May 8, 2025 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB) Don't Take the Bait/Falling Out of Love with Air New Zealand/So Over MMP/So Over Biodiversity/Bad News About New Station
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful Bean needs and welcome to the Bean
for Friday, first of years Today's News. I am Glen
harton we are looking back at Thursday in New Zealand.
How are they traveling? I mean, I know that they're
traveling in the year mostly, but well, how does Ryan
Bridge feel about them at the moment? How does carry
(00:48):
Woodham feel about.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
MMP some of the MP's that we've seen come and go.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Protecting animals at what cost?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And in Zimme, the.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Company I work for has got a new radio station.
But before any of that, yes, so out, but nobody
wants him to move in as their next door neighbor.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
They're a little bit limited in what they can show you.
But even though there's almost nothing to see in these photos,
boy are we clicking on this particular story. It was
when I last checked, the most read and most viewed
story on the Herald. So people are interested and shouldn't
the media be reporting and taking photos of things that
we're interested in? I would say yes. Now I can
understand why people are grossed out by this. I suspect
(01:36):
a lot of that comes down to the fact that
there is significant doubt amongst some people as to Lundy's gelt,
just as there was doubt with David Baine, just as
there was doubt with Scott Watson. And so the feeling
is if you think you haven't he hasn't done it,
then you feel gross about the fact that he keeps
on being harrassed after serving his time. But remember, until
he proves otherwise, he is a man who is convicted
(01:57):
of murdering his wife and daughter, and his trial and
his behavior around that grip the nation and frankly turned
him to him into one of the most famous or
infamous people in the country. So he is a legitimate
news story. And it's not really a question actually of
whether the Herald should have taken those photos. It's actually
just a question of where you were going to see
that photo first, because you were going to see it somewhere.
(02:17):
If it wasn't on the Herald, it will be on
some other news outlet, or just someone popping down to
the local coffee shop seeing Mark Lundy there, taking a
photo of him and putting it on social media. Because
we all know what he looks like, and clearly we're
all interested in him, and it was going to happen
sooner or later, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I'm not interested. I haven't clicked, couldn't.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Care less, Sorry, Herold, but it's going to take more
than that to get me to click.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
On your stories. News talk has it been all right?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
So?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
In New Zealand has been under fire with the various people.
It's too expensive, we need more competition, or we don't wait.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Where are we at with the New Zealand? I feel
like we don't love it as much as we used to.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Airport landing chart up, air traffic control up, security levees up.
And when you're in business and you own we own
this one, remember fifty one percent of it. You recoup
those costs by putting your own prices up. We don't
want them subsidizing flights and crashing our business. Right, the
business we own. We sold off the National Carrier in
(03:29):
nineteen eighty nine. We renationalized in two thousand and one
after Anset went bus that cost us close to a
billion bucks. An sets problem was high costs and regulation changes.
When airlines failure gets expensive for taxpayers. Now I don't
want to defend an airline charging me four hundred dollars
to fly for forty minutes any more than the next guy.
(03:50):
But and this is the crux of most of the
complaints we hear through the media. Short flights, regional flights
are expensive to run, and people don't use them often enough.
They use more fuel as a proportion of a total
flight because of the takeoff and the climb. Takes a
bit of gas to lift us into the sky, especially
now we're getting so fat. The cost of fuel is
(04:11):
a third of the operating cost for air New Zealands,
something foreign can't control. That's more the purview of a
Putin or a Sultan. Planes spend way too long sitting
on the ground. Your costs are high, and you've got
fewer passengers to spread those costs over on the smaller routes.
Using jets, of course, that would be more efficient, but
again we don't have the people to fill them, which
(04:31):
is why I said the other day, and it's true,
but doesn't make it palatable. We're a small country. We
pay a price for sparsely populated, beautiful, untouched landscapes. The
ComCom does say there's room for improvement. But on the
whole the real enemy here is the politician or the
talking head who tells us by simply bashing Air New
(04:55):
Zealand's head into the wall, they can make Kiwis fly
on the cheek.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I had a meeting with somebody from Australia the other
day and they were saying that they didn't realize how
many beaches there were in Auckland and they haven't really
been to them, and yeah, I was telling her about
some of the nicer ones, and then I thought, oh,
maybe I should stop telling her because you know sometimes
you go to those beaches, and also about Carimandal beaches
(05:24):
as well, and things like the able Tasman National Park.
