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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart, and we
are looking back at Thursday. Timoth and Paul. She keeps
saying stuff that seems to annoy people here at Newsbooks.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You'd be.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
What you can use your land for, Yelling at road
workers and accidentally buying stuff on trade me. It's a
real potpourri. Today, let's start with policing again. I think
the Green Party and Timoth and Paul causing ructions here.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
We cannot let people get away with their crimes because
that really starts to rip the fabric of society, not
just strain it, but tear it. The people who are
doing good get increasingly furious, increasingly brassed off, increasingly intolerant,
and you can't blame them. How many times do you
(01:21):
see people walking out of the supermarket with the trolley's
loaded eye when you have been agonizing over how much
you have to spend and trying to feed the family
with that. So they have to be punished Ideally, they
don't commit the crime in the first place. You nip
it in the bud. And that's where I guess the
social investment policies come in. But they take time. We're
(01:45):
just going to have to put up with overcrowded prisons
for a while because I don't know about you, but
after six years of attempts to do things differently, I
don't know how they thought that reducing the prison population
(02:05):
was suddenly going to make society safer. It didn't. I
want to see good old fashioned justice and retribution, a
little bit of hell fire and brimstone for a couple
of years, no matter the cost. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I mean, you can't just keep putting people in prison
edin for nightim though, can you. We can't just keep
building more and more and more and more. It'd be
quite good if we could find a way to stop
I guess that's the key, isn't it. Until we can
find a way to stop people doing crime in the
first place. Got to do something right. Carrie's got a point.
(02:46):
News Talk Zippy Andrew Dickens was having a little listen
to what Timoth and Paul had to say about presidents
and crime. And punishment as well.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Tamoth de Paul, a woman yesterday mocked for her views
on police. Chris Hopkins said her views on beat police
were unwise and then he went further and said they
were stupid. The Prime Minister said she's in La la land.
Yesterday when I was talking about the views, I commented
that life must be really sweet on her planet. Pity
(03:15):
it's not ours. But that didn't stop her doubling down
yesterday on her views because they are not untrue in
her world. She pointed out the brown people have quite
a different perception of police than others. Look up profiling
and its meaning. It happens here. We know this. She
pointed out the terrible failure of the police in the
case of the eleven year old confused with a twenty
(03:36):
year old that we all got shocked at. This week,
she highlighted the hassle of the homeless by the police
and the reasons she didn't back down because, as she said,
they are legitimate experiences amongst her constituents. And remember she's agreen,
but she has constituents. She's not a list MP. She
won Wellington Central Fair and Square. She's talked to people
(03:58):
who have these problems. However, the complaints of one are
not the complaints of one hundred. The vast, overwhelming majority
of New Zealanders feel better with more cops on the beat.
So she is wrong, and she was wrong to take
the experience of a few and then expand it into
a broad statement of let's defund the police. However, I'm
(04:20):
going to defend her right to point out the flaws
as she sees it, because that is the true meaning
of free speech.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
What do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
The name Tamatha came from? This is so typical of
me getting distracted by some sort of minutia that's got
nothing to do with the issue at hand, But I
just can't get past it. Like we know about Tabitha.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Have we ever heard of anybody.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Else called Tamitha?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Or is it just me talk?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It seems like the government wants some more land. Can
they grab it? Can they use it for whatever they
want to use it for? Basically we're back into this
argument over we need some land for agriculture and farming
and stuff like that. We can't just keep wonking how.
Speaker 8 (05:08):
What about the land around Pukakoe near Auckland or Hordefenua
north of Wellington. I hear you are so. Horticulture industry
has long complained that infill housing or urban sprawl is
threatening to overtake the quality bits of land that we have,
and for that Bishop has a solution special agricultural zones.
