April 30, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) No Pocket Money... Well, Not This Year, Anyway/Still Have a Holiday Though/Throwing Away the Key/What's That Banging?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Beans to Thursday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Harton. We are
looking back at Wednesday. We're discussing putting your holiday on
the never never, people who should be in jail for
a very long time being let out a bit earlier
(00:45):
than some of the people would like. And the weather.
I don't know why we're talking about the weather. I
hate talking about the weather, but we're going to be
doing that at the end of the part. But before
any of that, Yeah, a lot of pre budget goings
on out there, this whole operating allowance thing. Times are tough.
(01:11):
Don't expect any lilies.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Are they doing a Hipkins borrowing and splashing the cash,
stacking the pantry with nice brand spanking new purchases, or
are they doing a Willis spending on the stuff that
you need, cutting the stuff that you don't, and trying
to balance your budget so you can start paying down
your debt. I reckon most Kiwis are doing the latter,
and in that score, she's on the money. But here's
(01:36):
the thing to worry about, and it's a worry every
time there's an election. The political calculation for budget twenty
twenty five will be very different to Budget twenty twenty six.
You can get away with running a tight ship in
the off season, but next year we're going to the polls.
Just look across the Tasman for a whiff of how
mad that makes us and by extension, our politicians. Elbow's
(01:58):
borrowing so much for his spandangle election promises that stand
in pause, threatening to downgrade their triple A credit rating.
Debt funded elections, spending so out the gate, it's pushing
government outlays to the highest levels since World War Two.
They're now promising to cut seven billion dollars out of
the public service. At least they pushed the boat out
too far. And this is a labor government across the testament.
(02:22):
Let's not forget the coalition's been dining out on the
credit card too. It's not just the lefties. And this
is the lesson and the warning this morning. Being frugal
and thrifty is easy when you're not trying to buy
an election. So yes, Willis is making the right noises
for now, but next year might just be a different story.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it. I said as much the
other day when we had this whole wopsie Day's family
boosters not being used by anything like as many families
as we thought it was going to be, And I said, well,
you know, if it had been an election year, that
(03:03):
kind of mistake would be potentially lethal. But nobody's going
to remember that in a year's time, are they?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
News talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
But back to this year's digit and hear that? Does
it all add up for you?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Every single year we are spending more money than we
make as a country. And this is every year. This
is even in years when the economy economy is running
red hot, we're still spending more money than we could
possibly make. If it was a household, we'd be talking
about a family spending more than they earn and then
running up that difference in credit cards every year, but
then also making the crazy decision to increase their spending
(03:43):
even though they're living off the credit card. That's what
we're doing now. I think we need to cut some
big things here. I don't want to be accused of
being a racist. So I'm reluctant to say publicly that
we should cut the Ministry for Marti Development or the
Ministry for Pacific Peoples. But I am a woman, and
I'm very happy to see us cut the Women's Ministry
because why on earth do we need that? What's it
doing to your life? Nothing? And then also why do
(04:04):
we have a ministry for the environment and also a
Department of concer I feel like we can cut a
lot of these departments and save a whole lot of money.
I could go on. But if we don't get real,
and this is the real point here, if we don't
get real, and if we don't start running smaller budgets
where we spend within our means on the regular, something
we'll have to give in this country. And the thing
that every commentator out there seems to want to cut
(04:25):
is your pension because it is the most expensive thing
in this country apparently. Now, if I had a choice personally,
I would keep the pension, and I would cut nonsense
like the Women's Ministry and every other ministry we don't need,
and I would stop spending more every year than we
did in the last year, just because that's what we
do now, Like I say, I am impressed with what
(04:46):
Nikola Willis is doing. She's going further than I thought
that she would, but not far enough. If we're actually
going to fix this country's box.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
No pocket money from here there if she is in charge. Yeah,
tough times. Indeed, us talk savy. So it might be
a bit surprising to hear that some people are going
on holidays anyway, even if they can't afford them, and
they're just buying now and paying later.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
I'd rather retire a bit earlier, maybe in my sixties
early sixties, and rather than pay off a lot of
head when I was younger, wait until I'm seventy five. Yeah,
something worth.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
But just with the idea, Craig that when you're eighty,
you've still got the ability, hopefully to maybe do a
little bit of work or still pay off off whatever
det you've got. But you're not going to be skydiving,
and you're not going to be climbing up Killiman Jarrow,
and you're not going to be doing some of those
physical things. Does that come into it all for you?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
I guess so. I mean, I'm probably lucky enough to
have done a few things when I was younger, but
so I don't have a burning desire for some of
those things. But yeah, I don't know. I just reckon. Yeah,
being forced to work to you older just because you
had a you know, especially holiday, I don't know about that.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
Is it imperative in life? I've been having this discussion
with people to holiday overseas to have a good life.
