't want to I
don't want to be, you know, ten years from now
because I'm sixteen. Our pony, which is which is a
which is an interesting challenge in it's own right. I
don't want to be ten years from now saying oh
should I wish I'd have done that and this and that.
So but I had a blast Pine, it's been it's
been a it's been an amazing, amazing nine years or
ten years or whatever. So I'll miss it for sure.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Was broadcasting something you thought about doing when you were
playing or coaching.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
It's something that I always felt, you know, I was
brought up in an era where media was sort of
viewed often as the enemy, but you know, I believe
that it was always part of the game and we
were all teammates.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So it's funny, hasn't it how people get tired of
the same brush. I'm the media and I would hate
to think that I'm anybody's in a me really. So
it was weird, wasn't it. I mean I'm weird. I
can't deny that.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Nadia Read very successful New Zealand musician. I'm not a
massive Sean, I don't. It's not I don't have anything
against Nadia Read. It's her. Malon Williams would be the
two New Zealand and possibly Timmy Nilson, three New Zealand
artists that I really don't undis fully understand what it
(07:45):
is they're trying to do with the music, but lots
of people seem to and lots of people seem to
dig it.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Interer out brightness. Mark's a shift on lots of different fronts.
But I suppose it also marks a literal shift for you.
You're speaking to us from Manchester, of all places, and
this is your new home.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
It has been here fourteen months. Yeah, it's it's it's
starting to feel like home now. Yeah, it's taken me
a while. I think anyone that's been to Manchester, well,
anyone that's been the UK knows that arriving in the
depths of winter is a tough one and but it's
(08:25):
it's grown on me and yeah, it's feeling good.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It's a it's a shock, isn't it. When you see
the sun setting like carter A four in the afternoon,
you think, hang on, hang on, I'm being robbed here.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
Totally, and just you know, we're just like taking Vitamin
D every day because you actually don't see I mean,
there was a little bit of sun today, but yeah,
I'm hanging out for a for a for a Kiwi
summer for sure.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
So why Manchester? Why Manchester of all places?
Speaker 7 (08:58):
Mm, well, my management live here, I I and my
press agent lived here, lives here, and so I've visited
over there last well since twenty sixteen. I visited Manchester
a lot, and well, I toured the UK a lot,
and I think initially I was I really was quite
(09:21):
smating with Brighton and you know, I really like London
and I think those places perhaps were just a little
bit well, it just didn't feel like the right time
to be in London. And so we went up north
and knew three people and just kind of took a
(09:44):
bit of a risk really, and it's I mean also,
I think there is a bit of an exodus happening
at the moment, like people are leaving London and moving
sort of all over the place because they want more room.
And you know, even my friends in London who have
(10:06):
very fancy jobs, you know, they're still in very more
flats and I just wanted a bit more.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Space.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I don't get the London thing. I don't get the
England thing.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Really.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I mean, I've never been.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
I should go, really, and then I'll know diffinitely whether
it's for me or not.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Most places where I've gone, when I come back to
New Zealand, I go, no, this is the place for me,
because why I'm still here.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I suppose news talk has it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Been anyway, Let's do it the other way around. Miriam
and my goalies of course from England, but she came
here to figure out the difference between New Zealand and Australia.
Speaker 9 (10:47):
I was surprised that you've never filmed here before, and
even more surprised that you didn't know an awful lot
about New Zealand when you only live three hours away. Sometimes,
how was this possible?
Speaker 10 (10:57):
No, I have been many times to New Zealand because
I've got family in Remoera. But I didn't know about
the country. I've never sort of examined it and certainly
never tried to compare it to Australia. But this time
I was professionally interested. I wanted to see, you know,
(11:18):
what gives in New Zealand, what happens, what makes it different?
And so yes, I came with a with an object
in view and it was a fascinating experience.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
It really was.
Speaker 9 (11:33):
And can I say I've watched the episodes. I was
lucky enough to be traded to a couple of episodes
and I really enjoyed it. So you actually did film
quite a bit here last year, the film That's traveled tour,
and you also toured a stage show and you voiced
bad Jelly from here. Also, I believe, so are we
winning you? Are we winning you over? Can you see
yourself buying a home somewhere in New Zealand at some point?
Speaker 10 (11:56):
Well, look, I'm eighty three and I don't think that
I'm going to start buying property anywhere. But if I'd
come to New Zealand first, I would definitely have settled here.
I mean in New zeal Definitely. I've gone off of Australia.
That's the truth.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Really.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
Was it the people or the food or a combination.
Speaker 10 (12:20):
I think the main reason was because of the result
of the referendum vote. That shook me. And I just
think that somehow there is a sweetness and a surprise
about New Zealand. It's unusual and it's not Americanized, and
(12:43):
Australia is very Americanized, and that I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Like boom okay that America, Miriam isn't about you.
Speaker 8 (12:52):
It's damn sure. I was fucky said so here there actually,
So what we've established here really is that I'm not
a fan of London and not a fan of America
generally speaking, and America. I have been two bits of that.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Nice to visit, wouldn't want to live there. Well, I
can tell you about that, So there you go. I
think basically what we've established out of this podcast is
that I'm quite closed minded about all sorts of things.
I thought I was open minded, but it is out.
I'm not his music. I don't like these places. I
don't like to have a grumpy old man, aren't I
(13:38):
Go away and reevaluate, come back to keen tomorrow, I'll
see you.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Then News Talks Talking Said Bean. For more from News
Talk Said b Listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
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