June 11, 2025 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) Your Council Is Shafting You from Every Angle/Education the British Way/It's Not Just for Farmers/Retirement or Death?/We're Moving South
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Wednesday. They've brought in the big
gun to try and sort out our education system. Field
Days is underway, so that's excited. What is the right
(00:48):
age to retire? We're back into this and when we do,
should we just move this out? But before any of that, Yes, CBS,
how much your house is worth or how little more?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
To the point spear thought for Wellington CVS down twenty
four percent, rates up seventeen percent. No thank you. Everyone's
asking why are we paying more when our houses are worthless.
The answer is just because it's how councils collect money
and they have few options to do it any other way.
I saw a graph yesterday in defensive councils. This is
(01:28):
a tax as a percentage of GDP since for over
the last one hundred and thirty years, since the eighteen hundreds,
the blue line was central government. They tax us through income,
you know, spending by a gst whole bunch of stuff.
It was up around thirty percent, peaked at about thirty
five percent of GDP. Greedy, disgraceful, poor old in Orange.
(01:49):
Your councils basically flatlining for the last seventy years at
two percent of GDP. This is why they want more
options to make money, like charging rates on government buildings
in their districts, because yes, the government doesn't pay rates
at present, but rute, isn't it We have to. It's
why Wayne Brown wants other leave to pull like bed taxes.
(02:10):
But here's the problem. They have a good argument for
more funding streams, but they keep blowing up their sympathy
with dumb, expensive, useless stuff like cycle ways and raise
pedestrian crossings and road coming measures and food scrap bins
we have to pay for. The list goes on. The
problem councils have is that nobody wants to give more
(02:30):
money to somebody who wastes it. For as long as
that keeps happening, their sympathy tank is on empty. Is
it the raising?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
When did we start raising pedestrian crossings? So they used
to just be at the same level as the road,
but somewhere along the way, because that's got to be
more expensive, doesn't it. Can we just flatten out some
of the pedestrian crossings and then can we get some
of our AIDS money back? Just speculating out loud. No
such thing as a bad idea, right news talk ze bean.
(03:03):
So we're trying to sort out the education system because
it's really bad apparently, you know, we don't know how
to read and add up and all that stuff, because
it's something is it something to do with everybody went
home during COVID and then never came.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Back or something.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
That's usually what the problem is for most things. Anyway,
they've got some English bloke out here to have a
look at it.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Their education system was a little bit like ours is
right now. The stats had fallen, The kids were falling
behind on the Pisa tables. They were doing pretty badly
with literacy and maths, somewhere around the bottom middle of
the pack something like that. But they turned it around.
The UK is now fourth in the world for reading,
eleventh in the world for mathematics. How pretty much exactly
(03:47):
the same way that many of us learned. They just
went back to that phonics, learning the basics explicitly, the
learning being taught by the teacher rather than being student led,
expectations set for students, and this is exactly what Eric Stanford,
you'll be happy to hear, is doing right here at
the minute. We've got structured literacy, and I've got structured maths.
(04:09):
We've got an hour a day of reading, writing and maths,
all that kind of stuff, expectations around kids' phones and
so on. And we need all of this because every
single time we do a significant test in our kids,
we are shocked as a country, aren't we. Last year's
NCA tests were a shocker. Only fifty five percent of
teenagers passed numerously, only sixty six percent past writing and
(04:30):
only seventy percent past reading. Now, I asked this on
the show the other day when we were talking about
those stupid giant modern learning barn style classrooms that the
education ministry forced on schools for years. I'll ask it again.
We know what works. Why did we stop doing it?
Why did we try other stuff? It was clearly never
going to work. Thank goodness for people like Sir Nick
(04:53):
Gibb and Erica Stanford for bringing back common sense at school.
And here's hoping that she is as successful as he
was do.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
We remember things weirdly about when we were at school?
