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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean Poor Wednesday.
First of the yesterday's news. I am Gleen Hart, and
we are looking back at Tuesday. We've got real crime
stats which may or may not be stats, but anyway,
we'll talk about that. The Erica Stanford email scandal that
isn't really a scandal. So we've got stats that might
(00:43):
not be stats, and a scandal that's definitely not a scandal.
And texts if they want to stay anonymous, are they
really text us? But before any of that, the proposed
social media band for under fifteens or under sixteens or something.
Is that going to be a reality and will it
make any difference? And is it importable? A lot of
(01:04):
questions around this.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I saw that they were submitting legislation this morning. I
got really excited because I don't like the social media
and I don't like under sixteens being on it, and
I think it scrambles their brains. And I thought, finally
the National Party.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Is going to do so.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
No, they're not actually they're not doing anything at all.
What they're doing is they're submitting an apparently poorly drafted
members bill. Now, the significance of this is that a
member's bill goes into the parliamentary biscuit tin and it
sits there doing nothing until it's pulled out randomly, and
a ballot like that can take years for that to happen. Now,
it doesn't have to be like this because the National
(01:37):
Party is the lead party in government, so it can
do a government bill like it's doing right now with
a pay equity a government bill, right, you can do it.
You can get it past on the day if you
want to. The problem with that, obviously is ACT is
not going to support it. But ACT is not going
to support it because it's badly written, and possibly it's
badly written because no one's put in much of an effort,
because it's not actually supposed to become law, is it.
It's just supposed to look like they're making an effort.
(02:00):
So if you're just pretending that you don't have to
put in that much work. ACT doesn't have to be
the death of this idea, though, because if National really
wanted to do that, they could simply look for cross
party support and that's not unusual and it is not
rare in Parliament. Happens all the time. In fact, they
don't need anyone other than Labor to support this and
it would become law, and Labor is open to the idea.
(02:20):
Chris Hipkins said that today, said yeah, I'm open to
it because Labor also, like National, is wanting the votes
of parents like myself who want to see the kids
come off the social media. So good on National for
saying that they want to do something about this, But
they're going to get no credit from me on this
until they actually do something about this, and popping something
into the biscuitin to be forgotten about for years is
(02:40):
not I'm sorry, doing anything about.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
This, yeah, I'd be interested. I mean, obviously this was
a big to do in Australia when they brought it in.
I'd be interested to go back to Australia and find
out if it's worked, have they been able to enforce it,
all that sort of stuff, because I've certainly got my doubts.
News talk s it been anyway. I think Marcus thinks
(03:04):
the parents are to blame. I mean, they usually aren't they.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
If people say it well, but most people I sense
have very much in favor of it. I am ambivalent,
but I think that the criticism is that it can't.
You can't just say you can't do something because it's
not going to work. I think if you really want
(03:30):
to do something, you can make it work if there's
that will, and there seems to be that will. But yeah,
the parents are to blame because the parents enable children
because they give them phones, and they give them phones
because they want to be good parents. They want to
know where their children are and they want their children
have phones because it's easier for logistics, for pickups and
change of plans and the likes. So the parents are
(03:51):
to blame. And I'm sure the parents themselves haven't grown
up with it, so they're just giving that to them
and I think it's going to be easier thing. And
unfortunately they give their children their own their own old
phones which are smartphone enabled, and of course the kids
get given that. It's like you know, trying to get
altitude and then down to sea level, you just can't.
You just go nuts because there's so much there. So yeah,
(04:13):
it is a parental problem, but the parents have no idea.
Parents are busy. They just want to do their best,
but it seems to me they're making mistakes. So yeah,
and I guess if there is a band, they can say, hey, no,
the government has banned it. You're not allowed to cell phone.
Or if they've got a cell phone and it's got
those apps, and they can say, hey, you've got to
leave those it's illegal. Give you something to say, doesn't
(04:35):
It gives you a point of contact you say you
can't do that. It's like if you find your kid
drinking and say, hey, eighteen is it eighteen anyway? Or
doing something else whatever it is, meth or I don't
know what the analogy is, but you'll have thought of something,
or spray painting buildings.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I mean, can they not just ban social media? I
mean you can obviously definitely ban certain acts. We've seen
that happen, you know, quite recently in the US with
TikTok and then I got banned again, the banner for everyone.
