March 4, 2025 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) Things Won't Be Fixed Overnight/Let's Talk School Lunches. Again. And Again. And Again/Having Kids Is So Overrated
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Tuesday. Somehow we're still talking about
the school lunches. I want this to end.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Please?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Can we stop this? Should we be having larger families
given our declining birth rate? Before any of that a
big health announcement from the government. I think they've decided
that if we can get a prescription in the middle
of the night, everything will be better. Is that how
(00:59):
it works?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
So here's a question for you. How did we manage
to bring in so many people to this country and
get fail to have enough doctors when we get there?
This is the question all asked every surge of immigration
we've ever had. There's been many surges of immigration. I'm one.
I came out in nineteen sixty five with my English
father and my Kiwi mum. There's been many more waves.
We've had millions of people arrive in this country. Have
(01:21):
we had thousands of doctors arrive and start practicing as well. No,
we have not. Every time we've opened the door, there
seems to have been an attitude that will take the
immigrant's labor, we'll take their money, we'll take all the advantages,
but ignore the consequences of a bigger population. So Simeon
Brown's announcement of a faster tract to qualifying overseas doctors
who come here is welcome and about time, because our
(01:43):
immigration booms have distorted our society. It swamped our motorways,
it puts strain on housing and infrastructure, and it crushed
our service sector, including doctors. Yet all the money and
all the labor made people think we had a rock
star economy, but that was artificial. If the economy is
a rock star, how come you can't see a doctor.
(02:05):
If you can't see a doctor, is it really rocking?
So congratulations to Simeon and congratulations to the government for
putting some money in because we need them. And finally
we seem to be realizing that if we bring in
more people, we need to look at the whole picture.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, so can we make a rule that, like how
many doctors per person do we need? And then if
you're like the say you need like one doctor per
hundred people, every hundredth immigrant has to bring a doctor
with them, just an idea. So yeah, if they'll have
(02:46):
to find a doctor wherever they are and bring bring
them with them, I can't see why that wouldn't work.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Used talk zip bean.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's those sorts of stupid ideas which aren't helpful to
this conversation. Kirie would them probably has a lot more
helpful opinion.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
There are people who get terrible diseases and they want
to be cured because to a certain extent, the health
system is a victim of its own good marketing gets it.
We can fix you. I mean, where do we even
begin when so much of it and it comes back
to so much of what we talk about over so
(03:28):
many topics comes back to responsibility, doesn't it your own
individual responsibility for your own health. You can't spend a
lifetime abusing your body and then going to a doctor
or a health system and saying fix me, fix me,
and one fifteen minute appointment after a lifetime, an adult
(03:52):
lifetime of abuse, fix me. I've suddenly decided I want
to live well? Well, you know it's on you. There
are things beyond our control. Accidents happen horrible, pernicious diseases
appear out of nowhere, and that's what the hell system
(04:13):
should be for, not for people who could prevent a
lot of what is putting them into hospital or what
a lot of people are presenting to the GP with.
I'd love to know from GPS how many people who
turn up could actually fix themselves, or could have fixed
themselves before they'd present it.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I'm feeling quite guilty now. I feel like Kerry was
talking to me specifically just then. As you know, I've
got several containers of peals that seem to be keeping
me alive at the moment, and probably most of the
stuff that they're doing is to counteract damage I've done
to myself, my secret service station, piers, etc. I'll consider
(04:59):
myself told. I mean, I'm not sure if there's much
I can do about it now, but I've got a
more economical car now, so I'm literally going to the
city station half as much as I used to. That
might help talk. Now, is it possible that school lunches
might be part of the solution, the health solution, and
(05:23):
indeed the economy solution. Healthy lunch that parents don't have
to pay for. It's a win win, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
It's not about where the parents provide lunch. You've decided
you support the lunch scheme that's to give all the
kids that meal, because you don't want to just shame
and just give it to some kids. So yeah, I
(05:55):
can't work it out. I can't work out why I'd
say that. And of course too, I mean, the whole
thing it's all about because one on four children are
in poverty. These are the children from working families. Because
of the cost of accommodation, et cetera. Kids are hungry.