And I was saying, you know, sometimes you go on
those beaches and you're the only one person standing.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
On the beach.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I thought, hang on, if I keep telling people this,
then I won't be the only one standing on the beach.
So maybe we'll just keep it quiet. I know that
doesn't really have anything directly to do with a New Zealand,
but if it's really hard to fly around the country
and to the country, that'll help.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It doesn't really help with the tourism it's selfish of me,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Oh, well, you talk Jarry Woodham.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
She what has watched or listened to David Parker's valedict
free speech.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I don't know that she was overly impressed with David
Parker over the years.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Well, maybe it's just the way we voted him in.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
And I think STV would be a fair, fairer, less
devisive system. First past the post was undemocratic. There were
times when New Zealand elected a government that only had
around thirty eight forty percent of the vote and one
hundred percent of the decision making, and that's not particularly fair.
(06:34):
Some form of proportional representation is more representative, it's more democratic.
If we're going to live in a democracy, we might
as well behave as though we're living in a democracy
and vote and get results as if we're living in
a democracy. So, amongst his to do list, which would
(06:57):
you like to see MPs pick up on? And specifically
when it comes to the voting system, I don't think
we've got it right yet. There will be some of
you who vote who have grown up with MMP. That's
all you have known as someone who knows First past
the post and MMP. I think MMP is better than
(07:20):
first past the post and producing a more democratic and
fairer result. Is it perfect? Nowhere near it. I think
we need to keep refining it. Just because we've voted
for it once reaffirmed it once doesn't mean we have
to be stuck with it forever.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
It sounds like Cairie's the same as me. I voted
for STV back.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
In the day. And there are a lot of people,
of course, who are of a.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Voting age now who didn't get to say about what
kind of voting system. It's a long time ago now.
I don't know that I trust my.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Kids to choose a voting system for me though.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So yeah, I don't know how relevant that is. They
were talking preserving endangered animals in the Afternoon Show, Yeah yesterday,
and somebody called in with this.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
In the UK with motorways, do you know, they build
subway tunnels under the motorway so badges and hedgehops and
things can move from field to field without risk of
being run over. So there's a thought.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
It's pretty cute. That is very cute. It's a cute.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I don't know how long it would take the code
of snail to go under a tunnel in you got.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
Sweat little windows so people can watch them just go
about their daily business.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
It's covins snail to use the tunnel and not go
on the road. It's the problem.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Maybe it's accidental year they no, but I think we
should do everything we can tow.
Speaker 9 (09:02):
I guess you gotta ask the question though, with snails,
are they just idiots? So because I came home from
in the middle of the night once and I was
walking down my driveway and the dark, trying not wait
anyone up, and it was crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, and
I was walking and I was like, what am I
standing on? So I've got my phone out and turned down.
And it's horrible, horrible when you realize that you do.
I've been crunching snails all that and I'm like, you
(09:23):
idiot snails. Why are there two hundred snails decided to
be in my driveway when I'm coming home late after
a few drinks or my mates.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
It's not like they can get out of the way fast.
You know, You've got to give them a lot of
time to try and run away.
Speaker 9 (09:33):
But my question there, if you take it to a
small economy of my family. If I decided then to
build a tunnel under that driveway and there's a result
I couldn't pay to feed my kids, then then I'm
going to choose the kids over the snails every day.
And I guess that's what I'm saying when it comes
to infrastructure in New Zealand've got to choose the humans
over the snails every time.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
It sounds like Matt doesn't really understand how biodiversity works
because by that logic, you're choosing humans over anything, aren't you.
And that's what we've been doing for quite a while
now and it's not working out there great anyway, News
(10:19):
talk z Bean exciting times. There's a new radio station
on here today. Unfortunately it's this Marcus.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
I heard that zb that country music radio is coming
back to the air waves. Please get the frequency. It
starts tomorrow. Tell me where you're living. I'll tell you
where to hear it. Have you texted them?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Where are they?
