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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for
Wednesday versus Yesterday's News. I am Glen Hart. We are
looking back at Tuesday and we've got a lot of
people pulling sickies at the moment for strange reasons. When
did this start happening or has it always been happening? Well,
(00:48):
should we fiddle with corporate text to try and make
our country more prosperous but.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Falls and against for that?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Should kia or to own two million dollar homes? And
we've got some lawn knowing stuff at the end of
the podcast. But first up, jobs, it's getting hard out there.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Apparently in tough times you need experienced workers, and with
so many experienced workers losing their jobs, saying there's a
whole cohort of older workers floating around. They're taking the
jobs the youngsters used to get, and you can't blame
those older guys. You need to ditch your humility and
concentrate on cash flow to survive in twenty twenty five,
we all need money. I'll take a job this below me.
But the older generation is also fitting the heat. Old
(01:36):
workers are finding it harder and harder too. They may
have the knowledge, but boss is younger than them. Sit
there and wonder how many years have you got left
in you? How many years can you give the company?
The souper is looming, the kids have left home, the
mortgage is paid. You want to go fishing, don't you?
You know what, I might not put my money on you.
It's said that we need to be a meritocracy again.
(01:57):
It's said that these days we need to hire the
best person for the job. Ditch the DEI you know,
the diversity, equity and inclusion. Find the best person for
the job, no matter how old or young they are.
Surely we should be hiring the experience guys, even if
they can only give five years, because they are experienced.
And surely we should be hiring the kids because they
(02:19):
are a great investment. They will pay their way back
to you for the next twenty five years. So here's
the message to middle management. In these tough times, I
go for an old guy or a young guy. Those
guys in the middle I'm not so sure.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I'm absolutely terrified of losing my job because of course
I don't actually have any skills. I don't have any qualifications.
I don't have any skills, and I know that it's
really only a matter of time before they find out
that I don't really do anything here. I mean, look
(02:54):
at me. I'm hosting an imaginary radio show. I mean,
I don't even know if anybody's listening. Are you listening? Hello?
And then I and then you know, the other part
of my job is I just push buttons at random
on the breakfast show and hope that I don't push
(03:16):
the wrong one. Nobody's going to Nobody else is going
to hire me to do that. I don't know how
it happened, but I just try and keep my head
down and hope that nobody notices that I'm here news talk.
Has it been, mind you? I don't call in sick
unless I absolutely have to, and historically, I mean I've
(03:38):
been working for this company for decades now, literally literally
for decades. Really, the only time I've called in sick
is when I busted my shoulders, which unfortunately I've done twice.
I've got two shoulders, you see.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
I'm still I'm so having to think how I feel
about pet leave because you know, I love Pepper.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
She's a good dog. You love Colin. If she got
she had the sniffles, it's uh, you know, she was
feeling abit under the weather.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
I don't even like to say the age of my
dog Colin. I even sometimes kind of trying under I
know exactly as age, but I kind of understay it.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, because I don't want to think about because.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
He's ten now, yeah, and I cannot face losing my
dog Colin. So I reckon I'll take fifty days. Pat's
the cleave when Colin goes.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Down, And I wouldn't blame you.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I think you can probably find a bit of a
a loophole there if you f like net you've called
your dog a name like Colin. In my case, my
dog's name is Jerry. You know, because I think if
you say to your employer, look, Colin has passed away
(04:46):
or as six, I've got to have some time off,
that seems a lot more reasonable than a fido he
might be on his last legs.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I'm going to have to you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It's interesting, isn't it that he's got a dog called Colin,
and there's that program Colin from account which is about
a dog called Colin as well, and he said that
Colin's tenus who he's always been called Colin. So did
the Colin from accounts writers get their idea for calling
a dog Colin? Off Matt Heath, which came first, But
(05:26):
he thaw the egg always asking that question. Now, this
ongoing hand ringing over productivity and tax and trying to
attract foreign investment.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Bloody, bloody blah.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
How do we do that? We do we tweak tax
so on New Zealand companies can do business here more easily.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
So really the key is driving productivity, driving confidence in
our businesses, attracting foreign event investment, all of those things
that Paul Bloxam was talking about. The economist I spoke
to last week on Friday, he said, he of the
rockstar economy phrase, was commenting on the fact that now
(06:21):
we are at the bottom thirty eight out of thirty
eight in terms of performing economies, and he said, we
need to do all the things that we are doing
right now that this coalition government is doing right now.
