February 25, 2025 • 11 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Thursday. They are loosening up the
citizens arrest rules. I'm not quite sure exactly what that means,
but I guess you'd better mind your p's and q's
(00:45):
or just Joe Blow next to you is going to
cut you off to prison? Is that what's happing? We're
going to talk about the COVID inquiry. Yeah, COVID, COVID,
remember COVID. No, not ringing any bells. But first up
this whole Andrew Bailey business.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Oh look, it's just politics. Nationals certainly used the departure
of successive labor ministers to point to Labour's a lack
of credentials to govern. They there were a lot of them,
Ian Lee's Galloway and on we went. Stuart Nash MCFARTERI
(01:30):
resigned to go to the Tapatimari. But Kitty Allen, you
know there were a lot of ministers that end whose
careers ended up being in the toilet. So what's good
for the goose is good for the gander and all that.
You know, if National can make hay whilst in opposition,
(01:50):
as Labor ministers came and went, then when they're in
opposition they can do the same. When National ministers are
doing much the same. I really think the whoh about
a couple of days is neither here nor there. I
don't know what the fusses about that. Darlene Tanna was
suspended from Parliament on the fourteenth of March. She was
(02:13):
finally got rid of on the twenty second of October,
all while drawing her parliamentary salary. Two days. I can
live with, not three days. But Andrew Bailey, I'm sorry
did have to go. Parliament has had a history of
being a toxic workplace and you can't have a minister
being a part of that if you want to change
the culture. For those complaining, it's a sign of wokeness
(02:35):
and overreaction. Really, I don't recall anybody saying that when
labor ministers were in strife, and I really don't think
laying hands on staffers is considered acceptable business practice in
this day and age. He had to go and he
has end of story.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But yourself, at the situation of whatever it is that
you're doing, you go to work and during your work
day somebody grabs you by the arm. I don't think
you're going to be highly comfortable about that, are you.
It's trying keep things at perspective. I don't think there's
anything woke about feeling a bit of grief of somebody's
(03:17):
stats rabbing.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
You news talk ziz bean.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I mean, obviously I'm not thinking about professionals forced people
who's gobbe is to grab each other.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
That's piffic.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Am I am I the lone ranger on this?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Andrew dickins, how many times, don't be honest with me?
How many times, in the middle of an intense argument
with a stupid workmate, have you been tempted just to
box their leather ears thump some sense into them? Obviously
you don't. In fact, you know that you can't even
touch them. You can glower and scowl and talk with
a low harsh intensity, but no touchy touchy and no
raised voices. Unfortunately, Andrew Bailey touchy touched and raise his voice.
(03:56):
But what is good about this is that he knew it.
Sometimes you have to hold yourself to account, is what
he said at his press conference when he resigned. What
a great line. Wouldn't you love more people to hold
themselves to account? So I might say that he was
just trying to get urgency and getting things done, but
that's not so. These are uncivil times. We need to
be civil. We need to remember that basic courtesy and
respect for others must exist. If the strength of your
(04:18):
argument is so strong, you will not need to shake
some sense into anyone. And I think the world would
be better if we have people who were not so
inclined to call anyone they disagree with Amron or to
threaten them if they have a different point of view.
Now there are some we know who who are making
political capital out of the gap between Friday's resignation and
Monday's announcement. Personally, I think that's petty. He just spent
(04:40):
a weeknd pulling himself together to face the music, and
when he faced the music and told us that he
was resigning, you could see how close he was to tears.
I think Andrew Bailey acted like a fool with his
staff member, but he acted in his resignation with honor
and the next version of Andrew Bailey will be even better.
He's got a ton of experience. But this leaves a
problem for the National Party. They're running out of experience talents.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, I mean they don't need to be a lot
of experience talent anywhere. Is there is the problem with
the previous labor government, wasn't it? They were running out
of people. He seemed to know what they were doing.
How often do you get in tense arguments with your workmates?
What kind of job have you got?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You talk Sidney the whole.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I mean, not only as Andrew Bailey behave weirdly, but
then he's caused other people to behave weirdly off the
back of this. I don't know if you've heard if
you heard that Mike Hoskins interview with Christopher Luxey yesterday morning,
But basically he spent two and a half minutes trying
to get an answer out of him. But the question
was would he have sacked Andrew Bailey if Andrew Bailey
(05:49):
hadn't resigned? How hard a question is that to answer?
