April 27, 2025 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the long weekend on Newstalk ZB) Or Was it Just Another Day Off?/Counting Is Really Hard/EV Regrets/Too Many Cars/Blues Blues
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Being the Long
Weekend Edition. First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Heart
And because it's the long weeking edition that we're going
right back to Friday. So that's good. I know I
haven't been here for a couple of weeks, but I'm
trying to make up for it with one podcast today,
We're going to talk the family Boost. Incredible cock up, really,
(00:46):
isn't it. Nobody's being boosted the way that Nashall told
us they would be. It's actually speaking of giving things
a boost if you've got an EV, and I think
people are a bit embarrassed about having an EV these days,
aren't they. Anyway, if you have, there's a charger coming
to you shortly or somewhere near to you. Anyway. I'm
(01:11):
not sure what kind of Jack Tayment has got that
he's gone from being a one car family to a
new car family or something, and find out more about that.
And Andrew Horte, he's in charge of the Blues. He
tries to explain what's gone wrong with him this season.
But before any of that, Yes, ANZAC Day on Friday back,
Shelford came on to the Holiday Breakfast Show on Friday
(01:33):
morning to talk about stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
What do you make of the government's announcements in recent
weeks around the definitions and adjusting the ANZAC act.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Well, I think that you know, looking trying to actually
define the role of a well what them when you
can be caught class itself as a veteran. You know,
it's been piecemeal over the years, and some have said that,
you know, it's when you actually a test when you
first join the military and you signed the piece of paper.
(02:05):
And now they've actually put a bit of a stake
in the ground and said, you know, you're going to
be getting your first medal because of your service medal
three years at least they've actually said that, And all
of the ones that haven't classed themselves as veterans can
now class mouse themselves as a veteran because they've all
got that medal. Yeah, and so it's quite different to
(02:27):
an operational medal. And yeah, so it's quite different altogether.
But you know, once you get past that three year mark,
you know, you can class yourself as a veteran, and
a lot of people didn't class themselves as a difference.
But it's in ink now and something is but we're
still there to try and actually try, and actually that's
the first stage, and we want to move on to
(02:48):
the next stage and trying to get better things for
the servicemen as well as well as the veterans as
well the old guys in the OURA.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I mean, I have a very unpopular opinion about NJFDA
for books. Shouldn't really say but based on the fact
that nobody could be a veteran, nobody war and if
everybody agreed not to do that would be very hard
to fight them. But I won't say that.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
News talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Now this family boost thing, I had to I hate
doing this when I'm on holiday. I was on holiday
the last couple of weeks. But I come back to
find that we still can't count, apparently or make any
kind of accurate prediction about things. So instead of thousands
and thousands of families taking advantage of the family boosts,
(03:41):
rebate or benefit or whatever it is, hardly anyone do.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Hey is of course that at the end of July
the AID or June, the ID will have clearer data
to inform policy improvements, which they plan to do. But
we've learned that it might not be enough time to
get the correct information as families have four years to
put their claim in and it's expected some will never
be bothered to do so. Maybe the squeezed middle isn't
(04:07):
so squeezed on the Finance Minister for not messing around
once they were called on this though, and admitting they
got it wrong. If we've learned anything from the drawn
out school lunch saga, accept in responsibility early is a
much better way to move the story on. However, heading
into budget delivering month of the government will want the
public to trust its financial competency, not be wondering if
(04:30):
it's guessing. Trust in government has full into forty five
percent in the last last trust barometer, and hiccups like
this don't help sell policies. Aside from this inconvenience and
embarrassment of getting the family boost figures wrong, the budget
will be the Finance Minister's main priority at the moment.
It's a huge technical and complex process and you have
to get it right. Remember the ten billion hole the
(04:52):
National's transport plans or the eleven point seven billion dollar
hole Stephen Joyce claimed he found in Labour's budget for
the twenty seventeen election. Mistakes like this would be much
more damaging.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yes, it's a timing issue, really, isn't it. I mean
if they I've made this kind of snapper and the
lead up to next year's election. Ah, every time I
say that, I can't believe it's come around already. Why
are we talking about next year's election? Or was it
me who brought that up? Anyway? Yeah, then it would
be more of an issue for them, But instead they
can just go, ah, yes, I was about it. Let's
(05:27):
move on.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
News talk.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Has it been right? So the government's made a big announcement?
