February 3, 2025 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) You Can't Say He Hasn't Put U.S. First/When Were We Best at Education?/So Over Productivity/Matt Does a Runner/Is Wicked Good or Not?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I'm Glenn Hatton. We are looking
back at Monday with everybody back at school. Education is
top of mind, with everybody back at work, Productivity is
top of mind. Camping grounds are charging for visitors or something,
(00:47):
but that just leads to a disgusting story from Matt Heath.
It just seems to be an annual supply of disgusting stories.
And then we're going to finish up with a Star
Wars Wicked mesh up or something good to see a Marcus.
I'm not quite sure what's going on there, No change there,
but first up, as free trade dead? Does I mean Trump?
(01:10):
What's trying to do here?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Tariffs will go on every single little tiny widget that's
imported from these three countries, not just finished goods and services.
So the little screw that tightens the engine that's assembled
in America will go up in price as well. So
stuff that's made in America will increase in price because
of what they import. To put in it, these three
(01:31):
countries account for forty percent of imports to the United States.
Sure it will create some local jobs, but you'll then
be hit with higher prices. America has been the driver
of global growth over the past few years, so if
their demand starts wavering as stuff becomes more expensive, and
with China and Europe week at the moment, then we
(01:52):
will lose. It's why we spent the eighties and nineties
knocking down tariffs quicker than the Berlin Wall. Each country,
in theory, has a competitive advantage in making something for us.
It's been high quality, carbon efficient farming as an exams.
So doing away with subsidies and terrists which distort markets,
(02:13):
encourages investment, innovation, specialization. You get really good at doing
something and then selling it to the world. Free trade
is one of the most important economic developments that this
country has ever seen. And in Trump's world, it's an idea.
Sadly that's under threat, and that is not a good
(02:34):
thing for any of us.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You'd have to say, he's not exactly bringing the whole
world together?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Is he?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
The hard thing to convince the electorate about, isn't it
foreign affairs? But He's basically campaigned on doing what's best
for America and buger everybody else. And that sounds appealing
to Americans because it's not everybody else who votes.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
News talk Z been right back to.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
School, Back to school everyone, It's like, how's it going,
It's the fast track to GUS. The Coalition government really
started to get the momentum going on things like numeracy
and literacy.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So many parents are spending thousands of dollars per child
every year to shore up the gaps in their children's
knowledge with private tuition or sending them to private schools.
They know the state education is and has been stubstandard,
and it's not the fault of the teachers. It's the
policy wonks in the Ministry of Education whose half baked
theories formulated over dinner parties in Calvin inexplicably and inexcusably
(03:48):
made it into the classroom. And for decades now, our
once world famous education system has degraded to where it
is now thirty percent of kids last year not passing
the most basic secondary school exam. So as we start
(04:09):
the school here as we have with a call to
arms from Erica Stanford and structured learning is going to
be the savior. Let's hope it is. When it comes
to employers, what are you seeing coming out of our
schools at the moment? According to Peter Willis, it'll be
seven years before we see any benefits from structured learning.
(04:31):
We've got concerns about our productivity. We've got investors, as
you heard this morning, traveling New Zealand looking for bright
young things with startup ideas. Where the hell are those
bright young things going to come from if we don't
embrace the structured learning and reclaim our world class education?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Do you reckon our education system was world class? What
does that mean? I guess she's saying it was the
best in the world at any stage. By she, I mean, Carrie,
I don't even remember anybody talking about how awesome were
we are education. And I'm fifty one, so i've been
(05:17):
My contact with the education system I suppose started when
I was five, so forty six years I don't even
remember anybody going, hey, we're the best at education in
the world. I mean, I'm not excusing it. It would be
good if we were. But sometimes I do wonder if
(05:40):
we harken back to a past that never existed. You
talk sid Yeah, so our terrible, terrible schools are ruining
our lives and are probably to blame for our lack
of productivity. Is that what it is?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
They sat there and claimed that we have one of
the highest company tax rates in the world, which is balderdesh.