But he never answered it At two and a half
minutes of Mike trying to get him to answer it.
In a whole lot of different ways. Marcus was listening.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
By the way to I went back listened to Christopher
Luxeen with Hosking today. I've got no idea what Luson
was on about. I've got no idea why didn't just
answer the questions. He dug himself into a hole and
kept digging, and there was there was no reason for it.
Short sharp answers on the radio, that's what you want? Yes, no,
thank you, out you go. Goodness me. It was frustrating,
(06:21):
and I'm thinking, well, and I don't think. I don't
think he has been deliberately mischievous or deceiving. It was
just management speak, but flipping and furating to listen to
Goodness anyway.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's his achilles heel, isn't it. Christopher Laxon. It seems
to be bright, seems to be, you know, a no
nonsense sort of a character, and yet he can't get
out of his own way when it comes to that
horrible management speaker. Nobody can stand. He's a slow learner
on that one.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So there's a retail crime policy being announced, and as
part of it, I think everybody's allowed to arrest everybody else.
I think that's what I's thinking is that putting too
much power in your average citizens' hands.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
It's interesting that idea of not letting people into stores
that you think might be dodgy. That that would you know,
that would open up a whole kettle of fish as well.
Wouldn't that be a shop anywhere?
Speaker 7 (07:30):
Mate?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
But no, it is.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
I mean at the Philippines that is the extreme.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
If you look a little bit rough and they don't
like the cut of your jib, sorry you ain't shopping today.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
But they do that at bars, don't they.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Good point. Yeah, you won't be led into a bar
for whatever reason that the bartender wants. So why couldn't
you just be not let into a shop? Yeah, but
profiling people, you know, you can get it wrong. As
you say, upstanding citizens like me that look a bit
dodgy wouldn't be able to go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It's a good point. I mean I always lock psychotic
when I'm walking into the supermarket. That's because I'm just
I just I'm aware of what's about to happen, and
I'm just wishing that it'll it will be over. It'd
be great if you could just sort of block it
(08:17):
all out and then you just come out of the
supermarket and it's all done and you actually have to
experience what it's like in there. There's the joys of
working the hours I do. I'm the chief supermarket shopper
in my house. Cross as we have to bear eh
news talk zi bean Okay, So COVID, come on, you
(08:40):
do so remember COVID. Well, apparently there's a bunch of
people on the COVID Inquiry who don't want to talk
about it anymore.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
Just like everybody else, COVID is a grubby word and
no one likes to use it anymore. In fact, if
you insert the word COVID into a conversation, you'll normally
be met with a grimace or people will just move
away from you quickly because they don't like to talk
about it. Unfortunately, we need to talk about it. This afternoon,
the Royal Commission of and Commission of Inquiry and to
(09:08):
COVID and the government's response to COVID is suffering a
couple of setbacks. The Stuff is reporting this afternoon that
the executive director and two legal counsels at the Royal Sorry,
the COVID Royal Commission of Inquiry have resigned. They have quit.
(09:29):
They haven't said why they've quit, but they've all quit
around the same time, and now serious questions over the
status of the inquiry and the way it has been
run are entering the media the headlines. Brook van Valden
is the Minister in charge of the Department of Internal
Affairs that is in charge of this inquiry, and I
(09:52):
think it is absolutely crucial that they get this right
because the only reason we don't like hearing the word
COVID and thinking about that period of time is because
it was so goddamn awful and the govern I think
went too far in a lot of places it shouldn't have.