Attract foreign investment, get the free trade deals going, increase productivity,
limit regulation so businesses can do what they do best.
(06:46):
And then you can afford to lower. Well, I suppose
it's a finely balanced thing. You've got to attract the
foreign investment here, so therefore you've got to make the
corporate tax rate competitive. But when that pie is bigger
and growing, then we are all better off.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
What I don't understand that is that when we had
this rock star economy, so so of hearing about the
rockstar economy, I've made my views pretty clear on the
rockstar economy, it was happening at roughly the same time
that everybody had a reasonably rock starish economy. Anyway, was
(07:27):
that because we tweak the corporate tax then I don't
think so. But I don't understand any of the stuff
I need to move on. Right, should going or own
two million dollar homes? Of course people think, you know
they shouldn't, but should they?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Mission creep is a real problem for government departments. Take
police for example, By the time the last lot left office,
they were doing half of their callouts on mental health
issues rather than crime. We have to learn as a
country that not everybody can or should do everything. We
need to keep it simple. Focus on the simple and
(08:11):
most important task in front of us. For KO, that
is building and fixing houses for the cops. It's solvent crime.
Everything else is airy, fairy bullshit. Frankly, that seems, if
you look at the state of the books and the
record of delivery, to be a disease that's been caught
by many a civil servant in Wellington. And Bob the
Builder was right today when answering the inevitable questions about
(08:33):
selling off state houses, even though he had already explained
that there would be new ones built, that KAO should
be an agency at its essence, that Kiwi's a proud
of well run, financially responsible, good tenants, good neighbors, people
who appreciate the fortunate position of being given a state
house to live in, and a country and a community
(08:56):
happy to help them through a difficult time. Simple goal,
now to deliver.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
It's a tricky one, isn't it? Because sometimes you look
up and you realize that your house has gone up,
and don't you And I suppose it's possible that you know,
I mean, the two million dollar houses probably weren't always
two million dollar houses. Maybe they've just become two million
(09:21):
dollar houses.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I don't know, news talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And then what where it is really complicated is do
they have lawns? And if they do, who mows them?
Speaker 5 (09:31):
What do you reckon is the best thing to do
to mow your lawns or to get someone to do it?
And I think probably the pendulum has swung back to
more and more people doing their own lawns. You don't
(09:51):
see the big franchises around like you used to. I
think probably for a while there everyone started lawn mowing
round then, and that in fact, they got taken over
and there were franchised rounds and became a big deal.
I think probably the price of that went up, and
people got obsessed with lawns and obsessed with lawn mowers,
and I think probably more and more people do their
own lawn now. So I wondering you in your circumstance
(10:13):
as far as the size of your lawn, as far
as the money, as far as the convenience, do you
pay someone to do it or do you do it
yourself because you enjoy it and like to save the
money by doing it yourself. Because I'd imagine the price
to get a loan done these days.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Is probably.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Not really cheap, and nor should it be, because the
people having to drive to your property to mow your lawns.
Here to pay for the mower and pay for the
guests and the likes of that, so you know they're
providing a service. So I just wander in your sense
where you are on the pendulum. You might be someone
(10:54):
that gets the lawns done commercially because it looks better.
You might be someone that mows the lawns yourself because
it looks better. But these are the angles I want
to explore it up. I wouldn't mind doing a lawn
mowing round. I've often thought it would be quite an
enjoyable way to spend the days. I particularly the pill
(11:14):
that the commission lawnmowing rounds and have those things over
their socks always makes you look quite no nonsense, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I just don't understand these people who enjoy mowing lawns.
I don't get it. To me. It's like one of
those things that you just have to do. I think
I just don't like things that I have to do.
It's like, you know, brushing your teeth, getting a haircut,
(11:42):
stuff like that. It's just time out of your life.
But you could be spending I don't know, melting cheese
on stuff, or you know, watching your Netflix anyway, So
what am I saying? Do pay somebody to do do it?
And I don't like spending money either, something that's chippy.