(06:16):
But I mean, I'm loath to mention it because so
often the discussion gets railroad into different kind of judgmental avenues.
But you know, if you're going to pay a company
to do something, if you're going to pay them one
hundreds of million dollars to provide lunches, they've got to
provide lunches that are fit to eat. Otherwise it's just
a total waste of taxpayers money. And I can't work
(06:39):
out why. He then go on about marmite sandwich.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Is yeah, So that's Margus responding to like some repeatedly
suggesting that parents just sneak their wax and marmite sandwiches
and an apples in the kids bags. It's all very
well at this time of the year when apples are
in season. They get pretty expensive at the other end
of the year. And also nobody really likes ma'might do they?
(07:04):
Although I was alarmed to discover that that you might
have significantly more fence in a marmite. So the unfortunately
I've i'm in my privilege oisted ivory tower, just wearing
vegimital over everything when you know some people can only
afford marmite. Full bastards. Let's see if we can figure
(07:26):
out where the Ryan Bredge is marmite or vegiemo de cinda.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
A Dune's press release from twenty nineteen announcing the trial
said quote, you simply can't learn on an empty stomach.
Now does a childhood turns their nose up at butter,
checken or Pitipit sound really hungry to you. If you're hungry,
don't you eat free food. The reason adults is, especially
(07:49):
those of an older generation who grew up on meat
and three veg with no source, get so riled up
about this is the waste. Back in the day, you
didn't throw food away waste, not what not. So if
the food is being wasted and not eaten, the answer
must be to simply stop providing it universe to all students.
(08:10):
There must, of course be an option for kids who
need to be fed to get a free lunch. I
think we can all agree on that no one wants
to see a kid go hungry, but universally funding all
students within targeted schools is clearly not working. Remember this
money originally came half a billion dollars from the COVID
(08:32):
Relief Fund. The government still has this program on time
limited funding, and Nicola Willis told me on the show
last night that a decision will be made at the
end of this funding about its future. That future should
include cutting the program back to basics, so only kids
who actually need a free lunch are given one.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
We make a call once before whether we're going to
say Peter or pepper. Is that something that can be
taught in schools, like when they're handing out the peta
pitt The nobody says, do they except.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Ryan Bridge apparently News Talk Ze Bean.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
We're going to finish up by having more kids, because
otherwise we're going to hell in a handcart.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Karen Colklan in his Oscar speech, he said to his wife,
we can have four now because you promised if I
got an Oscar, you'd have another kid with me. And
it just got me thinking when I heard that. Ford
didn't used to be considered a big family, but now
that seems like a big family I was from. Four
didn't seem that big back when I was growing up
in the eighties, but it's considered massive now. So one
(09:41):
hundred and eighty ten eighty are you from a big
family or are you trying to run a big family?
This texture on nine two nine two says any family
with more than four kids nowadays, if you can't afford
to bring them up and afford them, their benefits should
cease as I am paying for them. Okay, well it's
kind of slightly off topic there. Yeah, well we do.
Speaker 8 (10:01):
You know, there is the argument made we need people
having more babies. You know, we're in a world of
trouble if that continues to go down. The birth rate,
and as we mentioned a bit earlier, the average Kiwi
woman in nineteen sixties had four children. That is now
down to one point five. So the danger territory is
one point two If we get to one point two,
(10:24):
then it is in danger territory.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Well, Japan has entered an era of fully fledged population
decline if current trends remain and we're not far above them.
If current trends remain unchanged, the nation's population is expected
to decline by about half in the next sixty years.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, I don't know. Less crowds, less cues sounds good
to me. Love it, a bit of open space, a
little bit of solo time. Both kids were out of
the house yesterday when I got home and work brilliant.