(10:15):
If they don't get this inquiry right, if it is
seen to have been quick on process or short on
detail or run over rough shot by politicians, it will
undermine everything it's set out to achieve. It is an
expensive exercise. They must get the COVID Royal Commission of
(10:37):
Inquiry right.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Are they absolutely sure that we can't just repress the
whole thing and forget that it ever happened. I mean,
what are the chances of something like that here they
happen to have again? Jinks Brollian Sorry forget I said anything,
(10:59):
Come back tomorrow and hopefully I'll say something more memorable.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Talk is dorm Said Bean. For more from News Talk
set B listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Thursday. They are loosening up the
citizens arrest rules. I'm not quite sure exactly what that means,
but I guess you'd better mind your p's and q's
(00:45):
or just Joe Blow next to you is going to
cut you off to prison? Is that what's happing? We're
going to talk about the COVID inquiry. Yeah, COVID, COVID,
remember COVID. No, not ringing any bells. But first up
this whole Andrew Bailey business.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Oh look, it's just politics. Nationals certainly used the departure
of successive labor ministers to point to Labour's a lack
of credentials to govern. They there were a lot of them,
Ian Lee's Galloway and on we went. Stuart Nash MCFARTERI
(01:30):
resigned to go to the Tapatimari. But Kitty Allen, you
know there were a lot of ministers that end whose
careers ended up being in the toilet. So what's good
for the goose is good for the gander and all that.
You know, if National can make hay whilst in opposition,
(01:50):
as Labor ministers came and went, then when they're in
opposition they can do the same. When National ministers are
doing much the same. I really think the whoh about
a couple of days is neither here nor there. I
don't know what the fusses about that. Darlene Tanna was
suspended from Parliament on the fourteenth of March. She was
(02:13):
finally got rid of on the twenty second of October,
all while drawing her parliamentary salary. Two days. I can
live with, not three days. But Andrew Bailey, I'm sorry
did have to go. Parliament has had a history of
being a toxic workplace and you can't have a minister
being a part of that if you want to change
the culture. For those complaining, it's a sign of wokeness
(02:35):
and overreaction. Really, I don't recall anybody saying that when
labor ministers were in strife, and I really don't think
laying hands on staffers is considered acceptable business practice in
this day and age. He had to go and he
has end of story.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But yourself, at the situation of whatever it is that
you're doing, you go to work and during your work
day somebody grabs you by the arm. I don't think
you're going to be highly comfortable about that, are you.
It's trying keep things at perspective. I don't think there's
anything woke about feeling a bit of grief of somebody's
(03:17):
stats rabbing.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
You news talk ziz bean.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I mean, obviously I'm not thinking about professionals forced people
who's gobbe is to grab each other.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
That's piffic.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Am I am I the lone ranger on this?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Andrew dickins, how many times, don't be honest with me?
How many times, in the middle of an intense argument
with a stupid workmate, have you been tempted just to
box their leather ears thump some sense into them? Obviously
you don't. In fact, you know that you can't even
touch them. You can glower and scowl and talk with
a low harsh intensity, but no touchy touchy and no
raised voices. Unfortunately, Andrew Bailey touchy touched and raise his voice.
(03:56):
But what is good about this is that he knew it.
Sometimes you have to hold yourself to account, is what
he said at his press conference when he resigned. What
a great line. Wouldn't you love more people to hold
themselves to account? So I might say that he was
just trying to get urgency and getting things done, but
that's not so. These are uncivil times. We need to
be civil. We need to remember that basic courtesy and
respect for others must exist. If the strength of your
(04:18):
argument is so strong, you will not need to shake
some sense into anyone. And I think the world would
be better if we have people who were not so
inclined to call anyone they disagree with Amron or to
threaten them if they have a different point of view.
Now there are some we know who who are making
political capital out of the gap between Friday's resignation and
Monday's announcement. Personally, I think that's petty. He just spent
(04:40):
a weeknd pulling himself together to face the music, and
when he faced the music and told us that he
was resigning, you could see how close he was to tears.
I think Andrew Bailey acted like a fool with his
staff member, but he acted in his resignation with honor
and the next version of Andrew Bailey will be even better.
He's got a ton of experience. But this leaves a
problem for the National Party. They're running out of experience talents.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, I mean they don't need to be a lot
of experience talent anywhere. Is there is the problem with
the previous labor government, wasn't it? They were running out
of people. He seemed to know what they were doing.
How often do you get in tense arguments with your workmates?
What kind of job have you got?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You talk Sidney the whole.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I mean, not only as Andrew Bailey behave weirdly, but
then he's caused other people to behave weirdly off the
back of this. I don't know if you've heard if
you heard that Mike Hoskins interview with Christopher Luxey yesterday morning,
But basically he spent two and a half minutes trying
to get an answer out of him. But the question
was would he have sacked Andrew Bailey if Andrew Bailey
(05:49):
hadn't resigned? How hard a question is that to answer?