Is it a big announcement? But they may announced me
anyway on putting in some more ev charges about the place.
Here's the bloken charge of that sixty.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Eight point five million. I don't want to sort of
sort of million or billion and things, but it doesn't
seem like much money. Is that going to do the trick?
Speaker 6 (05:50):
At won't get us to the ten thousand? There will
be the further investment required, And to be honest, it's
a little bit. We're not exactly sure how much more
will be required because one of the things we're going
to do is go out to the market and guessed
exactly what the economics are, you know, commercially around the
country over the next couple of years with this initial
sixty eight point five million. A lot depends on exactly
(06:13):
what you build and where you build it. So there's
different types of EV charges. Some are fa some are flow.
The economics of some places are better than others, and
so we're committed to, you know, getting as close as
we can and get to the ten twenty thirty. It
will undoubtedly be further investment required, and you know there'll
be future budget decisions around that in the years ahead.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I saw ten thousand. I think when your press release
was described as a stretch target. Does that mean you've
just rounded it up to a nice number to sound good.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
No, No, No, the ten thousand is what we campaigned
on and there is some rationale to it. So basically
we have some of the lowest numbers of EV charges
per EV and the OECD.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, this one of those policies that's already coming back
to bite them. I mean, people trying to get rid
of their evs. Nobody wants an EV what and now
they're spending all this money on EV charge? Is I
must have missed something while I was away on holiday.
I thought we weren't doing anymore.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
You talk, said, I'm not sure what.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Kind of car Jack's driving, But for a while there
it's hand life. He wasn't driving any what's happening here?
Speaker 7 (07:24):
So two years on, what is the verdict? Well, sure,
it takes marginally more coordination than it did with two
separate vehicles, but if anything, it has honestly been easier
than I imagined. And I've actually noticed, like subconsciously, I often
don't even think about taking the car for most of
(07:44):
my journeys. The biggest challenge is organizing around a clash
in our schedules. But there are honestly surprising benefits outside
the obvious. One little thing, I just I love not
having to faf around so much with parking. It seems minor,
but it's like it's like a quality of life thing
for me. And look, I'm not saying that our setup
(08:05):
is right or will work for every house in every family,
of course, not. Okay, you do you, Although it has
to be said, we've got really good friends who have
a three child house in a suburb that's much further
out than our one, and they manage with one car
just fine. And not once in the last two and
(08:25):
a bit years has either of us, either me or Marv,
doubted our decision. It is cleaner, and even if you
don't care about the fact that it's cleaner, it is
certainly cheaper having a one car household. And interesting, right
New Zealand still has one of the highest rates of
car ownership in the world after two years. I'm convinced
that doesn't need to be said.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Of course, Jack relatively recently became a father, and I
think what he will find is it certainly there was
a time in the Ben household where we were a
one car family for a while there, but yeah, once
we started breeding, that'll because eventually you're going to have
(09:10):
to be putting heads and strollers and other paraphernalia. Porter cots.
Are they still a thing? Porter cots? There used to
be a thing you had to fit in your car
and going in different directions. And if he decides to
have more than one, and yeah, I can employ you
to not have more than one, have less than one.
(09:31):
If you short can probably can't pol be late for that. Yeah,
heads all, there's only so many kids that you can
fit in one car with all their bits and pieces.
This bit's gone on a bit long, from baby blues
to Blues Blues. Yes, the Awkland Blues languishing at the
(09:54):
bottom of the super regbue table.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
Oh what a shame, it's CEO.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
What can you do to try and help out?