Speaker 8 (10:42):
There's a link with all the frequencies. Iheartcountry, dot co,
dot Z Spillheart. Well, there's no button that's heart. Launch
it at midnight tonight. I'll ask Jason wats the first song?
It's just that we should guess because he will respond
(11:05):
well to that.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
What do you think it would be? It'll be fast Car.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
What's the first song? What's the stupid say? What's the
great station card? What's the first song to be played?
What's the first song? My type in games is not good.
What's the first song going to be on?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
What's it called?
Speaker 8 (11:38):
iHeart country? You couldn't call it that. That's the name
of a r L. I hate country. What is the
first song going to be on? I okay, Yeah, it'll
be fast Car or I don't even know what the
playlist is like. It's probably a new country, is it?
(11:59):
It's Taylor Swift country. That's controverse?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Is it?
Speaker 8 (12:01):
You start a country? Then she bended them?
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Did she?
Speaker 8 (12:03):
And what about Beyonce? What a minefield?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You know how?
Speaker 8 (12:07):
I'd go with the guy from the guy from Hoody
doing wagon Wheel. That's what I'd to start with, the
Hoody and the Blowfish guy doing wagon Wheel. That's because
that's a bit of everything. Really, someone's texted you sound
(12:28):
like a boomer trying to text.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Yeah, well that's kind of true.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Marcus.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
Working in the government the eighties, papers based files with
a norm sometimes that God will be busy, files could
be moved on. That's someone's testing. On the podcast, someone
says the first song in country radio has to be
Willie Nelson or Kenny Rodgers. Now would be something corny
like there's a new Day. It'll be something that's that's
alluding to the fact that things are about to change,
(12:53):
like changes coming or something or don't fence me in.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, this is terrible.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I don't know why we are supporting country music. I
consider it to be a weapon of mass distraction and
it should be dismantled. But I mean, by all means
going listen to it. Yeah, Like I say, I'm torn
because it's part of part of the company I work for,
(13:23):
so you know, I want it to be.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Is there a way it can be commercially successful?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
But nobody listens to it and nobody plays any country
music on it.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Probably not. I don't know what to do ideas anyone.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I'll leave you thinking about that over the weekend, and
I see you back here again on Monday with another
News Talks head being used Talking.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful Bean needs and welcome to the Bean
for Friday, first of years Today's News. I am Glen
harton we are looking back at Thursday in New Zealand.
How are they traveling? I mean, I know that they're
traveling in the year mostly, but well, how does Ryan
Bridge feel about them at the moment? How does carry
(00:48):
Woodham feel about.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
MMP some of the MP's that we've seen come and go.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Protecting animals at what cost?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And in Zimme, the.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Company I work for has got a new radio station.
But before any of that, yes, so out, but nobody
wants him to move in as their next door neighbor.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
They're a little bit limited in what they can show you.
But even though there's almost nothing to see in these photos,
boy are we clicking on this particular story. It was
when I last checked, the most read and most viewed
story on the Herald. So people are interested and shouldn't
the media be reporting and taking photos of things that
we're interested in? I would say yes. Now I can
understand why people are grossed out by this. I suspect
(01:36):
a lot of that comes down to the fact that
there is significant doubt amongst some people as to Lundy's gelt,
just as there was doubt with David Baine, just as
there was doubt with Scott Watson. And so the feeling
is if you think you haven't he hasn't done it,
then you feel gross about the fact that he keeps
on being harrassed after serving his time. But remember, until
he proves otherwise, he is a man who is convicted
(01:57):
of murdering his wife and daughter, and his trial and
his behavior around that grip the nation and frankly turned
him to him into one of the most famous or
infamous people in the country. So he is a legitimate
news story. And it's not really a question actually of
whether the Herald should have taken those photos. It's actually
just a question of where you were going to see
that photo first, because you were going to see it somewhere.
(02:17):
If it wasn't on the Herald, it will be on
some other news outlet, or just someone popping down to
the local coffee shop seeing Mark Lundy there, taking a
photo of him and putting it on social media. Because
we all know what he looks like, and clearly we're
all interested in him, and it was going to happen
sooner or later, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I'm not interested. I haven't clicked, couldn't.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Care less, Sorry, Herold, but it's going to take more
than that to get me to click.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
On your stories. News talk has it been all right?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
So?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
In New Zealand has been under fire with the various people.
