March 24, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) What Exactly Happened with GST?/Other Numbers That Are Up/What Do Councils Actually Do?/All That Tyre Talk/On or In?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am green Hart, and we
are looking back and Monday. We've got a bit of
wash up the GDP for the last week.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
What do you?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I wrote a who a counselor tells the truth? Just refreshing.
Marcus tries to understand if one and and Tyler really
dig down into why you say on sometimes and other times,
(00:59):
so I know you'll be hanging around for that at
the end of the podcast. But first up, the U
n S is GST is not very fair. It's going
on here.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
We're getting up early, we're going to work, we're doing
our bit, and they were squandering tax money, just burning
it at a rate of knots with very little to
show for it. You're always going to get people who
say no, the government is spending money on projects I
(01:29):
don't agree with. I don't want my tax going to that.
But I think the last government, the last labor government,
rarely took it to the nth degree and that's when
you start resenting paying taxes. You don't want that in
a society. Can you tax your way to affair a society?
I really don't think you can. You can certainly create
(01:54):
an environment where those who cannot work, who need assistance
get it. You can create an environment where it's easier
for people to do business, to get work, for businesses
to do well. I think the more you make it
(02:19):
complicated and try and write iniquities, the more room there
is to evade tax, to avoid paying it all together.
I'd love to get your thoughts on this GST. Most
countries have it because it is a way of addressing
(02:39):
the black economy. Is that enough justification to maintain it?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I vaguely remember it coming in and it was going
to be the end of the world, and you know,
and then it came in and was it twelve and
a half percent or was it only ten percent? When
it see how you just forget and then slowly it
creeps up and up, and of course you don't complain
(03:09):
about it quite so much when it just goes up
from what it was, because you know, things just go up,
don't they. It's interesting something, it is something to think about.
Still that away in the back of your mind. Next
time the government says, oh, it'll be fine, you'll hardly even.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Notice news talk Zi been.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
While the GDP, as we learned last week, is creeping
up enough. Andrew must have been thinking about this while
he was out tramping last week.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
And we got some tax cuts, which was that the
right thing to do at the right time. Ran O'Sullivan
six weeks ago described the tax cuts as badly timed.
It meant we weren't paying back debt. We're still struggling
just to pay the interests. So, as Paul Waxham has
now described, we had an excessive pandemic reaction followed by
(03:57):
an excessive inflation reaction. Now, all the stuff that all
the parties did is technically correct in macroeconomics, and this
is easy to criticize the twenty twenty hindsight, but it
has been as though the left hand and the right
hand doesn't know what each other are doing, which means
it was tough, which means now our recovery will be slow.
(04:19):
All the parties claim they are the prudent fiscal managers,
and all reserve bank governors claim the same. But if
you look back over the past five years, that's simply
not been true. They've been working against each other and
we did it hard. And the reason I mentioned all
of this is because we need to learn from this
unless we want to keep on reeling from boom to
(04:41):
bust over and over again.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I think that is what we do want to happen,
because otherwise, why would it keep happening. It's been happening
for a very long time now, and I think we've
all just decided that that's what we're like us talk
sid so our local body elections this year. What an
exciting time to be alive. But there's a counselor in
(05:05):
Rhoderua who's caught Ryan's attention because she's not standing this yet.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
This is her exact quote. I have so far failed
to achieve anything meaningful for my people during my time
on council. I believe my time and efforts would be
best placed elsewhere. I know how shockingly refreshing. And there's
plenty more from the honesty box from counselor Kittiopa. She
(05:31):
had a specific goal in mind when she ran for counsel.
This was around housing for her farno and her EWE
and she was asked about this, and this is what
she was quoted as saying, quote I failed spectacularly end quote. Brilliant,
absolutely brilliant. Too often people in power, particularly local government,
(05:53):
have no idea how shite they are at their job.
This is a counselor who knows she's no good, but
instead of sucking at something and continuing to do it
for another twenty years, Larni Kittyopa has hit us with
the honesty stick and I like the feeling. Same refreshing
honesty from Mark Sainsbury a few weeks back. You might
(06:15):
remember that there was talk he was going to run
for mayor of Wellington and Nick Mills asks him, are
you going to run for mayor? He responds again, I'd
quote the guy if I thought I could help Wellington,
if I genuinely thought that, I'd do it in a nanosecond.