Speaker 9 (10:04):
Yeah, no, it is, And I think everyone be agree
after the fantastic performance of last week, we didn't quite
get the same. And I think that the key thing
is you support good people and this group doesn't go
from good to tell by the night and searching for
the answers, and you've got to support them in finding
(10:27):
those solutions because I think we've shown and I think
people would agree that the next four games, if we
get up and get into that, even the thick spot,
it's on for young or old, and that's the beauty
of the competition. So panicking and getting in a flux
is going to do anything. It's actually supporting and motivating
(10:49):
and supporting these people to reach their potential. And if
we do that, there's still a lot of season to go,
which is when you look at how far through the
season we are. It's it certainly is a fantastic competition
this year.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
Oh with that question, with that question, yeah, one of
the best I can remember. And you talk about supporting
the coaching staff, the playing and such like, what does
that support look like? What do you what can you
actually specifically physically do.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Well?
Speaker 9 (11:18):
Sometimes I think the best thing you can do is
actually just listen. Listen about how they're working through those
problems and what they're looking to do. Make sure that
you've got an environment that's enabling to give them the
time to breed and the support that they need within
that environment. They may need some time where they need
(11:38):
extra time as a team and making that time available.
There's also just staying to systems and structures which we
know works and looking out for those people as well,
so that they've got support at times of high stress
because you're going in each week and your work is
(11:59):
on a scoreboard in front of well, now you know
there's been one hundred and fifty three million viewers a
sturistic regions all alone. It's a lot of people that
have a lot of opinion.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Piece, is that like again that's unique to the Blues
I'm pretty sure every team is to put up with
that stuff, don't they. And yet again, of course we've
got this weird prejudice that seems to happen when the
Chiefs are doing well. At the top of the table.
We'd rather talk about how badly another team's doing than
actually talk about how well the Chiefs are doing. What's
(12:31):
that about? Weird, isn't it? Anyway? We'll just keep tracking on,
won't we chease iromly and heart loyal Chiefs? Then that
has been News Talks. They'd been and we'll react with
more of me going on about the Chiefs when nobody
else will probably tomorrow that probably.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Won't even talk about it.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
That's not me being prejudiced against the Chiefs, though, doesn't
make that quite beat us talks.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
For more from news Talks, it'd be listen live on
air or online and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said b
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk said, Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Being the Long
Weekend Edition. First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Heart
And because it's the long weeking edition that we're going
right back to Friday. So that's good. I know I
haven't been here for a couple of weeks, but I'm
trying to make up for it with one podcast today,
We're going to talk the family Boost. Incredible cock up, really,
(00:46):
isn't it. Nobody's being boosted the way that Nashall told
us they would be. It's actually speaking of giving things
a boost if you've got an EV, and I think
people are a bit embarrassed about having an EV these days,
aren't they. Anyway, if you have, there's a charger coming
to you shortly or somewhere near to you. Anyway. I'm
(01:11):
not sure what kind of Jack Tayment has got that
he's gone from being a one car family to a
new car family or something, and find out more about that.
And Andrew Horte, he's in charge of the Blues. He
tries to explain what's gone wrong with him this season.
But before any of that, Yes, ANZAC Day on Friday back,
Shelford came on to the Holiday Breakfast Show on Friday
(01:33):
morning to talk about stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
What do you make of the government's announcements in recent
weeks around the definitions and adjusting the ANZAC act.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Well, I think that you know, looking trying to actually
define the role of a well what them when you
can be caught class itself as a veteran. You know,
it's been piecemeal over the years, and some have said that,
you know, it's when you actually a test when you
first join the military and you signed the piece of paper.
(02:05):
And now they've actually put a bit of a stake
in the ground and said, you know, you're going to
be getting your first medal because of your service medal
three years at least they've actually said that, And all
of the ones that haven't classed themselves as veterans can
now class mouse themselves as a veteran because they've all
got that medal. Yeah, and so it's quite different to
(02:27):
an operational medal. And yeah, so it's quite different altogether.
But you know, once you get past that three year mark,
you know, you can class yourself as a veteran, and
a lot of people didn't class themselves as a difference.