It's too expensive, we need more competition, or we don't wait.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Where are we at with the New Zealand? I feel
like we don't love it as much as we used to.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Airport landing chart up, air traffic control up, security levees up.
And when you're in business and you own we own
this one, remember fifty one percent of it. You recoup
those costs by putting your own prices up. We don't
want them subsidizing flights and crashing our business. Right, the
business we own. We sold off the National Carrier in
(03:29):
nineteen eighty nine. We renationalized in two thousand and one
after Anset went bus that cost us close to a
billion bucks. An sets problem was high costs and regulation changes.
When airlines failure gets expensive for taxpayers. Now I don't
want to defend an airline charging me four hundred dollars
to fly for forty minutes any more than the next guy.
(03:50):
But and this is the crux of most of the
complaints we hear through the media. Short flights, regional flights
are expensive to run, and people don't use them often enough.
They use more fuel as a proportion of a total
flight because of the takeoff and the climb. Takes a
bit of gas to lift us into the sky, especially
now we're getting so fat. The cost of fuel is
(04:11):
a third of the operating cost for air New Zealands,
something foreign can't control. That's more the purview of a
Putin or a Sultan. Planes spend way too long sitting
on the ground. Your costs are high, and you've got
fewer passengers to spread those costs over on the smaller routes.
Using jets, of course, that would be more efficient, but
again we don't have the people to fill them, which
(04:31):
is why I said the other day, and it's true,
but doesn't make it palatable. We're a small country. We
pay a price for sparsely populated, beautiful, untouched landscapes. The
ComCom does say there's room for improvement. But on the
whole the real enemy here is the politician or the
talking head who tells us by simply bashing Air New
(04:55):
Zealand's head into the wall, they can make Kiwis fly
on the cheek.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I had a meeting with somebody from Australia the other
day and they were saying that they didn't realize how
many beaches there were in Auckland and they haven't really
been to them, and yeah, I was telling her about
some of the nicer ones, and then I thought, oh,
maybe I should stop telling her because you know sometimes
you go to those beaches, and also about Carimandal beaches
(05:24):
as well, and things like the able Tasman National Park.
And I was saying, you know, sometimes you go on
those beaches and you're the only one person standing.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
On the beach.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I thought, hang on, if I keep telling people this,
then I won't be the only one standing on the beach.
So maybe we'll just keep it quiet. I know that
doesn't really have anything directly to do with a New Zealand,
but if it's really hard to fly around the country
and to the country, that'll help.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It doesn't really help with the tourism it's selfish of me,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Oh, well, you talk Jarry Woodham.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
She what has watched or listened to David Parker's valedict
free speech.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I don't know that she was overly impressed with David
Parker over the years.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Well, maybe it's just the way we voted him in.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
And I think STV would be a fair, fairer, less
devisive system. First past the post was undemocratic. There were
times when New Zealand elected a government that only had
around thirty eight forty percent of the vote and one
hundred percent of the decision making, and that's not particularly fair.
(06:34):
Some form of proportional representation is more representative, it's more democratic.
If we're going to live in a democracy, we might
as well behave as though we're living in a democracy
and vote and get results as if we're living in
a democracy. So, amongst his to do list, which would
(06:57):
you like to see MPs pick up on? And specifically
when it comes to the voting system, I don't think
we've got it right yet. There will be some of
you who vote who have grown up with MMP. That's
all you have known as someone who knows First past
the post and MMP. I think MMP is better than
(07:20):
first past the post and producing a more democratic and
fairer result. Is it perfect? Nowhere near it. I think
we need to keep refining it. Just because we've voted
for it once reaffirmed it once doesn't mean we have
to be stuck with it forever.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
It sounds like Cairie's the same as me. I voted
for STV back.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
In the day. And there are a lot of people,
of course, who are of a.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Voting age now who didn't get to say about what
kind of voting system. It's a long time ago now.