Why does it do adults not get to have their
mental health protected as well? Jus talk right, So we've
(05:19):
got retail crime stats that are somehow been bundled up
with antis behavior stats. I mean, none of this is good,
but Yeah, it's hard to tell one thing from another.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Sometimes, I personally don't mind putting my receipt to a
scanner and having the gates open. If it means that
some arrogant ass is prevented from walking out with a
trolley full of groceries and sticking two fingers to us, all,
I really don't mind. It would be minimal in terms
(05:55):
of hassle in terms of hold up. The same would
be true of many retail security measures.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
It makes more sense to have security measures in shops
and supermarkets than it does at the airport. You know,
me taking my boots off does not help us find
the Malaysian Airlines plane that crashed. You know, it makes
more sense to me to be held up slightly at
(06:27):
the supermarket, ever so slightly, if it means that people
aren't getting away with it. They seem to take great
delight in it, and that's what annoys me. We've got
to have a zero tolerance policy to this sort of
retail crime, and that means you and I have to
be part of the solution. It's not just retailers, it's
(06:50):
not just police that are going to make a difference.
It's when you and I are willing to accept a
little bit of inconvenience to tell the toe rags and
the freeloaders and the criminals that up with this, we
will no longer put draw a line in the sand
and for once let good guys prevail.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
It is lowest common denominator stuff, isn't it? Once? You
sort of inconvenience everybody because there are a few drop
kicks out there.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
But.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Jodos for the up with this, we will no longer
put line lod of fantastics.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Know as that was set.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Okay, So I think we're all agreed now that we
don't care what politicians do with their emails if they're
just emailing it to themselves so they can print it off.
I think Mike Hosking has a lot of sympathy for that.
He has printed troubles both in the office and at home.
How about Ryan Bridge, it's at least on part with
the hig Seth signal chat scandal. Kitty Allen drunk driving
(07:53):
then crashing a ministerial car before resisting arrest pails into comparison.
But how much worse can this scandal get for Stanford?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
We must wait for part two. This evening of course,
the next minister in the firing line was Matt Doocey
mental health and this story is crazy. He should be
locked up like crooked Hillary. His crime worse than lying.
The news readers told us the accusation was wait for it,
massaging the message. Massaging the message. It's a new charge,
(08:25):
but thought to be very, very, very serious. Some pages
detailing a workforce shortage were removed from a glossy ministery
or booklet that went out to the public. There was
one small problem with this future pullet surprise winner. The problem,
as cameras beared down as his crimes were read aloud,
was Doocey had no idea what the reporter was talking about.
(08:48):
It was old mate Lester Levy. It was Levy's fingerprints
over this one, not Doocey's. But he's already on the
way out, so where's the fun in getting him on
camera shackling him to the pillory for a flogging. So
it was Doocey in the dock last night. The best
part about this expose it came with its very own
deep throat Yes, an insider whose secret cash of draft
(09:12):
documents blew the story wide open. That person ingrid Leary
from the Labor Party. Case closed. It's a knockout, it's
a slam dunk. Both ministers must be sacked immediately. I
welcome this kind of examination because people have got to
know whether or not they're President's a crook. Well, I'm
(09:33):
not a crook. I've earned everything I've got.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, I mean, I've seen it before. I get very
uncomfortable when other people on news dogs they'd be think
that they can be cynical and sarcastic and ironic. It's
kind of my wheelhouse. I feel like they're they're tramping
all over my home ground. There, put your head in, Ryan,
keep it, keep it sincere news talk set bean right,
(09:58):
we're gonna finish up reading a text from Oh I
actually don't say who it's from.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
Don't use my name, okay, Peter here again, don't want
to talk as my wife doesn't know about well, let's
called him something else, Simon Simon Simon here again. I
don't want to talk. Is my wife doesn't know about
my crypto as she.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Is anti it.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
I have over sixty k currently and started at five K.
Made some good calls on sologenic and scorium and x
r P. Now I'm earning weekly for stacking scorium. So
there are people out there that are that are making money.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, it's a good game from five K to sixty K.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
But but he's not. He's not in the meme coin
industry though, was he He's not? Those aren't mean coins.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I don't it didn't sound like it didn't sound like
poo cooin.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
Yeah, it's slightly different than pizza coin.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Or hamster coin, yeah, or curly snake or whatever you
want to call some of these meat coins. Yeah, that's right.
Scorium sounds much more above board, doesn't it. And legit.
See that's me doing the irony, zarcasm, cynicism. But there,
(11:05):
that's how you do it. Ryan sharpen Up Kato, I
am glean hat. No really, I'll see you back here
again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Used Talking Talking zid Bean for more from News Talk
Said B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
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You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said B
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said B Talk said.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean Poor Wednesday.