(05:30):
These zones, he says, will protect your level one, your
level two, your level three land, all the good bits
from housing if it's all grouped together in a nice
natural way i e. Pukacoe and hot Efenua. So what
he's done, what he's trying to do is are bespoke
fixed to what was quite a blanket solution from the
(05:51):
previous government. Now we're still waiting on reaction from the
various industry groups this afternoon. This is a very tricky
issue for governments to deal with. It's about how we
feed ourselves, how we house ourselves, but also deals with
how individual property owners can use their own land.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, there's a bit of fine tuning to be done,
there isn't it. It was interesting talking to my nephew
who was back in the country recently east living in
Leeds at the moment, and after being in the middle
of a city where it's all very high density, you know,
coronation street style houses. I guess it was quite an
eye opener forum to come back here and then think,
(06:30):
why are all these people living in Pocono. You know,
we need to go up, not out. I think there's
probably an argument for that as well. Cheapest creepers though,
they need to get angry. Apparently we're getting more angry.
We're getting more angsy. There's more violence people are shouting
(06:50):
at road workers.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
That's not on it's on the back of two stories
we spotted yesterday. So the first one was roadworkers abused
and threatened. One in four road workers is verbally abused
by motorists on a daily basis, and one in three
says it's clearly taking a toll on their overall mental health.
That was a survey by n ZTA. The survey also
found one in five is thinking about looking for another
(07:14):
job because of the ongoing abuse at a time of
record road repairs and when workers are badly needed in
New Zealand's Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
I think it's unfair to be yelling at road workers
because the poor decisions around our road are being made
by people many times above their pay grade. It's not
their fault. They're on the road But I always wonder
about this because we hear a lot about people's mental
health because they're being yelled at. But you can't expect
the world not to abuse you. That's going to happen.
You can't be protected from people saying nasty stuff to you.
(07:42):
That's just going to happen. Do we need to teach
people that they need to be resilient and that they
need to Is it better to learn how to deal
with abuse as opposed to run away from it? If
you know what I'm saying. So, if you've got a
job that you enjoy but you're getting yelled at on
the road, people that are yelling at you bad people,
but don't let them chase you away from the job
(08:05):
that you potentially love. Just learn how to deal with abuse.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I mean there's something in that that you can only
control your own emotions, right. You can't control what these
nutcases are going to do. So if there's some idiot
who wants to yell at a rope worker that is
on them, there's nothing you can really do to change that.
You might yell back, but then have you lost it?
The not the argument, but you've lost the battle at
that point that you've engaged in anger as well.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
The weird one isn't I've just never ever considered the
people who are actually working in the high vers and
the helmets that any of it's their fault, you know,
if they have stopped going or bulldozing or whatever they're doing,
it's stopping you getting to where you want to go.
(08:54):
I mean of any worker anywhere. They are the people
who are just doing what they're told. Right, It's strange.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
News talk, has it been now?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I'm not sure who's on trade me more, Marcus or me.
It sounds like he's having a bit of a problem though,
keeping his trade me impulses under control.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
Accidentally brought something on trade me today? Yeah, I haven't
done that before. That's just with those damn phones in
your pocket. I'd open the app and not closed. Did
I come to work and check on and trade me? Well,
to be fair, it said go to check out to
finish purchasing. It was only choose a shipping option that
saved me from buying something I had no interest in what.
(09:41):
I've got a bad feedback too, So there we go.
I don't know because I have auto shut off with
my phone, I don't quite know what was happening there,
busy with my pockets on the farm or something. So
there you have it. Extually purchased something. Now, I don't
know if you've done that with your phone. If you
excitly purchased something, I'm sure some of you that would
probably drink and purchase, you wouldn't know what you brought
(10:02):
on Temu some mornings and stuff and arrivering. Gee, oh
that's right. I've got a vague memory of that looking
quite good fun anyway. I think Homer Simpson was a
big fan of that. Wasn't he buying things at night? Anyway?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, I may have done that. Actually, that trade me
under the influence. And it's amazing how things can seem
like a good deal and then with a clearer head,
you go, ah. Probably should have made a lower offer
on that and just waited to see if they accepted it.
(10:35):
But that just seems like too much faith. If you're
a bit tired, and let's just say you're a bit relaxed.