And when I say we, I mean people who aren't
at school anymore, because I remember being in Space five
at fenerld In Primary, so it wasn't a room, it
was a space.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
So I don't know how recent that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Whole open plan learning thing was. I think some schools
did it, some didn't. Often that the criticisms we hear
about schools often the exceptions rather than the rule, because
I think schools have always had a certain amount of
autonomy about how they do things. I don't actually care
(05:41):
when my kids were at school, I just wanted them
to go away from me. I've made this pretty clear
for as long as possible, and it was always Yeah,
it was always annoying when they came home again. You talk, Sippy,
it's a field days time, So.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
That's exciting.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Quite a big to do z.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Times are tough. But does investment boost give you the
confidence and the wherewithal because it is actually about money
and pockets once the tax returns are filed, does it
give you the confidence and the wherewithal to be able
to invest in new technology that you just haven't been
in a position to invest in over the last couple
(06:25):
of years. So farmers specifically when it comes to the
field Days, are you feeling as bollish as Richard Linders?
Of course he has to. I mean he's the CEO
of Field Days. You know he's always going to be positive.
But he was particularly positive this year. He said, everything's
you know, all the auspices are showing positive signs, all
(06:52):
the planets are in alignment. They believe the government's on
the right track. They're getting good export prices. They've got
initiatives like investment boosts that allow them to make a commitment.
And I'd like to ask other businesses as well. We
does investment boost now you've had time to let it settle.
(07:12):
I mean that you are going to be investing and
the kind of technology that's going to boost your productivity.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
It's quite a good question because it's not you are
allowed to go to a few days, even if you're
not rural, and there there's some cool stuff there. Do
wear your gun boots. It's always muddy and wet, often
foggy rather and with them fog But I used to
(07:39):
go and it's one of those things that you go
to and you think, oh, I wish you just I
had a bit of a spear cash, because I'd love
some of these things, the things that often you wouldn't
normally use, but you see them in action, you go, ah,
love a changer on the end of the pole, even
though I live in an apartment. Use your set retirement
(08:02):
age was back at the top of the discussion list
on the New Show yesterday. Is it going to be
sixty five for you?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I'm a builder, okay, And so so you're making enough,
Like how much do you think you need to have
in the bank or assets to retire at fifty five?
Speaker 7 (08:23):
Well, as long as you're good with your money and
you know what you're doing, you should be able to
make it work and chucking, you know, chuck your money
and different investments here and there, and just keep your
options open. You know, I've been saving away for a
while now, and there's just there's there's many opportunities out there.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Am I detecting a Southland accent there, Jacob?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Or Am I wrong?
Speaker 7 (08:42):
Yeah? Yep? Far in v Cargo. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
So do you think do you think it might be
easier to retire you plan to retire down there down the.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
South Yeah, hopefully something like that where there's cheaper.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Houses, he's going for fifty five, not sixty five.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I am.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It's a shame. I've always I've made.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
No secret in there.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
All I've ever wanted to do.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Is retire.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
But I don't think I'm going to live that long,
to be honest, I feel like I'm already on Burrow
time in many ways, so I'm going to miss out
on that. That's a shame.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
News talk z it been.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
But if I did when I moved to the South Island,
it seems like a lot of people aren't recording to Marcus.
Speaker 8 (09:29):
Pretty amazing story of this, and probably for the first
time ever, there is net migration from the North Island
to the South Island. And I think ever since the
gold Rush ended in the eighteen sixties, people have been
heading north. Of course, the South Island for a long
(09:52):
time was the most populas, but then of course the
North Island has taken over and dominated for a long
long time. But now it seems that the flow is
going the other way. And more than forty thousand people
have moved from the North Island to Canterbury Since eighteen
eighty six thousand people have moved from the North island
(10:14):
to the south in the last five years thirty thousand
more than people that went in the opposite direction. See's
Aukland always said to be full of people that have
moved up from the South Island. Now in fact, the
south Island of christ full of people have moved down
for the North Island.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Ah yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Don't think I can get that one past the domestic manager.
To be honest, she's keen on being sort of walking
distance to the beach or over view of the ocean
or something like that and we retire, And I don't
think she means a freezing cold southern ocean with great
white sharks swimming around in it. I am Glenn Hart.