I've never run a business. I've never run a large organization.
As much as I love the idea of it, and
(06:37):
I probably would love to do it. You've got to
be honest with yourself about what your skills are. Sainso
add honest and top bloke to your CV. Just today,
the commissioner appointed to babysit Wellington City Council. He comes out,
he reckons we need an overhaul of the Local Government
Act quote in relation to the qualification for and capability
(07:02):
to hold office. In other words, make it harder for
twits to run for council. We'll have more on that
after five. But none of this would be necessary if
we had more brave souls like Laranni Kittioppa, who, in
standing down, has demonstrated more character, more promise, and more
(07:23):
potential than all those underachievers around her who refuse to
admit the truth there crap.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yes, So I think this is what I've been calling
for for a while now. If nobody stands for any
of these councils anywhere, can we just get rid of
them all? Or should it be like Jerry Dudy where
you just have a rotation of citizens who have to
(07:54):
have to be on the council for at least one meeting. Anyway, right,
of course, we're all trying to learn how if one works.
Now that we've got a new Zealander trying to do it,
I think he's.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Going to learn a few things as well.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It really have given a results so far, Marcus, He's
really trying to get to grips with it. But I
don't know that he is.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
By the way, the hype got the better of me.
I did watch the Grand Prix last night.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
It was.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Gee.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
They they go on a lot about the tires, don't
they hard tires, medium tires, cheap as creepers. It's all
about the tires, about the tires, and how hot, how
hot it is? Well, temperatures dropped eight degree since they've
been racing. Man, all those people in alongline looking at
their screens. I don't know what they're doing. Look at
(08:48):
the tires.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I guess, yeah, it's weird how they don't last. They
certainly don't last. Jan If you if you had to
change your tires every couple of hundred of k's, did
they even make it that back? Think of it? Tulous
(09:10):
Alpha mats, casually tires. I think this is top of
mind for me because cas is one of our cars
given for as suit as a specially massive guys. Because
of the change your tires for a long time, that's
going to be pricing, probably not surprising as its own
tires news talk has it been actually speaking of cars?
(09:39):
They must have been speaking of cars day afternoon with
Mett and Tyler because somebody asked this question.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
Secondary question, just come through on nine two nine two.
How come you can be on a bus but not
on a car?
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Oh, good question.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
These are the deep questions that get you get on
a train. Yeah, you get on a bus, you get
in the car, you get on a bike. What else
you get on a plane?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
The other plane?
Speaker 7 (10:03):
You only yeah, you get You're not on a car.
You're in a car board. A scooter is the only
thing you get in in a car. You only get
into a car. You're in a house unless you're on it.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Yeah, so in a house, but that doesn't move. If
you see you're on a house.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
You're in a caravan.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
You're in a caravan.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
So that's something we'll get to the bottom of us.
That's a key question on top of the other question.
This is really really messing with my mind here. Just
someone sent a text. It's really to raph the conversation
that you get on a bus and you get on
a train, but you get in a car. This person says,
you're on death row, but.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
You're in prison.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Man. This is deep.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
I think generally speaking that anything you walk into because
you get on a plane, in a plane. But if
it's small plane, would you get in a plane, you
will still be on it. If you climb straight into
a seat, it's incaus you get into a carriage.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
I'm in the plane right now.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
But if there's something you can walk around on to
find your seat, then it's you get on. Yeah, that
makes sense.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I think.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
I think it's as good as we've got so far.
We're still going to do some digging on this.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
Yeah, but that doesn't quite work for your on death row.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Yeah, but you're in prison.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
You get on a boat, you you get on a bus, train, boat,
because you literally walk on, says this text. You don't
step into a car. That's that's that's a that's a
good point, all right.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So I assume they spent the entire show. I'm going
to figure that out. I'm glad they did. In the end.
It's going to stay with you now, isn't it for
the rest of the day. Sorry, I feel like I
feel passionly responsible now. I wonder if i'll continue it's
(11:40):
a little bit more on it or in it. That's
afternoon anyway, I'll be back with more tomorrow. Thanks for
being in my podcast.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
I was on it us, Talking Talking zid Bean.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
For more from News Talk said B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk sid B Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am green Hart, and we
are looking back and Monday. We've got a bit of
wash up the GDP for the last week.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
What do you?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I wrote a who a counselor tells the truth? Just refreshing.