I am tired, So I'm going off to relax with
the weekend, are we bet? With a weekend edition of
News Talks. He'd been on Monday. I'll see you then, News.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Talks it been for more from News Talk Said Be
listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on IAR
Radio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said Bee.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk, sed Be Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart, and we
are looking back at Thursday. Timoth and Paul. She keeps
saying stuff that seems to annoy people here at Newsbooks.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You'd be.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
What you can use your land for, Yelling at road
workers and accidentally buying stuff on trade me. It's a
real potpourri. Today, let's start with policing again. I think
the Green Party and Timoth and Paul causing ructions here.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
We cannot let people get away with their crimes because
that really starts to rip the fabric of society, not
just strain it, but tear it. The people who are
doing good get increasingly furious, increasingly brassed off, increasingly intolerant,
and you can't blame them. How many times do you
(01:21):
see people walking out of the supermarket with the trolley's
loaded eye when you have been agonizing over how much
you have to spend and trying to feed the family
with that. So they have to be punished Ideally, they
don't commit the crime in the first place. You nip
it in the bud. And that's where I guess the
social investment policies come in. But they take time. We're
(01:45):
just going to have to put up with overcrowded prisons
for a while because I don't know about you, but
after six years of attempts to do things differently, I
don't know how they thought that reducing the prison population
(02:05):
was suddenly going to make society safer. It didn't. I
want to see good old fashioned justice and retribution, a
little bit of hell fire and brimstone for a couple
of years, no matter the cost. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I mean, you can't just keep putting people in prison
edin for nightim though, can you. We can't just keep
building more and more and more and more. It'd be
quite good if we could find a way to stop
I guess that's the key, isn't it. Until we can
find a way to stop people doing crime in the
first place. Got to do something right. Carrie's got a point.
(02:46):
News Talk Zippy Andrew Dickens was having a little listen
to what Timoth and Paul had to say about presidents
and crime. And punishment as well.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Tamoth de Paul, a woman yesterday mocked for her views
on police. Chris Hopkins said her views on beat police
were unwise and then he went further and said they
were stupid. The Prime Minister said she's in La la land.
Yesterday when I was talking about the views, I commented
that life must be really sweet on her planet. Pity
(03:15):
it's not ours. But that didn't stop her doubling down
yesterday on her views because they are not untrue in
her world. She pointed out the brown people have quite
a different perception of police than others. Look up profiling
and its meaning. It happens here. We know this. She
pointed out the terrible failure of the police in the
case of the eleven year old confused with a twenty
(03:36):
year old that we all got shocked at. This week,
she highlighted the hassle of the homeless by the police
and the reasons she didn't back down because, as she said,
they are legitimate experiences amongst her constituents. And remember she's agreen,
but she has constituents. She's not a list MP. She
won Wellington Central Fair and Square. She's talked to people
(03:58):
who have these problems. However, the complaints of one are
not the complaints of one hundred. The vast, overwhelming majority
of New Zealanders feel better with more cops on the beat.
So she is wrong, and she was wrong to take
the experience of a few and then expand it into
a broad statement of let's defund the police. However, I'm
(04:20):
going to defend her right to point out the flaws
as she sees it, because that is the true meaning
of free speech.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
What do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
The name Tamatha came from? This is so typical of
me getting distracted by some sort of minutia that's got
nothing to do with the issue at hand, But I
just can't get past it. Like we know about Tabitha.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Have we ever heard of anybody.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Else called Tamitha?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Or is it just me talk?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It seems like the government wants some more land. Can
they grab it? Can they use it for whatever they
want to use it for? Basically we're back into this
argument over we need some land for agriculture and farming
and stuff like that. We can't just keep wonking how.
Speaker 8 (05:08):
What about the land around Pukakoe near Auckland or Hordefenua
north of Wellington. I hear you are so. Horticulture industry
has long complained that infill housing or urban sprawl is
threatening to overtake the quality bits of land that we have,
and for that Bishop has a solution special agricultural zones.