(10:57):
Almost forgot there for a minute. Don't worry. I haven't
died just yet. I'll be back at getting tomorrow hopefully.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Use talks Doors it Been for more from News Talk
set B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk said B Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Wednesday. They've brought in the big
gun to try and sort out our education system. Field
Days is underway, so that's excited. What is the right
(00:48):
age to retire? We're back into this and when we do,
should we just move this out? But before any of that, Yes, CBS,
how much your house is worth or how little more?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
To the point spear thought for Wellington CVS down twenty
four percent, rates up seventeen percent. No thank you. Everyone's
asking why are we paying more when our houses are worthless.
The answer is just because it's how councils collect money
and they have few options to do it any other way.
I saw a graph yesterday in defensive councils. This is
(01:28):
a tax as a percentage of GDP since for over
the last one hundred and thirty years, since the eighteen hundreds,
the blue line was central government. They tax us through income,
you know, spending by a gst whole bunch of stuff.
It was up around thirty percent, peaked at about thirty
five percent of GDP. Greedy, disgraceful, poor old in Orange.
(01:49):
Your councils basically flatlining for the last seventy years at
two percent of GDP. This is why they want more
options to make money, like charging rates on government buildings
in their districts, because yes, the government doesn't pay rates
at present, but rute, isn't it We have to. It's
why Wayne Brown wants other leave to pull like bed taxes.
(02:10):
But here's the problem. They have a good argument for
more funding streams, but they keep blowing up their sympathy
with dumb, expensive, useless stuff like cycle ways and raise
pedestrian crossings and road coming measures and food scrap bins
we have to pay for. The list goes on. The
problem councils have is that nobody wants to give more
(02:30):
money to somebody who wastes it. For as long as
that keeps happening, their sympathy tank is on empty. Is
it the raising?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
When did we start raising pedestrian crossings? So they used
to just be at the same level as the road,
but somewhere along the way, because that's got to be
more expensive, doesn't it. Can we just flatten out some
of the pedestrian crossings and then can we get some
of our AIDS money back? Just speculating out loud. No
such thing as a bad idea, right news talk ze bean.
(03:03):
So we're trying to sort out the education system because
it's really bad apparently, you know, we don't know how
to read and add up and all that stuff, because
it's something is it something to do with everybody went
home during COVID and then never came.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Back or something.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
That's usually what the problem is for most things. Anyway,
they've got some English bloke out here to have a
look at it.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Their education system was a little bit like ours is
right now. The stats had fallen, The kids were falling
behind on the Pisa tables. They were doing pretty badly
with literacy and maths, somewhere around the bottom middle of
the pack something like that. But they turned it around.
The UK is now fourth in the world for reading,
eleventh in the world for mathematics. How pretty much exactly
(03:47):
the same way that many of us learned. They just
went back to that phonics, learning the basics explicitly, the
learning being taught by the teacher rather than being student led,
expectations set for students, and this is exactly what Eric Stanford,
you'll be happy to hear, is doing right here at
the minute. We've got structured literacy, and I've got structured maths.
(04:09):
We've got an hour a day of reading, writing and maths,
all that kind of stuff, expectations around kids' phones and
so on. And we need all of this because every
single time we do a significant test in our kids,
we are shocked as a country, aren't we. Last year's
NCA tests were a shocker. Only fifty five percent of
teenagers passed numerously, only sixty six percent past writing and
(04:30):
only seventy percent past reading. Now, I asked this on
the show the other day when we were talking about
those stupid giant modern learning barn style classrooms that the
education ministry forced on schools for years. I'll ask it again.
We know what works. Why did we stop doing it?
Why did we try other stuff? It was clearly never
going to work. Thank goodness for people like Sir Nick
(04:53):
Gibb and Erica Stanford for bringing back common sense at school.
And here's hoping that she is as successful as he
was do.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
We remember things weirdly about when we were at school?