If I could just get them to move out permanently,
(11:02):
it'd be great. I am been hat that has been
news to us. They've been If there's enough of you,
come back and end of marrow.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
This US Talk is Talking zid bean. For more from
news Talk zied B. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk sed Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Tuesday. Somehow we're still talking about
the school lunches. I want this to end.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Please?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Can we stop this? Should we be having larger families
given our declining birth rate? Before any of that a
big health announcement from the government. I think they've decided
that if we can get a prescription in the middle
of the night, everything will be better. Is that how
(00:59):
it works?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
So here's a question for you. How did we manage
to bring in so many people to this country and
get fail to have enough doctors when we get there?
This is the question all asked every surge of immigration
we've ever had. There's been many surges of immigration. I'm one.
I came out in nineteen sixty five with my English
father and my Kiwi mum. There's been many more waves.
We've had millions of people arrive in this country. Have
(01:21):
we had thousands of doctors arrive and start practicing as well. No,
we have not. Every time we've opened the door, there
seems to have been an attitude that will take the
immigrant's labor, we'll take their money, we'll take all the advantages,
but ignore the consequences of a bigger population. So Simeon
Brown's announcement of a faster tract to qualifying overseas doctors
who come here is welcome and about time, because our
(01:43):
immigration booms have distorted our society. It swamped our motorways,
it puts strain on housing and infrastructure, and it crushed
our service sector, including doctors. Yet all the money and
all the labor made people think we had a rock
star economy, but that was artificial. If the economy is
a rock star, how come you can't see a doctor.
(02:05):
If you can't see a doctor, is it really rocking?
So congratulations to Simeon and congratulations to the government for
putting some money in because we need them. And finally
we seem to be realizing that if we bring in
more people, we need to look at the whole picture.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, so can we make a rule that, like how
many doctors per person do we need? And then if
you're like the say you need like one doctor per
hundred people, every hundredth immigrant has to bring a doctor
with them, just an idea. So yeah, if they'll have
(02:46):
to find a doctor wherever they are and bring bring
them with them, I can't see why that wouldn't work.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Used talk zip bean.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's those sorts of stupid ideas which aren't helpful to
this conversation. Kirie would them probably has a lot more
helpful opinion.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
There are people who get terrible diseases and they want
to be cured because to a certain extent, the health
system is a victim of its own good marketing gets it.
We can fix you. I mean, where do we even
begin when so much of it and it comes back
to so much of what we talk about over so
(03:28):
many topics comes back to responsibility, doesn't it your own
individual responsibility for your own health. You can't spend a
lifetime abusing your body and then going to a doctor
or a health system and saying fix me, fix me,
and one fifteen minute appointment after a lifetime, an adult
(03:52):
lifetime of abuse, fix me. I've suddenly decided I want
to live well? Well, you know it's on you. There
are things beyond our control. Accidents happen horrible, pernicious diseases
appear out of nowhere, and that's what the hell system
(04:13):
should be for, not for people who could prevent a
lot of what is putting them into hospital or what
a lot of people are presenting to the GP with.
I'd love to know from GPS how many people who
turn up could actually fix themselves, or could have fixed
themselves before they'd present it.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I'm feeling quite guilty now. I feel like Kerry was
talking to me specifically just then. As you know, I've
got several containers of peals that seem to be keeping
me alive at the moment, and probably most of the
stuff that they're doing is to counteract damage I've done
to myself, my secret service station, piers, etc. I'll consider
(04:59):
myself told. I mean, I'm not sure if there's much
I can do about it now, but I've got a
more economical car now, so I'm literally going to the
city station half as much as I used to. That
might help talk. Now, is it possible that school lunches
might be part of the solution, the health solution, and
(05:23):
indeed the economy solution. Healthy lunch that parents don't have
to pay for. It's a win win, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
It's not about where the parents provide lunch. You've decided
you support the lunch scheme that's to give all the
kids that meal, because you don't want to just shame
and just give it to some kids. So yeah, I
(05:55):
can't work it out. I can't work out why I'd
say that. And of course too, I mean, the whole
thing it's all about because one on four children are
in poverty. These are the children from working families. Because
of the cost of accommodation, et cetera. Kids are hungry.