I don't know that I trust my.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Kids to choose a voting system for me though.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So yeah, I don't know how relevant that is. They
were talking preserving endangered animals in the Afternoon Show, Yeah yesterday,
and somebody called in with this.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
In the UK with motorways, do you know, they build
subway tunnels under the motorway so badges and hedgehops and
things can move from field to field without risk of
being run over. So there's a thought.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
It's pretty cute. That is very cute. It's a cute.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I don't know how long it would take the code
of snail to go under a tunnel in you got.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
Sweat little windows so people can watch them just go
about their daily business.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
It's covins snail to use the tunnel and not go
on the road. It's the problem.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Maybe it's accidental year they no, but I think we
should do everything we can tow.
Speaker 9 (09:02):
I guess you gotta ask the question though, with snails,
are they just idiots? So because I came home from
in the middle of the night once and I was
walking down my driveway and the dark, trying not wait
anyone up, and it was crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, and
I was walking and I was like, what am I
standing on? So I've got my phone out and turned down.
And it's horrible, horrible when you realize that you do.
I've been crunching snails all that and I'm like, you
(09:23):
idiot snails. Why are there two hundred snails decided to
be in my driveway when I'm coming home late after
a few drinks or my mates.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
It's not like they can get out of the way fast.
You know, You've got to give them a lot of
time to try and run away.
Speaker 9 (09:33):
But my question there, if you take it to a
small economy of my family. If I decided then to
build a tunnel under that driveway and there's a result
I couldn't pay to feed my kids, then then I'm
going to choose the kids over the snails every day.
And I guess that's what I'm saying when it comes
to infrastructure in New Zealand've got to choose the humans
over the snails every time.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
It sounds like Matt doesn't really understand how biodiversity works
because by that logic, you're choosing humans over anything, aren't you.
And that's what we've been doing for quite a while
now and it's not working out there great anyway, News
(10:19):
talk z Bean exciting times. There's a new radio station
on here today. Unfortunately it's this Marcus.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
I heard that zb that country music radio is coming
back to the air waves. Please get the frequency. It
starts tomorrow. Tell me where you're living. I'll tell you
where to hear it. Have you texted them?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Where are they?
Speaker 8 (10:42):
There's a link with all the frequencies. Iheartcountry, dot co,
dot Z Spillheart. Well, there's no button that's heart. Launch
it at midnight tonight. I'll ask Jason wats the first song?
It's just that we should guess because he will respond
(11:05):
well to that.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
What do you think it would be? It'll be fast Car.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
What's the first song? What's the stupid say? What's the
great station card? What's the first song to be played?
What's the first song? My type in games is not good.
What's the first song going to be on?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
What's it called?
Speaker 8 (11:38):
iHeart country? You couldn't call it that. That's the name
of a r L. I hate country. What is the
first song going to be on? I okay, Yeah, it'll
be fast Car or I don't even know what the
playlist is like. It's probably a new country, is it?
(11:59):
It's Taylor Swift country. That's controverse?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Is it?
Speaker 8 (12:01):
You start a country? Then she bended them?
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Did she?
Speaker 8 (12:03):
And what about Beyonce? What a minefield?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You know how?
Speaker 8 (12:07):
I'd go with the guy from the guy from Hoody
doing wagon Wheel. That's what I'd to start with, the
Hoody and the Blowfish guy doing wagon Wheel. That's because
that's a bit of everything. Really, someone's texted you sound
(12:28):
like a boomer trying to text.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Yeah, well that's kind of true.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Marcus.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
Working in the government the eighties, papers based files with
a norm sometimes that God will be busy, files could
be moved on. That's someone's testing. On the podcast, someone
says the first song in country radio has to be
Willie Nelson or Kenny Rodgers. Now would be something corny
like there's a new Day. It'll be something that's that's
alluding to the fact that things are about to change,
(12:53):
like changes coming or something or don't fence me in.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, this is terrible.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I don't know why we are supporting country music. I
consider it to be a weapon of mass distraction and
it should be dismantled. But I mean, by all means
going listen to it. Yeah, Like I say, I'm torn
because it's part of part of the company I work for,
(13:23):
so you know, I want it to be.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Is there a way it can be commercially successful?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
But nobody listens to it and nobody plays any country
music on it.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
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