March 25, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) Sorry, You've Been Deleted/Finding Reasons Not to Do Things/Lost Doctors/How Was Your Trip?/The Old Stadium Thing Again
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Tuesday. We need to discuss that
we're both changes to the RMA, because they're always proposing
changes to the r aren't they. Apparently the RMA is
(00:45):
still not working, so they want to try and get
it working so we can do stuff that we still
don't have enough doctors, or do have enough doctors, or
we keep training doctors and they keep leaving the country.
We try to get to the bottom of that. When
work trips go bad, Man and Tyler will be talking
(01:07):
about that, talk about the cyclical nature of news. Once again,
we're talking about stadium's stadia and Auckland hasn't got a
proper stadium before any of that. Dude, where's my electorate? O'
(01:29):
harry is no more in Wellington.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
They had to delete one from the North Island due
to the population changes. Basically, there are quotas that must
be met in order to have a certain number of electorates,
and there are fewer people living in the Lower North
Island of New Zealand, and you've got to keep things equal.
The Lower North Island population is below the target quota,
(01:54):
which is actually true of Auckland as well. But what
they've done is taken into account population growth projected population growth.
So while Wellington is below quota and Auckland is below quota,
they've gone well Auckland is going to increase, whereas Wellington's
population is expected to decrease. So lots of movement on
the boundaries, too many to list. But the wain thing
(02:15):
you need to take away from today is that a
Harru is gone and that means that Greg O'Connor, Labor MP,
is gone. Why because he went electorate only. Remember last time,
last election he said he would quit if he didn't
hold on to his electorate seat. Now the seat is gone. Therefore,
(02:37):
ipso facto, so is Greg O'Connor.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's weird to find that you've been deleted, isn't it.
It's a bit like so. I live in Rodney and
sometimes it's called Rodney and sometimes it isn't. It might
be Funga Perah. These days I actually have no idea
what my electorate is called. I think it's stilled the
(03:05):
Rodney Ward on the super City. Even know where I
live actually now that I think of it, so yeah,
I can identify with the people of Hurry. You who
are no longer other har are you? You better find
out where you are for the next election, otherwise you'll cease.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
To exist news talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I'm not sure how big an issue AREMA.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
The form will.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Before you come with the election next year.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I can't believe it isn't.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Change this three year terms. Think it's particular anyway that's
neither here nor there. What can be done to fix
all the red tape?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I think David Parker was here to be able to
even take on the job of trying to wrestle the
RMA into submission is a phenomenal task, and I think
David Parker did a pretty good job of attempting to
do that, to the extent that the coalition government will
use some of that work and build on it. But
(04:06):
I would love to hear from you if you have
been held up held to ransom by the ROMA and
whether you believe that this is going to set us
on the right track in terms of being able to
(04:27):
get on with business, do what you have to do,
but without unnecessary time constraints and without the added extra expenses.
There were so many examples given of how the RM
is ludicrous, and yet at the same time there is
a need to have legislation to protect the environment from
(04:48):
the predations of a moral people who would advance their
own interests without a second thought to the environment around them,
all the community. But I think Jeanette Hill also had
a very good point in that clip that we used
when she talked about people being able to weaponize the RM.
They can use it for malicious intent to hold up
(05:11):
any kind of projects they might not agree with, even
though you know they've been deemed lawful and all environmental
considerations have been taken care of.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
As I've often said on this podcast, there are two
types of people in the world. I there there are
people who find reasons to do things, and then there
are people who find reasons not to do things. Do
they is it important to have those both types of
people just sort of maintain a balance, or do we
(05:42):
just need to get rid of the people who find
reasons not to do things altogether? That's what the current
government's all about anyway you talk. Unfortunately, plenty of doctors
new doctors are finding reasons to move elsewhere in not
doctor here, which is a bit of a problem because
I think we need doctors, don't we do we?
Speaker 6 (06:00):
I think we do nowth New Zealand do not fund
enough jobs. The jobs they do fund a lowly play
paid and future prospects are limited except for a talent
of view. They get paid better overseas and they can
pay off the student loan faster, and it all starts
from day one after they've trained. Each year, Health New
Zealand fails to fund internships for twenty five to thirty graduates,
(06:23):
forcing them to look overseas. They've done everything, but there's
absolutely no job there for them. Some sure, we're overseas students,
but they'd spent seven years here. They'd like to say
if the prospects look good, but the prospects aren't. Now
we've trained these guys, and all tertiary education is partially
subsidized by you and I the taxpayer. What is the
point of spending taxpayers money training doctors if to save
(06:45):
taxpayers money we don't offer them a career path after
their studies and so how about this for a radical idea.