Is that really imperative or is it just as good
to get a tent and go down to the beach
in New Zealand Compared to the damage you do to
your life, Craig by spending an insane amount of money
by going to the most beautiful place I don't know,
(06:22):
let's pick grease as a place or whatever, lovely, the
damage you do to your life in terms of how
later you have to retire and how much work you
could do.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, Tyler made the point that it's not just going
on holiday, it's when you get there. You tend to
overspend as well. Just the happy hour cocktails taste so
good you keep ordering after happy hour finishes, you know
what I mean. Although I'm saying that it went to
Balley last year and we actually ended up spending less
(06:50):
than we thought we were going to spend. It was
so cheap when we got there, So it doesn't always
go that way. It's time to talk prisons or corrections,
whatever you want to call it. We're fiddling with the
rules and rigs again. They're not going to be allowed
to business. Some of them are the moment people really
(07:16):
that exercise about that one. But the parole business. That's
got to get some about them, because it seems like
we're letting people out who shouldn't really be out there
because they go out there and then they do nasty things.
Speaker 8 (07:29):
Once they're released from prison. It's you know, Jesus take
the wheel. Really, Will they get the beard at the
rehabilitation center? Who knows? Probably not, it'll be full. Will
they get the kind of monitoring, the strict monitoring that's necessary.
Chances are not really. In this particular case at the
(07:53):
Coronial Innquez, the probation officer found that the probation arrangements
hadn't been entered into the computer properly. Oops. SOZ you know,
you can have no faith in the system that when
these high risk individuals come out of prison that the
protections will be there for their man for the public.
(08:13):
I don't have any faith they'll be there at all,
and anybody who works in the system doesn't have any
faith they'll be there. And yet the public can't be
warned because they have a right to privacy. And again
I asked the question, why did their rights to privacy
trump the public's right to safety? If there are no guarantees,
(08:38):
if they are still considered high risk, then unfortunately they're
going to have to stay in prison because their rights
should not trump howers it.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
There's no perfect system, is there. I mean, obviously you
could lock people away forever or kill them. It happens
in some countries, isn't it. That's probably quite effective. Do
we really want to go down that road? Some people
(09:10):
probably do?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
News talk Ze.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Bean, right, we're going to finish up here. Looking at
the weather. I think Marcus is a bit worried about
the weather. What's he got on?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Every day?
Speaker 9 (09:21):
There's talks about the weather, but it's really hard to
work out what's actually happening to people. So we've got
fairies canceled, we've got flights canceled or flights about to
be canceled, and it appears as though it's Auckland and
(09:41):
Wellington that's the most worst hit. So if you've got
any scenarios are happening, let us know. I am curious
today what it's like, what's happening at the moment, because,
as I say, you hear the report, but what's happening
on ground, you know, at the road level is sometimes
quite different. The winds and willing to break to be
quite strong there tomorrow, I think, probably the strongest in
(10:03):
ten years. So one for our last time was twenty thirteen.
We went into an airport. That was the situation. You
might remember that one four to two kilometers per hour.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, very windy at my place overnight and there was
a banging and you're lying there in bed and there's
a banging, and you're wondering, is that something that I
can do something about? In the middle of the night.
Am I even going to be able to figure out
where the banging is?
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Like?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Do I go outside in the wind and the rain
try and locate the source of the banging? And then
if I do locate the source of the banging, am
I even going to be able to fix the banging?
And then I just went back to sleep, to be honest,
(10:59):
But I'm sure I'll hear more about the banging later on,
because there's another person in the room who doesn't sleep
as quite as soundly as I do. So that's going
to be And I'm not saying that I'm going to
get blamed for the banging, but perhaps I should have
(11:21):
taken it more seriously and done something about it. I mean,
if there's still when when I get home, I'm happy
to go out and look at the banging in the daylight.
And then if, but what if it involves going up
the ladder, I'll be told I'm not supposed to go
up leaders. What do you do? Do you got the
(11:43):
ladder fixed the banging or do you just live with
the banging or hope the wind goes away. Life's so complicated,
isn't it. I am Glen Hart. You've got that to
worry about today. I hope your day is less stressful,
and we'll see you back here again tomorrow for more
unless I fall off the ladder.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Obviously used Talking.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
For more from used Talk said, be listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go. With our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said be
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iHeartRadio used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Beans to Thursday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Harton. We are
looking back at Wednesday. We're discussing putting your holiday on
the never never, people who should be in jail for
a very long time being let out a bit earlier
(00:45):
than some of the people would like. And the weather.