But it's in ink now and something is but we're
still there to try and actually try, and actually that's
the first stage, and we want to move on to
(02:48):
the next stage and trying to get better things for
the servicemen as well as well as the veterans as
well the old guys in the OURA.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I mean, I have a very unpopular opinion about NJFDA
for books. Shouldn't really say but based on the fact
that nobody could be a veteran, nobody war and if
everybody agreed not to do that would be very hard
to fight them. But I won't say that.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
News talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Now this family boost thing, I had to I hate
doing this when I'm on holiday. I was on holiday
the last couple of weeks. But I come back to
find that we still can't count, apparently or make any
kind of accurate prediction about things. So instead of thousands
and thousands of families taking advantage of the family boosts,
(03:41):
rebate or benefit or whatever it is, hardly anyone do.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Hey is of course that at the end of July
the AID or June, the ID will have clearer data
to inform policy improvements, which they plan to do. But
we've learned that it might not be enough time to
get the correct information as families have four years to
put their claim in and it's expected some will never
be bothered to do so. Maybe the squeezed middle isn't
(04:07):
so squeezed on the Finance Minister for not messing around
once they were called on this though, and admitting they
got it wrong. If we've learned anything from the drawn
out school lunch saga, accept in responsibility early is a
much better way to move the story on. However, heading
into budget delivering month of the government will want the
public to trust its financial competency, not be wondering if
(04:30):
it's guessing. Trust in government has full into forty five
percent in the last last trust barometer, and hiccups like
this don't help sell policies. Aside from this inconvenience and
embarrassment of getting the family boost figures wrong, the budget
will be the Finance Minister's main priority at the moment.
It's a huge technical and complex process and you have
to get it right. Remember the ten billion hole the
(04:52):
National's transport plans or the eleven point seven billion dollar
hole Stephen Joyce claimed he found in Labour's budget for
the twenty seventeen election. Mistakes like this would be much
more damaging.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yes, it's a timing issue, really, isn't it. I mean
if they I've made this kind of snapper and the
lead up to next year's election. Ah, every time I
say that, I can't believe it's come around already. Why
are we talking about next year's election? Or was it
me who brought that up? Anyway? Yeah, then it would
be more of an issue for them, But instead they
can just go, ah, yes, I was about it. Let's
(05:27):
move on.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
News talk.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Has it been right? So the government's made a big announcement?
Is it a big announcement? But they may announced me
anyway on putting in some more ev charges about the place.
Here's the bloken charge of that sixty.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Eight point five million. I don't want to sort of
sort of million or billion and things, but it doesn't
seem like much money. Is that going to do the trick?
Speaker 6 (05:50):
At won't get us to the ten thousand? There will
be the further investment required, And to be honest, it's
a little bit. We're not exactly sure how much more
will be required because one of the things we're going
to do is go out to the market and guessed
exactly what the economics are, you know, commercially around the
country over the next couple of years with this initial
sixty eight point five million. A lot depends on exactly
(06:13):
what you build and where you build it. So there's
different types of EV charges. Some are fa some are flow.
The economics of some places are better than others, and
so we're committed to, you know, getting as close as
we can and get to the ten twenty thirty. It
will undoubtedly be further investment required, and you know there'll
be future budget decisions around that in the years ahead.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I saw ten thousand. I think when your press release
was described as a stretch target. Does that mean you've
just rounded it up to a nice number to sound good.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
No, No, No, the ten thousand is what we campaigned
on and there is some rationale to it. So basically
we have some of the lowest numbers of EV charges
per EV and the OECD.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, this one of those policies that's already coming back
to bite them. I mean, people trying to get rid
of their evs. Nobody wants an EV what and now
they're spending all this money on EV charge? Is I
must have missed something while I was away on holiday.
I thought we weren't doing anymore.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
You talk, said, I'm not sure what.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Kind of car Jack's driving, But for a while there
it's hand life. He wasn't driving any what's happening here?