(05:30):
These zones, he says, will protect your level one, your
level two, your level three land, all the good bits
from housing if it's all grouped together in a nice
natural way i e. Pukacoe and hot Efenua. So what
he's done, what he's trying to do is are bespoke
fixed to what was quite a blanket solution from the
(05:51):
previous government. Now we're still waiting on reaction from the
various industry groups this afternoon. This is a very tricky
issue for governments to deal with. It's about how we
feed ourselves, how we house ourselves, but also deals with
how individual property owners can use their own land.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, there's a bit of fine tuning to be done,
there isn't it. It was interesting talking to my nephew
who was back in the country recently east living in
Leeds at the moment, and after being in the middle
of a city where it's all very high density, you know,
coronation street style houses. I guess it was quite an
eye opener forum to come back here and then think,
(06:30):
why are all these people living in Pocono. You know,
we need to go up, not out. I think there's
probably an argument for that as well. Cheapest creepers though,
they need to get angry. Apparently we're getting more angry.
We're getting more angsy. There's more violence people are shouting
(06:50):
at road workers.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
That's not on it's on the back of two stories
we spotted yesterday. So the first one was roadworkers abused
and threatened. One in four road workers is verbally abused
by motorists on a daily basis, and one in three
says it's clearly taking a toll on their overall mental health.
That was a survey by n ZTA. The survey also
found one in five is thinking about looking for another
(07:14):
job because of the ongoing abuse at a time of
record road repairs and when workers are badly needed in
New Zealand's Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
I think it's unfair to be yelling at road workers
because the poor decisions around our road are being made
by people many times above their pay grade. It's not
their fault. They're on the road But I always wonder
about this because we hear a lot about people's mental
health because they're being yelled at. But you can't expect
the world not to abuse you. That's going to happen.
You can't be protected from people saying nasty stuff to you.
(07:42):
That's just going to happen. Do we need to teach
people that they need to be resilient and that they
need to Is it better to learn how to deal
with abuse as opposed to run away from it? If
you know what I'm saying. So, if you've got a
job that you enjoy but you're getting yelled at on
the road, people that are yelling at you bad people,
but don't let them chase you away from the job
(08:05):
that you potentially love. Just learn how to deal with abuse.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I mean there's something in that that you can only
control your own emotions, right. You can't control what these
nutcases are going to do. So if there's some idiot
who wants to yell at a rope worker that is
on them, there's nothing you can really do to change that.
You might yell back, but then have you lost it?
The not the argument, but you've lost the battle at
that point that you've engaged in anger as well.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
The weird one isn't I've just never ever considered the
people who are actually working in the high vers and
the helmets that any of it's their fault, you know,
if they have stopped going or bulldozing or whatever they're doing,
it's stopping you getting to where you want to go.
(08:54):
I mean of any worker anywhere. They are the people
who are just doing what they're told. Right, It's strange.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
News talk, has it been now?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I'm not sure who's on trade me more, Marcus or me.
It sounds like he's having a bit of a problem though,
keeping his trade me impulses under control.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
Accidentally brought something on trade me today? Yeah, I haven't
done that before. That's just with those damn phones in
your pocket. I'd open the app and not closed. Did
I come to work and check on and trade me? Well,
to be fair, it said go to check out to
finish purchasing. It was only choose a shipping option that
saved me from buying something I had no interest in what.
(09:41):
I've got a bad feedback too, So there we go.
I don't know because I have auto shut off with
my phone, I don't quite know what was happening there,
busy with my pockets on the farm or something. So
there you have it. Extually purchased something. Now, I don't
know if you've done that with your phone. If you
excitly purchased something, I'm sure some of you that would
probably drink and purchase, you wouldn't know what you brought
(10:02):
on Temu some mornings and stuff and arrivering. Gee, oh
that's right. I've got a vague memory of that looking
quite good fun anyway. I think Homer Simpson was a
big fan of that. Wasn't he buying things at night? Anyway?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, I may have done that. Actually, that trade me
under the influence. And it's amazing how things can seem
like a good deal and then with a clearer head,
you go, ah. Probably should have made a lower offer
on that and just waited to see if they accepted it.
(10:35):
But that just seems like too much faith. If you're
a bit tired, and let's just say you're a bit relaxed.
I am tired, So I'm going off to relax with
the weekend, are we bet? With a weekend edition of
News Talks. He'd been on Monday. I'll see you then, News.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Talks it been for more from News Talk Said Be
listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on IAR
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