We set it around twenty eight percent. Australia is at
thirty percent, the states in the UK are around twenty
six percent. We're actually slightly above. Media and no disrespect
to Tom Brash, you had terms as a Reserve Bank
governor and a leader of a couple of political parties
(06:15):
and plenty of opportunities to lift productivity, but you failed too.
And the third piece was from Sam Stubbs, who said,
if we're selling public assets, let's sell them to New
Zealanders like super funds, so the wealth stays in New
Zealand instead of being exported. And I agreed with this.
Stop saying productivity, start saying wealth creation. Start creating some wealth,
(06:38):
keep it in New Zealand, find out how to make
or supply stuff that the world wants, and then keep
the profits and the workers in New Zealand. Then we
start generating wealth. Then we recycle it to make more
wealth and that is Denmark's trick. You know, you know
that Denmark operates the second largest container ship operation in
the world. And the reason why to import capital rather
(06:59):
than to export it.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Oh there you go, economy sort of thank you. Andrew
dickens ideas man current host of Early Editions, I don't
really understand a lot of the stuff that he was
just saying. That sounded pretty good. Yesterday, Matt and Tyler
were talking about Kemping Grounds charging for camping ground customers
(07:25):
who have visitors visited anybody at a kemping grounds did
you get charged anyway? It led to this horrible, horrible
story from Mett.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
He Eric Brush he owns this campsite that we were
talking about, and they just have decided that it's that
they need to do that for the rules of their place.
You just pay the rules of the place. Of the
rules of the place. I mean, I'm in one night. Yes,
I shouldn't talk about this. Oh well, one night when
I was a university stand and I met a young
lady and ended up staying the night at Unicol the hostel.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
All right, and she charged you.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
No, she didn't chudge me. Wasn't one of those kinds
of things. When I was leaving in the morning, the
one of the people that ran the place try to
charge me for the staying over. Yeah, and I thought,
fair cop, Yeah, I have stayed to night.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
You know it was good night. Money well spent here
you go, and so I ran away.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
So he ran away? Is he still under the ninety
day probation? Are we sure we want to keep him?
It seems like a person of questionable moral.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Character news talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Not like Marcus Lash He knows where it's at. Unfortunately,
he doesn't seem to know the difference between Star Trek
and Star Wars, which is a sure far away to
get you offside with a lot of people. But I
think he had half an eye on the Grammys last
night when he was on air.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
By the way, I spent some time today watching a
four hour YouTube video a woman has done of her
experience at the Star Trek Star Wars Sorry, at the
(09:06):
Star Wars Millennium Immersive Experience motel at Disneyland that costs
six thousand dollars per person and ended after about a year.
And it's damning, but gee, that's a compelling listen. Wow.
For four hours, she goes on about her trip there
four hours. It's a bit like Wicked. You wish it
(09:31):
was longer. Yeah, no one warns the Wicked. Did my
mate for anyone from Wicked? Kidney grammys? Dan, I don't
give her them? Are Yeah? Did anyone from Wicked? Gidney Grammys?
I think she's already got the Tony, Grammy, Oscar, Cynthia.
(09:56):
I think what you got the egot? Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, Tony.
I think she's got the egot. I think she got
it for color purple or whatever. I think she got
the Tony. I think she got the I think she's
got the Oscar. I think she's got the egot. Either way,
it was only this year I learned about the egot egots.
Did you get the Emmy, the Grammy, the Oscar and
(10:17):
the Tony? What's the New Zealand equivalent of the egot?
Don't know. If you haven't seen Wicked, get thee to
a theater quickly?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Why would you do that? You can stream it? It
was it was he being facetious about Wicked. Everybody says
it's fantastic, everybody, I'm talking you anyway, So was he
genuinely saying it was? He liked it, or we don't
(10:52):
have awards like that obviously. I don't think we don't
have the Music Awards anymore. I don't think they have
the Film and Television Awards anymore. I wish they didn't
have the Radio Awards anymore. I mean, I've won quite
a few over the years, but I couldn't care less
(11:12):
about them. Can we get rid of them?
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Please?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
If we're not having all these other ones, surely we
don't need radio awards. Maybe I should need to listen
to the Grammys? Is there a best podcast in the Grammys?
Don the best? I am blen Hat and I'll be
beck with another award fending podcast.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
For the most news talk is talking?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Has it been for more from news Talk? Said B.
Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said Bee.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk, sed Be Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I'm Glenn Hatton. We are looking
back at Monday with everybody back at school. Education is
top of mind, with everybody back at work, Productivity is
top of mind. Camping grounds are charging for visitors or something,
(00:47):
but that just leads to a disgusting story from Matt Heath.
It just seems to be an annual supply of disgusting stories.
And then we're going to finish up with a Star
Wars Wicked mesh up or something good to see a Marcus.
I'm not quite sure what's going on there, No change there,
but first up, as free trade dead? Does I mean Trump?
(01:10):
What's trying to do here?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Tariffs will go on every single little tiny widget that's
imported from these three countries, not just finished goods and services.
So the little screw that tightens the engine that's assembled
in America will go up in price as well. So
stuff that's made in America will increase in price because
of what they import. To put in it, these three
(01:31):
countries account for forty percent of imports to the United States.
Sure it will create some local jobs, but you'll then
be hit with higher prices. America has been the driver
of global growth over the past few years, so if
their demand starts wavering as stuff becomes more expensive, and
with China and Europe week at the moment, then we
(01:52):
will lose. It's why we spent the eighties and nineties
knocking down tariffs quicker than the Berlin Wall. Each country,
in theory, has a competitive advantage in making something for us.
It's been high quality, carbon efficient farming as an exams.
So doing away with subsidies and terrists which distort markets,
(02:13):
encourages investment, innovation, specialization. You get really good at doing
something and then selling it to the world. Free trade
is one of the most important economic developments that this
country has ever seen. And in Trump's world, it's an idea.
Sadly that's under threat, and that is not a good
(02:34):
thing for any of us.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You'd have to say, he's not exactly bringing the whole
world together?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Is he?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
The hard thing to convince the electorate about, isn't it
foreign affairs? But He's basically campaigned on doing what's best
for America and buger everybody else. And that sounds appealing
to Americans because it's not everybody else who votes.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
News talk Z been right back to.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
School, Back to school everyone, It's like, how's it going,
It's the fast track to GUS. The Coalition government really
started to get the momentum going on things like numeracy
and literacy.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So many parents are spending thousands of dollars per child
every year to shore up the gaps in their children's
knowledge with private tuition or sending them to private schools.
They know the state education is and has been stubstandard,
and it's not the fault of the teachers. It's the
policy wonks in the Ministry of Education whose half baked
theories formulated over dinner parties in Calvin inexplicably and inexcusably
(03:48):
made it into the classroom. And for decades now, our
once world famous education system has degraded to where it
is now thirty percent of kids last year not passing
the most basic secondary school exam. So as we start
(04:09):
the school here as we have with a call to
arms from Erica Stanford and structured learning is going to
be the savior. Let's hope it is. When it comes
to employers, what are you seeing coming out of our
schools at the moment? According to Peter Willis, it'll be
seven years before we see any benefits from structured learning.
(04:31):
We've got concerns about our productivity. We've got investors, as
you heard this morning, traveling New Zealand looking for bright
young things with startup ideas. Where the hell are those
bright young things going to come from if we don't
embrace the structured learning and reclaim our world class education?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Do you reckon our education system was world class? What
does that mean? I guess she's saying it was the
best in the world at any stage. By she, I mean, Carrie,
I don't even remember anybody talking about how awesome were
we are education. And I'm fifty one, so i've been
(05:17):
My contact with the education system I suppose started when
I was five, so forty six years I don't even
remember anybody going, hey, we're the best at education in
the world. I mean, I'm not excusing it. It would be
good if we were. But sometimes I do wonder if
(05:40):
we harken back to a past that never existed. You
talk sid Yeah, so our terrible, terrible schools are ruining
our lives and are probably to blame for our lack
of productivity. Is that what it is?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
They sat there and claimed that we have one of
the highest company tax rates in the world, which is balderdesh.
We set it around twenty eight percent. Australia is at
thirty percent, the states in the UK are around twenty
six percent. We're actually slightly above. Media and no disrespect
to Tom Brash, you had terms as a Reserve Bank
governor and a leader of a couple of political parties
(06:15):
and plenty of opportunities to lift productivity, but you failed too.