Marcus tries to understand if one and and Tyler really
dig down into why you say on sometimes and other times,
(00:59):
so I know you'll be hanging around for that at
the end of the podcast. But first up, the U
n S is GST is not very fair. It's going
on here.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
We're getting up early, we're going to work, we're doing
our bit, and they were squandering tax money, just burning
it at a rate of knots with very little to
show for it. You're always going to get people who
say no, the government is spending money on projects I
(01:29):
don't agree with. I don't want my tax going to that.
But I think the last government, the last labor government,
rarely took it to the nth degree and that's when
you start resenting paying taxes. You don't want that in
a society. Can you tax your way to affair a society?
I really don't think you can. You can certainly create
(01:54):
an environment where those who cannot work, who need assistance
get it. You can create an environment where it's easier
for people to do business, to get work, for businesses
to do well. I think the more you make it
(02:19):
complicated and try and write iniquities, the more room there
is to evade tax, to avoid paying it all together.
I'd love to get your thoughts on this GST. Most
countries have it because it is a way of addressing
(02:39):
the black economy. Is that enough justification to maintain it?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I vaguely remember it coming in and it was going
to be the end of the world, and you know,
and then it came in and was it twelve and
a half percent or was it only ten percent? When
it see how you just forget and then slowly it
creeps up and up, and of course you don't complain
(03:09):
about it quite so much when it just goes up
from what it was, because you know, things just go up,
don't they. It's interesting something, it is something to think about.
Still that away in the back of your mind. Next
time the government says, oh, it'll be fine, you'll hardly even.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Notice news talk Zi been.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
While the GDP, as we learned last week, is creeping
up enough. Andrew must have been thinking about this while
he was out tramping last week.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
And we got some tax cuts, which was that the
right thing to do at the right time. Ran O'Sullivan
six weeks ago described the tax cuts as badly timed.
It meant we weren't paying back debt. We're still struggling
just to pay the interests. So, as Paul Waxham has
now described, we had an excessive pandemic reaction followed by
(03:57):
an excessive inflation reaction. Now, all the stuff that all
the parties did is technically correct in macroeconomics, and this
is easy to criticize the twenty twenty hindsight, but it
has been as though the left hand and the right
hand doesn't know what each other are doing, which means
it was tough, which means now our recovery will be slow.
(04:19):
All the parties claim they are the prudent fiscal managers,
and all reserve bank governors claim the same. But if
you look back over the past five years, that's simply
not been true. They've been working against each other and
we did it hard. And the reason I mentioned all
of this is because we need to learn from this
unless we want to keep on reeling from boom to
(04:41):
bust over and over again.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I think that is what we do want to happen,
because otherwise, why would it keep happening. It's been happening
for a very long time now, and I think we've
all just decided that that's what we're like us talk
sid so our local body elections this year. What an
exciting time to be alive. But there's a counselor in
(05:05):
Rhoderua who's caught Ryan's attention because she's not standing this yet.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
This is her exact quote. I have so far failed
to achieve anything meaningful for my people during my time
on council. I believe my time and efforts would be
best placed elsewhere. I know how shockingly refreshing. And there's
plenty more from the honesty box from counselor Kittiopa. She
(05:31):
had a specific goal in mind when she ran for counsel.
This was around housing for her farno and her EWE
and she was asked about this, and this is what
she was quoted as saying, quote I failed spectacularly end quote. Brilliant,
absolutely brilliant. Too often people in power, particularly local government,
(05:53):
have no idea how shite they are at their job.
This is a counselor who knows she's no good, but
instead of sucking at something and continuing to do it
for another twenty years, Larni Kittyopa has hit us with
the honesty stick and I like the feeling. Same refreshing
honesty from Mark Sainsbury a few weeks back. You might
(06:15):
remember that there was talk he was going to run
for mayor of Wellington and Nick Mills asks him, are
you going to run for mayor? He responds again, I'd
quote the guy if I thought I could help Wellington,
if I genuinely thought that, I'd do it in a nanosecond.