Speaker 7 (07:24):
So two years on, what is the verdict? Well, sure,
it takes marginally more coordination than it did with two
separate vehicles, but if anything, it has honestly been easier
than I imagined. And I've actually noticed, like subconsciously, I often
don't even think about taking the car for most of
(07:44):
my journeys. The biggest challenge is organizing around a clash
in our schedules. But there are honestly surprising benefits outside
the obvious. One little thing, I just I love not
having to faf around so much with parking. It seems minor,
but it's like it's like a quality of life thing
for me. And look, I'm not saying that our setup
(08:05):
is right or will work for every house in every family,
of course, not. Okay, you do you, Although it has
to be said, we've got really good friends who have
a three child house in a suburb that's much further
out than our one, and they manage with one car
just fine. And not once in the last two and
(08:25):
a bit years has either of us, either me or Marv,
doubted our decision. It is cleaner, and even if you
don't care about the fact that it's cleaner, it is
certainly cheaper having a one car household. And interesting, right
New Zealand still has one of the highest rates of
car ownership in the world after two years. I'm convinced
that doesn't need to be said.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Of course, Jack relatively recently became a father, and I
think what he will find is it certainly there was
a time in the Ben household where we were a
one car family for a while there, but yeah, once
we started breeding, that'll because eventually you're going to have
(09:10):
to be putting heads and strollers and other paraphernalia. Porter cots.
Are they still a thing? Porter cots? There used to
be a thing you had to fit in your car
and going in different directions. And if he decides to
have more than one, and yeah, I can employ you
to not have more than one, have less than one.
(09:31):
If you short can probably can't pol be late for that. Yeah,
heads all, there's only so many kids that you can
fit in one car with all their bits and pieces.
This bit's gone on a bit long, from baby blues
to Blues Blues. Yes, the Awkland Blues languishing at the
(09:54):
bottom of the super regbue table.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
Oh what a shame, it's CEO.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
What can you do to try and help out?
Speaker 9 (10:04):
Yeah, no, it is, And I think everyone be agree
after the fantastic performance of last week, we didn't quite
get the same. And I think that the key thing
is you support good people and this group doesn't go
from good to tell by the night and searching for
the answers, and you've got to support them in finding
(10:27):
those solutions because I think we've shown and I think
people would agree that the next four games, if we
get up and get into that, even the thick spot,
it's on for young or old, and that's the beauty
of the competition. So panicking and getting in a flux
is going to do anything. It's actually supporting and motivating
(10:49):
and supporting these people to reach their potential. And if
we do that, there's still a lot of season to go,
which is when you look at how far through the
season we are. It's it certainly is a fantastic competition
this year.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
Oh with that question, with that question, yeah, one of
the best I can remember. And you talk about supporting
the coaching staff, the playing and such like, what does
that support look like? What do you what can you
actually specifically physically do.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Well?
Speaker 9 (11:18):
Sometimes I think the best thing you can do is
actually just listen. Listen about how they're working through those
problems and what they're looking to do. Make sure that
you've got an environment that's enabling to give them the
time to breed and the support that they need within
that environment. They may need some time where they need
(11:38):
extra time as a team and making that time available.
There's also just staying to systems and structures which we
know works and looking out for those people as well,
so that they've got support at times of high stress
because you're going in each week and your work is
(11:59):
on a scoreboard in front of well, now you know
there's been one hundred and fifty three million viewers a
sturistic regions all alone. It's a lot of people that
have a lot of opinion.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Piece, is that like again that's unique to the Blues
I'm pretty sure every team is to put up with
that stuff, don't they. And yet again, of course we've
got this weird prejudice that seems to happen when the
Chiefs are doing well. At the top of the table.
We'd rather talk about how badly another team's doing than
actually talk about how well the Chiefs are doing. What's
(12:31):
that about? Weird, isn't it? Anyway? We'll just keep tracking on,
won't we chease iromly and heart loyal Chiefs? Then that
has been News Talks. They'd been and we'll react with
more of me going on about the Chiefs when nobody
else will probably tomorrow that probably.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Won't even talk about it.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
That's not me being prejudiced against the Chiefs, though, doesn't
make that quite beat us talks.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
For more from news Talks, it'd be listen live on
air or online and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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