The government now wants to fund training for six hundred
and thirty nine doctors next year, why not also fund
six hundred and thirty nine internships, and if any of
them don't want to stay, we use that excess funding
to pay the guys who do want to stay a
(07:07):
little bit more. Because to fund training of doctors and
then refuse to fund their jobs after they've graduated, to
me is wasteful spending. And we all know how this
government feels about wasteful spending.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
It's sort of bad point, isn't it, is it? I
guess you've got to sort of look at it in
how many different areas are you going to keep do this?
And do you then fund teachers the extra? Do you
then fund age here? Workers extra? Do you then fund
pre school here extra? Do you then fund I don't know,
(07:42):
rubbish collection, the extra, the people who fix the pipes extra?
Speaker 5 (07:49):
You know?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Tricky?
Speaker 7 (07:53):
Right?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
They were talking work trips yesterday afternoon. When I say that,
I mean Mett and Tyler got quite a bit of
a response to that.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
Yoday, guys, great discussion. Ordinarily I would agree with the
value of the work trip. However, in my previous place
of employment. We all went on a conference to the US.
Drinks were had and there was some inter office relationships
had that shouldn't have been had. When we got back
to New Zealand, it all got toxic and all came
(08:23):
out and was terrible for the culture in the workplace.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I had to leave.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Wow, So that is a work trip that has gone
absolutely astray.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
That's too much booze. My previous role involved a lot
of overnight trips away. I never felt guilty when living
it up on the company. We used a lot of contractors.
We'd work after ours and got paid overnight allowances on
top of their salary. We never got paid any extra,
So why not maximized experience?
Speaker 6 (08:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Did that trip go wrong?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Was it the trip that went wrong? Or was it
coming back to reality? Is that when it went rather?
But should have just stayed on the trip. By some
of the things, it sounds like it was going awesome.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
On the trip.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
News talk has it.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Been so we've got more handwringing over stadiums in Auckland
and it's all sensed to be connected, like you know,
there's no Western Springs Speedway anymore. And now there needs
to be a new stadium, or can we just use
all the stadiums that we've got or some of them
that we have got out? But the third first, or
(09:23):
what's going on? Why are we? Why are we doing
this again?
Speaker 5 (09:26):
So rugby is our big game, but not many people
turn up. All Blacks will sell out and still sell
out and that will continue for a while, but there
are only a couple of games every couple of years.
So yeah, I mean, there was all that excitement when
(09:49):
forsythe bar opened and they're going to have everything, and
what they get.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
They got the Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Then they got out in John then they got Id Sheeran,
then things went a but haywire, and they got the
Lingerie the super Bowl, the Lingerie super Bowl, but that
got canceled and things got sketcher and sketchier until.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
There's hardly anything.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
And I think probably that will be the same with Jade.
There'll be a few big acts, but what other big acts?
Now most people have seen the big acts. Right, You've
got ed sheer and you've got Fleetwood, Mac, you've got
a deal, You've got Out and Joe, and you've got
the Rolling Stones with the Rolling Stones on their last
go around, Elton John's on his last go around, Adele,
what's she doing?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
She's nesting?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Ed?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Shearon?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Well, we've all heard his songs. You've got cold Play
where you wristbands it up and you've got Pink when
she swings across the air to add it. But good
luck to you. I hope christ d is. I hope
it is good for you, and also too, just on
(10:56):
the back of that, it's been incredibly bad for promoters.
We had Drake pull out, We're that Fresh Festival canceled,
So I think probably promoters won't want to bring acts
down here because people won't buy tickets because so many
acts have canceled, and we're not going to get the
big acts like Taylor Swift because the promoter told people
within our organization that Aucland's not big enough, not enough
(11:18):
hotel accommodation, so the real big acts won't come here.
Those ones we get fifty thousand, four or five nights,
it's not worthcoming. So yeah, Christchich might get some acts.
But basically, if you could fly from Dunedin, from Queenstown
to Sydney to see Taylor Swift, do you really want
to go to Jade Stadium to see Luke Colmbs. I
(11:44):
don't know anyway. I just think it's a great thing
for counsel to say we're going to do this and
everything's going to be fantastic, but it's often not.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And this is why we can't have nice things in
New Zealand, because we're just actually not big enough. We're
only little, and yet we want all the things that
they have everywhere else. You know, we see you know,
message sixty thousand and eighty thousand, one hundred thousand stadiums,
see the stadiums in America, and we'll go we're like
(12:14):
one of those. But there's hundreds of millions of people
in America. We've only got the five or six here.