But he never answered it At two and a half
minutes of Mike trying to get him to answer it.
In a whole lot of different ways. Marcus was listening.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
By the way to I went back listened to Christopher
Luxeen with Hosking today. I've got no idea what Luson
was on about. I've got no idea why didn't just
answer the questions. He dug himself into a hole and
kept digging, and there was there was no reason for it.
Short sharp answers on the radio, that's what you want? Yes, no,
thank you, out you go. Goodness me. It was frustrating,
(06:21):
and I'm thinking, well, and I don't think. I don't
think he has been deliberately mischievous or deceiving. It was
just management speak, but flipping and furating to listen to
Goodness anyway.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's his achilles heel, isn't it. Christopher Laxon. It seems
to be bright, seems to be, you know, a no
nonsense sort of a character, and yet he can't get
out of his own way when it comes to that
horrible management speaker. Nobody can stand. He's a slow learner
on that one.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So there's a retail crime policy being announced, and as
part of it, I think everybody's allowed to arrest everybody else.
I think that's what I's thinking is that putting too
much power in your average citizens' hands.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
It's interesting that idea of not letting people into stores
that you think might be dodgy. That that would you know,
that would open up a whole kettle of fish as well.
Wouldn't that be a shop anywhere?
Speaker 7 (07:30):
Mate?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
But no, it is.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
I mean at the Philippines that is the extreme.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
If you look a little bit rough and they don't
like the cut of your jib, sorry you ain't shopping today.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
But they do that at bars, don't they.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Good point. Yeah, you won't be led into a bar
for whatever reason that the bartender wants. So why couldn't
you just be not let into a shop? Yeah, but
profiling people, you know, you can get it wrong. As
you say, upstanding citizens like me that look a bit
dodgy wouldn't be able to go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It's a good point. I mean I always lock psychotic
when I'm walking into the supermarket. That's because I'm just
I just I'm aware of what's about to happen, and
I'm just wishing that it'll it will be over. It'd
be great if you could just sort of block it
(08:17):
all out and then you just come out of the
supermarket and it's all done and you actually have to
experience what it's like in there. There's the joys of
working the hours I do. I'm the chief supermarket shopper
in my house. Cross as we have to bear eh
news talk zi bean Okay, So COVID, come on, you
(08:40):
do so remember COVID. Well, apparently there's a bunch of
people on the COVID Inquiry who don't want to talk
about it anymore.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
Just like everybody else, COVID is a grubby word and
no one likes to use it anymore. In fact, if
you insert the word COVID into a conversation, you'll normally
be met with a grimace or people will just move
away from you quickly because they don't like to talk
about it. Unfortunately, we need to talk about it. This afternoon,
the Royal Commission of and Commission of Inquiry and to
(09:08):
COVID and the government's response to COVID is suffering a
couple of setbacks. The Stuff is reporting this afternoon that
the executive director and two legal counsels at the Royal Sorry,
the COVID Royal Commission of Inquiry have resigned. They have quit.
(09:29):
They haven't said why they've quit, but they've all quit
around the same time, and now serious questions over the
status of the inquiry and the way it has been
run are entering the media the headlines. Brook van Valden
is the Minister in charge of the Department of Internal
Affairs that is in charge of this inquiry, and I
(09:52):
think it is absolutely crucial that they get this right
because the only reason we don't like hearing the word
COVID and thinking about that period of time is because
it was so goddamn awful and the govern I think
went too far in a lot of places it shouldn't have.
(10:15):
If they don't get this inquiry right, if it is
seen to have been quick on process or short on
detail or run over rough shot by politicians, it will
undermine everything it's set out to achieve. It is an
expensive exercise. They must get the COVID Royal Commission of
(10:37):
Inquiry right.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Are they absolutely sure that we can't just repress the
whole thing and forget that it ever happened. I mean,
what are the chances of something like that here they
happen to have again? Jinks Brollian Sorry forget I said anything,
(10:59):
Come back tomorrow and hopefully I'll say something more memorable.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Talk is dorm Said Bean. For more from News Talk
set B listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
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