(12:02):
I'm gonna have to go and think about that. While
I do that, you go on to the rest of
your day and we'll see you back here again tomorrow
for another news.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
US Talk Talk zid bean. For more from Used Talk
zid B, listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk sed B Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for
Wednesday versus Yesterday's News. I am Glen Hart. We are
looking back at Tuesday and we've got a lot of
people pulling sickies at the moment for strange reasons. When
did this start happening or has it always been happening? Well,
(00:48):
should we fiddle with corporate text to try and make
our country more prosperous but.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Falls and against for that?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Should kia or to own two million dollar homes? And
we've got some lawn knowing stuff at the end of
the podcast. But first up, jobs, it's getting hard out there.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Apparently in tough times you need experienced workers, and with
so many experienced workers losing their jobs, saying there's a
whole cohort of older workers floating around. They're taking the
jobs the youngsters used to get, and you can't blame
those older guys. You need to ditch your humility and
concentrate on cash flow to survive in twenty twenty five,
we all need money. I'll take a job this below me.
But the older generation is also fitting the heat. Old
(01:36):
workers are finding it harder and harder too. They may
have the knowledge, but boss is younger than them. Sit
there and wonder how many years have you got left
in you? How many years can you give the company?
The souper is looming, the kids have left home, the
mortgage is paid. You want to go fishing, don't you?
You know what, I might not put my money on you.
It's said that we need to be a meritocracy again.
(01:57):
It's said that these days we need to hire the
best person for the job. Ditch the DEI you know,
the diversity, equity and inclusion. Find the best person for
the job, no matter how old or young they are.
Surely we should be hiring the experience guys, even if
they can only give five years, because they are experienced.
And surely we should be hiring the kids because they
(02:19):
are a great investment. They will pay their way back
to you for the next twenty five years. So here's
the message to middle management. In these tough times, I
go for an old guy or a young guy. Those
guys in the middle I'm not so sure.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I'm absolutely terrified of losing my job because of course
I don't actually have any skills. I don't have any qualifications.
I don't have any skills, and I know that it's
really only a matter of time before they find out
that I don't really do anything here. I mean, look
(02:54):
at me. I'm hosting an imaginary radio show. I mean,
I don't even know if anybody's listening. Are you listening? Hello?
And then I and then you know, the other part
of my job is I just push buttons at random
on the breakfast show and hope that I don't push
(03:16):
the wrong one. Nobody's going to Nobody else is going
to hire me to do that. I don't know how
it happened, but I just try and keep my head
down and hope that nobody notices that I'm here news talk.
Has it been, mind you? I don't call in sick
unless I absolutely have to, and historically, I mean I've
(03:38):
been working for this company for decades now, literally literally
for decades. Really, the only time I've called in sick
is when I busted my shoulders, which unfortunately I've done twice.
I've got two shoulders, you see.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
I'm still I'm so having to think how I feel
about pet leave because you know, I love Pepper.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
She's a good dog. You love Colin. If she got
she had the sniffles, it's uh, you know, she was
feeling abit under the weather.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
I don't even like to say the age of my
dog Colin. I even sometimes kind of trying under I
know exactly as age, but I kind of understay it.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, because I don't want to think about because.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
He's ten now, yeah, and I cannot face losing my
dog Colin. So I reckon I'll take fifty days. Pat's
the cleave when Colin goes.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Down, And I wouldn't blame you.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I think you can probably find a bit of a
a loophole there if you f like net you've called
your dog a name like Colin. In my case, my
dog's name is Jerry. You know, because I think if
you say to your employer, look, Colin has passed away
(04:46):
or as six, I've got to have some time off,
that seems a lot more reasonable than a fido he
might be on his last legs.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I'm going to have to you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It's interesting, isn't it that he's got a dog called Colin,
and there's that program Colin from account which is about
a dog called Colin as well, and he said that
Colin's tenus who he's always been called Colin. So did
the Colin from accounts writers get their idea for calling
a dog Colin? Off Matt Heath, which came first, But
(05:26):
he thaw the egg always asking that question. Now, this
ongoing hand ringing over productivity and tax and trying to
attract foreign investment.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Bloody, bloody blah.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
How do we do that? We do we tweak tax
so on New Zealand companies can do business here more easily.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
So really the key is driving productivity, driving confidence in
our businesses, attracting foreign event investment, all of those things
that Paul Bloxam was talking about. The economist I spoke
to last week on Friday, he said, he of the
rockstar economy phrase, was commenting on the fact that now
(06:21):
we are at the bottom thirty eight out of thirty
eight in terms of performing economies, and he said, we
need to do all the things that we are doing
right now that this coalition government is doing right now.