I've never run a business. I've never run a large organization.
As much as I love the idea of it, and
(06:37):
I probably would love to do it. You've got to
be honest with yourself about what your skills are. Sainso
add honest and top bloke to your CV. Just today,
the commissioner appointed to babysit Wellington City Council. He comes out,
he reckons we need an overhaul of the Local Government
Act quote in relation to the qualification for and capability
(07:02):
to hold office. In other words, make it harder for
twits to run for council. We'll have more on that
after five. But none of this would be necessary if
we had more brave souls like Laranni Kittioppa, who, in
standing down, has demonstrated more character, more promise, and more
(07:23):
potential than all those underachievers around her who refuse to
admit the truth there crap.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yes, So I think this is what I've been calling
for for a while now. If nobody stands for any
of these councils anywhere, can we just get rid of
them all? Or should it be like Jerry Dudy where
you just have a rotation of citizens who have to
(07:54):
have to be on the council for at least one meeting. Anyway, right,
of course, we're all trying to learn how if one works.
Now that we've got a new Zealander trying to do it,
I think he's.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Going to learn a few things as well.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It really have given a results so far, Marcus, He's
really trying to get to grips with it. But I
don't know that he is.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
By the way, the hype got the better of me.
I did watch the Grand Prix last night.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
It was.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Gee.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
They they go on a lot about the tires, don't
they hard tires, medium tires, cheap as creepers. It's all
about the tires, about the tires, and how hot, how
hot it is? Well, temperatures dropped eight degree since they've
been racing. Man, all those people in alongline looking at
their screens. I don't know what they're doing. Look at
(08:48):
the tires.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I guess, yeah, it's weird how they don't last. They
certainly don't last. Jan If you if you had to
change your tires every couple of hundred of k's, did
they even make it that back? Think of it? Tulous
(09:10):
Alpha mats, casually tires. I think this is top of
mind for me because cas is one of our cars
given for as suit as a specially massive guys. Because
of the change your tires for a long time, that's
going to be pricing, probably not surprising as its own
tires news talk has it been actually speaking of cars?
(09:39):
They must have been speaking of cars day afternoon with
Mett and Tyler because somebody asked this question.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
Secondary question, just come through on nine two nine two.
How come you can be on a bus but not
on a car?
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Oh, good question.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
These are the deep questions that get you get on
a train. Yeah, you get on a bus, you get
in the car, you get on a bike. What else
you get on a plane?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
The other plane?
Speaker 7 (10:03):
You only yeah, you get You're not on a car.
You're in a car board. A scooter is the only
thing you get in in a car. You only get
into a car. You're in a house unless you're on it.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Yeah, so in a house, but that doesn't move. If
you see you're on a house.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
You're in a caravan.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
You're in a caravan.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
So that's something we'll get to the bottom of us.
That's a key question on top of the other question.
This is really really messing with my mind here. Just
someone sent a text. It's really to raph the conversation
that you get on a bus and you get on
a train, but you get in a car. This person says,
you're on death row, but.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
You're in prison.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Man. This is deep.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
I think generally speaking that anything you walk into because
you get on a plane, in a plane. But if
it's small plane, would you get in a plane, you
will still be on it. If you climb straight into
a seat, it's incaus you get into a carriage.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
I'm in the plane right now.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
But if there's something you can walk around on to
find your seat, then it's you get on. Yeah, that
makes sense.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I think.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
I think it's as good as we've got so far.
We're still going to do some digging on this.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
Yeah, but that doesn't quite work for your on death row.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Yeah, but you're in prison.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
You get on a boat, you you get on a bus, train, boat,
because you literally walk on, says this text. You don't
step into a car. That's that's that's a that's a
good point, all right.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So I assume they spent the entire show. I'm going
to figure that out. I'm glad they did. In the end.
It's going to stay with you now, isn't it for
the rest of the day. Sorry, I feel like I
feel passionly responsible now. I wonder if i'll continue it's
(11:40):
a little bit more on it or in it. That's
afternoon anyway, I'll be back with more tomorrow. Thanks for
being in my podcast.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
I was on it us, Talking Talking zid Bean.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
For more from News Talk said B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio
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