And when I say we, I mean people who aren't
at school anymore, because I remember being in Space five
at fenerld In Primary, so it wasn't a room, it
was a space.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
So I don't know how recent that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Whole open plan learning thing was. I think some schools
did it, some didn't. Often that the criticisms we hear
about schools often the exceptions rather than the rule, because
I think schools have always had a certain amount of
autonomy about how they do things. I don't actually care
(05:41):
when my kids were at school, I just wanted them
to go away from me. I've made this pretty clear
for as long as possible, and it was always Yeah,
it was always annoying when they came home again. You talk, Sippy,
it's a field days time, So.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
That's exciting.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Quite a big to do z.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Times are tough. But does investment boost give you the
confidence and the wherewithal because it is actually about money
and pockets once the tax returns are filed, does it
give you the confidence and the wherewithal to be able
to invest in new technology that you just haven't been
in a position to invest in over the last couple
(06:25):
of years. So farmers specifically when it comes to the
field Days, are you feeling as bollish as Richard Linders?
Of course he has to. I mean he's the CEO
of Field Days. You know he's always going to be positive.
But he was particularly positive this year. He said, everything's
you know, all the auspices are showing positive signs, all
(06:52):
the planets are in alignment. They believe the government's on
the right track. They're getting good export prices. They've got
initiatives like investment boosts that allow them to make a commitment.
And I'd like to ask other businesses as well. We
does investment boost now you've had time to let it settle.
(07:12):
I mean that you are going to be investing and
the kind of technology that's going to boost your productivity.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
It's quite a good question because it's not you are
allowed to go to a few days, even if you're
not rural, and there there's some cool stuff there. Do
wear your gun boots. It's always muddy and wet, often
foggy rather and with them fog But I used to
(07:39):
go and it's one of those things that you go
to and you think, oh, I wish you just I
had a bit of a spear cash, because I'd love
some of these things, the things that often you wouldn't
normally use, but you see them in action, you go, ah,
love a changer on the end of the pole, even
though I live in an apartment. Use your set retirement
(08:02):
age was back at the top of the discussion list
on the New Show yesterday. Is it going to be
sixty five for you?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I'm a builder, okay, And so so you're making enough,
Like how much do you think you need to have
in the bank or assets to retire at fifty five?
Speaker 7 (08:23):
Well, as long as you're good with your money and
you know what you're doing, you should be able to
make it work and chucking, you know, chuck your money
and different investments here and there, and just keep your
options open. You know, I've been saving away for a
while now, and there's just there's there's many opportunities out there.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Am I detecting a Southland accent there, Jacob?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Or Am I wrong?
Speaker 7 (08:42):
Yeah? Yep? Far in v Cargo. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
So do you think do you think it might be
easier to retire you plan to retire down there down the.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
South Yeah, hopefully something like that where there's cheaper.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Houses, he's going for fifty five, not sixty five.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I am.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It's a shame. I've always I've made.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
No secret in there.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
All I've ever wanted to do.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Is retire.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
But I don't think I'm going to live that long,
to be honest, I feel like I'm already on Burrow
time in many ways, so I'm going to miss out
on that. That's a shame.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
News talk z it been.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
But if I did when I moved to the South Island,
it seems like a lot of people aren't recording to Marcus.
Speaker 8 (09:29):
Pretty amazing story of this, and probably for the first
time ever, there is net migration from the North Island
to the South Island. And I think ever since the
gold Rush ended in the eighteen sixties, people have been
heading north. Of course, the South Island for a long
(09:52):
time was the most populas, but then of course the
North Island has taken over and dominated for a long
long time. But now it seems that the flow is
going the other way. And more than forty thousand people
have moved from the North Island to Canterbury Since eighteen
eighty six thousand people have moved from the North island
(10:14):
to the south in the last five years thirty thousand
more than people that went in the opposite direction. See's
Aukland always said to be full of people that have
moved up from the South Island. Now in fact, the
south Island of christ full of people have moved down
for the North Island.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Ah yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Don't think I can get that one past the domestic manager.
To be honest, she's keen on being sort of walking
distance to the beach or over view of the ocean
or something like that and we retire, And I don't
think she means a freezing cold southern ocean with great
white sharks swimming around in it. I am Glenn Hart.
(10:57):
Almost forgot there for a minute. Don't worry. I haven't
died just yet. I'll be back at getting tomorrow hopefully.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Use talks Doors it Been for more from News Talk
set B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio.
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