First of the yesterday's news. I am Gleen Hart, and
we are looking back at Tuesday. We've got real crime
stats which may or may not be stats, but anyway,
we'll talk about that. The Erica Stanford email scandal that
isn't really a scandal. So we've got stats that might
(00:43):
not be stats, and a scandal that's definitely not a scandal.
And texts if they want to stay anonymous, are they
really text us? But before any of that, the proposed
social media band for under fifteens or under sixteens or something.
Is that going to be a reality and will it
make any difference? And is it importable? A lot of
(01:04):
questions around this.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I saw that they were submitting legislation this morning. I
got really excited because I don't like the social media
and I don't like under sixteens being on it, and
I think it scrambles their brains. And I thought, finally
the National Party.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Is going to do so.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
No, they're not actually they're not doing anything at all.
What they're doing is they're submitting an apparently poorly drafted
members bill. Now, the significance of this is that a
member's bill goes into the parliamentary biscuit tin and it
sits there doing nothing until it's pulled out randomly, and
a ballot like that can take years for that to happen. Now,
it doesn't have to be like this because the National
(01:37):
Party is the lead party in government, so it can
do a government bill like it's doing right now with
a pay equity a government bill, right, you can do it.
You can get it past on the day if you
want to. The problem with that, obviously is ACT is
not going to support it. But ACT is not going
to support it because it's badly written, and possibly it's
badly written because no one's put in much of an effort,
because it's not actually supposed to become law, is it.
It's just supposed to look like they're making an effort.
(02:00):
So if you're just pretending that you don't have to
put in that much work. ACT doesn't have to be
the death of this idea, though, because if National really
wanted to do that, they could simply look for cross
party support and that's not unusual and it is not
rare in Parliament. Happens all the time. In fact, they
don't need anyone other than Labor to support this and
it would become law, and Labor is open to the idea.
(02:20):
Chris Hipkins said that today, said yeah, I'm open to
it because Labor also, like National, is wanting the votes
of parents like myself who want to see the kids
come off the social media. So good on National for
saying that they want to do something about this, But
they're going to get no credit from me on this
until they actually do something about this, and popping something
into the biscuitin to be forgotten about for years is
(02:40):
not I'm sorry, doing anything about.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
This, yeah, I'd be interested. I mean, obviously this was
a big to do in Australia when they brought it in.
I'd be interested to go back to Australia and find
out if it's worked, have they been able to enforce it,
all that sort of stuff, because I've certainly got my doubts.
News talk s it been anyway. I think Marcus thinks
(03:04):
the parents are to blame. I mean, they usually aren't they.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
If people say it well, but most people I sense
have very much in favor of it. I am ambivalent,
but I think that the criticism is that it can't.
You can't just say you can't do something because it's
not going to work. I think if you really want
(03:30):
to do something, you can make it work if there's
that will, and there seems to be that will. But yeah,
the parents are to blame because the parents enable children
because they give them phones, and they give them phones
because they want to be good parents. They want to
know where their children are and they want their children
have phones because it's easier for logistics, for pickups and
change of plans and the likes. So the parents are
(03:51):
to blame. And I'm sure the parents themselves haven't grown
up with it, so they're just giving that to them
and I think it's going to be easier thing. And
unfortunately they give their children their own their own old
phones which are smartphone enabled, and of course the kids
get given that. It's like you know, trying to get
altitude and then down to sea level, you just can't.
You just go nuts because there's so much there. So yeah,
(04:13):
it is a parental problem, but the parents have no idea.
Parents are busy. They just want to do their best,
but it seems to me they're making mistakes. So yeah,
and I guess if there is a band, they can say, hey, no,
the government has banned it. You're not allowed to cell phone.
Or if they've got a cell phone and it's got
those apps, and they can say, hey, you've got to
leave those it's illegal. Give you something to say, doesn't
(04:35):
It gives you a point of contact you say you
can't do that. It's like if you find your kid
drinking and say, hey, eighteen is it eighteen anyway? Or
doing something else whatever it is, meth or I don't
know what the analogy is, but you'll have thought of something,
or spray painting buildings.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I mean, can they not just ban social media? I
mean you can obviously definitely ban certain acts. We've seen
that happen, you know, quite recently in the US with
TikTok and then I got banned again, the banner for everyone.