I don't know why we're talking about the weather. I
hate talking about the weather, but we're going to be
doing that at the end of the part. But before
any of that, Yeah, a lot of pre budget goings
on out there, this whole operating allowance thing. Times are tough.
(01:11):
Don't expect any lilies.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Are they doing a Hipkins borrowing and splashing the cash,
stacking the pantry with nice brand spanking new purchases, or
are they doing a Willis spending on the stuff that
you need, cutting the stuff that you don't, and trying
to balance your budget so you can start paying down
your debt. I reckon most Kiwis are doing the latter,
and in that score, she's on the money. But here's
(01:36):
the thing to worry about, and it's a worry every
time there's an election. The political calculation for budget twenty
twenty five will be very different to Budget twenty twenty six.
You can get away with running a tight ship in
the off season, but next year we're going to the polls.
Just look across the Tasman for a whiff of how
mad that makes us and by extension, our politicians. Elbow's
(01:58):
borrowing so much for his spandangle election promises that stand
in pause, threatening to downgrade their triple A credit rating.
Debt funded elections, spending so out the gate, it's pushing
government outlays to the highest levels since World War Two.
They're now promising to cut seven billion dollars out of
the public service. At least they pushed the boat out
too far. And this is a labor government across the testament.
(02:22):
Let's not forget the coalition's been dining out on the
credit card too. It's not just the lefties. And this
is the lesson and the warning this morning. Being frugal
and thrifty is easy when you're not trying to buy
an election. So yes, Willis is making the right noises
for now, but next year might just be a different story.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it. I said as much the
other day when we had this whole wopsie Day's family
boosters not being used by anything like as many families
as we thought it was going to be, And I said, well,
you know, if it had been an election year, that
(03:03):
kind of mistake would be potentially lethal. But nobody's going
to remember that in a year's time, are they?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
News talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
But back to this year's digit and hear that? Does
it all add up for you?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Every single year we are spending more money than we
make as a country. And this is every year. This
is even in years when the economy economy is running
red hot, we're still spending more money than we could
possibly make. If it was a household, we'd be talking
about a family spending more than they earn and then
running up that difference in credit cards every year, but
then also making the crazy decision to increase their spending
(03:43):
even though they're living off the credit card. That's what
we're doing now. I think we need to cut some
big things here. I don't want to be accused of
being a racist. So I'm reluctant to say publicly that
we should cut the Ministry for Marti Development or the
Ministry for Pacific Peoples. But I am a woman, and
I'm very happy to see us cut the Women's Ministry
because why on earth do we need that? What's it
doing to your life? Nothing? And then also why do
(04:04):
we have a ministry for the environment and also a
Department of concer I feel like we can cut a
lot of these departments and save a whole lot of money.
I could go on. But if we don't get real,
and this is the real point here, if we don't
get real, and if we don't start running smaller budgets
where we spend within our means on the regular, something
we'll have to give in this country. And the thing
that every commentator out there seems to want to cut
(04:25):
is your pension because it is the most expensive thing
in this country apparently. Now, if I had a choice personally,
I would keep the pension, and I would cut nonsense
like the Women's Ministry and every other ministry we don't need,
and I would stop spending more every year than we
did in the last year, just because that's what we
do now, Like I say, I am impressed with what
(04:46):
Nikola Willis is doing. She's going further than I thought
that she would, but not far enough. If we're actually
going to fix this country's box.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
No pocket money from here there if she is in charge. Yeah,
tough times. Indeed, us talk savy. So it might be
a bit surprising to hear that some people are going
on holidays anyway, even if they can't afford them, and
they're just buying now and paying later.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
I'd rather retire a bit earlier, maybe in my sixties
early sixties, and rather than pay off a lot of
head when I was younger, wait until I'm seventy five. Yeah,
something worth.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
But just with the idea, Craig that when you're eighty,
you've still got the ability, hopefully to maybe do a
little bit of work or still pay off off whatever
det you've got. But you're not going to be skydiving,
and you're not going to be climbing up Killiman Jarrow,
and you're not going to be doing some of those
physical things. Does that come into it all for you?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
I guess so. I mean, I'm probably lucky enough to
have done a few things when I was younger, but
so I don't have a burning desire for some of
those things. But yeah, I don't know. I just reckon. Yeah,
being forced to work to you older just because you
had a you know, especially holiday, I don't know about that.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
Is it imperative in life? I've been having this discussion
with people to holiday overseas to have a good life.