(06:16):
But I mean, I'm loath to mention it because so
often the discussion gets railroad into different kind of judgmental avenues.
But you know, if you're going to pay a company
to do something, if you're going to pay them one
hundreds of million dollars to provide lunches, they've got to
provide lunches that are fit to eat. Otherwise it's just
a total waste of taxpayers money. And I can't work
(06:39):
out why. He then go on about marmite sandwich.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Is yeah, So that's Margus responding to like some repeatedly
suggesting that parents just sneak their wax and marmite sandwiches
and an apples in the kids bags. It's all very
well at this time of the year when apples are
in season. They get pretty expensive at the other end
of the year. And also nobody really likes ma'might do they?
(07:04):
Although I was alarmed to discover that that you might
have significantly more fence in a marmite. So the unfortunately
I've i'm in my privilege oisted ivory tower, just wearing
vegimital over everything when you know some people can only
afford marmite. Full bastards. Let's see if we can figure
(07:26):
out where the Ryan Bredge is marmite or vegiemo de cinda.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
A Dune's press release from twenty nineteen announcing the trial
said quote, you simply can't learn on an empty stomach.
Now does a childhood turns their nose up at butter,
checken or Pitipit sound really hungry to you. If you're hungry,
don't you eat free food. The reason adults is, especially
(07:49):
those of an older generation who grew up on meat
and three veg with no source, get so riled up
about this is the waste. Back in the day, you
didn't throw food away waste, not what not. So if
the food is being wasted and not eaten, the answer
must be to simply stop providing it universe to all students.
(08:10):
There must, of course be an option for kids who
need to be fed to get a free lunch. I
think we can all agree on that no one wants
to see a kid go hungry, but universally funding all
students within targeted schools is clearly not working. Remember this
money originally came half a billion dollars from the COVID
(08:32):
Relief Fund. The government still has this program on time
limited funding, and Nicola Willis told me on the show
last night that a decision will be made at the
end of this funding about its future. That future should
include cutting the program back to basics, so only kids
who actually need a free lunch are given one.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
We make a call once before whether we're going to
say Peter or pepper. Is that something that can be
taught in schools, like when they're handing out the peta
pitt The nobody says, do they except.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Ryan Bridge apparently News Talk Ze Bean.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
We're going to finish up by having more kids, because
otherwise we're going to hell in a handcart.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Karen Colklan in his Oscar speech, he said to his wife,
we can have four now because you promised if I
got an Oscar, you'd have another kid with me. And
it just got me thinking when I heard that. Ford
didn't used to be considered a big family, but now
that seems like a big family I was from. Four
didn't seem that big back when I was growing up
in the eighties, but it's considered massive now. So one
(09:41):
hundred and eighty ten eighty are you from a big
family or are you trying to run a big family?
This texture on nine two nine two says any family
with more than four kids nowadays, if you can't afford
to bring them up and afford them, their benefits should
cease as I am paying for them. Okay, well it's
kind of slightly off topic there. Yeah, well we do.
Speaker 8 (10:01):
You know, there is the argument made we need people
having more babies. You know, we're in a world of
trouble if that continues to go down. The birth rate,
and as we mentioned a bit earlier, the average Kiwi
woman in nineteen sixties had four children. That is now
down to one point five. So the danger territory is
one point two If we get to one point two,
(10:24):
then it is in danger territory.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Well, Japan has entered an era of fully fledged population
decline if current trends remain and we're not far above them.
If current trends remain unchanged, the nation's population is expected
to decline by about half in the next sixty years.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, I don't know. Less crowds, less cues sounds good
to me. Love it, a bit of open space, a
little bit of solo time. Both kids were out of
the house yesterday when I got home and work brilliant.
If I could just get them to move out permanently,
(11:02):
it'd be great. I am been hat that has been
news to us. They've been If there's enough of you,
come back and end of marrow.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
This US Talk is Talking zid bean. For more from
news Talk zied B. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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