Why does it do adults not get to have their
mental health protected as well? Jus talk right, So we've
(05:19):
got retail crime stats that are somehow been bundled up
with antis behavior stats. I mean, none of this is good,
but Yeah, it's hard to tell one thing from another.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Sometimes, I personally don't mind putting my receipt to a
scanner and having the gates open. If it means that
some arrogant ass is prevented from walking out with a
trolley full of groceries and sticking two fingers to us, all,
I really don't mind. It would be minimal in terms
(05:55):
of hassle in terms of hold up. The same would
be true of many retail security measures.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
It makes more sense to have security measures in shops
and supermarkets than it does at the airport. You know,
me taking my boots off does not help us find
the Malaysian Airlines plane that crashed. You know, it makes
more sense to me to be held up slightly at
(06:27):
the supermarket, ever so slightly, if it means that people
aren't getting away with it. They seem to take great
delight in it, and that's what annoys me. We've got
to have a zero tolerance policy to this sort of
retail crime, and that means you and I have to
be part of the solution. It's not just retailers, it's
(06:50):
not just police that are going to make a difference.
It's when you and I are willing to accept a
little bit of inconvenience to tell the toe rags and
the freeloaders and the criminals that up with this, we
will no longer put draw a line in the sand
and for once let good guys prevail.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
It is lowest common denominator stuff, isn't it? Once? You
sort of inconvenience everybody because there are a few drop
kicks out there.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
But.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Jodos for the up with this, we will no longer
put line lod of fantastics.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Know as that was set.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Okay, So I think we're all agreed now that we
don't care what politicians do with their emails if they're
just emailing it to themselves so they can print it off.
I think Mike Hosking has a lot of sympathy for that.
He has printed troubles both in the office and at home.
How about Ryan Bridge, it's at least on part with
the hig Seth signal chat scandal. Kitty Allen drunk driving
(07:53):
then crashing a ministerial car before resisting arrest pails into comparison.
But how much worse can this scandal get for Stanford?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
We must wait for part two. This evening of course,
the next minister in the firing line was Matt Doocey
mental health and this story is crazy. He should be
locked up like crooked Hillary. His crime worse than lying.
The news readers told us the accusation was wait for it,
massaging the message. Massaging the message. It's a new charge,
(08:25):
but thought to be very, very, very serious. Some pages
detailing a workforce shortage were removed from a glossy ministery
or booklet that went out to the public. There was
one small problem with this future pullet surprise winner. The problem,
as cameras beared down as his crimes were read aloud,
was Doocey had no idea what the reporter was talking about.
(08:48):
It was old mate Lester Levy. It was Levy's fingerprints
over this one, not Doocey's. But he's already on the
way out, so where's the fun in getting him on
camera shackling him to the pillory for a flogging. So
it was Doocey in the dock last night. The best
part about this expose it came with its very own
deep throat Yes, an insider whose secret cash of draft
(09:12):
documents blew the story wide open. That person ingrid Leary
from the Labor Party. Case closed. It's a knockout, it's
a slam dunk. Both ministers must be sacked immediately. I
welcome this kind of examination because people have got to
know whether or not they're President's a crook. Well, I'm
(09:33):
not a crook. I've earned everything I've got.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, I mean, I've seen it before. I get very
uncomfortable when other people on news dogs they'd be think
that they can be cynical and sarcastic and ironic. It's
kind of my wheelhouse. I feel like they're they're tramping
all over my home ground. There, put your head in, Ryan,
keep it, keep it sincere news talk set bean right,
(09:58):
we're gonna finish up reading a text from Oh I
actually don't say who it's from.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
Don't use my name, okay, Peter here again, don't want
to talk as my wife doesn't know about well, let's
called him something else, Simon Simon Simon here again. I
don't want to talk. Is my wife doesn't know about
my crypto as she.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Is anti it.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
I have over sixty k currently and started at five K.
Made some good calls on sologenic and scorium and x
r P. Now I'm earning weekly for stacking scorium. So
there are people out there that are that are making money.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, it's a good game from five K to sixty K.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
But but he's not. He's not in the meme coin
industry though, was he He's not? Those aren't mean coins.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I don't it didn't sound like it didn't sound like
poo cooin.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
Yeah, it's slightly different than pizza coin.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Or hamster coin, yeah, or curly snake or whatever you
want to call some of these meat coins. Yeah, that's right.
Scorium sounds much more above board, doesn't it. And legit.
See that's me doing the irony, zarcasm, cynicism. But there,
(11:05):
that's how you do it. Ryan sharpen Up Kato, I
am glean hat. No really, I'll see you back here
again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
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Said B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
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