Attract foreign investment, get the free trade deals going, increase productivity,
limit regulation so businesses can do what they do best.
(06:46):
And then you can afford to lower. Well, I suppose
it's a finely balanced thing. You've got to attract the
foreign investment here, so therefore you've got to make the
corporate tax rate competitive. But when that pie is bigger
and growing, then we are all better off.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
What I don't understand that is that when we had
this rock star economy, so so of hearing about the
rockstar economy, I've made my views pretty clear on the
rockstar economy, it was happening at roughly the same time
that everybody had a reasonably rock starish economy. Anyway, was
(07:27):
that because we tweak the corporate tax then I don't
think so. But I don't understand any of the stuff
I need to move on. Right, should going or own
two million dollar homes? Of course people think, you know
they shouldn't, but should they?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Mission creep is a real problem for government departments. Take
police for example, By the time the last lot left office,
they were doing half of their callouts on mental health
issues rather than crime. We have to learn as a
country that not everybody can or should do everything. We
need to keep it simple. Focus on the simple and
(08:11):
most important task in front of us. For KO, that
is building and fixing houses for the cops. It's solvent crime.
Everything else is airy, fairy bullshit. Frankly, that seems, if
you look at the state of the books and the
record of delivery, to be a disease that's been caught
by many a civil servant in Wellington. And Bob the
Builder was right today when answering the inevitable questions about
(08:33):
selling off state houses, even though he had already explained
that there would be new ones built, that KAO should
be an agency at its essence, that Kiwi's a proud
of well run, financially responsible, good tenants, good neighbors, people
who appreciate the fortunate position of being given a state
house to live in, and a country and a community
(08:56):
happy to help them through a difficult time. Simple goal,
now to deliver.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
It's a tricky one, isn't it? Because sometimes you look
up and you realize that your house has gone up,
and don't you And I suppose it's possible that you know,
I mean, the two million dollar houses probably weren't always
two million dollar houses. Maybe they've just become two million
(09:21):
dollar houses.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I don't know, news talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And then what where it is really complicated is do
they have lawns? And if they do, who mows them?
Speaker 5 (09:31):
What do you reckon is the best thing to do
to mow your lawns or to get someone to do it?
And I think probably the pendulum has swung back to
more and more people doing their own lawns. You don't
(09:51):
see the big franchises around like you used to. I
think probably for a while there everyone started lawn mowing
round then, and that in fact, they got taken over
and there were franchised rounds and became a big deal.
I think probably the price of that went up, and
people got obsessed with lawns and obsessed with lawn mowers,
and I think probably more and more people do their
own lawn now. So I wondering you in your circumstance
(10:13):
as far as the size of your lawn, as far
as the money, as far as the convenience, do you
pay someone to do it or do you do it
yourself because you enjoy it and like to save the
money by doing it yourself. Because I'd imagine the price
to get a loan done these days.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Is probably.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Not really cheap, and nor should it be, because the
people having to drive to your property to mow your lawns.
Here to pay for the mower and pay for the
guests and the likes of that, so you know they're
providing a service. So I just wander in your sense
where you are on the pendulum. You might be someone
(10:54):
that gets the lawns done commercially because it looks better.
You might be someone that mows the lawns yourself because
it looks better. But these are the angles I want
to explore it up. I wouldn't mind doing a lawn
mowing round. I've often thought it would be quite an
enjoyable way to spend the days. I particularly the pill
(11:14):
that the commission lawnmowing rounds and have those things over
their socks always makes you look quite no nonsense, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I just don't understand these people who enjoy mowing lawns.
I don't get it. To me. It's like one of
those things that you just have to do. I think
I just don't like things that I have to do.
It's like, you know, brushing your teeth, getting a haircut,
(11:42):
stuff like that. It's just time out of your life.
But you could be spending I don't know, melting cheese
on stuff, or you know, watching your Netflix anyway, So
what am I saying? Do pay somebody to do do it?
And I don't like spending money either, something that's chippy.
(12:02):
I'm gonna have to go and think about that. While
I do that, you go on to the rest of
your day and we'll see you back here again tomorrow
for another news.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
US Talk Talk zid bean. For more from Used Talk
zid B, listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
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