It would be nice, nice to heaven moment that I
am Glen Hat just trying to keep it real or unreal,
(12:34):
one of those. We'll see you back here with more
surreality tomorrow. Surreality is It?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
News Talk is Talking sid Bean For more from News
Talk said B listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk, sib Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Tuesday. We need to discuss that
we're both changes to the RMA, because they're always proposing
changes to the r aren't they. Apparently the RMA is
(00:45):
still not working, so they want to try and get
it working so we can do stuff that we still
don't have enough doctors, or do have enough doctors, or
we keep training doctors and they keep leaving the country.
We try to get to the bottom of that. When
work trips go bad, Man and Tyler will be talking
(01:07):
about that, talk about the cyclical nature of news. Once again,
we're talking about stadium's stadia and Auckland hasn't got a
proper stadium before any of that. Dude, where's my electorate? O'
(01:29):
harry is no more in Wellington.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
They had to delete one from the North Island due
to the population changes. Basically, there are quotas that must
be met in order to have a certain number of electorates,
and there are fewer people living in the Lower North
Island of New Zealand, and you've got to keep things equal.
The Lower North Island population is below the target quota,
(01:54):
which is actually true of Auckland as well. But what
they've done is taken into account population growth projected population growth.
So while Wellington is below quota and Auckland is below quota,
they've gone well Auckland is going to increase, whereas Wellington's
population is expected to decrease. So lots of movement on
the boundaries, too many to list. But the wain thing
(02:15):
you need to take away from today is that a
Harru is gone and that means that Greg O'Connor, Labor MP,
is gone. Why because he went electorate only. Remember last time,
last election he said he would quit if he didn't
hold on to his electorate seat. Now the seat is gone. Therefore,
(02:37):
ipso facto, so is Greg O'Connor.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's weird to find that you've been deleted, isn't it.
It's a bit like so. I live in Rodney and
sometimes it's called Rodney and sometimes it isn't. It might
be Funga Perah. These days I actually have no idea
what my electorate is called. I think it's stilled the
(03:05):
Rodney Ward on the super City. Even know where I
live actually now that I think of it, so yeah,
I can identify with the people of Hurry. You who
are no longer other har are you? You better find
out where you are for the next election, otherwise you'll cease.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
To exist news talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I'm not sure how big an issue AREMA.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
The form will.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Before you come with the election next year.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I can't believe it isn't.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Change this three year terms. Think it's particular anyway that's
neither here nor there. What can be done to fix
all the red tape?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I think David Parker was here to be able to
even take on the job of trying to wrestle the
RMA into submission is a phenomenal task, and I think
David Parker did a pretty good job of attempting to
do that, to the extent that the coalition government will
use some of that work and build on it. But
(04:06):
I would love to hear from you if you have
been held up held to ransom by the ROMA and
whether you believe that this is going to set us
on the right track in terms of being able to
(04:27):
get on with business, do what you have to do,
but without unnecessary time constraints and without the added extra expenses.
There were so many examples given of how the RM
is ludicrous, and yet at the same time there is
a need to have legislation to protect the environment from
(04:48):
the predations of a moral people who would advance their
own interests without a second thought to the environment around them,
all the community. But I think Jeanette Hill also had
a very good point in that clip that we used
when she talked about people being able to weaponize the RM.
They can use it for malicious intent to hold up
(05:11):
any kind of projects they might not agree with, even
though you know they've been deemed lawful and all environmental
considerations have been taken care of.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
As I've often said on this podcast, there are two
types of people in the world. I there there are
people who find reasons to do things, and then there
are people who find reasons not to do things. Do
they is it important to have those both types of
people just sort of maintain a balance, or do we
(05:42):
just need to get rid of the people who find
reasons not to do things altogether? That's what the current
government's all about anyway you talk. Unfortunately, plenty of doctors
new doctors are finding reasons to move elsewhere in not
doctor here, which is a bit of a problem because
I think we need doctors, don't we do we?
Speaker 6 (06:00):
I think we do nowth New Zealand do not fund
enough jobs. The jobs they do fund a lowly play
paid and future prospects are limited except for a talent
of view. They get paid better overseas and they can
pay off the student loan faster, and it all starts
from day one after they've trained. Each year, Health New
Zealand fails to fund internships for twenty five to thirty graduates,
(06:23):
forcing them to look overseas. They've done everything, but there's
absolutely no job there for them. Some sure, we're overseas students,
but they'd spent seven years here. They'd like to say
if the prospects look good, but the prospects aren't. Now
we've trained these guys, and all tertiary education is partially
subsidized by you and I the taxpayer. What is the
point of spending taxpayers money training doctors if to save
(06:45):
taxpayers money we don't offer them a career path after
their studies and so how about this for a radical idea.