And the third piece was from Sam Stubbs, who said,
if we're selling public assets, let's sell them to New
Zealanders like super funds, so the wealth stays in New
Zealand instead of being exported. And I agreed with this.
Stop saying productivity, start saying wealth creation. Start creating some wealth,
(06:38):
keep it in New Zealand, find out how to make
or supply stuff that the world wants, and then keep
the profits and the workers in New Zealand. Then we
start generating wealth. Then we recycle it to make more
wealth and that is Denmark's trick. You know, you know
that Denmark operates the second largest container ship operation in
the world. And the reason why to import capital rather
(06:59):
than to export it.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Oh there you go, economy sort of thank you. Andrew
dickens ideas man current host of Early Editions, I don't
really understand a lot of the stuff that he was
just saying. That sounded pretty good. Yesterday, Matt and Tyler
were talking about Kemping Grounds charging for camping ground customers
(07:25):
who have visitors visited anybody at a kemping grounds did
you get charged anyway? It led to this horrible, horrible
story from Mett.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
He Eric Brush he owns this campsite that we were
talking about, and they just have decided that it's that
they need to do that for the rules of their place.
You just pay the rules of the place. Of the
rules of the place. I mean, I'm in one night. Yes,
I shouldn't talk about this. Oh well, one night when
I was a university stand and I met a young
lady and ended up staying the night at Unicol the hostel.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
All right, and she charged you.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
No, she didn't chudge me. Wasn't one of those kinds
of things. When I was leaving in the morning, the
one of the people that ran the place try to
charge me for the staying over. Yeah, and I thought,
fair cop, Yeah, I have stayed to night.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
You know it was good night. Money well spent here
you go, and so I ran away.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
So he ran away? Is he still under the ninety
day probation? Are we sure we want to keep him?
It seems like a person of questionable moral.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Character news talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Not like Marcus Lash He knows where it's at. Unfortunately,
he doesn't seem to know the difference between Star Trek
and Star Wars, which is a sure far away to
get you offside with a lot of people. But I
think he had half an eye on the Grammys last
night when he was on air.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
By the way, I spent some time today watching a
four hour YouTube video a woman has done of her
experience at the Star Trek Star Wars Sorry, at the
(09:06):
Star Wars Millennium Immersive Experience motel at Disneyland that costs
six thousand dollars per person and ended after about a year.
And it's damning, but gee, that's a compelling listen. Wow.
For four hours, she goes on about her trip there
four hours. It's a bit like Wicked. You wish it
(09:31):
was longer. Yeah, no one warns the Wicked. Did my
mate for anyone from Wicked? Kidney grammys? Dan, I don't
give her them? Are Yeah? Did anyone from Wicked? Gidney Grammys?
I think she's already got the Tony, Grammy, Oscar, Cynthia.
(09:56):
I think what you got the egot? Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, Tony.
I think she's got the egot. I think she got
it for color purple or whatever. I think she got
the Tony. I think she got the I think she's
got the Oscar. I think she's got the egot. Either way,
it was only this year I learned about the egot egots.
Did you get the Emmy, the Grammy, the Oscar and
(10:17):
the Tony? What's the New Zealand equivalent of the egot?
Don't know. If you haven't seen Wicked, get thee to
a theater quickly?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Why would you do that? You can stream it? It
was it was he being facetious about Wicked. Everybody says
it's fantastic, everybody, I'm talking you anyway, So was he
genuinely saying it was? He liked it, or we don't
(10:52):
have awards like that obviously. I don't think we don't
have the Music Awards anymore. I don't think they have
the Film and Television Awards anymore. I wish they didn't
have the Radio Awards anymore. I mean, I've won quite
a few over the years, but I couldn't care less
(11:12):
about them. Can we get rid of them?
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Please?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
If we're not having all these other ones, surely we
don't need radio awards. Maybe I should need to listen
to the Grammys? Is there a best podcast in the Grammys?
Don the best? I am blen Hat and I'll be
beck with another award fending podcast.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
For the most news talk is talking?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Has it been for more from news Talk? Said B.
Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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