Is that really imperative or is it just as good
to get a tent and go down to the beach
in New Zealand Compared to the damage you do to
your life, Craig by spending an insane amount of money
by going to the most beautiful place I don't know,
(06:22):
let's pick grease as a place or whatever, lovely, the
damage you do to your life in terms of how
later you have to retire and how much work you
could do.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, Tyler made the point that it's not just going
on holiday, it's when you get there. You tend to
overspend as well. Just the happy hour cocktails taste so
good you keep ordering after happy hour finishes, you know
what I mean. Although I'm saying that it went to
Balley last year and we actually ended up spending less
(06:50):
than we thought we were going to spend. It was
so cheap when we got there, So it doesn't always
go that way. It's time to talk prisons or corrections,
whatever you want to call it. We're fiddling with the
rules and rigs again. They're not going to be allowed
to business. Some of them are the moment people really
(07:16):
that exercise about that one. But the parole business. That's
got to get some about them, because it seems like
we're letting people out who shouldn't really be out there
because they go out there and then they do nasty things.
Speaker 8 (07:29):
Once they're released from prison. It's you know, Jesus take
the wheel. Really, Will they get the beard at the
rehabilitation center? Who knows? Probably not, it'll be full. Will
they get the kind of monitoring, the strict monitoring that's necessary.
Chances are not really. In this particular case at the
(07:53):
Coronial Innquez, the probation officer found that the probation arrangements
hadn't been entered into the computer properly. Oops. SOZ you know,
you can have no faith in the system that when
these high risk individuals come out of prison that the
protections will be there for their man for the public.
(08:13):
I don't have any faith they'll be there at all,
and anybody who works in the system doesn't have any
faith they'll be there. And yet the public can't be
warned because they have a right to privacy. And again
I asked the question, why did their rights to privacy
trump the public's right to safety? If there are no guarantees,
(08:38):
if they are still considered high risk, then unfortunately they're
going to have to stay in prison because their rights
should not trump howers it.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
There's no perfect system, is there. I mean, obviously you
could lock people away forever or kill them. It happens
in some countries, isn't it. That's probably quite effective. Do
we really want to go down that road? Some people
(09:10):
probably do?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
News talk Ze.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Bean, right, we're going to finish up here. Looking at
the weather. I think Marcus is a bit worried about
the weather. What's he got on?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Every day?
Speaker 9 (09:21):
There's talks about the weather, but it's really hard to
work out what's actually happening to people. So we've got
fairies canceled, we've got flights canceled or flights about to
be canceled, and it appears as though it's Auckland and
(09:41):
Wellington that's the most worst hit. So if you've got
any scenarios are happening, let us know. I am curious
today what it's like, what's happening at the moment, because,
as I say, you hear the report, but what's happening
on ground, you know, at the road level is sometimes
quite different. The winds and willing to break to be
quite strong there tomorrow, I think, probably the strongest in
(10:03):
ten years. So one for our last time was twenty thirteen.
We went into an airport. That was the situation. You
might remember that one four to two kilometers per hour.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, very windy at my place overnight and there was
a banging and you're lying there in bed and there's
a banging, and you're wondering, is that something that I
can do something about? In the middle of the night.
Am I even going to be able to figure out
where the banging is?
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Like?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Do I go outside in the wind and the rain
try and locate the source of the banging? And then
if I do locate the source of the banging, am
I even going to be able to fix the banging?
And then I just went back to sleep, to be honest,
(10:59):
But I'm sure I'll hear more about the banging later on,
because there's another person in the room who doesn't sleep
as quite as soundly as I do. So that's going
to be And I'm not saying that I'm going to
get blamed for the banging, but perhaps I should have
(11:21):
taken it more seriously and done something about it. I mean,
if there's still when when I get home, I'm happy
to go out and look at the banging in the daylight.
And then if, but what if it involves going up
the ladder, I'll be told I'm not supposed to go
up leaders. What do you do? Do you got the
(11:43):
ladder fixed the banging or do you just live with
the banging or hope the wind goes away. Life's so complicated,
isn't it. I am Glen Hart. You've got that to
worry about today. I hope your day is less stressful,
and we'll see you back here again tomorrow for more
unless I fall off the ladder.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Obviously used Talking.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
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