The government now wants to fund training for six hundred
and thirty nine doctors next year, why not also fund
six hundred and thirty nine internships, and if any of
them don't want to stay, we use that excess funding
to pay the guys who do want to stay a
(07:07):
little bit more. Because to fund training of doctors and
then refuse to fund their jobs after they've graduated, to
me is wasteful spending. And we all know how this
government feels about wasteful spending.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
It's sort of bad point, isn't it, is it? I
guess you've got to sort of look at it in
how many different areas are you going to keep do this?
And do you then fund teachers the extra? Do you
then fund age here? Workers extra? Do you then fund
pre school here extra? Do you then fund I don't know,
(07:42):
rubbish collection, the extra, the people who fix the pipes extra?
Speaker 5 (07:49):
You know?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Tricky?
Speaker 7 (07:53):
Right?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
They were talking work trips yesterday afternoon. When I say that,
I mean Mett and Tyler got quite a bit of
a response to that.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
Yoday, guys, great discussion. Ordinarily I would agree with the
value of the work trip. However, in my previous place
of employment. We all went on a conference to the US.
Drinks were had and there was some inter office relationships
had that shouldn't have been had. When we got back
to New Zealand, it all got toxic and all came
(08:23):
out and was terrible for the culture in the workplace.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I had to leave.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Wow, So that is a work trip that has gone
absolutely astray.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
That's too much booze. My previous role involved a lot
of overnight trips away. I never felt guilty when living
it up on the company. We used a lot of contractors.
We'd work after ours and got paid overnight allowances on
top of their salary. We never got paid any extra,
So why not maximized experience?
Speaker 6 (08:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Did that trip go wrong?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Was it the trip that went wrong? Or was it
coming back to reality? Is that when it went rather?
But should have just stayed on the trip. By some
of the things, it sounds like it was going awesome.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
On the trip.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
News talk has it.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Been so we've got more handwringing over stadiums in Auckland
and it's all sensed to be connected, like you know,
there's no Western Springs Speedway anymore. And now there needs
to be a new stadium, or can we just use
all the stadiums that we've got or some of them
that we have got out? But the third first, or
(09:23):
what's going on? Why are we? Why are we doing
this again?
Speaker 5 (09:26):
So rugby is our big game, but not many people
turn up. All Blacks will sell out and still sell
out and that will continue for a while, but there
are only a couple of games every couple of years.
So yeah, I mean, there was all that excitement when
(09:49):
forsythe bar opened and they're going to have everything, and
what they get.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
They got the Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Then they got out in John then they got Id Sheeran,
then things went a but haywire, and they got the
Lingerie the super Bowl, the Lingerie super Bowl, but that
got canceled and things got sketcher and sketchier until.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
There's hardly anything.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
And I think probably that will be the same with Jade.
There'll be a few big acts, but what other big acts?
Now most people have seen the big acts. Right, You've
got ed sheer and you've got Fleetwood, Mac, you've got
a deal, You've got Out and Joe, and you've got
the Rolling Stones with the Rolling Stones on their last
go around, Elton John's on his last go around, Adele,
what's she doing?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
She's nesting?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Ed?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Shearon?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Well, we've all heard his songs. You've got cold Play
where you wristbands it up and you've got Pink when
she swings across the air to add it. But good
luck to you. I hope christ d is. I hope
it is good for you, and also too, just on
(10:56):
the back of that, it's been incredibly bad for promoters.
We had Drake pull out, We're that Fresh Festival canceled,
So I think probably promoters won't want to bring acts
down here because people won't buy tickets because so many
acts have canceled, and we're not going to get the
big acts like Taylor Swift because the promoter told people
within our organization that Aucland's not big enough, not enough
(11:18):
hotel accommodation, so the real big acts won't come here.
Those ones we get fifty thousand, four or five nights,
it's not worthcoming. So yeah, Christchich might get some acts.
But basically, if you could fly from Dunedin, from Queenstown
to Sydney to see Taylor Swift, do you really want
to go to Jade Stadium to see Luke Colmbs. I
(11:44):
don't know anyway. I just think it's a great thing
for counsel to say we're going to do this and
everything's going to be fantastic, but it's often not.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And this is why we can't have nice things in
New Zealand, because we're just actually not big enough. We're
only little, and yet we want all the things that
they have everywhere else. You know, we see you know,
message sixty thousand and eighty thousand, one hundred thousand stadiums,
see the stadiums in America, and we'll go we're like
(12:14):
one of those. But there's hundreds of millions of people
in America. We've only got the five or six here.
It would be nice, nice to heaven moment that I
am Glen Hat just trying to keep it real or unreal,
(12:34):
one of those. We'll see you back here with more
surreality tomorrow. Surreality is It?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
News Talk is Talking sid Bean For more from News
Talk said B listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
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